Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-03-16

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 16 Martioy 2005

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs anaxwrei shmera gia tis Bryjelles, opoy to apogeyma qa synanthqei me ton Proedro ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs k. Mparozo. To brady qa anaxwrhsei gia to Loyjemboyrgo, opoy ayrio qa synanthqei me ton Prwqypoyrgo toy Loyjemboyrgoy kai Proedreyonta ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs k. Gioynker.

Oi syzhthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Mparozo qa peristrafoyn gyrw apo treis ajones:

Prwton, oi dhmosionomikes prooptikes gia to diasthma 2007-2013, oi opoies syndeontai amesa me to D@ K.P.S.. H diapragmateysh, opws gnwrizete, molis arxizei. Poly perilhptika sas lew mono oti h Ellada yposthrizei thn protash ths Epitrophs.

Deyteron, h legomenh ``anaqewrhsh toy Symfwnoy Staqerothtas kai Anaptyjhs''. To qema ayto qa syzhthqei thn Kyriakh stis Bryjelles, se ektakth synedriash toy Eurogroup kai toy EKOFIN. Th xwra mas ekproswpei o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Alogoskoyfhs, o opoios synodeyei ton Prwqypoyrgo stis Bryjelles, logw ths shmerinhs qematologias ths synanthshs toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Mparozo. Stoxos toy EKOFIN ths Kyriakhs einai na yparjei symfwnia, h opoia qa ypoblhqei gia telikh egkrish stoys arxhgoys kratwn kai kybernhsewn. Kai,

Triton, h strathgikh ths Lissabonas gia thn antagwnistikothta sthn Eyrwph. Qesh ths Elladas einai oti prepei na epikentrwqoyn oi prospaqeies stoys tomeis ths anaptyjhs kai ths apasxolhshs. Yparxei, epishs, h anagkh -kai h Ellada to pisteyei ayto- na ginei kalyteros eqnikos syntonismos. H Ellada, opws gnwrizete, exei proxwrhsei kai exei orisei ws eqniko syntonisth gi` ayta ta qemata to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

TSIODRAS: Sxetika me thn epistolh poy estalh sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, zhtwntas anabolh ths shmerinhs syzhthshs, efoson o nomos einai symbatos me to Syntagma kai to Koinotiko Dikaio, opws isxyrizetai h kybernhsh, poios o logos tote na zhtame apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh na anaballei mia syzhthsh sthn opoia ypotiqetai oti den yparxei kanena problhma gia mas kai ola einai kala kai exoyme dikaio.

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh ejakoloyqei na pisteyei oti o nomos einai symfwnos me to Syntagma kai symbatos me to Koinotiko Dikaio. Alla efoson h Epitroph krinei oti xreiazontai syzhthseis -to exoyme pei kai sto parelqon- emeis metexoyme stis diaboyleyseis. Gi` ayto akribws zhteitai aytos o xronos ths anabolhs, wste na syzhthqoyn ta qemata. H ellhnikh pleyra exei safh topoqethsh sto qema.

TSIODRAS: Sygnwmh, alla egine mia syzhthsh proxqes, opoy yphrxe arnhtikh eishghsh gia thn Ellada kai yphrxe h protash na stalei proeidopoihtikh epistolh.

ANTWNAROS: Poly epilektika merida twn MME ekane xrhsh arnhtikwn eishghsewn. Den gnwrizw giati den egine anafora se topoqethseis genikwn dieyqyntwn h ajiwmatoyxwn, opws gia paradeigma apo th Germania h th Gallia, oi opoioi eixan poly qetikh antimetwpish sto sygkekrimeno qema. As mh sygxeontai, loipon, oi ``myxioi poqoi'' orismenwn me thn pragmatikothta.

TSIODRAS: Kai giati den zhtoysame na syzhthqei shmera, loipon, efoson yphrxan qetikes eishghseis kai zhthsame anabolh;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh kanei tis epiloges ths kai ekrine oti hqele na zhthsei anabolh.

