Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-11-16

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Aqhna, 16 Noembrioy 2005

APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos ayrio, stis 09:30, qa exei synergasia, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs k. Anastash Papalhgoyra.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dyo mikres erwthseis. H mia afora th dhlwsh-parapono toy k. Erntogan, oti enw aytos exei episkefqei kat` epanalhch kai epishma thn Aqhna, o k. Karamanlhs, opws leei o koymparos toy, den protiqetai na episkefqei epishma thn Toyrkia. Kai to allo, qa hqela na sxoliasete ta xqesina gegonota sto ceydokratos Ntenktas, opoy stratiwtikoi kai politikoi hgetes ths Toyrkias, kraygasan gia mia akomh fora oti den prokeitai na fygoyn ta toyrkika strateymata katoxhs apo thn Kypro.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora to deytero erwthma sas: Qewroyme oti kinoyntai oloi toys se laqos kateyqynsh kai se kamia periptwsh sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, poy isxyoyn edw kai para polla xronia kai epanabebaiwnontai apo kairoy eis kairon. Se o,ti afora to prwto, gia thn episkech kai ta osa eipe o k. Erntogan, opws exw janapei, h apofash ths kybernhshs einai na pragmatopoihqei h antapodotikh ayth episkech kai anazhteitai o katallhlos xronos.

GARGALAKOS: Shmera to ``Eqnos'' anaferetai se kapoies synanthseis poy exoyn ginei anamesa ston Prwqypoyrgo, sto dieyqynth ths ``Eleyqerotypias'' kai ston ekdoth. Exoyn ginei pragmati aytes oi synanthseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos, opws kai o omilwn ws armodios epi twn qematwn Typoy, synantwntai me dhmosiografoys, ekdotes, dieyqyntes efhmeridwn, genikotera me anqrwpoys poy yphretoyn to xwro twn Meswn Enhmerwshs.

TSIODRAS: Eipate xqes se mia protash poy eixe kataqesei o k. Arhs Sphliwtopoylos oti h Ellada den exei Leyko Oiko. Shmera o boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias epanhlqe me mia kainoyria protash gia orismo syntonisth, ton opoio malista prosdiorizei sto proswpo toy k. Sioyfa. Oi synexeis protaseis kai h xqesinh kai h shmerinh, deixnoyn kati apo thn pleyra toy prwhn ekproswpoy@;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den prepei na rwtate emena gia tis protaseis poy kanoyn boyleytes kai stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias. Antilambaneste oti isxyei h xqesinh apanthsh moy. Kai h apanthsh moy -peran toy eyfyologhmatos poy symplhrwse thn erwthsh- htan oti yparxoyn syzhthseis stis opoies exw anaferqei para polles fores, yparxoyn protaseis boyleytwn. H kaqe protash einai sebasth. Ekeinos poy krinei einai o Prwqypoyrgos.

XIWTHS: Epishs eiste armodioteros gia mia allh erwthsh poy exw synafh. O k. Panos Kamenos dhlwse xqes oti einai etoimos na mpei sthn kybernhsh@

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos apofasizei gia to kybernhtiko sxhma. Ola ayta ta zhthmata ta exoyme syzhthsei para polles fores.

KORAH: O Prwqypoyrgos pws aisqanetai otan akoyei, as poyme, ton k. Sphliwtopoylo na zhtaei mia qesh proswparxh, ta alla stelexh, thn k. Ntora Mpakogiannh, ena mikro kai eyelikto sxhma kai mia kybernhtikh epitroph h opoia kata kapoio tropo qa synedriazei kaqe mera en eidei prwinoy kafe h en pash periptwsei qa exei poly amesa antanaklastika, qa xarassei ap` o,ti katalabame h kybernhtikh epitroph thn politikh; O k. Kamenos toy leei, egw eimai etoimos na ginw Ypoyrgos. Pws antidra o Prwqypoyrgos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos akoyei tis protaseis olwn twn stelexwn kai synektima.

