Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-05-24

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 24 Maioy 2005

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Teleiwse prin apo ligo h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs sthn opoia syzhthqhke nomosxedio toy Ypoyrgeioy Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs. Leptomereis dhlwseis exei kanei o armodios Ypoyrgos k. Mpasiakos. Wstoso qa hqela na epishmanw orismena shmeia poy anaferontai sto nomosxedio kai apoteloyn programmatikes desmeyseis ths Neas Dhmokratias:

Prwton: Idrysh kai leitoyrgia topikwn kentrwn agrotikhs anaptyjhs me stoxo thn plhroforhsh, thn epaggelmatikh kai texnologikh sthrijh twn agrotwn. Prokeitai gia kentra poy qa idryqoyn se diafores perioxes ths Ellados. Oi agrotes qa mporoyn na exoyn apeyqeias epafh me thn Politeia, na plhroforoyntai grhgora ta koinotika programmata etsi wste na mporoyn, ajiologwntas tis eykairies poy toys didontai, na xrhsimopoioyn ayta ta programmata kai th sysswreymenh gnwsh twn epaggelmatiwn gia na proxwrhsoyn analoga se anadiarqrwseis, an qeloyn, twn kalliergeiwn toys h se energeies poy exoyn sxesh me thn proswpikh oikonomikh enisxysh twn epaggelmatiwn mesw aytwn twn programmatwn.

Deyteron: Syntonismos gia ton elegxo twn eisagwgwn agrotikwn proiontwn.

Triton: Dhmioyrgia arxeioy. Prokeitai, dhladh, gia thn kwdikopoihsh meletwn poy ginontai prokeimenoy aytes na ajiopoioyntai kalytera ep` wfeleia twn agrotwn kai

Tetarton: Metra sthrijhs newn agrotwn opws gia paradeigma, atoka daneia kai daneia me enisxymeno epitokio stoys neoys agrotes gia agora ghs kai diafora leitoyrgika ejoda.

O Prwqypoyrgos ayrio stis 09:00, sto Megaro Majimoy, qa synanthqei me thn Proedro ths Boylhs k. Anna Caroyda-Mpenakh.

@Stis 10:00 qa metabei sto Proedriko Megaro, opoy qa synanthqei me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias k. Papoylia, prokeimenoy na ton enhmerwsei gia thn ekbash ths prosfaths episkechs sto Leyko Oiko kaqws kai gia tis synomilies poy eixe me ton amerikano Proedro.

@Stis 18:00 o Prwqypoyrgos qa parastei sthn politikh khdeia toy Xarilaoy Flwrakh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SIDERHS: Mhpws jerete tis hmeromhnies poy h k. Natassa Pazaith, foithse sto Tafts;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws anaferetai sto biografiko ths k. Pazaith exei kanei mia metekpaideysh sto Tafts. Oxi, den gnwrizw tis hmeromhnies. Epiprosqetws, na sas anaferw -kai qa sas bohqhsei sto ergo sas, epeidh diabazw diafora dhmosieymata- oti exei ginei sxetikh erwthsh sth Boylh epi kybernhsews PASOK kai eixe yparjei apanthsh apo ton armodio Ypoyrgo Paideias. Parakalw, gia to reportaz sas, na mhn jexnate oti yparxoyn stoixeia poy mporeite na ta xrhsimopoihsete.

POYLIDOY: Den katalabame tipota. Mporeite na to dieykrinisete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Anaferw oti qemata ta opoia anagrafontai ayth thn periodo ston Typo kai aforoyn th syzygo toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai thn epaggelmatikh ths enasxolhsh, htan qemata poy eginan antikeimeno erwthshs sthn prohgoymenh Boylh. Yparxei loipon apanthsh apo to Ypoyrgeio Paideias epi ypoyrgias Ypoyrgoy PASOK epi kybernhsews PASOK.

POYLIDOY: Fantazomai oti gia to Tafts den apantoyse o k. Eyqymioy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epi th eykairia to eipa.