SARANTAKOS: Yparxei ena qema politikhs ajiopistias. Eseis o idios, edw, eixate xarakthrisei parafilologia, prin apo liges ebdomades, ta peri yparjhs deyterhs epistolhs. O k. Roysopoylos apo to idio bhma eixe pei oti den yparxei qema deyterhs epistolhs kai oti htan dyo gnwmodothseis. Xqes, o k. Paylopoylos, as moy epitrapei h ekfrash, diaceydontas kai esas kai ton k. Roysopoylo, me anakoinwsh toy eipe oti esteile kai deyterh epistolh. Yparxei telika ena qema ajiopistias ths kybernhshs, otan kai oi dyo ekproswpoi ths bgainoyn kai lene alla kai o prwtos th tajei ypoyrgos kanei alla;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na diabasete tis xqesines dhlwseis toy k. Paylopoyloy. Eimaste se apolyth sympnoia. Den yparxei kamia diafora.

SARANTAKOS: Ma, mila safws gia epistolh poy kanei anakefalaiwsh. Epeidh diabasa thn anakoinwsh toy k. Paylopoyloy, mila gia epistolh poy anakefalaiwnei tis qeseis kai malista mila gia kapoia aorista kentra k.t.l. Yparxei epistolh. To arneiste;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw tipote se osa eipa xqes.

SARANTAKOS: Shmera, sas rwtw, yphrje deyterh epistolh;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

KAKALHS: Sxetika me to prwto qema poy anaferate, symfwna me plhrofories ths ``KAQHMERINHS'' oi kyrioi Karamanlhs kai Alogoskoyfhs qa zhthsoyn politikh lysh sto problhma ths xrhmatodothshs twn ergwn apo ta kondylia toy G@ KPS kai efapaj perikoph kondyliwn. Isxyei ayth h plhroforia;

ANTWNAROS: Prokeitai gia dhmosiografikes plhrofories, tis opoies den exw kanena logo na epibebaiwsw. Opws jerete oi syzhthseis ginontai shmera to apogeyma.

KAKALHS: O k. Roysopoylos eixe diabebaiwsei toys dhmosiografoys meta th synanthsh ths trimeloys diypoyrgikhs epitrophs me ton ajiwmatoyxo ths Komision, oti den yparxoyn anapanthta erwthmata @ayth htan h frash poy eixe xrhsimopoihsei- kai oti oi alloi prepei na anhsyxoyn kai oxi h kybernhsh. Ti allaje twra kai h kybernhsh zhta aron-aron anabolh ths syzhthshs sthn Komision; Poia einai dhladh ta nea dedomena;

ANTWNAROS: Yparxoyn diadikasies oi opoies akoloyqoyntai sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. H kybernhsh akoloyqei tis diadikasies opote prokyptoyn kai opote apaiteitai.

TABOYLARH: Poio einai to politiko skeptiko ths epistolhs me thn opoia zhtame anabolh;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei gia thn epistolh tipota peran oswn eginan gnwsta xqes.

TABOYLARH: Den yparxei kati sthn epistolh;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h kybernhsh mila synexeia gia anaptyjh. Kai twra, ap` o,ti blepw, qa syzhthsei pali gi` ayto to qema kai sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Edw perase enas nomos ton Noembrio, akomh omws den exei ginei tipota. Sthn Perifereia den exoyn ftasei oyte oi egkyklioi, tipota. Giati perase aytos o nomos kai exei meinei anenergos, pente @ eji mhnes twra;

ANTWNAROS: To qema ths anaptyjhs apasxolei oles tis eyrwpaikes xwres. Den einai kati to opoio apasxolei mono thn Ellada. Den einai ena ellhniko fainomeno. Opws gnwrizete, h anaptyjh se polles eyrwpaikes xwres, ta teleytaia xronia, gia diaforoys logoys, shmeiwse mia kamch. Yphrxan oikonomika problhmata. Oloi oi Eyrwpaioi hgetes synantwntai akribws gi` ayto to logo syxna, prokeimenoy na syzhthsoyn ekeinh th meqodologia, tis idees, toys tropoys an qelete, poy prepei na akoloyqhsoyn, wste na dwsoyn mia nea wqhsh sthn oikonomia. H Ellada den apotelei ena apomonwmeno nhsi, apotelei meros toy eyrwpaikoy gignesqai. Elhfqh h prwtoboylia, thn opoia eseis prohgoymenws anaferate. Kai bebaiws ola ta epakoloyqa, oi egkyklioi kai ta synafh epontai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pote;

ANTWNAROS: Gia tis leptomereies poy aforoyn se ola ayta ta qemata, parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati kai o Prwqypoyrgos kai o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias eipan oti biazontai gia anaptyjh, alla h anaptyjh exei meinei se kapoio syrtari.

