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Aqhna, 7 Aprilioy 2005

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

H Eyrwpaikh Epitroph anagnwrise me thn ajiologhsh toy epikairopoihmenoy Programmatos Staqerothtas kai Anaptyjhs oti h Ellada kineitai apotelesmatika pros thn kateyqynsh toy noikokyrematos twn dhmosiwn oikonomikwn, me emfash tis dhmosies dapanes. H anagnwrish egine me ton pleon epishmo tropo apo ta xeilh toy armodioy Epitropoy k. Almoynia, o opoios xarakthristika kai me to safestero dynato tropo eipe: ``Ajizoyn sygxarhthria sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh, oxi mono gia thn aysthrh efarmogh toy Proypologismoy toy 2005, alla kai thn anakoinwsh prosqetwn metrwn fetos. Lambanontas ypoch toys yparxontes kindynoys, ekfrazw thn ikanopoihsh moy gia th desmeysh ths Elladas na ypobalei proypologismo gia to 2006 ston opoio to elleimma qa meiwnetai katw apo to 3% toy AEP.''

H kybernhsh apokaqista me synepeia thn ajiopistia ths xwras enanti twn etairwn mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, efarmozontas thn politikh ths hpias kai atalanteyths dhmosionomikhs prosarmoghs. To sxedio ths kybernhshs gia thn oikonomia anaptyssetai mesa sto xrono, exei prooptikh kai qa ferei qetika kai monima apotelesmata.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs, qa exei synanthsh shmera stis 18.00 me to Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Apostolo Stayroy. O Prwqypoyrgos stis 19.00 qa parastei se ekqesh geloiografias me qema thn ygeia. H ekqesh pragmatopoieitai sto plaisio toy eortasmoy ths Pagkosmias Hmeras Ygeias, sto Megaro Moysikhs.

O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio Paraskeyh, 8 Aprilioy, stis 10.30 to prwi, qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy me ton Proedro toy Organismoy Biomhxanikhs Idiokthsias (EPO) kaqhghth k. Alen Pompintoy. Stis 11 yparxei programmatismenh syskech toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys 13 Perifereiarxes ths xwras. Sth syskech qa symmetasxoyn epishs oi Ypoyrgoi k. Paylopoylos kai k. Sioyfas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KAKALHS: H kybernhsh aisqanetai yperhfanh gia ta eyshma apo ton Almoynia, otan ayta shmainoyn litothta gia ton ellhniko lao, foroepidromes kainoyrgies kai perikopes koinwnikwn dapanwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den shmainoyn tipote apo ola ayta, ta opoia molis anaferate. Shmainoyn apokatastash ths dhmosionomikhs isorropias, wste meta apo ta dyo dyskola xronia @gia ta opoia milhsame me eilikrineia ston ellhniko lao- oi qysies poy qa kanoyn oi Ellhnes polites na apodwsoyn karpoys. Kai na mporesoyn oi Ellhnes polites na apolaysoyn toys karpoys mias staqerhs oikonomikhs katastashs.

GKOYTZANHS: An den apatwmai h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh leei kai gia monima metra@

ANTWNAROS: H Eyrwpaikh Enwsh leei para poly apla ayto poy kai o Prwqypoyrgos kai o k. Alogoskoyfhs exoyn pei epaneilhmmena: Qa paroyme tolmhres apofaseis, qa kanoyme diarqrwtikes allages, wste oi streblwseis poy yparxoyn sthn oikonomia na antimetwpistoyn se baqos xronoy. Ayto den einai kati kainoyrgio.

GKOYTZANHS: Oxi. Ayto einai metra h den einai;

ANTWNAROS: Einai mia aparaithth anasygkrothsh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Den einai tipote to kainoyrgio. H qespish, fer` eipein, toy neoy eqnikoy wrarioy den einai metro anasygkrothshs ths oikonomias; Den qa epidrasei qetika sth leitoyrgia ths oikonomias; Asfalws kai qa epidrasei.

SIDERHS: H qespish toy neoy wrarioy qa epidroyse qetika ean o kosmos eixe lefta na agorasei. H pita einai dedomenh. Ayto ws sxolio. Twra, parakoloyqoyme ena qeatro toy paralogoy. Dia ths apografhs epibalate litothta kai epaireste poy epibalate litothta kai sas lene mprabo apo thn Eyrwph.

