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Aqhna, 2 Ioynioy 2005

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Me aformh thn ekrhjh mhxanismoy sto Ypoyrgeio Apasxolhshs kai Koinwnikhs Prostasias, h kybernhsh dhlwnei oti katadikazei aperifrasta thn apotropaia ayth prajh. Oi qesmoi den tromokratoyntai, den ptooyntai kai den ephreazontai apo tetoies apotropaies kai anandres energeies. Opws anakoinwqhke hdh apo thn Genikh Astynomikh Dieyqynsh, dienergeitai proanakrish.

O Prwqypoyrgos ayrio, stis 11:30, qa exei synergasia, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton Ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs k. A. Papalhgoyra.

@Stis 13:00 qa exei synanthsh me ton prwhn Proedro ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Miltiadh Ebert.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MPOYATAR: Sxetika me th neonazistikh syneyresh poy anakoinwnetai apo th ``Xrysh Aygh'' gia Septembrh sto Meligala, yparxei ena aithma toy KIS na mhn ginei. Yparxei allhlografia se tria Ypoyrgeia kai yparxei dhlwmenh antidrash twn topikwn arxwn gi` ayto to qema. Qa hqela na jerw ti prokeitai na kanei h kybernhsh, pws blepei to qema h kybernhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw.

RABANOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o Prwqypoyrgos shmera epanelabe gia mia akomh fora thn proqesh ths kybernhshs na proxwrhsei se allages, metarryqmiseis kai rhjeis opws eipe. Kai eipe malista oti opoy den yparjei synainesh, emeis ofeiloyme na proxwrhsoyme. H sygkroysh ths kybernhshs me ta syndikata, mexri poy qa ftasei; Kai mexri poy eiste apofasismenoi na ftasete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Omileite peri sygkroysewn me ta syndikata. Den diablepw na yparxei kapoia sygkroysh. Exei ginei kapoia sygkroysh kai den thn gnwrizw;

RABANOS: Profanws. Alla yparxoyn antidraseis, an moy epitrepete.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Allo oi antidraseis, allo h sygkroysh sthn opoia anaferqhkate. Kai oi dyo lejeis exoyn safes nohma. Ara loipon, afoy den yparxei sygkroysh me ta syndikata, qewrw oti h erwthsh sas parelkei. Wstoso qa sas pw ayto poy sas exw pei kai alles fores s` ayth thn aiqoysa kai to eipe kai o Prwqypoyrgos shmera me poly sygkekrimeno tropo: Politikh mas einai h politikh synainesewn. Politikh eyresewn synainetikwn lysewn metajy olwn twn emplekomenwn forewn, twn koinwnikwn etairwn. Se kaqe periptwsh omws h kybernhsh kyberna. Prepei na parei apofaseis ean breqei mprosta se kapoia fainomena, sta opoia den qa yparxei symfwnia ap` oles tis pleyres.

KAKALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos prin apo to shmerino diaggelma eixe kleisei ta aytia toy@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Dhlwsh ekane o Prwqypoyrgos. O Proedros ths Dhmokratias kanei diaggelma.

KAKALHS: Prin apo th shmerinh dhlwsh, opws qelete, eixe kleisei t` aytia toy sto hxhro mhnyma apo th Gallia kai thn Ollandia; Den exei antilhfqei oti to oxi twn lawn aytwn aforoyse kyriws tis diarqrwtikes allages poy prowqei twra h kybernhsh kai exoyn odhghsei se epideinwsh to biotiko epipedo twn lawn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den amfisbhtw thn ikanothta sas na diermhneyete to baqytero ``qelw'' twn lawn ths Ollandias kai ths Gallias. Qa moy epitrecete wstoso na pw oti, sto qema toy Eyrwsyntagmatos, h ellhnikh Boylh exei apofasisei me syntriptikh pleiochfia.

BLAXOS: H hpia prosarmogh exei teleiwsei oristika;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kaqoloy.