BLAXOS: O Prwqypoyrgos ejetazei to endexomeno na pame se prowres ekloges;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

BLAXOS: Anasxhmatismo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

BLAXOS: Phrate ton k. Ebert na rwthsete, poioys treis Ypoyrgoys ennoei oti qelei na fygoyn apo thn kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

BLAXOS: Dhmosiografikh periergeia den exete, alla politikh periergeia den exete; Mhpws ennooyse esas gia paradeigma;

TAKHS: Meta ton k. Mhtsotakh, shmera xtyphse kai o k. Ebert. Bebaia gnwrizoyme oti oi sxeseis twn dyo andrwn den einai poly kales, diafwnoyn sta perissotera alla paradojws symfwnoyn se ayto: Oti o k. Karamanlhs prepei na kanei kinhseis. Epeidh yparxei gkrinia, to blepoyme oloi, kai apo boyleytes, twra kai apo prwhn Proedroys. Mhpws o k. Karamanlhs prepei na kanei mia kinhsh gia na kleisei ola ayta ta stomata kai na teleiwsei kai ayth h fagoyra poy th blepoyme ebdomades twra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Ebert einai istoriko stelexos ths paratajhs kai ekfrazei me parrhsia tis apoceis toy.

KORAH: O Prwqypoyrgos par` ola ayta den problhmatizetai apo aytes tis pieseis poy askoyn kai epwnyma kai koryfaia stelexh alla kai h bash. Giati apo pantoy akoygetai ayth h dysareskeia. Ti skeftetai na kanei; Exei kapoio sxedio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos epitelei ergo, to opoio einai kaqhmerino kai sklhro. H kybernhtikh politikh exei apotelesmata se para polloys tomeis. An qelete mporw na sas janadiabasw ton katalogo, poy sas exw diabasei, symplhrwmeno.

KORAH: Dhladh einai eyxaristhmenos me ton tropo poy leitoyrgei h kybernhsh toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei. O Prwqypoyrgos kaqhmerina asxoleitai me to ergo toy. Parakoloyqei toys Ypoyrgoys, thn kybernhsh. Opws gnwrizete, exei hdh syzhthsei kai me ton kaqena Ypoyrgo xwrista, episkeptetai ta Ypoyrgeia. Ergo ginetai kai einai megalo ergo, me bash tis proeklogikes mas desmeyseis, tis programmatikes mas desmeyseis. Shmera eixa thn eykairia na sas anaferw orismena mono shmeia poy aforoyn ton agrotiko kosmo. Se oti afora kapoioy eidoys proskaires entypwseis aytes qa meinoyn entypwseis.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite gia to antikeimeno ths syskechs poy prohghqhke ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, poy symmeteixan oi oikonomikoi Ypoyrgoi ki eseis kai poies einai oi, kat` eyfhmismon, metarryqmiseis poy qa proxwrhsete sto epomeno diasthma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ennoeite thn pro ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs syskecews; Syzhthqhkan genika oikonomika qemata, me aformh thn omilia poy qa kanei o Prwqypoyrgos, se dyo hmeres, sth Genikh Syneleysh toy SEB.

SIDERHS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs enhmerwse giati ayjhse dramatika to dhmosio xreos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayjhse dramatika o k. Alogoskoyfhs to dhmosio xreos;

SIDERHS: Bebaiws. To brhkate sto 109 kai to phgate sto 120.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To elleimma kai to xreos eixan fqasei se dysqewrhta ych. H politikh ayths ths kybernhshs -h opoia krinetai kaqhmerinws, kai qa kriqei, oson afora to elleimma, sto telos ths dietias-krinetai parallhla kai se mhniaia, dimhniaia kai ejamhniaia bash. Einai mia politikh poy meiwnei to xreos. Exoyn hdh ginei perikopes se dhmosies dapanes, tis opoies tis exw anaferei polles fores. Einai mia politikh poy qa meiwsei to elleimma sta epiqymhta -symfwna me ta symfwnhqenta ennow- kata thn Komision epipeda.

GKOYTZANHS: Egine arketos qorybos kai syzhthsh gia ton tropo ths ypodoxhs xqes ths k. Paparizoy, opws egine kai kritikh gia th dejiwsh poy qa paraqesei se ligo o Prwqypoyrgos. Kritikh kai se esas proswpika gia olh ayth thn fiesta. Exete na peite kati gi ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyn ginei, se o,ti me afora, toses kritikes poly xeiroteres, wste aytes poy lete den einai tipota.

