Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-09-21

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 21 Septembrioy 2005

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa synanthqei, ayrio stis 10.30, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton Proedro ths Serbias-Mayroboynioy.

Stis 16.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa anaxwrhsei gia to Parisi. To programma ths episkechs qa sas dianemhqei argotera.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Exw dyo erwthseis se diaforetika qemata: H prwth erwthsh afora se kapoies plhrofories poy dioxeteyontai oti xqes o k. Palaiokrassas proshlqe sto Megaro Majimoy, me fakelo, me stoixeia, gia ta erga kai tis hmeres melwn toy Dioikhtikoy Symboylioy, poy rixnoyn mia skia -an moy epitrepete- diaplokhs proswpwn me epixeirhmatika symferonta. Qelw na jerw epishmws, ean synebh ayto kai an yparxei tetoio qema apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxei kanenas tetoios fakelos poy na proskomisthke apo ton k. Palaiokrassa ston opoiondhpote kai poly perissotero ston Prwqypoyrgo. Opws gnwrizete, o k. Palaiokrassas exei steilei ston eisaggelea kapoies ypoqeseis. Me thn erwthsh sas, moy dinete thn eykairia na pw gia mia akomh fora, me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo pws den einai oyte prosklhsh, oyte paraklhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti opoios exei stoixeia ofeilei na ta paei sth Dikaiosynh. Apotelei pagia entolh gia opoiodhpote stelexos toy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos h toy eyryteroy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos.

SPYRAKH: H deyterh erwthsh afora ayto poy eipe xqes h k. Kanellh, sxetika me thn apofash ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, thn apoch ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, h opoia katagrafetai sthn apofash. Symfwna me ayto poy eipe h k. Kanellh se thleoptikh ekpomph, sthn paragrafo 181 ths apofashs toy Kolegioy twn Epitropwn, emfanizetai h ellhnikh kybernhsh na diabebaiwnei thn Komision, oti qa proxwrhsei sthn ekkaqarish twn Olympiakwn Aerogrammwn, poy einai h diadoxos etaireia ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias kai sto kleisimo profanws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean den me apata h mnhmh moy, h paragrafos 181 anaferetai sto oti oi Olympiakes Aerogrammes einai diadoxos ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias. Den gnwrizw na yparxei kati perissotero ep` aytoy poy lete. Qewrw dyskolo na yparxei kati tetoio, apo th stigmh poy h ellhnikh kybernhsh prospaqei -kai gnwrizete oti exei prospaqhsei para poly me ena diagwnismo poy prokhryxqhke perysi ton Oktwbrio- na idiwtikopoihqei, na poylhqei h etaireia. Ayrio, o armodios ypoyrgos k. Liaphs qa einai sthn Epitroph ths Boylhs kai qa apanthsei se para polles erwthseis gia to qema. Eimai bebaios oti qa apanthsei kai sthn erwthsh poy moy qesate, alla kai se polles alles poy mporei na teqoyn.

SIDERHS: Exw mprosta moy mia anakoinwsh toy Synaspismoy, 1/7/2005, o k. Boylgarakhs gia to qema twn agrofylakwn, leei: To pio shmantiko sthn ypoqesh ayth einai oti aytes oi yphresies oles ginontai sxedon tzampa. Me thn ennoia, dhladh, oti xrhmatodotoyntai san periballontikes draseis kai prostasia toy periballontos se ena para poly megalo pososto apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Apanthsh Xoympner: ``H Epitroph agnoei to periexomeno toy en logw nomosxedioy. Oi misqoi, ta epidomata kai oi synafeis dapanes sxetika me to proswpiko enos tetoioy swmatos prostasias toy periballontos den qa mporoysan na einai epilejimes gia koinotikh xrhmatodothsh''. Htan agnoia h prospaqeia na paraplanhsei o k. Boylgarakhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa parakaloysa na janadiabasete th dhlwsh toy k. Boylgarakh gia na dieykolynqei h syzhthsh mas. Na thn akoysoyme oloi gia mia deyterh fora.

