Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-01-27

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 27 Ianoyarioy 2005

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, poios sas peiqei apo toys dyo; O k. Fwlias poy leei oti h aporrofhtikothta toy YPEXWDE einai sxedon mhdenikh h o k. Soyflias poy leei oti thn anebase +6%;

ANTWNAROS: Prokeitai profanws gia paranohsh sxetika me toys ariqmoys, h opoia diogkwqhke apo orismena Mesa Enhmerwshs. O armodios Yfypoyrgos k. Fwlias anaferqhke se ariqmoys poy periexoyn mono thn koinotikh syndromh. Oi ariqmoi toy YPEXWDE opws toys paroysiase o Yfypoyrgos k. Janqopoylos, periexoyn peran ths koinotikhs syneisforas kai thn eqnikh symmetoxh. Allwste ayto, opws eipe kai sth xqesinh paroysiash poy ekane o k. Fwlias ws armodios Yfypoyrgos gia thn aporrofhtikothta twn sygkekrimenwn kondyliwn, to YPEXWDE exei thn anwtath apodosh se sxesh me ta alla Ypoyrgeia.

SIDERHS: Alhqeyoyn oi plhrofories oti sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas oi synadelfoi qa phgainoyn me stratiwtikes stoles;

ANTWNAROS: Thn erwthsh sas monon ws asteismo mporw na thn antilhfqw.

SIDERHS: Oxi, apla akoyse o ``akatonomastos'' gia strateymenh dhmosiografia kai eipe na epistrateysei@

ANTWNAROS: Egw gnwrizw ton k. Sphliwtopoylo, o opoios einai Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Opws sas exw pei -kai to epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora- den qa dexqw apo kanenan apajiwtikoys xarakthrismoys gia kanena melos ths kybernhshs kai gia kanena politiko proswpo. Arketa!

SIDERHS: Den htan prosbolh, htan ena eidos xioymor.

POYLIDOY: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw an h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei steilei kapoion ekproswpo sto forum toy Ntabos kai an oxi, giati;

ANTWNAROS: Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw.

TSIODRAS: Se sxesh me to prwto, me ton k. Fwlia. An, me bash tis dieykriniseis poy edwse o k. Janqopoylos, qa eprepe na paroysiastoyn diaforetika ta stoixeia apo ton k. Fwlia. Kai deyteron, qa ginw yperaspisths toy k. Siderh kai qa pw to ejhs: Den prokeitai gia apajiwtikoys xarakthrismoys. O kaqe dhmosiografos, nomizw oti exei thn eleyqeria na ekfrazetai opws nomizei. Apo ekei kai pera, an empiptei se sygkekrimenes poinikes parabaseis h otidhpote allo, yparxoyn@

ANTWNAROS: Poinikes;

TSIODRAS: Nai. An briseis kapoion h an ton loidorhseis@

ANTWNAROS: Me sygxwreite, oi Ypoyrgoi exoyn onoma.

SIDERHS @ TSIODRAS: H ESHEA exei apagoreysei na anaferetai.

ANTWNAROS: Egw eimai Ekproswpos ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

SIDERHS: Akoygetai xioymoristika kai skwptika, alla den mporoyme na ton poyme kai alliws.

ANTWNAROS: Kata th dikh sas krish.

SIDERHS: Qa ypostoyme synepeies.

ANTWNAROS: Kata th dikh sas krish.

TSIODRAS: Apo ekei kai pera, efoson den prosballei, den brizei, nomizw oti to yfos toy kaqe dhmosiografoy ajiologeitai@

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa ep` aytoy.

TSIODRAS: Gia ton k. Fwlia den moy apanthsate.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa pws exei to qema. Ejalloy, poly megalyterh shmasia apo to ti egine sto parelqon, exei h stoxeysh gia to mellon. Oti dhladh ayth h kybernhsh kai th boylhsh exei kai thn apofasistikothta na aporrofhsei mexri to telos ths tetraetias osa pio polla kondylia ginetai. Ayto to eipe xqes o k. Fwlias kai ayto metraei gia mas.

MIXAHL: H kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh apo th syzhthsh poy egine sto Zappeio me aformh to qema peri ``listwn'', oxi ``listwn'' sxesewn dhmosiografwn - dhmosioy k.lp.;

ANTWNAROS: Diejhxqh mia syzhthsh diarkeias trishmish wrwn, h opoia teleiwse prin apo ligo kai htan poly epoikodomhtikh.