BLAXOS: Akoysate ton Giwrgo Papandreoy, eseis kai o Prwqypoyrgos, na leei oti egw qa ananewsw to komma moy. Ayto sas problhmatizei, sas fobizei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H ananewsh qewreitai qetiko stoixeio eite prokeitai gia kommata eite prokeitai gia opoiondhpote allo tomea ths koinwnikhs kai ths politikhs zwhs.

BLAXOS: Ayto dhmioyrgei nea dedomena sto politiko paixnidi; Dhladh, mexri twra, o Giwrgos Papandreoy, gia polloys apo esas qewreitai akindynos. Shmera arxizei na ginetai epikindynos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Katarxas, den qa xrhsimopoioysa ekfraseis peri kindynoy, otan milame gia politikh antiparaqesh. Sthn politikh antiparaqesh, antiparatiqentai idees, protaseis, apoceis kai ergo. Eidika se o,ti afora to ergo einai poly prosfato to parelqon kai oi polites qymoyntai poly kala to ergo poy afhse pisw toy to PASOK.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate prohgoymenws oti o Prwqypoyrgos kai eseis exete synanthqei me ekdotes, kanalarxes, dhmosiografoys kai dieyqyntes. Aytes oi synanthseis eginan me thn hgesia ths ``Eleyqerotypias'' meta apo ayth th diamaxh poy jespase me ton ``ALPHA'';

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa moy epitrecete na mhn anaferqw se sygkekrimena ranteboy toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ta opoia den anakoinwnw pote kai den anakoinwnontai pote.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti einai; Mystika einai dhladh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den anakoinwnontai pote ta ranteboy toy Prwqypoyrgoy me dhmosiografoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw rwthsa gia xronikh periodo. Den rwthsa gia@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Antilambanomai oti prospaqeite na syndyasete mia ypoqesh. Se kamia periptwsh den syndyazetai.

POYLIDOY: Sygnwmh, me ton k. Felekh toy ``Ependyth'' anakoinwqhke epishmws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epishmws; Nomizw oti kanete laqos. Den anakoinwsa pote synanthsh dieyqynth efhmeridas h dhmosiografoy me ton Prwqypoyrgo.

IWANNOY: Qa hqela na kanw dyo erwthseis sxetika me ayta poy eipe xqes o k. Papandreoy sto geyma poy eixe me toys koinoboyleytikoys. To prwto, ti apantate sto xarakthrismo ``kamposos'' gia ton Prwqypoyrgo, oti kanei ton kamposo kai otan erxontai ta dyskola krybetai. Kai to deytero, ean apodexeste thn protash toy k. Papandreoy. Eipe xarakthristika gia qemata diafaneias, an qelei as me kalesei o Prwqypoyrgos na syzhthsoyme, afhnontas anoikto to endexomeno kai entos kai ektos Boylhs na broyn ta dyo megala kommata mia lysh se ayta ta qemata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, qa pw oti dystyxws o k. Papandreoy symplhrwnei th xoreia twn anakoloyqiwn stis opoies brisketai. Gia paradeigma, pro oligwn hmerwn, dhlwse oti koita mprosta kai asxoleitai mono me to mellon, enw otan anaferetai sth Nea Dhmokratia asxoleitai me to apwtero parelqon. Kai malista me parelqon poy den exei sxesh, polles fores, me to komma ths Neas Dhmokratias. Ara, loipon, o k. Papandreoy blepei ta pragmata me dyo metra kai dyo staqma. Se o,ti afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas gia qemata diafaneias: Exei ginei polles fores syzhthsh sth Boylh gia ta qemata ayta. Exoyme zhthsei apo to PASOK na kanei pio sygkekrimenes tis protaseis toy, alla dystyxws oi protaseis htan pantote genikes kai aoristes. Exw epanalabei oti xairomaste idiaiterws poy akoysame ton k. Papandreoy na leei oti epejergazetai epiteloys ekeines tis oktw protaseis gia th diafaneia. Elpizoyme, otan teleiwsei thn epejergasia, na tis dhmosiopoihsei. Emeis, se kaqe periptwsh, to exw epanalabei se ayth thn aiqoysa, eimaste diateqeimenoi na akoysoyme kaqe protash poy qa bohqhsei sthn kateyqynsh ths diafaneias sto dhmosio bio.