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, exoyme diaforetikh qewrhsh twn pragmatwn. Ayto to opoio eseis apokaleite litothta einai apokatastash ths dhmosionomikhs omalothtas. Prepei h xwra na mporesei na brei ekeinoys toys poroys poy xreiazetai, wste na paei mprosta. Ayto qa ginei me diaforoys tropoys:

@ Qa ginei me thn peristolh twn dapanwn, thn opoia sas exoyme anakoinwsei. Kai opws leei, allwste, kai h ekqesh ths Epitrophs proxwrei para poly kala.

@ Qa ginei me thn enisxysh ths epixeirhmatikothtas, h opoia epishs proxwrei. O k. Sioyfas anakoinwse, prin apo ligo, oti yparxoyn kainoyrgia sxedia, protaseis gia ependyseis. Kai,

@ Qa paei, epishs, mprosta me tis diarqrwtikes allages, tis opoies exoyme proanaggeilei oti qa ginoyn.

Ola ayta ginontai pros ofelos twn Ellhnwn politwn. Aytoi qa wfelhqoyn.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes to apogeyma sth Boylh, o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias eipe oti h kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei se dyskoles metarryqmiseis kai zhthse thn eyryterh synainesh toylaxiston toy PASOK. Qa hqela na mas peite: Prwton, ean jerete se poia qemata anaferete, ektos an einai Asfalistiko, ergasiakes sxeseis kai ti allo mporei na einai ayto; Kai, deyteron, ean den yparxei h synainesh apo to PASOK qa proxwrhsei h kybernhsh se aytes tis dyskoles, opws leei, metarryqmiseis;

ANTWNAROS: O Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Alogoskoyfhs zhthse, bebaiws, th synergasia twn politikwn dynamewn ths xwras. Ean oi politikes dynameis ths xwras @kai kyriws h Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh, alla oxi mono- den arqoyn sto ycos twn peristasewn, h kybernhsh, bebaiws, exei proqesh na proxwrhsei se ekeines tis allages, se ekeines tis metarryqmiseis, poy xreiazontai wste h xwra na paei mprosta. Kai pisteyw oti einai apolytws aparaithto na katalaboyn h Antipoliteysh kai o arxhgos ths, oti me to steiro kai kataggeltiko politiko logo -o opoios den emperiexei kamia apolytws protash- den prosferoyn tipote sth xwra.

IWANNOY: Epanerxomai, giati eixe kai ena prwto skelos: Gia poies diarqrwtikes allages, an eiste se qesh na mas peite.

ANTWNAROS: Qa anakoinwqoyn, otan eimaste etoimoi.

SARANTAKOS: Milhsate gia to wrario twn katasthmatwn, to eqniko wrario opws to eipate, kai malista rwthsate kai apanthsate ki eseis oti qa bohqhsei thn oikonomia pros thn kateyqynsh ths anaptyjhs. Wstoso, blepoyme oti oyte enas Emporikos Syllogos se oloklhrh th xwra, oi idioi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias me parapona toys sto Geniko Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs k. Baggelh Meimarakh diafwnoyn me ayth thn epilogh ths kybernhshs. Qa proxwrhsete para tis antidraseis; Kai me poia synainesh qa proxwrhsete, dedomenoy oti den exete oyte ena symmaxo se ayth th fash, toylaxiston gi` ayth thn epilogh;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh brisketai se dialogo me oloys toys endiaferomenoys foreis kai na eiste sigoyros oti poly syntoma qa exoyme sygkekrimena apotelesmata. Qa hqela na sas pw ena paradeigma: Prin apo arketa xronia -20 nomizw- osoi apasxoloyntan sta grafeia sthn Ellada, ergazontan me diakekommeno wrario. Eiste poly neoteros apo emena kai asfalws den qa qymaste th megalh fasaria poy eixe ginei tote, tis antidraseis poy yphrxan otan egine prospaqeia, wste na efarmostei to synexes wrario. Rwthste shmera aytoys poy ergazontai se grafeia an qa hqelan na epanelqoyn sto diakekommeno wrario. Den nomizw oti qa breite kapoion na apanthsei qetika.

SARANTAKOS: Qa epimeinw se ayto, an moy epitrepete. Eiste etoimoi, para tis antidraseis, na proxwrhsete; Eipate oti qa doyme ta apotelesmata apo to dialogo poy jekina h kybernhsh. Mexri twra, toylaxiston, egw den exw dei, peite moy an kanw laqos, kapoion na symfwnei apo toys Emporikoys Syllogoys, toys amesa emplekomenoys. Qa proxwrhsete oytws h allws;

ANTWNAROS: Biazeste na prokatalabete to apotelesma toy dialogoy, ths antallaghs apocewn, twn synennohsewn. As perimenoyme thn ekbash aytwn twn epafwn. H xwra xreiazetai, omws, kai tolmhres apofaseis.

