Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-01-31

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Aqhna, 31 Ianoyarioy 2005

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Ayrio, stis 11 to prwi, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qemata poy aptontai toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs.

Thn Tetarth (2/02), stis 10.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa egkainiasei th Monada Egkaymatwn sto Qriasio Nosokomeio.

Thn Pempth (3/02), stis 10.30, qa exei synergasia me thn politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Makedonias-Qrakhs, sto plaisio twn synergasiwn toy me tis politikes hgesies twn ypoyrgeiwn.

Thn Paraskeyh (4/02), stis 9.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei, sto Megaro Majimoy, me thn Ypoyrgo Amynas ths Gallias. Stis 13.00, qa exei synergasia me thn politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas. Stis 20.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa einai o kyrios omilhths sto deipno gia to kleisimo ths Eyrwmesogeiakhs Syndiaskechs.

Pro oligoy, estalhsan sthn Enwsh Syntaktwn Hmerhsiwn Efhmeridwn Aqhnwn (ESHEA), katopin aithmatos toy Proedroy ths, oi katastaseis twn dhmosiografwn poy exei sygkentrwsei, opws ek toy Proedrikoy Diatagmatos 60/1997 ypoxreoytai, h Grammateia Epikoinwnias kai Enhmerwshs (prwhn Ypoyrgeio Typoy). Sthn epistolh poy apesteila ston Proedro ths ESHEA anaferontai ta ejhs:

``Kyrie Proedre, opws kai dhmosiws exw dhlwsei: a) qewrw th dhmosiopoihsh twn onomatwn ws antibainoysa sta peri prostasias proswpikwn dedomenwn kai gi` ayto parakalw na thrhqei o nomos b) ews tis 31/3/05 qa sygkentrwqoyn -pali kata ta problepomena apo to proanaferqen Proedriko Diatagma- oi katastaseis toy 2004, tis opoies kai qa aposteilw stis 5/4/05 sto Swmateio. Eimai bebaios oti sto plaisio ths aytorryqmishs, h ESHEA qa prwtagwnisthsei, wste na pacoyn oi syllhbdhn kathgories epi dikaiwn kai adikwn. Sthn prospaqeia sas ayth qa me breite arwgo''.

Sto yliko poy apestalh sthn ESHEA, symperilambanontai stoixeia apo 18 ypoyrgeia kai 122 foreis. Prokeitai dhladh gia tis apanthseis twn forewn kai twn ypoyrgeiwn gia to ean apasxolhsan kai poioys dhmosiografoys. Shmeiwnw oti meta thn ekdosh toy Proedrikoy Diatagmatos toy 1997, epi ypoyrgias toy kyrioy Reppa, mia seira nomoqetikwn ryqmisewn, gia alla qemata, eixan periorisei thn ennoia toy dhmosioy kai toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea. Etsi eixame epixeirhseis toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea poy epi xronia den estelnan tis katastaseis aytes. Anaferw endeiktika, th DEH, ton OTE, to Xrhmatisthrio Ajiwn Aqhnwn, thn Epitroph Kefalaiagoras, ta ELTA, to Attiko Metro, thn Agrotikh Trapeza kai polloys alloys. Me entolh moy pros thn armodia Dieyqynsh, sto ejhs, pagiws, ypoxreoyntai oi foreis aytoi -osoi dhladh perilambanontai sthn ennoia toy dhmosioy tomea kai toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea kai osoi sto metajy den exoyn ginei anwnymes idiwtikes epixeirhseis kaq` oloklhrian- na enhmerwnoyn kaqe xrono, opws proeblepe to Proedriko Diatagma Reppa, th Grammateia Epikoinwnias. Isxyei sto akeraio h desmeysh poy anelaba thn perasmenh Pempth, sto Zappeio: Ayth h kybernhsh qa stelnei kaqe xrono, ws tis 5 Aprilioy, ta stoixeia se opoies apo tis dhmosiografikes Enwseis to zhthsoyn, opws dikaioytai basei toy proanaferqentos Proedrikoy Diatagmatos.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epeidh apo o,ti fainetai den yparxei gia toys dhmosiografoys to proswpiko dedomeno kai dhmosieythkan ta onomata, mhpws qa prepei na dwsete kai ayta ta onomata poy exoyn parei apo thn ERT paragwges, exoyn kanei ekpompes, exoyn agorasei diafora ypoyrgeia biblia apo dhmosiografoys, ekatontadwn ekatommyriwn, mhpws prepei na dwsete kai ayta ta onomata, na jerei o ellhnikos laos gia poioys prokeitai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws exw dhlwsei polles fores, eimai enantion ths dhmosiopoihshs twn onomatwn kai exw ejhghsei eparkws to logo. Eida ki egw th dhmosieysh onomatwn, ta opoia edoqhsan ws apanthsh se erwthsh, prin apo dyo xronia, toy boyleyth k. Spyrioynh, apo thn tote politikh hgesia. Exw desmeyqei oti qa staloyn stis Enwseis Syntaktwn, ola ta onomata twn dhmosiografwn, oi opoioi synergasthkan h ergasthkan, opws problepei to Proedriko Diatagma. Ofeilw na pw oti eixe dwsei aysthres proypoqeseis ayto to Proedriko Diatagma, sthn Enwsh Syntaktwn, efoson zhthqhkan. Metajy aytwn, perilambanontai sigoyra kai paragwges poy exoyn ginei sthn kratikh Thleorash. Eimai bebaios oti symperilambanontai kai oi opoies synergasies eginan, me thn idiothta toy dhmosiografoy, me opoiodhpote forea toy dhmosioy h toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea.