GKOYTZANHS: Mporw ean qelete na sas pw poio einai to shmeio. Oti ekmetalleyeste.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parakalw na shmeiwsete to ejhs: O topos pantote timoyse anqrwpoys poy diakrinontai. Einai kalo na jefygoyme ligo apo mia mizeria, den einai proswpiko se o,ti afora thn erwthsh sas. Qa hqela na jefygoyme apo mia mizeria. Na timoyme anqrwpoys poy diakrinontai kai timoyn ton topo. H prwtia ayth sth Eurovision edwse mia eykairia sthn Ellada na janakoystei me qetiko tropo sta perata ths ghs. Ayto einai kati to opoio, an mh ti allo, h xwra ofeilei na to ekmetalleyqei yper toy toyristikoy reymatos, ths eikonas poy dhmioyrgei sto ejwteriko kai twn newn proypoqesewn. Einai poly shmantiko na exoyme prwties, se dieqnes epipedo, se opoiadhpote dieqnh diorganwsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Kai thn kritikh poy arkeitai se esas, to oti prospaqeite na ekmetalleyqeite politika mia epityxia anamfibolh twn syntelestwn ths;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Entajei, eimaste oloi yperhfanoi gi ayto poy egine, alla kanate tameio; Poso mas kostise ayth h istoria;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws exei hdh anakoinwsei o Proedros ths ERT -h opoia opws gnwrizete metexei ws diorganwtria sthn Eurovision- ta esoda apo ayth thn ypoqesh einai peripoy 400.000 eyrw. Ara loipon, exoyme esoda. Syn bebaiws ta terastia esoda, ta opoia den apotypwnontai eykola se xrhma, apo th dieqnh diafhmish ths xwras. Kai ekei milame gia ekatontades ekatommyria eyrw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ejoda den eixame;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa. Den akoysate thn apanthsh moy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, eipate gia esoda 400.000 eyrw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan milw gia esoda shmainei oti exoyme kalycei ta ejoda mas kai exoyme bgalei kai esoda.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Posa htan ta ejoda mas jerete; Mporeite na mas peite;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parakalw na rwthsete ton Proedro ths ERT.

RABANOS: Na epanelqw sto qema ths prwinhs syskechs, epeidh meteixan o Prwqypoyrgos kai tesseris koryfaioi Ypoyrgoi. Epeidh akoyme synexeia oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai problhmatismenos, piezetai na parei kapoies prwtoboylies, syzhthqhke h ypoqesh Xoyph kai oi parenergeies ths;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Syzhthqhke mono to qema poy sas eipa.

TAKHS: Epeidh eipate prin gia mizeria, gia na jefygoyme k.lp. Den qewreite oti kai oles aytes oi kritikes, oi dhlwseis kai oi topoqethseis poy ginontai einai mia mizeria kai endexomenws na qampwnoyn thn eikona ths kybernhshs kai ayto to ergo poy prospaqei na kanei o Prwqypoyrgos kai me kapoio tropo endexomenws prepei na stamathsoyn; Isws me mia kinhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sth Dhmokratia oi antiqetes fwnes einai aytes poy thn enisxyoyn kai thn xalybdwnoyn. Sth Dhmokratia, epishs, o poliths exei th dynatothta na plhroforhqei eleyqera ta osa mia kybernhsh prattei. Sth Dhmokratia ofeilei kaneis na sebetai toys kanones. Emeis toys sebomaste perissotero apo kaqe allo.

POYLIDOY: Qa katebasw ligo to epipedo kai qa epanelqw sto prohgoymeno qema. Prwton, h kybernhsh symfwnei me th dhlwsh ths k. Paparizoy, h opoia eyxhqhke h Oykrania na entaxqei sthn E.E.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To deytero;

POYLIDOY: Gia na sas dieykolynw gi ayto rwthsa xwrista. H deyterh erwthsh einai oti moy ekane foberh entypwsh h prwtoboylia ths Pyrosbestikhs Yphresias, h opoia eraine me kroynoys neroy to aeroplano poy metefere thn k. Paparizoy sthn Aqhna. To ti ekane h Aegean einai qema idiwtikhs prwtoboylias to katalabainw. To ti kanei h Pyrosbestikh poy einai mia dhmosia yphresia kai dapana, kat ayton ton tropo, ena dhmosio agaqo, dhladh, opoiadhpote dhmosia yphresia qa mporoyse na ekfrasei aytoboylws, xwris kanenan elegxo thn eyareskeia ths gia mia eqnikh epityxia ths tajhs ths Eurovision;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mporeite na apeyqynqeite sto aerodromio to opoio oysiastika ryqmizei ta ths ypodoxhs, analogws twn anqrwpwn poy erxontai gia na toys ypodexqoyn.