BLAXOS: Ayto poy ginetai einai mesa sto plaisio ths hpias prosarmoghs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kathgorhqhkame@

BLAXOS: Oxi, oxi. Den kathgorw kanenan. Erwthsh kanw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, pros Qeoy! Den lew gia sas. Kathgorhqhkame sto parelqon apo to PASOK, me aformh tis ekloges sthn Portogalia, oti h apografh htan laqos. En synexeia, oti h mia monada sto FPA htan laqos. Blepoyme, loipon, xwres opws h Portogalia, alla kai alles xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, na proxwroyn se apografh, na ayjanoyn to FPA se megalytero pososto apo oti ayjhqhke sthn Ellada. Einai, loipon, pragmatika hpia prosarmogh ayto poy ginetai sthn Ellada.

SIDERHS: Eipate oti den blepete sygkroysh me ta syndikata. Oi ``ieremiades'' Polyzwgopoyloy pros thn kybernhsh, h dekahmerh apergia poy ejhggeilan ta ELPE, to spasimo twn syzhthsewn gia to asfalistiko twn trapezwn, den deixnoyn thn aparxh mias sygkroyshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Akomh kai na isxyei ayto poy lete, an briskomastan sthn aparxh mias sygkroyshs, ekeino to opoio einai jekaqaro apo thn kybernhsh einai oti exoyme sygkekrimenes qeseis. Oi dioikhseis twn organismwn stoys opoioys anaferqhkate, syzhtoyn me toys ergazomenoys. Exoyn jekinhsei syzhthseis mazi toys edw kai para poly kairo. Se kaqe periptwsh h kybernhsh kyberna kai to epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora.

TSIODRAS: Sxetika me th dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Leei o k. Karamanlhs: O dhmosios tomeas opws einai shmera, diogkwmenos, spatalos, antiparagwgikos kai grafeiokratikos, dieyrynei ta elleimmata, prosqetei nea barh stoys forologoymenoys, empodizei thn anaptyjh ths oikonomias, apotelei troxopedh sthn epixeirhmatikothta twn Ellhnwn. Apo edw prepei na jekinhsoyme. Qelw na rwthsw giati to jekinhma ginetai 14 mhnes meta apo thn analhch ths ejoysias apo th Nea Dhmokratia kai ti htan ekeino to opoio syntelese sto na katalabei, meta apo 14 mhnes, apo poy na jekinhsei. Kai to deytero, den mporoyme omws kai den exoyme thn polyteleia na xasoyme kai allo xrono. An exei thn ennoia ths aytokritikhs to na xasoyme kai allo xrono.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyn dikio -kai to exete pei kai eseis, fantazomai ws dhmosiografos, to lene polles fores oi politikoi- ekeinoi poy anaferontai sthn apospasmatikh anagnwsh dhlwsewn. H apospasmatikh anagnwsh dhlwsewn dhmioyrgei entypwseis, oi opoies den yfistantai sthn pragmatikothta. Dioti an anagnwsete oloklhrh th dhlwsh, qa deite oti o Prwqypoyrgos milhse gia allages poy hdh exoyn jekinhsei kai exoyn ginei. Ara, loipon, an diabasei kaneis apospasmatika to keimeno, bgazei to symperasma poy lete. An omws to diabasei oloklhro, bgazei ena teleiws diaforetiko symperasma.

TSIODRAS: Nai, apo poy na jekinhsoyme;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Diabaste parakalw oloklhro to keimeno, kai qa deite oti o Prwqypoyrgos rhtws anaferei pws exoyn jekinhsei hdh kai exoyn ginei polles allages. Kai malista anaferqhke kai se mia h dyo apo aytes tis allages.

TSIODRAS: Sxetika me to xrono; Me to deytero erwthma moy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei oti kai gia to prwto.

KYRITSHS: O Prwqypoyrgos anaferei sth dhlwsh toy oti opoy den yparxei ayth h synainesh, emeis ofeiloyme na proxwrhsoyme. Yparxei kapoio xronodiagramma gia thn anazhthsh ayths ths synaineshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kapoia stigmh ejantloyntai ta xronika periqwria. Den mporei na ginetai syzhthsh gia th syzhthsh.