IWANNOY: Einai mpros gkremos kai pisw rema gia th Nea Dhmokratia oi prowres ekloges, opws eipe o k. Papandreoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Koitaze kapoio kaqrefth thn wra poy to elege;

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe sas problhmatizei oti h k. Mpakogiannh, ena apo ta pleon epifanh stelexh toy kommatos sas, exei diapistwsei pws yparxei problhma proswpwn sthn kybernhsh kai se orismenes periptwseis yparxei kai problhma politikhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ekana anafora sto qema prohgoymenws. Qa moy epitrecete na mh symplhrwsw tipota perissotero.

XIWTHS: Plhroforoymaste oti o OTE exei proteinei sthn Epitroph Thlepikoinwniwn ayjhsh toy kostoys prosbashs sto Internet mexri 240%. Qelw na rwthsw, ean ayto synadei me thn kybernhtikh desmeysh poy exei analabei o idios o Prwqypoyrgos gia ependysh stis nees texnologies.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete apolyto dikio. O Prwqypoyrgos exei analabei desmeysh gia ependysh stis nees texnologies. Exei milhsei gia paroxh fthnhs syndeshs Internet stoys foithtes, kati to opoio proxwra hdh kai qa ginei poly syntoma pragmatikothta. Se o,ti afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, h anejarthth Arxh Thlepikoinwniwn kai Taxydromeiwn exei zhthsei edw kai ena kai pleon xrono na enarmonistoyn oi times me times eyrwpaikwn xwrwn kai me tis times ths agoras. Den gnwrizw se poio pososto einai h ayjhsh, giati akoysa kai diabasa diaforetika pososta. Qelw na enhmerwqw apo to armodio ypoyrgeio kai fysika apo thn anakoinwsh toy OTE. Den isxyoyn ta pososta poy diabasa se diaforetika dhmosieymata.

XIWTHS: Hqela na rwthsw, me dedomeno oti o OTE elegxetai akomh apo to Dhmosio, h kybernhsh symfwnei me thn protash toy OTE h endexomenws na parembei estw diakritika, estw ki an h Epitroph Thlepikoinwniwn einai mia anejarthth Arxh, etsi wste na mhn einai toso shmantikh h ayjhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Xwris na apotelei parembash ston OTE ayto poy qa pw, eimai bebaios oti o OTE qa prospaqhsei, sto plaisio ths anaptyjhs twn diktywn ths eyryzwnikothtas, poy einai poly pio monterna apo ayta poy isxyoyn shmera, na bohqhsei oso to dynaton perissoteroys polites anaptyssontas to diktyo toy se perissotera merh ths Elladas. Bebaiws, dinontas times tetoies poy qa tis antexei to balantio toy Ellhna polith, wste na bohqhqei kai h Politeia na proxwrhsei mprosta sta bhmata ths hlektronikhs epoxhs.

SIDERHS: H anejarthth Arxh einai anejarthth Arxh, alla h politikh eyqynh einai ths kybernhshs. O enarmonismos sta telh syndeshs me thn E.E. mporei na ginei kai qa to epitrecei h kybernhsh, otan den einai enarmonismenoi oi misqoi me toys isxyontes sthn E.E.; Einai dikh sas politikh eyqynh kai den mporei h kybernhsh na krybetai pisw apo anejarthtes Arxes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat` arxas qa hqela na parakalesw, epeidh polles fores akoygontai sxolia, ta opoia sxolia mporeite na ta apeyqynete -an qelete- stoys akroates, toys thleqeates kai toys anagnwstes sas.

SIDERHS: Synhqws kanw sxolia, alla ayth thn fora den ekana.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kanate mia seira sxoliwn. En pash periptwsei einai dikaiwma sas.

