Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-03-01

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Aqhna, 1 Martioy 2005

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete kai kalo mhna.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

O Prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs qa dexqei, ayrio Tetarth, stis 9 to prwi, ton presbh ths Kinas kai stis 9.30, ton presbh ths Toyrkias. Amesws meta, sto plaisio ths epikoinwnias poy exei me toys boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias, qa synanthqei me toys kyrioys Papaqemelh, Agorasto, Bagiwna, Kollia, Plakiwtakh kai Katsigiannh.

Ayrio, stis 14.00, o Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei gia to Zagkremp, opoy stis 15.00 qa synanthqei me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Kroatias k. Sananter. Amesws meta qa anaxwrhsei gia to Beligradi, opoy stis 18.30 qa synanthqei me ton Proedro ths Serbias k. Mporis Tantits kai stis 19.30 me ton Prwqypoyrgo toy Mayroboynioy k. Milo Tzoykanobits. O Proedros toy Mayroboynioy k. Filip Boygianobits qa apoysiazei se episkech sta Skopia.

Thn Pempth, 3 Martioy, stis 9 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei me to Serbo omologo toy k. Kostoynitsa. Stis 10 qa pragmatopoihsei episkech abrofrosynhs ston Proedro ths Serbias-Mayroboynioy, o opoios askei kaqhkonta Prwqypoyrgoy sto Mikro Ypoyrgiko Symboylio ths Serbias-Mayroboynioy. Gyrw stis 12 to meshmeri, o Prwqypoyrgos qa ftasei sthn Pristina. Amesws meta qa episkefqei to stratopedo ths ELDYKO (Ellhnikh Dynamh Kossoboy), ``Rhgas Feraios'', opoy qa synanthqei me toys Ellhnes stratiwtes, ajiwmatikoys kai ypajiwmatikoys poy briskontai ekei. Stis 15.00, qa epistrecei sthn Pristina kai qa exei synanthseis me oloys toys paragontes sto Kossobo kai sygkekrimena me ton eidiko apestalmeno toy Genikoy Grammatea toy OHE k. Petersen, ton Proedro Roygkoba paroysia toy k. Xarantinai, kaqws kai me to synolo ths Serbokossobarikhs hgesias. O Prwqypoyrgos anamenetai na anaxwrhsei apo thn Pristina gyrw stis 18.30, topikh wra, epistrefontas sthn Aqhna.

Kata th shmerinh synedriash toy KYSEA syzhthqhke h eqnikh politikh amynas. Kaqe xwra kai fysika kai h Ellada ofeilei na lambanei apotelesmatika metra gia thn prostasia ths kai exei thn ypoxrewsh na frontizei th qwrakish ths. H eqnikh politikh amynas diepetai apo diaxronikh synexeia kai kineitai gyrw apo toys ejhs treis ajones:

Sto Borra lambanontai ola ta apaitoymena metra gia thn apotelesmatikh antimetwpish asymmetrwn apeilwn, opws einai h tromokratia, h diakinhsh oplwn, to dieqnes egklhma kai h astaqeia.

Yparxei mia beltiwsh twn sxesewn mas me thn Toyrkia, thn opoia sthrizoyme sthn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths. Wstoso, h Toyrkia den exei metabalei thn politikh amfisbhthshs kyriarxikwn dikaiwmatwn ths xwras mas. Kata synepeia, exoyme thn ypoxrewsh na diathroyme mia eparkh, apotreptikh, ajiopisth dynamh.

H entajh ths Kyproy sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh dhmioyrgei nea dedomena sto Kypriako kai stis prospaqeies gia ejeyresh staqerhs kai biwsimhs lyshs gia thn epanenwsh ths nhsoy sto plaisio toy OHE. Mexris otoy ejomalynqei h katastash, h Kypriakh Dhmokratia qa exei thn ameristh kai polyepipedh sthrijh ths Elladas, h opoia fysika qa symmetexei energa sta qemata asfaleias ths Kyproy.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Poia einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia to endiameso kaqestws toy Kossyfopedioy;

ANTWNAROS: Ekane enhmerwsh gia to qema, pro oligoy, o k. Koymoytsakos.