KYRITSHS: Pote peripoy; To kalokairi, to fqinopwro, mesa ston Ioynio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Se kaqe periptwsh qa htan laqos oxi na topoqethqw, alla qa htan laqos na skefqei kaneis etsi. Se kaqe qema yparxei ena periqwrio syzhthsewn. Apo ena shmeio kai meta, diakrinoyn oles oi pleyres oti den yparxoyn peraiterw periqwria. Den qetei, loipon, kapoios ena orio kai leei qa syzhthsoyme gia ena mhna kai teleiwsame. Teqhke kapoio xroniko periqwrio sto dialogo gia thn Paideia gia paradeigma. Kai pali elastika, wste na symfwnhsoyn sto megalytero dynato pososto ola ta kommata. Antistoixws symbainei kai sta qemata ta opoia anaferqhkate. Arxizei mia syzhthsh, ginetai enas dialogos, mia, dyo, treis, pente, deka fores, kapoia stigmh prepei na lhfqoyn apofaseis.

KYRITSHS: Syggnwmh. Na epimeinw ligo s` ayto. Exei pei h kybernhsh oti mesa sto kalokairi, qa proxwrhsei oles aytes tis diarqrwtikes allages. Ara na ypoqesoyme oti o orizontas kai toy dialogoy einai to kalokairi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan ejantloyntai ta periqwria sth syzhthsh, h kybernhsh proxwra me apofash sto sygkekrimeno qema.

KYRITSHS: Ara, isws kai nwritera.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den mporw na sas prosdiorisw xroniko diasthma.

GKOYTZANHS: Eipate oti den blepete sygkroysh me ta syndikata. Thn prokhryjh ths 10hmerhs apergias sta ELPE pws qa thn xarakthrizate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ws ena anafaireto ergatiko dikaiwma, paroti mporei na diafwnw me th logikh basei ths opoias jekinhse ayth h diadikasia. Dioti, eginan syzhthseis opoy kai oi dyo pleyres kateqesan protaseis, oi opoies mporei na eginan h na mhn eginan apodektes apo th mia h thn allh pleyra. Den teleiwse o dialogos.

GKOYTZANHS: Tote den yparxei sygkroysh, an kai ayto den einai sygkroysh.

SARANTAKOS: Qelw na rwthsw gia toys syndikalistes ths DAKE., oi opoioi exoyn thn idia ideologikh afethria me to komma sas kai me toys ypoyrgoys sas, an symmerizontai tis qeseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Kai deyteron, poios syzhta me toys syndikalistes ths Neas Dhmokratias apo thn kybernhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: An ennoeite an symmerizontai, oloi osoi metexoyn sto komma ths Neas Dhmokratias apo opoiadhpote qesh, nai, symmerizontai tis ideologikes apoceis, thn kateyqynsh kai tis programmatikes desmeyseis toy kommatos. Apo ekei kai pera, mporei na yparxoyn diafores. Mporei kapoios gia ena sygkekrimeno qema na exei diaforetikh antilhch -oxi sthn ideologia- gia to pws prepei na ginei kati. Sebastes einai kai aytes.

SARANTAKOS: Poios syzhta mazi toys; Poios einai se dialogo me toys syndikalistes ths Neas Dhmokratias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To komma, fysika.