POYLIDOY: H Pyrosbestikh Yphresia ypagetai stis Yphresies toy aerodromioy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws.

POYLIDOY: Den apanthsate sthn prwth erwthsh moy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oyte kai prokeitai.

KAKALHS: Pws sxoliazete to gegonos, enocei kai ths omilias toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Genikh Syneleysh toy SEB, oti o Prwqypoyrgos milaei apokleistika me megaloepixeirhmaties kai thn hgesia toy SEB gia thn oikonomikh politikh kai ta metra poy qa parei to epomeno diasthma; Kai ena deytero erwthma, an einai etoimo to nomosxedio gia thn elastikopoihsh twn ergasiakwn sxesewn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den isxyei to ``apokleistika''. O Prwqypoyrgos kanei dialogo me diafores koinwnikes omades, opws allwste kanoyn kai oi Ypoyrgoi dialogo me polles koinwnikes omades gia polla pragmata. Oson afora sto deytero erwthma sas, exei kanei anakoinwseis gia thn poreia aytwn twn qematwn, prin apo poly kairo, o Ypoyrgos Apasxolhshs k. Panagiwtopoylos. Qa meinw se aytes tis anakoinwseis.

KAKALHS: Neotero qema@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa meinw stis anakoinwseis toy k. Panagiwtopoyloy.

GKOYTZANHS: H kybernhsh qewrei thn prwth qesh sto diagwnismo ths Eurovision eqnikh epityxia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Shmantikh epityxia, h opoia proballei th xwra dieqnws.

KORAH: Qa epanelqw sto qema ths syzygoy toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Afhsate kapoia yponooymena, prohgoymenws, gia ta dhmosieymata poy aforoyn to proswpo ths. Kai epeidh akribws kai h efhmerida sthn opoia ergazomai exei ena reportaz shmera gia to metaptyxiako ths k. Karamanlh, den katalabainw: einai kako na einai gnwsto to biografiko ths prwths kyrias; Giati qewreite oti prepei na yparxoyn kapoia ypopta, otidhpote pisw apo ayth thn anafora; Den prepei na einai safes to biografiko ths prwths kyrias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai to prwto dhmosieyma. Alimono! To erwthma poy qetete eseis gia to biografiko, bebaiws. Allwste den ejanagkasthke kaneis@

KORAH: Dhladh, einai kako na jeroyme pote ekane farmakologia sto Tufts h k. Karamanlh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den ejanagkasthke kaneis na dhmosieysei to biografiko ths syzygoy toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Kata synepeia, to erwthma sas parelkei. Den qa eprepe na ginei to erwthma ayto. An eixe yparjei ejanagkasmos gia na dhmosieyqei to biografiko, to antilambanomai.

KORAH: Oxi ejanagkasmos. Afora thn prwth kyria. Se opoio site kai an mpeite, se opoiadhpote xwra toy kosmoy, yparxei analytika pote gennhqhke, pote pantreythke, pote teleiwse to Panepisthmio gia oles tis prwtes kyries. Giati na mhn yparxei ayto kai gia th dikh mas prwth kyria;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Antistoixws symbainei kai sthn Ellada. Deyteron, opws eipa kai prohgoymenws me aformh allo erwthma poy teqhke, ekana mia epipleon prosqhkh. Exw dei polla dhmosieymata ton teleytaio kairo. Ki egw se ayto ton topo zw kai diabazw efhmerides. Den htan, loipon, to prwto dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas sthn opoia ergazeste, wste na qigeite. Edw briskomai gia na sas dinw apanthseis, na bohqw kai to rolo sas, ws dhmosiografwn, wste na kanete kalytero reportaz. Kai sas edwsa mia plhroforia poy endexomenws eixate jexasei: To qema exei syzhthqei pleistakis sto parelqon kai ejantlhqhke me sxetikh erwthsh sth Boylh, sthn opoia exei doqei apanthsh.

KORAH: Gia na teleiwnoyn ola ayta, einai kako h kybernhsh na bgalei ena akribes biografiko ths k. Karamanlh, me hmeromhnies; Ti egine, pote kai ti;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Pws to qelete eseis to biografiko;

KORAH: Mporeite na apeyqynqeite sta sites allwn kybernhsewn kai na parete ena sxedio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parakalw, steilte moy to sxedio biografikoy poy eseis qa qelate, pws qa to qelate, na to ereynhsoyme kai na sas apanthsw.