SIDERHS: ``To pio shmantiko sthn ypoqesh ayth einai oti aytes oi yphresies oles ginontai sxedon tzampa. Me thn ennoia, dhladh, oti xrhmatodotoyntai san periballontikes draseis kai prostasia toy periballontos se ena para poly megalo pososto apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh''. To megalo pososto den yparxei sthn apanthsh ths k. Xoympner.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Boylgarakhs, loipon, omilei gia yphresies, opws poly kala kanate kai diabasate gia deyterh fora. Omilei gia periballontikes draseis poy ontws xrhmatodotoyntai apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Oydepote -opws parelkystika eida se xqesinh dhlwsh toy PASOK poy espeyse, xwris na exei diabasei th dhlwsh toy k. Boylgarakh- eipwqhke oti h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh xrhmatodotei proslhceis ypallhlwn. Kati to opoio o k. Boylgarakhs eixe thn eykairia na pei kai pali safws -ektos apo th dhlwsh poy diabasate- meta tis xqesines kataggelies toy PASOK. Ayto poy exei eipwqei gia yphresies, opws orqws anaferetai o k. Boylgarakhs, einai oti problepontai epidothseis apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Gnwrizete, gia paradeigma, oti gia yphresies epidoteitai shmera to Pyrosbestiko Swma; Kai den anaferomai se esas proswpika, ean to gnwrizete. Yparxoyn, loipon, yphresies kai mesa se aytes kai h Agrofylakh entassei zhthmata periballontos, ta opoia, opws gnwrizete, apoteloyn kentrikh politikh stoxeysh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai epidotoyntai ws tetoies. Ara, loipon, gia mia akomh fora syllambanetai to PASOK na leei cemata, meta ta cemata poy akoysthkan thn Kyriakh. Gia mia akomh fora syllambanetai na exei agnoia basikwn kanonwn leitoyrgias ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

SIDERHS: Pantws, o k. Boylgarakhs to eixe pei ayto otan egkalesthke oti proslambanei agrofylakes, th stigmh poy qa mporoysan na proslhfqoyn alles eidikothtes ypallhlwn, opws sta nosokomeia ypallhloi. Xalame lefta gia aytoys toys ypallhloys. Ekei eixe apanthsei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei pantote ajia to erwthma. Exei megalyterh ajia h apanthsh. Otan sthn apanthsh, h anafora ginetai se yphresies kai oxi se proslhceis, opws kapoioi prospaqoyn na perasoyn twra, antilambaneste oti kai h prwth dhlwsh toy k. Boylgarakh, alla kai oi shmerines dhlwseis toy apotypwnoyn thn pragmatikothta.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas ejhghsete to gegonos pws h kybernhsh ypegrace prosymfwno gia thn pwlhsh ths O.A. me thn etaireia Olympic Investors kai twra fainetai na thn qewrei afereggya ean krinoyme apo ta dhmosieymata toy filokybernhtikoy Typoy kai na mhn th qewrei ajiopisth gia na poylhsei thn O.A. To erwthma einai pws ginetai na ypografei mazi ths prosymfwno kai twra na qewreitai sxedon afereggya.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw apo poy prokyptei ayto poy lete. Ean anafereste se dhmosieymata, gnwrizete oti den sxoliazw dhmosieymata. H kybernhsh, persi, ekane enan diagwnismo. Ofeilei na proxwrhsei se ayto ton diagwnismo ews teloys, elegxontas ton h elegxontas toys endiaferomenoys kai ean dei oti den yparxei bash, tote ton khryttei agono.

KYRITSHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxoyn perissoteroi toy enos endiaferomenoi gia thn O.A.; Me posoys syzhtate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas exw pei oti syzhta h etaireia LAZAR, poy einai o symboylos ths kybernhshs se ayto to qema. Yparxoyn perissoteroi toy enos pronomiakoi synomilhtes kai epeidh akribws exei ypografei ayto to mnhmonio, h prwth etaireia einai h Olympic Investors poy ekproswpeitai apo thn York Capital kai ton epixeirhmatia k. Alejakh. To jekaqarizw gia na katastei safes. Ginetai prwta syzhthsh me aytoys, efoson yparxei mnhmonio kai en synexeia, ean den eyodwqei ayth h syzhthsh, proxwra kai stis ypoloipes protaseis.