SPYRAKH: Ekane enhmerwsh alla se ayto to erwthma den apanthse.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa eipe o k. Koymoytsakos, pro oligoy.

SEGIZOBA: Poia qemata qa syzhthqoyn sto tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: Gia to periexomeno kai thn politikh diastash toy tajidioy, sas enhmerwse prin apo ligo o k. Koymoytsakos.

SEGIZOBA: O k. Koymoytsakos mas parepemce se sas epeidh o Prwqypoyrgos exei ena programma kai den qelei na kanei dhlwseis o k. Koymoytsakos s` ayto to qema.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

SIDERHS: Mhpws h kybernhsh exei enan apoprosanatolismo se sxesh me toys oikonomikoys deiktes; Prin tis ekloges yposxotan anaptyjh 5%. Twra ayto poy odeyei pros to 5% einai o plhqwrismos. Symfwna me thn ekqesh ths Eurostat exoyme 4,2% ektinajh. Tis ptaiei;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh akoloyqei staqerh oikonomikh politikh. Oi ajones ayths ths politikhs einai gnwstoi. Einai prwta ap` ola h apokatastash ths dhmosionomikhs isorropias poy eixe diataraxqei me poly entono tropo ta teleytaia xronia. Einai epishs h apokatastash ths ajiopistias sthn ellhnikh oikonomia. Kai oxi mono sta matia twn ellhnwn politwn kai twn eyrwpaiwn etairwn ths xwras mas, alla kai sta matia twn ependytwn, Ellhnwn kai jenwn, poy endiaferontai na topoqethsoyn ta xrhmata toys sth xwra mas. Etsi qa epiteyxqei o tritos kai basikos stoxos. H ejasfalish enos poly kaloy biotikoy epipedoy gia oloys toys ellhnes. Oi stoxoi aytoi qa epiteyxqoyn.

PAPAGIANNHS: Xwris na mas peite tipota shmera eidame ston Typo thn plhroforia oti alla 300 onomata dhmosiografwn, poy fantazomai einai melh ths ESHEA doqhkan xqes apo ton Ypoyrgo Epikrateias k. Roysopoylo sta armodia organa ths ESHEA. Den mas dieykrinisate oyte poioi foreis sas esteilan ayta ta onomata oyte epishs gia poio logo eixate pei sto parelqon oti den qa dwsete ta onomata alla qa ta symperilabete stis listes toy 2004.

ANTWNAROS: O k. Roysopoylos eixe analabei th desmeysh, gia to etos 2003, na steilei sthn ESHEA thn epikairopoihmenh katastash twn dhmosiografwn poy apasxoloyntai sto dhmosio kai ton eyrytero dhmosio tomea. Zhthqhke apo aytoys toys Organismoys kai foreis toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea na aposteiloyn tis katastaseis. Etsi proekycan kai alla onomata. Symplhrwqhke h lista kai gi` ayto milw gia mia epikairopoihmenh lista. H lista ayth estalh xqes, opws eixe symfwnhqei, sthn ESHEA h opoia eixe zhthsei, opws qymaste, apo thn arxh tis katastaseis me toys dhmosiografoys poy apasxoloyntai sto dhmosio kai eyrytero dhmosio tomea. Epanalambanw: Prokeitai gia th lista me toys dhmosiografoys poy apasxolhqhkan sto dhmosio kai eyrytero dhmosio tomea kata to etos 2003. Oi katastaseis oswn apasxolhqhkan kata to 2004 qa sygkentrwqoyn mexri thn 31h Martioy 2005. Isxyei h desmeysh ths kybernhshs oti oi katastaseis aytes qa einai diaqesimes apo tis 5 Aprilioy, wste na yparjei xronos gia mia mhxanografikh epejergasia.