SIDERHS: Exoyme systaseis apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, apo ton OASA gia to Asfalistiko. O k. Panagiwtopoylos eipe oti qa prepei na sygkrothqei ``epitroph sofwn''. H kybernhsh epimenei oti den anoigei to Asfalistiko;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh exei ginei dekths twn aithmatwn twn koinwnikwn forewn na syzhthqoyn epimeroys zhthmata, ena apo ta opoia -kai to shmantikotero ayth th stigmh poy syzhteitai- einai to zhthma toy Asfalistikoy twn Trapezwn. Qesh ths kybernhshs einai -opws thn epanelabe thn perasmenh ebdomada edw o k. Antwnaros- oti oi koinwnikoi foreis mporoyn na syzhtoyn kai na proteinoyn sthn kybernhsh tis apoceis stis opoies qa katalhjoyn. Exw pei kata kairoys oti qemata, opws paradeigmatos xarh h ayjhsh twn oriwn hlikias, to exw tonisei pleistakis, den antimetwpizontai apo thn kybernhsh.

SIDERHS: Me dedomeno oti ta tameia kaqeydoyn, exei alloiwqei dramatika h analogia ergazomenwn-syntajioyxwn. Ayjanei o mesos oros zwhs. Jerete oti sta epomena xronia qa teqei epi taphtos kai me ekrhktiko tropo ayto to qema. Oso pio nwris, toso kalytera. Giati h kybernhsh ``krybetai pisw apo to daktylo ths'' kai eite me th ``salamopoihsh'' twn epimeroys synomiliwn, den pairnei thn prwtoboylia me parrhsia na qesei to qema sthn ellhnikh koinwnia, opws kanoyn alles kybernhseis, boreioeyrwpaikes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw oti h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias exei topoqetei safws gia to asfalistiko systhma kai proeklogika kai meteklogika. Exei ginei megalh syzhthsh, opws qymaste, kai epi PASOK, otan egine apopeira, h opoia katelhje opoy katelhje. Oi kybernhseis ths Neas Dhmokratias diakrinontai gia thn parrhsia toys. Allwste, sas qymizw ayto poy exw janapei sthn aiqoysa ayth, oti oi Bretanoi analogistes, oi opoioi eklhqhsan apo ton tote ypoyrgo Ergasias k. Giannitsh, sthn ekqesh poy kateqesan, anaferan rhtws oti ean den eixan ginei oi nomoi twn kybernhsewn ths Neas Dhmokratias ths periodoy 1990-1992, tote to Asfalistiko qa eixe polla kai sobara problhmata. Me ekeines tis metarryqmiseis, to Asfalistiko systhma phre mia poly megalh paratash zwhs.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ti nohma exei na syzhtoyn oi koinwnikoi etairoi kai na ypoballoyn protaseis; Kapoia stigmh den qa prepei kai h kybernhsh @kai qa hqela na mas peite poia einai ayth h stigmh- na parembei kai endexomenws na yioqethsei kapoies apo tis protaseis, gia na tis kanei ryqmiseis; Den nomoqetoyn oi koinwnikoi etairoi, opws jerete.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, alla apotelei mia apodeijh toy tropoy me ton opoio ayth h kybernhsh syzhtei me toys koinwnikoys foreis. Otan kriqhke apo toys idioys oti yparxei ena qema sto opoio qa prepei na arxisei na anazhteitai kapoia lysh -efoson dhmioyrghqhke hdh problhma- h dikh mas h kateyqynsh htan qetikh. Syzhtoyn oi koinwnikoi foreis kai oi opoies protaseis toys qa apotelesoyn sth synexeia antikeimeno syzhthshs metajy twn koinwnikwn forewn kai ths kybernhshs.

PAPADOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh yioqetei thn protash Panagiwtopoyloy gia th systash ``Epitrophs Sofwn'', wste na lyqoyn kapoia epimeroys zhthmata;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opoiadhpote protash poy qa odhghsei sthn kateyqynsh poy proanefera, qa ginei apodekth. Den exw na pw tipote perissotero gia to asfalistiko. To qema exei ejantlhqei toylaxiston apo th dikh moy pleyra.

ALIFEROPOYLOS: Pws antimetwpizei h kybernhsh to gegonos oti para polla kybernhtika stelexh kai boyleytes briskontai konta stoys agrotes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh ayth brisketai konta stoys agrotes. To komma ths Neas Dhmokratias htan konta stoys agrotes. H kybernhsh me polles apo tis prwtoboylies ths, alla kai tis apofaseis poy exei labei olo ayto to diasthma, einai konta stoys agrotes -kai to exei apodeijei kai se alla proionta, oxi mono sto bambaki- eite me tis maxes poy edwse stis Bryjelles to perasmeno kalokairi gia tis epidothseis, eite me thn plhrwmh pollwn kaqysterhmenwn ypoxrewsewn ths Politeias apo thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh. Etsi loipon to na einai kaneis konta stoys agrotes einai mono qetiko.

KAKALHS: An h kybernhsh den anoigei to asfalistiko, opws lete, giati o Ypoyrgos Ergasias eqese ayth thn protash gia th dhmioyrgia Epitrophs Texnokratwn kai giati diarkws kybernhtika stelexh me dhlwseis toys synthroyn to qema; Poios einai o stoxos dhladh ayths ths@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa. Den exw na pw tipota perissotero.

PAPAGIANNHS: Apo th dhmoskophsh poy dhmosieyse xqes h ``KYRIAKATIKH ELEYQEROTYPIA'' yparxoyn diafora poiotika xarakthristika. Ayto omws poy, kata th gnwmh moy, einai to pio shmantiko, einai oti to 48% twn erwthqentwn yposthrizoyn oti h oikonomikh sas politikh, h oikonomikh politikh ths kybernhshs kineitai se laqos kateyqynsh. Den sas problhmatizei ayto mesa stoys oktw prwtoys mhnes ths neas diakybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, mia fora sta pente xronia poy briskomai sthn politikh, ekana ejairesh na anaferqw se qemata dhmoskophsewn, me aformh proklhsh poy yphrxe apo thn antipoliteysh. Den qa to epanalabw h en pash periptwsei den qa to epanalabw syntoma. Ekeino poy mporw na pw einai oti h oikonomikh mas politikh exei tyxei ths egkrisews kai toy ECOFIN kai ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Einai mia politikh hpias prosarmoghs gia thn epilysh xroniws sysswreymenwn problhmatwn, ta opoia anedeixqhsan peritrana me thn apografh.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, giati kaqysterei h anakoinwsh ths eisodhmatikhs politikhs ths kybernhshs; Den jerw an mporeite na mas peite pote qa anakoinwqei kai an oi anakoinwseis aytes qa ginoyn apo ton Prwqypoyrgo h ton Ypoyrgo Oikonomias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kaqe pragma ston kairo toy. Mh biazeste.

SPYRAKH: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean apasxolei thn kybernhsh o qorybos poy dhmioyrgeitai gyrw apo thn emplokh ierwmenwn me paradikastika kyklwmata poy, me bash diafores apokalyceis ekpompwn, mporei na ftanei akomh na spilwnei @einai pros diereynhsh- thn koryfh ths ierarxias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Thn ypoqesh ayth parakoloyqei olos o ellhnikos laos. Einai mia ypoqesh gia thn opoia syzhthse thn perasmenh Paraskeyh o Prwqypoyrgos me ton armodio Ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs. Prin apo ligo, o Prwqypoyrgos ekane sxetikh dhlwsh. Ayth thn wra, o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs probainei se anakoinwseis me sygkekrimena metra yper ths prostasias toy kyroys ths Dikaiosynhs.

SARANTAKOS: Pws antimetwpizei h kybernhsh to gegonos oti 11 mhnes meta tis ekloges koryfaia stelexh ths, alla kai anwtatoi paragontes toy aqlhtismoy, oi opoioi malista ejeleghsan prin apo elaxistes ebdomades, dhlwnoyn etoimoi na qesoyn ypochfiothta kai na diekdikhsoyn to ajiwma toy dhmarxoy ths Aqhnas, para to gegonos oti eimaste akoma makria apo thn hmera ths ekloghs. Qewreite qemites aytes tis filodojies kai qemito to gegonos oti ekfrazontai 11 mhnes meta tis ekloges;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi filodojies einai proswpiko zhthma toy kaqenos. Einai poly nwris, pantws, na syzhthsoyme gia tis dhmotikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges.