KORAH: Sas edwsa th lysh.

GALIATSATOS: Sas rwtaw me aformh to shmerino prwtoselido dhmosieyma twn NEWN gia ta panwtokia, an h kybernhsh ejetazei peraiterw epektash ayths ths ryqmishs h beltiwseis sth ryqmish. Giati, para polloi ofeiletes menoyn ektos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat` arxas, anaireitai apo thn idia thn efhmerida ayto to opoio lete. An, dhladh, kaneis anoijei thn efhmerida kai diabasei to dhmosieyma, qa diapistwsei oti yparxei enas pinakas ston opoio anaferetai ena poly xamhlo pososto lhjhs twn problhmatwn, enw antiqetws to pososto einai poly ychlo. Kai to stoixeio poy sas lew anaferetai se ayton ton idio pinaka. Dhladh, ayto to opoio ginetai @kai to eixa pei kai me allh aformh edw, mh anaferomenos tote sthn efhmerida, alla einai h deyterh fora poy shmera TA NEA grafoyn to idio pragma- einai oti exoyme ena sygkekrimeno ariqmo aithsewn kai apo tis aithseis aytes ena sygkekrimeno ariqmo lyshs twn problhmatwn. An, loipon, dei kaneis oxi to synoliko ariqmo, alla to sygkekrimeno ariqmo aithsewn, qa diapistwsei oti aytoi poy aithqhkan na lyqoyn ta problhmata toys, ikanopoihqhkan kata 72%. Sthn Agrotikh Trapeza, eidikotera, ypoblhqhkan 50.000 aithseis agrotwn poy aforoyn synolika 150.000 daneia. Apo aytoys 36.000 agrotes, me 108.000 xiliades daneia, empiptoyn sth ryqmish toy nomoy. Synepws, to 72% twn agrotwn poy exoyn lhjiproqesma xreh sthn Agrotikh Trapeza wfeloyntai apo to nomo gia ta panwtokia. Malista, oi ofeiles poy diagrafontai gia toys agrotes anerxontai se 1.350 ekatommyria eyrw. Dhladh, to pososto ths diagrafhs gi` aytoys anhlqe sto 68% twn ofeilwn toys. Epipleon, oi ofeiles twn agrotwn, opws aytes perioristhkan apo to nomo, ryqmizontai me poly eynoikoys oroys: diarkeia 10 etwn, periodos xaritos 2 etwn, epitokio 5%. Yparxei analytikh anakoinwsh ths Agrotikhs Trapezas thn opoia qa exete kai apanta se akomh perissotera erwthmata. Egw qa meinw mono sto shmeio poy anefera: Einai allos o ariqmos twn problhmatwn poy yparxoyn kai allos o ariqmos twn oswn aithqhkan na lyqoyn ta problhmata toys. Dioti ean kapoios den ekane aithsh na lyqei to problhma, pws einai dynaton statistika na paroyme ton ariqmo toy synolikoy problhmatos kai me bash ayton na poyme oti den lyqhkan problhmata; Qa prepei na doyme me bash aytoys poy qelhsan na ryqmisoyn ta xreh toys, ta panwtokia. Kai me bash aytoys poy qelhsan na ta ryqmisoyn, sas lew oti to pososto einai arketa ychlo, anerxetai sto 72%.

GALIATSATOS: Parola ayta, epeidh kai apo aytoys poy qelhsan na ryqmisoyn ta panwtokia, ena megalo pososto menei ektos@

ROYSOPOYLOS: To 28% ennoeite.

GALIATSATOS: Einai arketoi kata th gnwmh moy. Meleta h kybernhsh epektash ths ryqmishs twn panwtokiwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi ofeiles twn agrotwn poy den empiptoyn sto nomo einai prosfaths ryqmishs, lhjhs dhladh meta to @97. Den yparxei kanenos eidoys nea meleth. Efoson diapistwqei oti yparjei pragmatiko problhma, qa janadoyme to zhthma. Wstoso, mexri stigmhs, to apotelesma einai arketa ikanopoihtiko, otan apo toys aitoyntes to 72% exei ikanopoihqei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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