SPYRAKH: Xqes, proekycan dyo zhthmata. To prwto einai: Yparxei qema efarmoghs toy monteloy toy OTE me thn eqeloysia ejodo kai thn allagh twn ergasiakwn sxesewn stoys neoproslambanomenoys kai sthn EYDAP;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Xqes, apantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh eipa: Oti den gnwrizw gia to qema ths EYDAP. Akoloyqhse h dhlwsh toy armodioy ypoyrgoy k. Soyflia, o opoios jekaqarise apolytws to topio. Paroysiase, dhladh, thn kybernhtikh politikh sto zhthma EYDAP. To qema ths EYDAP, loipon, opws anagrafetai kai sto programma mas, exei ws ejhs: Prwton, den allazei o dhmosios xarakthras ths kai deyteron -opws anaferei kai h anakoinwsh toy YPEXWDE- den meletatai to zhthma ths eqeloysias ejodoy, oyte apo to YPEXWDE, oyte apo thn EYDAP.

SPYRAKH: Epeidh den allazei o dhmosios xarakthras, den shmainei oti den yparxei piqanothta na pwlhqei ena epipleon paketo metoxwn, poy wstoso qa epitrecei sto dhmosio na diathrei to management. Einai etsi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H dhlwsh toy ypoyrgoy PEXWDE apanta me akribeia sto qema.

SPYRAKH: To allo erwthma afora stis aixmes poy afhse o k. Liaphs me dhlwsh toy to prwi se sxesh me ton tropo me ton opoio o k. Alogoskoyfhs apokalyce dhmosiws to endexomeno to ellhniko dhmosio na einai symmetoxos se mia etaireia poy qa prokycei ws diadoxo sxhma apo thn Olympiakh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw thn dhlwsh sthn opoia anafereste. Ws ek toytoy den qa pw tipota.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dhlwsate xqes oti programmata eqeloysias ejodoy programmatizontai kai se alles DEKO. Xwris wstoso h kybernhsh na mas exei aposafhnisei prwton se poioys Organismoys programmatizei programmata eqeloysias ejodoy; Kai deyteron, ti eidoys programmata qa einai ayta; Qa einai panakriba programmata opws htan ayto toy OTE , poy prokalese toses antidraseis kai dhmioyrghse mia nea genia pronomioyxwn syntajioyxwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas parakaloysa poly na diabazete akribws ti exw dhlwsei. Den dhlwsa ayto poy eipate. Se erwthsh toy k. Tsiodra kai sas thn diabazw opws htan ``ap` oti katalaba to montelo toy OTE den afora mono gia tis ypoloipes DEKO toys neoproslambanomenoys, alla milame kai gia programmata eqeloysias ejodoy, ta opoia qa isxysoyn kai stis ypoloipes DEKO, katalaba swsta'', erwta o synadelfos sas; Kai h apanthsh moy: ``Ean xreiastei, nai, qa ginei''. Ara, loipon, den exei kamia sxesh ayto poy eipate me ayto poy dhlwsa. Exei poly megalh diafora to ``ean xreiastei''. Kaqe DEKO, efoson akoloyqeitai pia mia kainoyrgia diadikasia, apotelei mia jexwristei periptwsh.

XIWTHS: Wraia. Synexizw, loipon, to erwthma, ean kai ayto htan to ena apo ta dyo erwthmata poy apanthsate xqes, htan kai ena allo toy synadelfoy k. Siderh -an qymamai kala- kai deyteron, to erwthma moy paramenei: Se poioys Organismoys h kybernhsh syzhta programmata eqeloysias ejodoy; Giati molis mas eipate oti sthn EYDAP den syzhta kai ti programmata qa einai ayta; Qa einai programmata xrhmatodotoymena apo to kratos, poy qa dhmioyrghsoyn mia nea genia pronomioyxwn syntajioyxwn ;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti to YPEXWDE kai h EYDAP den meletoyn tetoio endexomeno. Eipa, epishs, oti o Prwqypoyrgos paroysiase sth Qessalonikh th nea politikh poy kaqorizetai pleon stis DEKO. Se o,ti afora toys neoproslambanomenoys isxyei ayto poy egine kai ston OTE. Kata ta loipa, isxyei h xqesinh apanthsh moy arkei na th diabasei kapoios prosektika. Sto ``ean xreiastei, opoy xreiastei'' kaqeti krinetai kata periptwsh.