XIWTHS: Thn idia stigmh poy h kybernhsh dhlwnei oti brisketai se mia diadikasia diaboyleyshs me thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph gia to qema toy basikoy metoxoy, o armodios Epitropos emfanizetai sto Kolegio twn Epitropwn kai zhta ejoysiodothsh gia na proxwrhsei se oles aytes tis energeies gia thn parapomph ths xwras sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio. Qelw na sas rwthsw, meta apo treis mhnes xeirismwn poy kanei ayth h kybernhsh, an mporeite na eggyhqeite oti h xwra den qa parapemfqei sto Eidiko Dikasthrio kai synepws den qa teqoyn se kindyno koinotika kondylia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Jexasate na peite -kai edw nomizw oti exoyme mia apospasmatikh anagnwsh aytoy poy synebh- oti yparxei kai ena ``ean''. Dhladh enas asteriskos sta osa eipe o k. Mak Kribi: Ean den proxwrhsoyn ta osa exoyme synennohqei kai syzhthsei me thn Komision, opws einai h anastolh toy N. 3310. Se ligh wra, exoyme sth Boylh thn tropologia, poy exei katateqei edw kai mia ebdomada, gia thn anastolh toy N. 3310. Se o,ti afora synolika to qema, sas exw pei kai alles fores oti ginontai kapoies syzhthseis, ginontai diaboyleyseis. Gi` aytes tis syzhthseis kai tis diaboyleyseis den qa kanw kamia anakoinwsh mexri otoy oloklhrwqoyn.

XIWTHS: Shmera h Boylh, kalws exontwn twn pragmatwn, qa chfisei mia tropologia poy anastellei ton N. 3310. H Eyrwpaikh Enwsh me thn epistolh toy k. Saoymp.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia thn akribeia anastellei thn hmeromhnia enarjhs isxyos.

XIWTHS: H epistolh toy k. Saoymp qetei dyo alles rhtes proypoqeseis gia na synexistoyn aproskopta oi diaboyleyseis. Thn anastolh toy N.3021 kai, opws plhroforhqhkame xqes, thn ep` aoriston anastolh ths enarjhs isxyos toy N. 3310. Qelw na rwthsw, apo shmera poy anastelletai h enarjh ths isxyos toy neoteroy nomoy, synexizei na isxyei aproskopta o palaioteros;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas exw milhsei gia tis syzhthseis poy ginontai gia to N. 3021. Den exw na prosqesw tipota perissotero. Se o,ti afora to deytero erwthma mas fantazomai oti einai plhroforia, opws eipate, gia thn anastolh xwris xroniko periqwrio. Den prokyptei apo kapoio keimeno.

XIWTHS: Eseis den exete tetoioy eidoys plhroforhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. To keimeno sto opoio anaferomaste to eixa dwsei sth dhmosiothta prin apo 15-20 hmeres.

XIWTHS: O N. 3021 synexizei na efarmozetai kanonika; Qelw na pw, dhladh, oti thn epomenh ebdomada mporei to ESR na synelqei kai na ekdwsei pistopoihtika;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exei yparjei diaforetikh apofash mexri stigmhs.

BLAXOS: Qa hqela na moy apanthsete politika. Parathroyme oti o k. Karamanlhs kanei 14 mhnes kaqysterhmena tis allages ths oikonomikhs politikhs. Parathroyme oti o basikos metoxos exei breqei se adiejodo. Einai profanes oti kapoioi, mesa se aytoys kai eseis, symboyleysan laqos politika ton k. Karamanlh, ayto to diasthma. Ton odhghsan se laqos kinhseis, tis opoies o idios twra allazei. Den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes; Den qa tis analabei kaneis aytes tis politikes eyqynes apo aytoys poy symboyleysan ton k. Karamanlh ayto to diasthma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To qema toy basikoy metoxoy to exoyme ejantlhsei se polles syzhthseis. Moy exei ypoblhqei peripoy etsi erwthsh sas pro kairoy kai exw hdh apanthsei. To qema toy basikoy metoxoy den einai ideologhma. Einai oysia politikhs poy aryetai apo to Syntagma kai th syntagmatikh mas ypoxrewsh. Einai oysia politikhs, giati xtypa sthn kardia ths leitoyrgias ths poiothtas ths Dhmokratias. Ayto, loipon ws politikh epilogh, gnwrizete apo xronia oti einai staqerh politikh epilogh ths Neas Dhmokratias. Se o,ti afora thn ejelijh apo edw kai pera, qa hqela na sas pw na perimenete na teleiwsei prwta h ypoqesh kai tote qa eimai sth diaqesh sas gia opoiesdhpote erwthseis epi toy sygkekrimenoy.