TSIODRAS: Qa sas diabasw mia dhlwsh poy ekane o Yfypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Nakos, milwntas se kommatikh ekdhlwsh ths Neas Dhmokratias, sta Grebena: ``Prepei na broyn kai ta dika mas paidia ises eykairies poy htan apokleismena tosa xronia. Eimaste oi kalyteroi. Ta dika mas paidia einai poly kala paidia kai mia ajiokratikh diadikasia shmainei probadisma sta dika mas paidia''.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy ayth th dhlwsh toy Yfypoyrgoy kai synepws den prokeitai na th sxoliasw. Ekeino to opoio exw na sas epanalabw einai oti oi proslhceis kai h apasxolhsh Ellhnidwn kai Ellhnwn politwn, ginontai kai prepei na ginontai me ajiokratika krithria.

TSIODRAS: Qa hqela na moy peite, ean armozei se ena stelexos ths kybernhshs na xrhsimopoiei thn ekfrash ``ta dika mas paidia''.

ANTWNAROS: Moy diabazete mia dhlwsh poy den moy einai gnwsth. Synepws, den mporw na th sxoliasw.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Yparxei se binteo.

ANTWNAROS: Topoqetoymai ws Ekproswpos ths kybernhshs. Sas apanthsa. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo panw se ayto.

TSIODRAS: Thn ekfrash ``dika mas paidia'' th xrhsimopoioyn boyleytes, ypoyrgoi;

ANTWNAROS: Ekfrazw thn aporia moy gia thn erwthsh sas.

GKOYTZANHS: Qa to elegjete gia na mas apanthsete ayrio;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio.

GKOYTZANHS: Mas eipate allo pragma, oti den gnwrizete th dhlwsh.

TSIODRAS: To ``ekfrash aporias'' einai gia thn erwthsh h gi` ayta poy eipe o k. Nakos;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio.

POYLIDOY: H apanthsh sas ermhneyetai ws anoxh. Sas epishmainw ayto.

ANTWNAROS: Sas exw pei oti to dikaiwma ths ermhneias twn legomenwn moy einai apokleistika dikh sas armodiothta.

POYLIDOY: Gia na sas dieykolynw to lew.

ANTWNAROS: Den xreiazomai dieykolynseis. Eyxaristw pantws poly gia thn kalosynh sas.

LEONTITSH: Stis 24 kai tis 30 Martioy, stis fylakes anhlikwn shmeiwqhkan dyo qanatoi agoriwn 20 kai 21 etwn apo narkwtika. Thn idia wra, maqainoyme oti egine allagh en kryptw toy dieyqynth twn fylakwn. Giati den anakoinwqhke h allagh toy dieyqynth kai giati h kybernhsh den dinei ta epishma stoixeia apo qanatoys ejaitias twn narkwtikwn stis fylakes;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, opoy ypagontai oi fylakes, gia na parete tis sxetikes plhrofories sas kai na mhn ginomai egw metaforeas tetoiwn eidikwn plhroforiwn. Fantazomai oti einai poly eykolo na apeyqynqeite sto grafeio toy k. Papalhgoyra, o opoios asfalws kai qa sas dwsei ta stoixeia poy zhtate.

LEONTITSH: Gia to dieyqynth, na apeyqynqoyme ston k. Papalhgoyra. Mporeite na desmeyteite na mas apanthsete ayrio, giati den dinontai sth dhmosiothta ta epishma stoixeia apo toys qanatoys;

ANTWNAROS: Kai ayto einai qema toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs, opws kai osa ginontai stis fylakes.

GKOYTZANHS: Yparxei mia ereyna ths KAPPA RESEARCH shmera apo dhmoskophsh poy metadidei o FLASH, poy leei oti to 60% twn politwn qewrei oti h kybernhsh den qa thrhsei tis yposxeseis ths mexri to telos ths tetraetias. To 48,4% th qewrei anajiopisth kai to 59% den ths exei pleon empistosynh. Jerw oti den sxoliazete dhmoskophseis, eidika ama einai dysarestes gia thn kybernhsh@

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazoyme dhmoskophseis. To ekane mono mia fora o k. Roysopoylos se aythn edw thn aiqoysa.