SIDERHS: Diapistwseis ekana. Otan mas lete gia anejarthth Arxh@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas parakalesw na akoysete thn apanthsh kai na synexisete me thn epomenh erwthsh sas. Erwthsh h sxolio an qelete, par@ oti ta sxolia o kaqenas exei thn eleyqeria na ta kanei sto Meso poy ergazetai. H anejarthth Arxh eixe zhthsei pleon toy enos etoys poly megalyteres ayjhseis apo aytes poy anakoinwse o OTE. O enarmonismos -opws orqws anaferqhkate- twn misqwn einai diarkhs prospaqeia. Eimaste hdh se ena para poly kalo epipedo. Synexizoyme se ayto kai se anwtera epipeda, wste na enarmonistoyn oi misqoi kai oi syntajeis twn Ellhnwn ergazomenwn me toys misqoys kai tis syntajeis twn ergazomenwn kai twn syntajioyxwn se alles xwres ths E.E.

SIDERHS: Kanate 30% ayjhsh sthn ERT. Den qa eprepe mia kybernhsh poy endiaferetai gia thn eytajia kai to epipedo zwhs twn politwn na dwsei proteraiothta stoys misqoys kai meta sta kratika monopwlia na kanei ayjhseis; Giati ejakoloyqei o OTE na einai kratiko monopwlio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O OTE den einai monopwlio. Opws gnwrizete o OTE antimetwpizei ton antagwnismo, opws epishs kai h ERT sthn opoia anaferqhkate. Qewrw oti exoyme syzhthsei poly gi ayta ta qemata. Den exw na prosqesw tipote perissotero.

KAKALHS: Se o,ti afora thn kontra Fyntanidh-Triantafyllopoyloy h ``Eleyqerotypias-ALPHA'', shmera to ``Eqnos'' topoqeteitai, emplekei thn kybernhsh kai milaei gia paraskhniakh sthrijh sthn ELEYQEROTYPIA ek meroys ths kybernhshs, malista me esas mesazonta. Exete kapoio sxolio gi ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa sxoliasw sxolio kamias efhmeridas.

BLAXOS: H erwthsh htan an einai mpros gkremos kai pisw rema to endexomeno prowrwn eklogwn gia thn kybernhsh kai apanthsate, koitaze se kapoio kaqrepth otan to elege; An katalaba kala, anoigete qema diadoxhs toy G. Papandreoy, sthn periptwsh poy xasei tis ekloges;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto den einai pia sxolio. An eipa ston k. Siderh oti kanei sxolio, eseis kanate mia yperbash arketa megalyterh. Bebaiws den einai qema diko moy na anoijw tetoio zhthma opws ayto poy anaferate. Den afora thn kybernhsh, oyte ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo na anoijei tetoio zhthma.

BLAXOS: To kanete omws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas parakalesw na deite kai pali thn erwthsh poy moy qesate kai ti apanthsa.

BLAXOS: Eipate, koitaze se kapoio kaqrefth otan to elege;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Na to pw loipon jekaqara. Mpros gkremos kai pisw rema, mporei na einai h ypoqesh twn eklogwn gia to PASOK kai oxi gia th N.D.

BLAXOS: Giati den qelete na sxoliasete sxolia efhmeridwn gia to qema Fyntanidh - Triantafyllopoyloy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to exw kanei pote kai gia kamia periptwsh. Den to exw kanei gia periptwseis poy me aforoysan proswpika. Kata synepeia den qa to kanw gia kanenan.

BLAXOS: Nai, alla di aytoy toy tropoy den afhnete th dynatothta se kapoion na pei oti mporei na einai kai etsi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Afhnw kai thn allh dynatothta se kapoion ap` oloys ej ymwn, na poyn en synexeia oti o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos ws mh edei sxoliazei th doyleia twn dhmosiografwn.

BLAXOS: Ara 50-50.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ta symperasmata dika sas.

BLAXOS: Sas endiaferei enas Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos na afhnei 50-50 tis piqanothtes na metexei h na mh metexei se mia tetoia ejelijh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ta symperasmata dika sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, einai sta sxedia ths kybernhshs akomh kai to endexomeno prowrwn eklogwn; To lew giati plhroforoymai oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa periodeysei to Sabbatokyriako se nomoys ths eparxias sth B. Ellada.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den syndeetai se kamia periptwsh me prowres ekloges. Exoyme pei oti oi ekloges einai sto telos ths tetraetias.