SIDERHS: Eipate oti h kybernhsh einai konta stoys agrotes kai anaferate mia seira metrwn. Oi agrotes to jeroyn; Giati ta trakter alla deixnoyn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia paradeigma, an doyme oti apo tis 36 agrotikes enwseis, 4 einai aytes oi opoies diamartyrhqhkan, enw 32 exoyn ikanopoihqei -kai anaferomai sto bambaki- an doyme oti milame gia thn posothta toy 3,7% sto synolo ths posothtas ths paragwghs bambakioy, an doyme tis epidothseis oi opoies ayjanontai apo 23 drx. se panw apo 35 h 38 drx. -epeidh gia prwth fora eginan epanelegxoi oi opoioi apedwsan dikaiosynh kai synexizontai aytoi oi elegxoi- nai, nomizw oti to katalabainoyn.

GKOYTZANHS: Xqes, o arxhgos toy PASOK kathgorhse thn kybernhsh kai eipe oti oi times se ola ta agrotika proionta kai oxi mono sta epidotoymena exoyn katarreysei kai wfelhmenoi apo ayto bgainoyn mono oi mesazontes, afoy sthn katanalwsh ta antistoixa proionta den einai pio fqhna kai kathgorhse thn kybernhsh oti eyqynetai gi` ayto. Yparxei kapoia apanthsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Papandreoy eipe polla. Qa mporoysa na sas dwsw kapoia stoixeia, hdh exw anaferqei se orismena apo ayta. Milame gia proionta opws to bambaki h to elaiolado, milame gia 100.000 paragwgoys oi opoioi eixan meinei aplhrwtoi apo thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh kai plhrwqhkan apo ayth thn kybernhsh, milame gia ayjhsh twn plhrwmwn se diafora agrotika proionta, gia ayjhsh toy posoy ekeinoy poy kataballetai ws apozhmiwseis apo katastrofes toy ELGA. Ena pio sygkekrimeno paradeigma: To poso toy 2004 einai ayjhmeno kata 34%. Anerxetai sta 540 ekatommyria eyrw, se sxesh me ton meso oro twn dyo teleytaiwn etwn poy htan 401 ekatommyria eyrw. Einai poly shmantiko opoiosdhpote politikos ths xwras na endiaferetai gia toys agrotes kai gia oles tis koinwnikes omades. Den eidame to idio endiaferon apo ton k. Papandreoy, otan gia paradeigma sto meizon qema to opoio syzhtame tis teleytaies hmeres, dhladh ths paragwghs bambakos, h tote kybernhsh toy PASOK den petyxe ta pososta poy qa eprepe na eixe petyxei gia thn paragwgh sthn Ellada. Sas qymizw oti h Ellada epi kybernhsews PASOK stis Bryjeles, petyxe poly xamhloterh paragwgh ap` oti h Ispania h opoia analogika exei mikroterh paragwgh apo mas.

SIDERHS: Ti ennoeite kyrie Ekproswpe, eprepe na kallierghqoyn kai alla xwrafia; Otan to 1993 h paragwgh htan 330.000 tonoi kai ftasame twra stoys 1.400.000 tonoys, ti qa eprepe na kanei to PASOK; Na ayjhqoyn ta kallierghsima xwrafia gia na pesei h poiothta kai na meiwqei h epidothsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Profanws an eiste enantion twn agrotwn. Epeidh emeis eimaste yper twn agrotwn qa hqela na epanadiatypwsw ayto poy eipa kai prohgoymenws. Otan stis Bryjeles syzhthqhke h posostwsh, opoy kaqe xwra poy paragei bambaki dikaioytai na exei sto synolo ths koinotikhs paragwghs, h posostwsh gia thn Ellada htan poly mikroterh apo ayto poy ths analogoyse. Tote htan mia diapragmateysh opoy oristhke h posostwsh. Ayto den allazei pleon, epi th basei ekeinoy toy kanona, o opoios kaqoristhke tote. Edwsa sygkritika ena paradeigma gia na katanohsoyme oloi oti h Ispania poy eixe mikroterh paragwgh phre megalytera pososta apo emas poy eixame megalyterh paragwgh. Epi th basei aytoy toy kanona krinetai o kaqenas mas.