GKOYTZANHS: Nai. Gi` ayto to eipa. To erwthma, omws, einai mhpws h kybernhsh problhmatizetai me ayto to elleimma ajiopistias poy emfanizei sthn koinh gnwmh meta thn lhch twn forologikwn metrwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw kanena apotelesma dhmoskophsewn.

GKOYTZANHS: Den zhthsa na sxoliasete @

ANTWNAROS: Den diapistwnw kanena elleimma ajiopistias ths kybernhshs.

GKOYTZANHS: Eipate, epishs, oti otan eimaste etoimoi qa sas anakoinwsoyme tis diarqrwtikes allages. Exei perasei enas xronos poy eiste sthn kybernhsh. Pote qa hsaste etoimoi k. Ekproswpe;

ANTWNAROS: Sxetika me tis diarqrwtikes allages, sas anaferw mia poy anakoinwqhke hdh: To eqniko wrario. Yparxei ena sxedio drashs ths kybernhshs. Otan kati einai etoimo, tote anakoinwnetai.

GKOYTZANHS: An moy epitrepete, epeidh jekinhsate to shmerino briefing me mia dhlwsh toy k. Almoynia, o opoios epibrabeyei thn oikonomikh sas politikh, sas qymizw oti sto qema toy Basikoy Metoxoy, yparxei antistoixos epitropos poy den epibrabeyei kaqoloy thn politikh sas, alla ekei kratate diaforetikh stash. Giati ayth h @ ``a la carte'' antimetwpishs ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs;

ANTWNAROS: H Ellada, h ellhnikh kybernhsh, briskontai se dialogo me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Kai ayto akribws to opoio eipate apodeiknyei oti se dyo basika qemata, toylaxiston opws ta paroysiazoyn ta MME @ kai den to lew ayto kaqoloy apajiwtika, pros Qeoy @ aytos o dialogos brisketai se plhrh ejelijh. Antallassoyme epistoles, antallassoyme apoceis kai katalhgoyme se symperasmata. Etsi exei ejelixqei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh ta teleytaia 45 xronia: me antallagh apocewn, qesewn, zymwsh diafwniwn, zymwsh diaforetikwn proseggisewn metajy twn melwn ths, poy apo 6 eftasan 25, alla kai metajy ths, enos meloys h omadas melwn, me thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph. Synepws kati tetoio den einai kaqoloy asynhqisto.

TSIODRAS: Sto zhthma toy Basikoy Metoxoy kai ths epistolhs poy esteile h ellhnikh pleyra, anaferei se kapoio shmeio gia thn anazhthsh ``koinoy topoy'' me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, qa hqela na jerw an aytos o ``koinos topos'' qa breqei mesa apo antallagh epistolwn h an protiqetai kapoioi Ypoyrgoi na metaboyn stis Bryjeles, na exoyn epitopoy synennohseis, prokeimenoy ap` oti katalabainw na breqei enas mesos oros. Kai mesos oros, ap` oti katalabainw pali @ peite moy an katalabainw laqos @ einai kapoies tropopoihseis sto nomo. Giati, nomizw, tropopoihsh ston tropo me ton opoio leitoyrgei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh einai ligaki dyskolo na zhthsoyme.

ANTWNAROS: Giati; Den einai akribes ayto. Katalhgete se symperasmata xrhsimopoiwntas lejeis oi opoies den periexontai sto keimeno poy apesteile xqes h ellhnikh kybernhsh.

TSIODRAS: Oxi, o ``koinos topos'' einai mia @

ANTWNAROS: Exw to keimeno mprosta moy. H ellhnikh kybernhsh leei oti h antallagh qesewn kai apocewn qa odhghsei sthn ejeyresh ``koinwn topwn''. H ellhnikh kybernhsh topoqethqhke xqes ektenws, me safhneia kai peistikothta. Apo kei kai pera perimenoyme ta epomena bhmata. Den exw na prosqesw tipota pera ap` ayto.

TSIODRAS: Rwtw, o ``koinos topos'' qa breqei dia allhlografias h qa ginoyn kai kapoies synanthseis stis Bryjeles, kapoia apostolh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Den problepetai, ayth th stigmh, kamia synanthsh.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mias kai exete, opws lete thn epistolh mprosta sas, mporeite na mas ejhghsete pws akribws ta MME poy drasthriopoioyntai sthn Ellada, exoyn parekklinei ths apostolhs toys; Einai ayto poy epi lejh anaferei h epistolh poy esteile xqes h kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena apolytws sxolio sto periexomeno ths epistolhs. Parakalw na th diabasete. Einai ektenhs kai ta leei ola mesa.