MIXAHL: Mesa sth syzhthsh ayth plhroforhqhkame h toylaxiston katalabame, opws mas enhmerwsan, oti h kybernhsh skeptetai, ta symperasmata, to ``dia tayta'', to o,ti apokomise telos pantwn ap` ayth th syzhthsh, na ta qesmoqethsei kiolas. Mporeite na mas peite sas parakalw, ti morfh qa paroyn ayta;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa exei pei o k. Roysopoylos. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

MIXAHL: Qa perimenoyme, dhladh, mia nomoqetikh prwtoboylia apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

BASILOPOYLOS: Edw mprosta moy exw ena arketa xontro paketo xartia me qemata deontologias dhmosiografwn ana thn Eyrwph. Poso eykolo einai, kata thn apoch ths kybernhshs kai kata th dikh sas apoch na efarmostoyn ayta poy diabasa, etsi sta petaxta, sthn Ellada; Qelw na pw oti h kaqe koinwnia kai h kaqe xwra exei tis dikes ths idiaiterothtes.

ANTWNAROS: O idios eipate oti h kaqe koinwnia asfalws exei tis dikes ths idiaiterothtes. An diabasei kapoios ayth th synoch -h opoia exei thn ennoia mias pyjidas- diapistwnei oti apo xwra se xwra yparxoyn diaforopoihseis. Epishs, omws, diapistwnei oti, opws sthn Ellada, etsi kai stis alles eyrwpaikes xwres, isxyoyn orismenes basikes arxes tis opoies oi dhmosiografikes Enwseis -stis opoies symperilambanw bebaiws kai tis ellhnikes dhmosiografikes Enwseis- exoyn desmeyqei na thrhsoyn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ton teleytaio kairo yparxei mia sygxordia toyrkikwn proklhtikwn dhlwsewn gia thn Ellada. Den jerw poy apoblepei ayto. Xqes eixame sklhres dhlwseis apo ton Yparxhgo twn Enoplwn Dynamewn ths Toyrkias o opoios kathgorei anoikta pleon thn Ellada gia dhmioyrgia problhmatwn sto Aigaio, amfisbhtei to FIR, braxonhsides kai milaei gia to eyros twn xwrikwn ydatwn ths Elladas sta 6 milia. Dierwtwmai an xrhzei mias apanthsews apo thn kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Prokeitai gia palaies kai gnwstes qeseis ths Toyrkias tis opoies h ellhnikh pleyra den apodexetai.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Mporoyme na tis afhnoyme na aiwroyntai;

ANTWNAROS: Oi qeseis ths Elladas einai gnwstes.

GALIATSATOS: Yparxoyn plhrofories gia allagh toy amyntikoy dogmatos kai epanemfanish toy apo borra kindyno. Ti anhsyxei thn kybernhsh kai odhgeitai se mia tetoia politikh. Fobatai ekrhjh toy Kosoboy to 2005;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw tetoioy eidoys plhrofories, opws aytes poy anaferete. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sta armodia Ypoyrgeia.

XIWTHS: Parakoloyqhsame xqes ton Prwqypoyrgo na perigrafei me idiaitera melana xrwmata thn katastash ths oikonomias kai taytoxrona na epikaleitai thn isxy poy toy edwse to teleytaio eklogiko apotelesma gia na proxwrhsei opws eipe se metarryqmiseis kai prosarmoges. O syndyasmos aytwn twn dyo diapistwsewn kai proanaggeliwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy mas dhmioyrgei basima thn aisqhsh oti h oikonomikh politikh ths kybernhshs qa allajei toys epomenoys mhnes. Einai etsi;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na ermhneysw tis dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Omws, qa epanalabw ayto poy eipe xqes o Prwqypoyrgos: ``Einai xronia proklhsewn, gennaiwn apofasewn, allagwn kai metarryqmisewn. Einai xronia diarqrwtikwn allagwn gia th xwra''. Qa epanalabw, epishs, ayto poy eipa egw edw, xqes: Exoyme sygkekrimeno oikonomiko programma to opoio perigrafetai ston proypologismo poy egkriqhke. S` ayta ta plaisia qa kinhqei h kybernhsh.