IWANNOY: Epeidh ayth th stigmh o k. Maqioydakhs einai sth Boylh sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias, qa hqela na metaferw kai na sas rwthsw dyo pragmata. O k. Maqioydakhs eipe oti sto diabibastiko toy xqesinoy katalogoy o k. Roysopoylos grafei oti einai o teleytaios kai teleiwtikos katalogos. Xarakthrise ayton ton katalogo elliph. Eipe oti leipoyn ta stoixeia toy 2004, eseis mas eipate oti profanws qa dwsete kai neo katalogo.

ANTWNAROS: Egw anaferqhka prohgoymenws stoys dhmosiografoys poy apasxolhqhkan kata to etos 2004.

IWANNOY: O k. Roysopoylos sto diabibastiko anefere oti einai teleiwtikos o xqesinos katalogos.

ANTWNAROS: Oson afora sto 2003.

IWANNOY: O k. Maqioydakhs ekfrazei to parapono oti den yparxoyn mesa symboyloi Ypoyrgwn, polles DEKO kai polles trapezes. Qa hqela prwton ean gia to 2003 qa eprepe na zhthsete kai ayta ta stoixeia kai gia symboyloys Ypoyrgwn kai an qa ginei ayto gia to 2004. Epishs o k. Maqioydakhs eipe kati poly sobaro gia ton prwto katalogo oti o k. Roysopoylos sthn prwth paragrafo oysiastika eneixe mia apeilh otan elege na mh doqei aytos o katalogos sth dhmosiothta. Oysiastika eipe oti ayto htan mia apeilh gia mas ki ena kampanaki gia thn arxh prostasias proswpikwn dedomenwn.

ANTWNAROS: Den protiqemai na sxoliasw tis dhlwseis toy k. Maqioydakh. Ekeino to opoio qelw na sas pw, giati exei ginei megalh syzhthsh gi` aytes tis katastaseis, einai oti h kybernhsh exei analabei desmeysh - h opoia allwste prokyptei kai apo to sygkekrimeno Proedriko Diatagma toy `97 - na frontisei wste oi katastaseis aytes na einai oso to dynaton pio plhreis. Exei apeyqynqei kat` epanalhch se oloys toys foreis poy qewrei oti entassontai ston eyrytero dhmosio tomea. Oi foreis aytoi sth megalh toys pleiochfia apanthsan. Orismenoi epifylaxqhkan na apanthsoyn, epikaloymenoi diafores nomikes ryqmiseis oi opoies, kata thn ektimhsh toys, toys ejairoyn apo thn ypoxrewsh na ypobaloyn tetoies katastaseis. Ayto, opws jerete, mporei na einai antikeimeno mias nomikhs syzhthshs. Den einai kati poy mporei na lysei h kybernhsh apo th mia mera sthn allh. H kybernhsh exei thn ypoxrewsh - kai s` ayth thn ypoxrewsh antapokrinetai - na epimenei oti qelei na exei ola ta onomata twn dhmosiografwn poy ergazonati sto dhmosio kai se oloys toys tomeis toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea. Pros ayth thn kateyqynsh katateinei h prospaqeia poy kataballei h kybernhsh.

PAPAGIANNHS: Me ton tropo ayto den prostateyete toys synadelfoys sas. Dioti an h ESHEA den dhmosiopoihsei telika ta stoixeia qa mporoysame tote na skeftoyme oti eseis qa eprepe na perimenete kai na dwsete oloklhrh th lista twn synadelfwn.

ANTWNAROS: H qesh ths kybernhshs einai safhs: Eimaste kata ths dhmosiopoihshs ths listas. Ayto ejakoloyqei na isxyei.

KAKALHS: Na epanelqw sto tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy sta Balkania. Mexri prosfata, o Prwqypoyrgos htan kata ths allaghs twn synorwn sta Balkania kai genikotera. Teleytaia, den to epanalambanei. Ant` aytoy leei oti den prepei na epistrecoyme sthn prin to 1999 katastash, ayto eipe toylaxiston stis Bryjelles. Me bash ayto, h kybernhsh tassetai yper ths dhmioyrgias enos anejarthtoy kratoys sto Kossyfopedio kai yper ths dhmioyrgias jexwristwn kratwn se Serbia kai Mayroboynio;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh tassetai yper ths efarmoghs twn apofasewn, oi opoies desmeyoyn th dieqnh koinothta.