ANTWNAROS: H anaptyjh -qa moy epitrecete na sas pw- den einai kati to opoio, me ena magiko rabdi, prokaleitai kai ginetai mesa se 3 - 4 mhnes. O nomos, opws swsta eipate, chfisthke apo th Boylh prin apo ligoys mhnes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pente mhnes.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kanena logo na mh symfwnhsw, alla, para tayta, xreiazetai mia diadikasia gia thn efarmogh toy. Kai ayth h diadikasia threitai.

XONDROS: Se ti mas ejyphretei h anabolh ths syzhthshs toy qematos gia to basiko metoxo; Giati, gia na zhtame anabolh, kapoia skopimothta exoyme, se kati mas ejyphretei.

ANTWNAROS: Na ejhghsoyme kati, to opoio to PASOK gia tria oloklhra xronia den ekane, para to gegonos oti eixe synexeis oxlhseis: Ayth h ryqmish problepetai apo to ellhniko Syntagma. Emeis ws kratos -opws kaqe kratos ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs- exoyme ypoxrewsh na yperaspizomaste to Syntagma mas, exoyme ypoxrewsh na to kanoyme synexeia, xwris diakoph kai me peistika epixeirhmata. To Syntagma ayto chfisthke apo ta dyo megalytera kommata ths Boylhs prin apo liga xronia. H basikh enstash, h basikh oxlhsh, h basikh epifylajh, loipon, strefetai enantion toy Syntagmatos. Kai prepei na yperaspistoyme to Syntagma mas apotelesmatika kai peistika.

TSIODRAS: Den egkaloymaste gia to Syntagma sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Egkaloymaste gia to nomo kai efoson gnwrizame oti yparxei asymbatothta toy Syntagmatos me thn koinotikh nomoqesia, eprepe na laboyme tis pronoies mas kai ta metra mas, wste o nomos na mhn phgainei tria bhmata perissotero.

ANTWNAROS: Den eiste kala plhroforhmenos. Oi basikes oxlhseis kai enstaseis strefontai kata toy Syntagmatos. Isxyei ayto poy eipa. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

TSIODRAS: Egkaloymaste, dhladh, gia to Syntagma sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh; Jeroyme to ti symbainei me to Syntagma. Chfizoyme ena nomo, o opoios dhmioyrgei akomh perissotera problhmata apo o,ti h sygkekrimenh diatajh toy Syntagmatos;

ANTWNAROS: Einai h dikh sas anagnwsh, h opoia den antapokrinetai sth dikh mas anagnwsh.

TABOYLARH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to qema den einai an o nomos aresei h den aresei stoys Eyrwpaioys. Qa mporoyse kai na mhn aresei stoys Eyrwpaioys h na mhn einai symbatos me to koinotiko dikaio. To qema einai, h kybernhsh epimenei oti h xwra exei anagkh aytoy toy nomoy;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai perissotero apo safes.

TABOYLARH: Poy shmainei oti den prepei na perimenoyme allages, alla prepei na perimenoyme mia maxh stis Bryjelles;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka. Den exw na prosqesw tipote parapanw.