SPYRAKH: Me sygxwreite. Eipate oti den qelete na sxoliasete to periexomeno ths epistolhs, yparxei wstoso ena qema, opws diapistwnei enas koinos anagnwsths ths epistolhs. To topio twn MME sthn Ellada kai twn sxesewn toys me ta epixeirhmatika symferonta, perigrafetai me @ epitrecte moy thn ekfrash @ melana xrwmata. Milate se kapoio shmeio gia ``mh anekth katastash'', th qymamai akribws thn paragrafo. Qa hqela na moy peite ean qewreite oti mia tetoia perigrafh bohqa kai syntelei sthn eikona ths xwras sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

ANTWNAROS: Synistate th meqodo toy stroyqokamhlismoy;

SPYRAKH: Oxi. Rwtw.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. H epistolh ta leei ola.

GKOYTZANHS: Qa xreiazotan nomizw kapws peraiterw ejhghsh gia to poia einai h ``metallajh toy roloy twn MME'', giati otan to diabasa moy dhmioyrghqhke h entypwsh oti h Ellada einai to basileio ths diafqoras kai oxi mia eynomoymenh dhmokratia, estw me kapoies parekkliseis.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw na diabasete thn teleytaia ekqesh toy Transparency International, gia na diapistwsete se poio epipedo diafqoras briskotan h xwra mas otan anelabe th diakybernhsh h Nea Dhmokratia.

POYLIDOY: Enas idiwtikos foreas einai.

ANTWNAROS: Giati apajiwnete etsi toys idiwtikoys foreis;

SIDERHS: Giati einai epikefalhs h dikh sas, h k. Tsoyderoy.

ANTWNAROS: Toy dieqnoys tmhmatos;

SIDERHS: Toy ellhnikoy, poy plhroforei to dieqnes.

ANTWNAROS: Yparxoyn kai alloi. Den prokeitai na anoijw syzhthsh ep` aytoy. Eseis profanws qewreite oti den yparxoyn shmeia diafqoras sth xwra. Alla h qesh ths kybernhshs, h opoia exei dhlwqei epaneilhmmenws, einai diaforetikh. Kai einai apolyth proteraiothta ths kybernhshs na katapolemhqoyn h diafqora kai h diaplokh kai na apokatastaqei h diafaneia. Ayto einai aithma olwn twn politwn kai fainetai poly kaqara.

XIWTHS: Th syzhthsh thn jekinhsa dioti oi ekfraseis poy xrhsimopoiei h epistolh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs periexoyn genikeyseis. Endexomenws shkwnei poly syzhthsh gia to an orismena Mesa Enhmerwshs exoyn parekklinei ths apostolhs toys. Alla h epistolh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs den leei ayto. Leei ``ta Mesa Enhmerwshs'' syllhbdhn. Ws pros ayto exei na kanei kapoia dieykrinish shmera h ellhnikh kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kamia dieykrinish sto periexomeno ths epistolhs.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Thn idia stigmh o Prwqypoyrgos synantietai me epixeirhmaties oi opoioi emplekontai me ta Mesa. Dhladh, kanei epilogh o Prwqypoyrgos; Jexwrizei poioi einai oi diaplekomenoi kai poioi oxi h toys blepei oloys;

ANTWNAROS: Gia tis synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys epixeirhmaties exw topoqethqei epaneilhmmenws.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Den sas rwtaw gia tis synanthseis aytes. Sas milaw gia to periexomeno ths epistolhs, opws lene oi synadelfoi, poy einai poly geniko kai to synartw me tis synanthseis poy kanei o Prwqypoyrgos.

ANTWNAROS: O Prwqypoyrgos synantietai me ena eyry fasma proswpikothtwn kai politwn apo oloys toys xwroys.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Poy emplekontai me ta Mesa, kyrie Ekproswpe;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh perase enas xronos kai, apo tote poy egine kybernhsh h Nea Dhmokratia, mhpws eftase h wra gia na anoijei kai aytos o fakelos toy Xrhmatisthrioy;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme topoqethqei epaneilhmmenws gia to qema toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Opoy yparxoyn eyqynes poy mporei na apodoqoyn dia ths dikastikhs odoy, aytes qa apodoqoyn. Ekeino poy exei shmasia einai oti politika, to egklhma toy Xrhmatisthrioy den paragrafetai. Gnwrizete, omws, toys periorismoys toys opoioys epiballoyn diafores syntagmatikes ryqmiseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Politika to qema paragrafhke. Den diwketai pleon kanenas politikos.