KAKALHS: Ti shmainei ayto; Mporeite na ginete pio sygkekrimenos;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. H dieqnhs koinothta exei topoqethqei epi toy qematos.

TSIODRAS: Sxetika me tis plhrofories oti sta Ierosolyma ginetai syzhthsh, sto kratos toy Israhl, gia thn afh toy Ieroy Fwtos apo to Patriarxeio twn Ierosolymwn kai apo thn Armenikh Ekklhsia, thn kybernhsh thn apasxolei ayto to qema, exoyn ginei kapoies energeies;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kamia plhroforhsh gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Eimai bebaios oti oi paradoseis poy exoyn thrhqei gia polla xronia, qa ejakoloyqhsoyn na throyntai.

SIDERHS: Se sxesh me to shmerino KYSEA: Eipate oti apo to borra exoyme asymmetres apeiles. Ayto shmainei oti qa ylopoihqoyn ta sxedia toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy @den qa sas stenoxwrhsw na ton pw akatonomasto, par` oti, opws jerete, h ESHEA janaebgale xqes anakoinwsh kai leei oti isxyei to empargko poy toy exei epibalei- gia dhmioyrgia stratopedwn sth Boreia Ellada h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxoyn tetoia sxedia toy Ypoyrgoy.

SIDERHS: Yphrxan, kyrie Ekproswpe.

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxoyn. Ekeino to opoio egine, einai oti metaferqhkan se orismenes topoqesies ths Boreias Elladas orismena stratopeda ekpaideyshs neosyllektwn. Sas epanalambanw oti h eqnikh amyntikh politikh xarakthrizetai apo synepeia kai staqerothta. Sas ejeqesa toys treis ajones panw stoys opoioys kineitai.

KAKALHS: Stoys treis ajones poy anaferate, an den kanw laqos ajiologika anaferate prwto ton apo borra kindyno.

ANTWNAROS: Kat` arxas den eipa oti yparxei apo borra kindynos. Antiqetws, milhsa gia asymmetres apeiles. Milhsa gia thn antimetwpish asymmetrwn apeilwn.

KAKALHS: Pros to borra, omws.

ANTWNAROS: Oi asymmetres apeiles einai kati to opoio apasxolei oles tis xwres ayth th stigmh. Kai einai kati sto opoio kaqe xwra prepei na prosarmozei thn eqnikh politikh amynas thn opoia exei. Einai ena fainomeno poy -logw toy xarakthros toy- emfanisthke ta teleytaia xronia.

KAKALHS: Nai, alla oi asymmetres apeiles pws entopizontai sto borra; Ayto einai to erwthma moy.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo s` ayto to qema.

MPOTSARAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h kybernhsh protiqetai na kataqesei tropologia me thn opoia na ejairoyntai apo ton isologismo toy ``AQHNA 2004'' posa pollwn ekatommyriwn poy doqhkan ws epixorhghsh, prokeimenoy telika o isologismos na mhn einai elleimmatikos;

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete na enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw. Einai poly eidiko qema.

IWANNOY: O k. Benizelos ekane to prwi sth Boylh, sthn Epitroph Diafaneias, mia protash -kai qelw na moy peite ean h kybernhsh symfwnei me ayto- na erqoyn sth Boylh kai na enhmerwsoyn, olh h Iera Synodos kai o Arxiepiskopos, kaqws kai oi pente dikastikes Enwseis. Pera apo to oti einai qema ths Boylhs na apofasisei, qa hqela na moy peite ws Ekproswpos ths kybernhshs ean ayto, na erqei sysswmh h ierarxia sth Boylh, to qewreite qemito.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kanena sxolio.

KAKALHS: H kybernhsh sxediazei na poylhsei to 15% twn metoxwn toy OTE se strathgiko ependyth kai na ekxwrhsei taytoxrona kai to manatzment;

ANTWNAROS: Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw.

KAKALHS: Den to apokleiete, wstoso.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw tetoies plhrofories.

Sas eyxaristw.

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