SIDERHS: Se ena allo qema, mia parathrhsh kai mia erwthsh. H parathrhsh einai oti prin apo kapoia xronia enas ypoyrgos ths Neas Dhmokratias ekane ena nomo kai dhlwse yperhfanos oti katarghse thn palh twn tajewn. Aytos den to katafere, alla to kataferate eseis. Mia zwh o k. Kyriakopoylos sas kathgorei kai epishs xqes eidame koinh synenteyjh ths Omospondias twn ypallhlwn poy ergazontai sta soyper market kai twn idiokthtwn twn soyper market gia to wrario. To erwthma einai: Qa epimeinete meta apo ayth thn kaqolikh katakraygh, giati peri katakrayghs prokeitai;

ANTWNAROS: Prin apo mia ebdomada kai mia hmera, o Prwqypoyrgos topoqethqhke me apolyth safhneia sto qema toy wrarioy. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

LEONTITSH: Eipate oti oi basikes oxlhseis ginontai gia to ellhniko Syntagma. Dhladh, exei teqei qema amfisbhthshs toy ellhnikoy Syntagmatos, me to koinotiko dikaio; Qa yparjoyn politikes diapragmateyseis stis Bryjelles;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo. O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa.

KAKALHS: Pws h kybernhsh yperaspizetai to ellhniko Syntagma, apo th stigmh poy zhtaei diarkws anabolh ths syzhthshs, an ayto einai to qema, opws lete; An exete mia kaqarh qesh yperaspishs toy ellhnikoy Syntagmatos, eprepe na zhtate na syzhthqei to qema kai oxi na anablhqei. Ayto san mia aporia. Apo thn allh, mhpws zhtate anabolh gia na prosarmostei to ellhniko Syntagma sto koinotiko dikaio;

ANTWNAROS: Katalhgete se symperasmata poy einai poly biastika kai ayqaireta. Qa hqela, omws, na sas pw to ejhs, xwris na qelw na akoystei ``daskalistika'': Oi diadikasies sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh den exoyn th morfh telesigrafwn, aysthrwn kai ategktwn thrhsewn xronodiagrammatwn. Einai mia diarkhs zymwsh. Sth zymwsh ayth h Ellada, se ola ta epipeda kai oxi mono sto sygkekrimeno qema -anaferomai genika- metexei energa kai epoikodomhtika. Ayto allwste symbainei kai twra poy phgainei o Prwqypoyrgos stis Bryjelles kai qa syzhthsei alla qemata, ta opoia einai bebaiws ellhnikoy endiaferontos, alla einai kai eyrwpaikoy endiaferontos. Dioti ta qemata ayta ellhnikoy endiaferontos den tiqentai mono gia thn Ellada, tiqentai gia tis 25 krath-melh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Elega, loipon, oti metexei energa, etsi wste mesa apo th zymwsh kai ta ellhnika symferonta na ejyphretoyntai kai malista na ejyphretoyntai apotelesmatika se ola ta epipeda, alla kai h idea ths eyrwpaikhs oloklhrwshs na proxwraei synexws olo kai perissotero. Ayto einai to zhtoymeno.

SARANTAKOS: Yparxei qema politikwn eyqynwn se kapoioys apo toys syntaktes toy nomoy poy exoyn ferei th xwra ayth th stigmh na zhtaei anabolh,, na phgainoyn treis ypoyrgoi na blepoyn enan koinotiko ypallhlo, na phgainoyn alloi ypoyrgoi na blepoyn ton koinotiko Epitropo; Yparxei qema politikwn eyqynwn h ekeinwn poy diabebaiwnan ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn kybernhsh oti den qa yparjei qema, den qa yparjei problhma me to sygkekrimeno nomo;

ANTWNAROS: Aytes einai ektimhseis, eysebeis poqoi, qa elega, ekeinwn poy tis ekfrazoyn, tis diatypwnoyn kai tis diatympanizoyn.

TSIODRAS: An mesa apo th diadikasia ths anabolhs isxysei telika h protash poy kanoyn oi genikoi dieyqyntes kai h apoch poy yparxei ayth th stigmh sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh oti o nomos den einai symbatos se kapoia shmeia me to koinotiko dikaio, qa yparjei tropopoihsh apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw tipote. Allwste, ayto to opoio lete einai poly genikologo: ``apoch twn genikwn dieyqyntwn''. Exoyn ekfrastei diafores apoceis. Oi telikes apofaseis den lambanontai sto epipedo twn genikwn dieyqyntwn sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

TSIODRAS: Eimaste anoixtoi pantws se allages, apo o,ti katalaba apo thn apanthsh sas.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa egw kati tetoio. Antiqetws.

Sas eyxaristw.

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