XIWTHS: Na epanaferw to erwthma gia trith fora mhpws parw kapoia apanthsh, sygnwmh gia thn epimonh. Ean xreiastei, loipon, ta programmata eqeloysias ejodoy qa xrhmatodothqoyn apo to kratos h oxi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas epanalambanw, kaqe periptwsh krinetai xwrista. Kaqe DEKO qa kriqei xwrista. Se o,ti afora toys neoproslambanomenoys, epanalambanw, einai bebaion oti qa isxysei to kaqestws poy isxyei ston OTE apo edw kai pera.

KAKALHS: To programma ejygianshs poy efarmozetai stis DEKO exei apwtero stoxo thn plhrh idiwtikopoihsh twn DEKO, opws ypedeije xqes to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio. Giati, opws eipe kai o k. Alogoskoyfhs me tis kateyqynseis toy DNT diafwneite mono oson afora toys ryqmoys, oxi oson afora toys telikoys stoxoys.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei ws apwtero stoxo thn kalyterh leitoyrgia twn DEKO, twn epixeirhsewn toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea, se ena poly sklhra antagwnistiko periballon.

TSIODRAS: Se sxesh me thn Olympiakh, o Prwqypoyrgos milhse gia diasfalish twn dikaiwmatwn twn ergazomenwn. Ayto shmainei oti oi ergazomenoi stis Olympiakes Aerogrammes qa synexisoyn me to kainoyrio sxhma an idiwtikopoihqei h qa yparjei eqeloysia ejodos, metatajeis klp; Ayto poy rwtw einai an mesa sth symfwnia yparxei kai to endexomeno meiwshs toy proswpikoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw hdh apanthsei se ayto to erwthma.

TSIODRAS: Den exw antilhfqei thn apanthsh, syggnwmh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Diabaste pali tis politikes enhmerwseis apo thn prohgoymenh Deytera kai qa thn antilhfqeite.

LEONTITSH: H Panellhnia Omospondia Atomwn me Eidikes Anagkes kathggeile sto radiofwno toy ALPHA shmera oti se 13 Nomarxies den exoyn katablhqei ta epidomata 150.000 atomwn gia 3 mhnes. Symbainei kati; Skeftetai h kybernhsh perikopes sto epidoma aytwn twn atomwn; Den yparxoyn xrhmata; Yparxoyn grafeiokratikes dyskolies;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthsate sto armodio Ypoyrgeio;

LEONTITSH: Epeidh prokeitai gia ena qema poy afora 13 Nomarxies einai shmantiko.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas exw parakalesei polles fores, gia eidika qemata na apeyqyneste sta armodia Ypoyrgeia. Se oti afora to koinwniko zhthma to opoio qijate sto deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas: H kybernhsh enisxyei tis eidikes aytes omades twn synanqrwpwn mas. Se kamia periptwsh, loipon, den yparxei skech na meiwqoyn epidomata h alloy eidoys pronomia ta opoia dinontai se aytes tis eidikes omades.

POYLIDOY: To COREPER einai eidiko qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei hdh apanthsei eparkws o k. Koymoytsakos.

SIDERHS: Mas eipate na anatrejoyme se prohgoymena briefing. Qymamai oti eixate pei oti qa yparjei eparkhs kalych twn dikaiwmatwn twn ergazomenwn. To eparkhs den shmainei oloklhrwtikh. Ara, menei kati pros dieykrinish.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qymamai an eixa xrhsimopoihsei th lejh thn opoia anaferete.

SIDERHS: Nai, akribws ayth.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ekeino poy sas eixa pei einai pws isxyei oti eixe pei o Prwqypoyrgos sth Qessalonikh, afoy epimenete. Kai otan rwthqhka eidika gia to qema twn symbasioyxwn, h apanthsh moy epi lejei htan oti qa lhfqei merimna kai gia toys symbasioyxoys. Epishs otan rwthqhka, se ola ta briefings twn prohgoymenwn hmerwn, eidika gi` ayto to qema, edwsa thn idia apanthsh: To Ypoyrgeio Apasxolhshs epejergazetai sygkekrimeno sxedio.