ANTWNAROS: Ayto sto opoio anafereste, einai h poinikh paragrafh. Sas lew oti, politika, to egklhma toy Xrhmatisthrioy den paragrafetai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: To allo poy eipate gia th Dikaiosynh. H Dikaiosynh den to proxwraei ap` o,ti fainetai.

ANTWNAROS: Kanete laqos. Yparxoyn polles memonwmenes ypoqeseis, oi opoies proxwroyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exei fqasei kamia sth Boylh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas milw gia th Dikaiosynh.

POYLIDOY: Epeidh prohgoymenws milhsate gia thn peristolh twn dapanwn, tis proalles efhmerides dhmosieyan katalogoys me toys epikefalhs dioikhsewn DEKO, opoy shmeiwnontai shmantikes ayjhseis stis apolabes toys. Exete na sxoliasete kati ep` aytoy;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

SPYRAKH: O k. Molybiaths, opws anakoinwqhke apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, jekina seira epafwn me toys politikoys arxhgoys gia na toys enhmerwsei gia tis ejelijeis sth diafora me thn PGDM. Einai diateqeimenh h ellhnikh kybernhsh na apodexqei symbibasmo gia to onoma ths geitonikhs xwras poy qa perilambanei ton oro ``Makedonia'';

ANTWNAROS: O k. Molybiaths, opws anakoinwqhke pro oligoy, arxizei seira epafwn me toys politikoys arxhgoys prokeimenoy na toys enhmerwsei gia diafora qemata poy aforoyn sthn ejwterikh politikh ths xwras. Metajy aytwn perilambanetai kai to qema to opoio anaferate. Sto qema ayto isxyei h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, h opoia exei diatypwqei epaneilhmmenws: Yposthrizoyme tis prospaqeies, oi opoies ginontai sta plaisia twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, gia ejeyresh mias amoibaia apodekths lyshs sto zhthma ths onomasias ths PGDM. H kybernhsh ayth, me entatiko ryqmo, opws gnwrizete, meta thn apwleia triwn peripoy etwn aprajias apo to PASOK, diejagei aytes tis diapragmateyseis. Oso diejagontai oi diapragmateyseis den prokeitai na topoqethqw epi toy qematos.

SPYRAKH: Rwthsa an einai diateqeimenh h kybernhsh na apodexqei ena symbibasmo poy na perilambanei ton oro ``Makedonia''.

ANTWNAROS: Oso diejagontai oi diapragmateyseis den prokeitai na topoqethqw epi toy qematos.

XIWTHS: Aytoy toy eidoys oi diaboyleyseis me toys politikoys arxhgoys ti nohma exoyn; Tiqetai zhthma anaireshs kapoiwn ek twn symfwnhqentwn se parelqonta xrono, eite sto Symboylio Arxhgwn, eite metajy twn kommatwn; Kai ti epidiwkete me ayth th diakommatikh synennohsh;

ANTWNAROS: O Yfypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, k. Skandalakhs, prin apo liges meres, enhmerwse toys ekproswpoys twn kommatwn -metajy twn opoiwn kai politikoi arxhgoi- gia to qema toy Patriarxeioy. Einai dynaton gia qemata megalhs shmasias ston ejwteriko tomea na mhn enhmerwnontai ta alla koinoboyleytika kommata;

XIWTHS: Ayto rwtw, kyrie Ekproswpe. Oi synanthseis exoyn to xarakthra ths enhmerwshs kai mono h ths anazhthshs mias diakommatikhs stashs apenanti se ejelijeis poy erxontai tis epomenes hmeres;

ANTWNAROS: Kyriws ths enhmerwshs.

SARANTAKOS: Fantazomai, peite moy an to skeptomai swsta h oxi, oti an yparjei allagh sth stash ths ellhnikhs pleyras, qa yparjei neo symboylio politikwn arxhgwn ypo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias. Etsi den einai;

ANTWNAROS: An xreiastei na ginei kati tetoio, h kybernhsh qa to melethsei.

Eyxaristw poly.

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