BLAXOS: Moy lete oti, efoson den leitoyrgei kai den efarmozetai o basikos metoxos, den exoyme kalh poiothta dhmokratias ayto to diasthma sthn Ellada; Qelete, dhladh, na moy peite oti epeidh den efarmozetai o basikos metoxos, exoyme diaplokh ayth th stigmh sthn Ellada;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan lete ``den efarmozetai'' ti ennoeite;

BLAXOS: Den efarmozetai o basikos metoxos, einai anenergos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei nomos poy hdh efarmozetai.

BLAXOS: Eseis ferate ena basiko metoxo, o opoios den leitoyrgei. O dikos sas nomos den leitoyrgei. Ypotiqetai ton ferate gia na ftiajete kalyterh poiothta dhmokratias. Ypotiqetai ton ferate gia na xtyphsete th diaplokh. O nomos sas peri basikoy metoxoy den isxyei. Den exoyme kalh poiothta shmera; Den ginontai swsta ta erga; Den pairnoyn ajiokratika ta erga kapoioi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qetete polla qemata mazi.

BLAXOS: Oxi. Ena einai to qema.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Afhste me na sas apanthsw. Qesate mazi polla qemata diaforetika metajy toys. Se o,ti afora sta erga, exw apanthsei polles fores. Yparxei sygkekrimenos nomos, o opoios threitai kai einai apolyths diafaneias. Se o,ti afora sto an efarmozetai h oxi@

BLAXOS: Ara, den xreiazetai o basikos metoxos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas parakalw epitrecte moy na oloklhrwsw thn apanthsh moy. Den einai mono ta dhmosia erga poy anaferontai ston basiko metoxo. Opws gnwrizete einai kai alla: Einai analhceis dhmosiwn symbasewn, genikoteres symbaseis, oxi mono dhmosia erga. Mhpws qymaste alhqeia, pote qa arxize h efarmogh toy nomoy 3310; Stis 14 Ioynioy. Nomizw oti apanthsa.

SIDERHS: Proxqes, stoys dhmosiografoys ths omogeneias, o Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti h kybernhsh exei epitelesei ena terastio erga kai oti einai eyxaristhmenos. Exei aisqhsh toy xioymor o Prwqypoyrgos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei polles fores kai poly sygkekrimena gia to qema ayto. To ergo ths kybernhshs einai megalo, einai kaqhmerino, einai kopiwdes. Einai ena ergo poy apodeiknyetai kaqhmerinws telesforo kai oxi atelesforo. Exoyn ginei shmantikes qesmikes allages. Yparxoyn kai allages sthn kaqhmerinothta toy polith. Ews to telos ths tetraetias -opws sas exw pei kai alles fores- oi desmeyseis mas qa einai prajeis. Ews to telos ths tetraetias qa exei allajei to topio sthn Ellada se sxesh me ayto poy paralabame. Kai sthn oikonomia kai sthn kaqhmerinothta toy polith kai sthn paideia kai sthn ygeia.

SIDERHS: Gia to ``ews twra'' qa me xarakthrizate kakentrexh ean elega oti ki eseis exete thn aisqhsh toy xioymor, gia o,ti exei ginei ews twra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eklambanw xioymoristika thn parathrhsh sas kai den dinw peraiterw synexeia.

KAKALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos sth synanthsh poy eixe to perasmeno Sabbato me ton Dieyqynonta Symboylo twn ELPE k. Xristodoyloy, enhmerwqhke kai edwse to ``prasino fws'' gia thn katarghsh ths syllogikhs symbashs twn ergazomenwn, dhladh, th meiwsh toy misqoy twn neoproslambanomenwn kai th dhmioyrgia ergazomenwn dyo taxythtwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Omileite peri katarghsewn syllogikwn symbasewn se mia kybernhsh, h opoia, an mh ti allo, se kapoioys xwroys -opws ayton poy sas anefera tis proalles kai einai poly synafhs me to diko sas epaggelma- ekane syllogikes symbaseis gia prwth fora meta apo 15-16 xronia. Den isxyei ayto poy lete. Den yparxei kamia katarghsh syllogikhs symbashs. Sebomaste oloi ta dikaiwmata twn ergazomenwn. Sebomenoi ta dikaiwmata twn ergazomenwn, dikaiwmata poy exoyn katakthqei me kopo kai qysies pollwn dekaetiwn, proxwrame sthn ylopoihsh ths politikhs mas.

TSIODRAS: Ena synafes erwthma. Yparxei anakoinwsh toy k. Sioyfa shmera, poy leei oti oi ergazomenoi qa mporoyn na erxontai se apeyqeias synennohsh kai me thn politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy. Ean ayto apotelei parakamch h apodokimasia, kata kapoion tropo, ths kinhshs kai twn dhlwsewn toy k. Xristodoyloy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H anakoinwsh toy k. Sioyfa einai analytikh kai leptomerhs. Ean exete kapoia aporia, parakalw apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs. Den exw na sas pw kati sygkekrimeno se ayto poy moy anaferete. Den exw anagnwsei to sygkekrimeno kommati kai dedomenoy aytoy den qa kanw kanena sxolio.

TSIODRAS: Gia thn oysia ths kinhshs toy k. Xristodoyloy: Briskei symfwnh thn kybernhsh h sygkekrimenh protash;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite ``h oysia ths kinhshs'';

TSIODRAS: Ennow se sxesh me thn protash thn opoia kateqese gia tis syllogikes symbaseis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh einai gnwsths olwn twn syzhthsewn poy ginontai. To oti arxizei dialogos, einai sto plaisio aytoy poy legame prohgoymenws. Sto dialogo katatiqentai apoceis enqen kakeiqen. Ean yphrxe mia mono apoch, den qa yphrxe dialogos. Ean yphrxe apofash genikws, den qa yphrxe dialogos. Gi` ayto yparxei dialogos. Kai ayto apedeixqh peritrana sthn ypoqesh toy OTE.

TSIODRAS: Sthn sygkekrimenh periptwsh den exoyme protash ek meroys twn ergazomenwn, exoyme protash ek meroys ths kybernhshs oysiastika.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Giati, apagoreyei kaneis na kanei h kybernhsh protaseis; Antiqetws.

TSIODRAS: Ara, einai kybernhtikh protash ayth.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas lew oti h kybernhsh kataqetei protaseis. Oi ergazomenoi kataqetoyn protaseis. Syzhtoyn. Prospaqeite na mpeite se ena qema me megalyteres leptomereies. Den qa mpw se perissoteres leptomereies gia to qema. Tis elaxistes fores poy prospaqhsa na kalesw synadelfoys moy edw gia na sas enhmerwsw se baqos, antimetwpisa orgh allwn dhmosiografwn apo alla reportaz. Parakalw o armodios syntakths sto Meso poy ergazeste na apeyqynqei sto Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs gia leptomereies.

GKOYTZANHS: Epi toy sygkekrimenoy apla qa perimename apo thn kybernhsh na apodokimasei tetoies prospaqeies apo kratikoys ajiwmatoyxoys na parabiasoyn ta mexri twra kekthmena kai dedomena. Ayto einai k. Ekproswpe.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Profanws den akoysate th dhlwsh moy prohgoymenws, h opoia den exei kamia ennoia apodokimasias gia kanenan. Einai mia staqera poy diepei thn politikh ayths ths kybernhshs.

MPOYATAR: (Den akoygetai)@toy Ypoyrgeioy Apasxolhshs. Pera apo thn katadikh sas yparxei kai kapoia anhsyxia sthn kybernhsh gia nea tromokratikh drasthriothta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxei anhsyxia. Ginetai ereyna gia na diapistwsoyme ti eidoys ypoqesh einai.

Sas eyxaristw.

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