MPOTSARAKOS: Tis teleytaies meres exoyme akoysei polles diaforetikes apoceis apo emplekomenoys kai mh emplekomenoys, politika proswpa, Ypoyrgoys, ton Grammatea toy kommatos, gia to ti melei genesqai me thn Olympiakh. An dei kaneis thn eikona qa dei oti yparxoyn toylaxiston pente diaforetikes apoceis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mporeite na mas tis peite;

MPOTSARAKOS: Prwton, akoysame gia symmetoxh toy dhmosioy se neo sxhma. Deyteron, akoysame gia idiwtikopoihsh. Triton, akoysame gia ekkaqarish en leitoyrgia. Tetarton, akoysame kapoion poy eipe oti den prepei na milame gia thn Olympiakh. O k. Liaphs kai o k. Meimarakhs exoyn pei gia loyketo kai sth synexeia eipan na mhn milame. Nomizw oti einai mia tetarth jexwristh apoch. Kai pempton, yparxei h apoch oti prepei na parameinei to kaqestws opws einai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To trito me to pempto einai to idio ap` oti katalaba.

MPOTSARAKOS: Me diaforetikh apoxrwsh omws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: En pash periptwsei, opws exei pei kai o Prwqypoyrgos me safhneia apo th Qessalonikh, kai sas exw pei kai egw edw, h Olympiakh den mporei na synexisei na leitoyrgei me th shmerinh ths morfh. Exoyn apanthqei ta perissotera apo ta erwthmata poy exoyn teqei.

IWANNOY: Sxetika me th stash twn eyrwpaiwn sto qema ths Toyrkias, eipate oti exei apanthsei o k. Koymoytsakos. Omws yparxei mia dhlwsh toy k. Papadopoyloy o opoios ta bazei me th Megalh Bretania kai feretai enantion ths. Qa qelate na mas th sxoliasete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw th dhlwsh toy Proedroy ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Papadopoyloy sthn opoian anafereste, synepws den qa th sxoliasw. Yparxei xqesinh anakoinwsh apo ton Ekproswpo toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn k. Koymoytsako. Epishs gnwrizete oti yparxei kai dhlwsh, prin apo ligh wra, toy Kyprioy omologoy moy k. Xrysostomidh. H diadikasia, opws sas eixa pei, htan dyskolh, makra, kai epiponh. Exoyme omws mia qetikh katalhjh thn opoia qewroyme idiaiterws shmantikh. Ayto kai ws apanthsh sta osa mallon, agnowntas thn oysia toy qematos, eipe xqes o Ekproswpos toy PASOK.

XIWTHS: Qelw na epistrecw sto zhthma twn metarryqmisewn stis DEKO giati omologw oti tis teleytaies meres den katanooyme tis apanthseis poy mas dinete. Sas eixa zhthsei xqes na moy aposafhnisete an oi metarryqmiseis aytes qa ginoyn me th symfwnia twn ergazomenwn, opws egine kai ston OTE toy opoioy to montelo epikaleitai o Prwqypoyrgos h oxi. Me parapemcate stis dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy, tis opoies janadiabasa, alla to mono poy brhka einai oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai anoixtos se protaseis kai se dialogo. Den jekaqarizei an kanei dialogo kai telikws qa apofasisei monos, opws exei kanei kai sto parelqon me tis ergasiakes sxeseis h kanei dialogo gia na apofasisei apo koinoy me toys synarmodioys foreis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epeidh, profanws, diabasate ellipws ta osa eipe o Prwqypoyrgos sth Qessalonikh@

XIWTHS: Olh th nyxta to diabaza kyrie Ypoyrge!

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ma einai toso dyskolo na kanei kaneis reportaz apo grapto keimeno; Sthn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, to perasmeno Sabbato, anaferetai me safhneia oti bebaiws ejantloyme ta periqwria dialogoy, alla oti kai h kybernhsh ofeilei na parei apofaseis kai na proxwrhsei se kapoia qemata. Yparxei sygkekrimeno apospasma ths omilias to opoio apanta sto erwthma sas. Deite to, molis to epanelaba, den to akoysate.

XIWTHS: Syggnwmh, eimai apo to jenyxti, den to katalaba. Alla pws apanta; Einai allo pragma zhtw dialogo kai allo pragma apofasizw h synapofasizw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas anefera prohgoymenws ayta poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos sth Qessalonikh: Ejantloyme ta periqwria toy dialogoy, h kybernhsh omws ofeilei na pairnei apofaseis. To eipe me safhneia o Prwqypoyrgos sthn omilia toy.

Sas eyxaristw.

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