GKOYTZANHS: Den exw logo na amfisbhthsw ta stoixeia gia ton ELGA kai gia tis apozhmiwseis. Fantazomai oti etsi qa einai. Qa hqela na rwthsw omws kati pio sygkekrimeno. Gia paradeigma me to sitari. Oi eisagwges eginan efetos prin th sygkomidh ths ellhnikh paragwghs kai to apotelesma einai oti oxi mono exoyn pesei oi times twn ellhnikwn sithrwn alla exoyn meinei adiaqetes oi posothtes. Parallhla h timh toy cwmioy ston katanalwth den exei meiwqei kaqoloy. Mporeite na mas ejhghsete ayto to periergo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oson afora sto sitari, h synolikh katabolh toy posoy twn enisxysewn oi opoies exoyn ginei shmera, yperbainoyn kata 15% to antistoixo ths prohgoymenhs periodoy. Ayto einai ena pososto arketa megalo se sxesh me ta xrhmata ta opoia edidonto kata thn prohgoymenh periodo.

XIWTHS: Se mia synenteyjh toy xqes o prwhn dieyqynths enhmerwshs toy Ypoyrgeioy Amynas anaferei oti eixe jekinhsei h epanadiapragmateysh deka megalwn symbasewn toy Ypoyrgeioy. Ti apeginan aytes oi symbaseis; Synexizetai h epanadiapragmateysh h exei diakopei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw an isxyei ayto poy anaferei o prwhn Dieyqynths Enhmerwshs toy Ypoyrgeioy Amynas. Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw, elpizontas oti den qa kathgorhqw oti ypeiserxomai se qemata allwn Ypoyrgeiwn. Giati diabasa kai kathgoria, oti asxoloymai me perissotera apo ta politika qemata poy erwtwmai edw.

XIWTHS: Apo poion;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Diabasa mia kathgoria apo kapoia dhmosiografikh syndikalistikh enwsh oti kakws zhtw apo Ypoyrgoys na erxontai edw gia na enhmerwsoyn peraiterw toys dhmosiografoys. Gi` ayto exw pei polles fores oti kalo einai eidikes erwthseis na apeyqynontai sta Ypoyrgeia, etsi wste na mhn fanei oti symmetexoyme oloi se ``apajiwsh'' twn dhmosiografwn poy kalyptoyn ta ypoloipa reportaz.

XIWTHS: H kybernhsh to yioqetei ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh qewrhse apo thn prwth stigmh oti qa htan kalo na erxontai edw kai alloi Ypoyrgoi gia na mporei na enhmerwnetai kai to politiko reportaz alla kai oi reporter twn Ypoyrgeiwn poy kalyptoyn to reportaz ayto. Opws gnwrizete, exw kinhsei to qema apo thn arxh. Exw zhthsei apo synadelfoys na erqoyn edw gia na sas enhmerwsoyn kalytera. Htan mia apostrofh me aformh thn erwthsh sas. Ayto den shmainei oti den qa apantw se erwthseis sas, afoy enhmerwnomai apo ta ypoloipa Ypoyrgeia.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Dhladh synadelfoi sas exoyn arnhqei na erqoyn edw;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Katalabate to entelws antiqeto.

KAKALHS: H kybernhsh einai proqymh na bohqhsei sto programma ekpaideyshs Irakinwn ajiwmatikwn kai syzhta th morfh, to xrono kai ton topo ths bohqeias ayths, opws epi lejh dhlwnei o neos amerikanos presbeyths se kyriakatikh synenteyjh toy. Epishs poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia tis ekloges sto Irak;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi ekloges einai ena kalo bhma gia th Dhmokratia. Se o,ti afora sto prwto erwthma, sto plaisio twn ypoxrewsewn poy exoyme analabei apo dieqneis organismoys poy metexoyme, qa bohqhsoyme ki emeis- opws exoyme hdh kanei kai se alles perioxes- opoy exoyme symbatikes ypoxrewseis.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Symplhrwnontai ennea xronia apo thn krish twn Imiwn aytes tis meres. Qa hqela na rwthsw an yparxei kapoio porisma gia ta aitia, toys ypeyqynoys poy synetelesan se ekeinh thn epeisodiakh periodo kai an qa prepei na perimenoyme kati kainoyrio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw.

KYRITSHS: Me aformh thn erwthsh toy eyrwboyleyth toy SYN k. Papadhmoylh qa hqela na rwthsw an h kybernhsh protiqetai na qesei zhthma dikaioy twn qalasswn sthn entajiakh diadikasia ths Toyrkias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw.

Sas eyxaristw.

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