XIWTHS: Pragmati to tmhma poy diabasate einai to ena apo ta dyo sta opoia anaferqhka. Yphrxe kai ena allo tmhma to opoio diabasthke sthn arxh ths omilias toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai to opoio anefere oti o Prwqypoyrgos gnwrizei poso dyskolh einai h katastash, gnwrizei se ti qysies kaloyntai na antapokriqoyn oi polites kai genika yphrje mia perigrafh ths oikonomias thn opoia mexri shmera den exoyme janadei. Se sxesh loipon me tis prosarmoges poy proanaggellei dhmioyrgeitai eyloga h aporia, an ayth h oikonomikh politikh pataei kala sta podia ths h einai etoimh gia prosarmoges me qeamatiko qa elega tropo.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa eipe o Prwqypoyrgos.

MIXAHL: Thn perasmenh Deytera, edw, anaferqhkate eyqys ejarxhs sthn klimakwsh ths symmetoxhs ths Elladas sto Afganistan me mia nosokomeiakh monada. Yparxoyn shmera dhmosieymata kai plhrofories oti o politikos proistamenos toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas diapistwse oti den einai efikto sta xronodiagrammata poy mas perigracate na ginei ayto.

ANTWNAROS: Den periegraca kanena xronodiagramma. Den milhsa gia kanena xronodiagramma.

MIXAHL: Eipate oti qa steiloyme syntoma@

ANTWNAROS: Milhsate gia xronodiagrammata.

MIXAHL: To ``syntoma'' einai sxetiko, ena @ dyo mhnes, treis; Oi plhrofories milane kai gia dekaoktw mhnes h oti den exoyme akoma th monada ayth.

ANTWNAROS: Anatrejte sta praktika ths politikhs enhmerwshs ths Deyteras 24/01, wste na enhmerwqeite gia to ti akribws eipa.

TSIODRAS: Xqes sth Boylh egine mia syzhthsh sxetika me tis proslhceis sto dhmosio. H antipoliteysh milaei gia 34.000 diorismoys galaziwn paidiwn ta opoia qa primodothqoyn opws antistoixa primodotoyntai kai aytoi poy eixan proslhfqei ws symbasioyxoi prin tis ekloges. Ti allazei loipon otan oi symbasioyxoi proslambanontai me ena tropo poy den einai antikeimenikos kai apo kei kai pera primodotoyntai sto na monimopoihqoyn.

ANTWNAROS: Stoys entelws abasimoys isxyrismoys stoys opoioys anafereste apanthse xqes sth Boylh o k. Paylopoylos. Aytoi oi entelws asthriktoi isxyrismoi ofeilontai, eite se paroimiwdh agnoia, eite se syneidhth diastreblwsh ths pragmatikothtas. Den yparxei tipote tetoio.

TSIODRAS: Otan lete den yparxei ti ennoeite; Den exoyn ginei 34.000 proslhceis, den yparxei moriodothsh; Ti den yparxei;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa oti oi isxyrismoi poy anafereste einai asthriktoi.

TSIODRAS: Qa mporoysate na mas dieykrinisete ti den yparxei; Den exoyn ginei diorismoi; Den qa ginei moriodothsh; Ti ennoeite oti einai asthrixtoi;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa. Oi isxyrismoi, opws diatypwqhkan apo to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs sth Boylh, einai asthriktoi.

POYLIDOY: Sto synolo toys dhladh;

ANTWNAROS: Einai asthriktoi.

SARANTAKOS: Shmera me synenteyjh toy sthn efhmerida ``EQNOS'' o antiproedros ths Boylhs, o k. Soyrlas kanei mia protash gia thn ektonwsh ths entashs poy yparxei metajy ths kybernhshs kai twn agrotwn. Kai epanaferei xarakthristika oti qa mporoyse san mia ystath lysh na yparjei ayto to ranteboy toy k. Karamanlh me toys agrotes. Einai se ayth thn kateyqynsh kai h kybernhsh; Apodexetai dhladh ayth thn eishghsh poy kanei o antiproedros ths Boylhs h paramenoyn ayta poy exei pei.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei sygkekrimenh politikh sto agrotiko qema. Oi qeseis ths kybernhshs einai gnwstes kai ejakoloyqoyn na isxyoyn.

SARANTAKOS: Ara, qema synanthsews twn agrotwn me ton Prwqypoyrgo den yparxei.

ANTWNAROS: Thn agrotikh politikh kat` entolh ths kybernhshs thn xeirizetai o Ypoyrgos Gewrgikhs Anaptyjhs k. Mpasiakos.

Sas eyxaristw.

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