XIWTHS: Xqes, sthn enhmerwsh mas, epanalabate th desmeysh toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti kanenas ergazomenos apo thn O.A den qa meinei sto dromo. Shmera to prwi akoyga ton yfypoyrgo Metaforwn k. Neratzh, na leei kati diaforetiko. Na leei, dhladh, oti ston neo forea asfalws den xwroyn oloi oi ergazomenoi. Kapoioi apo aytoys asfalws qa metataxqoyn, kapoioi qa parameinoyn, kapoioi qa syntajiodothqoyn me ena programma eqeloysias ejodoy, alla den mporoyse na eggyhqei oti oloi oi symbasioyxoi poy ergazontai sthn O.A. qa parameinoyn sth doyleia. Sthn kalyterh periptwsh, eipe oti kapoioi apo aytoys qa pane ston OAED. To diko moy sxolio einai oti qa pane na caxnoyn gia doyleia me toys ypoloipoys anergoys toy OAED. Ayto den einai, ayto poy exei desmeyqei o Prwqypoyrgos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exete dikio. O Prwqypoyrgos exei milhsei me safhneia kai anatrejte parakalw se ayta poy exei pei. Exw erwthqei polles fores sto press room gia to qema twn symbasioyxwn. To zhthma ths O.A. einai poly lepto, oxi mono gia thn kybernhsh, einai genika lepto zhthma. Oi nomikoi, oi oikonomikoi kai oi politikoi xeirismoi poy apaitoyntai einai polyplokoi. Se o,ti afora to qema twn ergazomenwn: Arxizei syntoma dialogos ths kybernhshs me toys ergazomenoys gia th lysh twn opoiwn problhmatwn dhmioyrgoyntai apo tis apofaseis aytes kai gia to ti mellei genesqai sthn ypoqesh ths O.A.

KAKALHS: Dhladh, dialogos apo mhdenikh bash; Den yparxei kamia eggyhsh gia thn tyxh twn ergazomenwn;

XIWTHS: Ara, h desmeysh toy Prwqypoyrgoy isxyei akoma kai gia toys symbasioyxoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H desmeysh toy Prwqypoyrgoy isxyei gia toys ergazomenoys sthn O.A. Oson afora to qema twn symbasioyxwn, to exw pei kai allh fora kai to epanalambanw kai shmera: Ean yparxoyn symbasioyxoi poy ergasthkan fetos to kalokairi gia treis-tesseris mhnes, den nomizw na yparxei Ellhnas poliths poy qa dexqei oti enan anqrwpo poy ergasthke gia treis-tesseris mhnes ofeilei h politeia na ton kanei monimo ypallhlo toy dhmosioy. Pisteyw oti yparxei h logikh me thn opoia qa proseggistoyn ta qemata, logikh poy pisteyw kai elpizw oti qa akoloyqhsoyn kai oi ergazomenoi, prokeimenoy na breqoyn oi kalyteres dynates lyseis.

KAKALHS: Ara, afhnete anoikto to endexomeno gia toys ergazomenoys.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi ergazomenoi, kata pleiochfia, einai sto misqologio ths O.A. Epanalambanw oti arxizei o dialogos me toys ergazomenoys. Parakalw na perimenoyme ta apotelesmata aytoy toy dialogoy.

SIDERHS: Etsi den exoyme ergazomenoys dyo taxythtwn, ths O.A. kai toy Lanara, poy briskontai sto eleos toy Qeoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyme ergazomenoys dyo taxythtwn apo tote poy to PASOK apofasise na parabiasei mia seira apo diatajeis, poy to idio eixe qesei, opws gia paradeigma, diatajeis toy ASEP. Exoyme anaferqei polles fores se ayto. Exoyme ergazomenoys dyo taxythtwn apo tote poy to PASOK apofasise na ftiajei th ``famprika'' twn symbasioyxwn, oi opoioi htan desmioi kai omhroi, oi idioi kai oi oikogeneies toys. Mia omhria poy elabe telos me tis apofaseis ths kybernhshs ths N.D. kai th symfwnh gnwmh ths E.E. h opoia enw pieze to PASOK na lysei to problhma apo to 1999, ayto den eixe kanei tipota.

Sas eyxaristw.

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