Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-01-19

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 19 Ianoyarioy 2005

TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SOYGLERHS: Diabasa poly prosektika th sklhrh anakoinwsh, qa elega, toy sygkrothmatos Mpompola, me aformh th mh pwlhsh ths ``Phgasos''. Qa hqela na sas kanw treis erwthseis: Prwton, mila gia ejontwsh ths oikogeneias Mpompola. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai se ti anaferetai h sygkekrimenh anakoinwsh. Opws sas eipe kai o k. Roysopoylos proxqes, h kybernhsh nomoqetei epi th basei arxwn.

SOYGLERHS: Deyteron, mila gia wmh ypokatastash symferontwn. Qa hqela ki edw to sxolio sas.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw kanena allo sxolio gia to sygkekrimeno dhmosieyma.

SOYGLERHS: Kai triton, gia prospaqeia xeiragwghshs toy Typoy.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

SIDERHS: Peripoiei timh gia thn kybernhsh to gegonos oti gia prwth fora sta xronika h ESHEA katesthse enan ypoyrgo ``akatonomasto''; Meta apo ayto qa allajei taktikh apenanti stoys dhmosiografoys; Oso xioymoristiko ki an einai to ``akatonomastos'', einai sobaro problhma.

ANTWNAROS: Sas aresei na paizete me tis lejeis, kati to opoio katanow kai sebomai apolytws.

SIDERHS: To kako einai oti o ``akatonomastos'' paizei me toys dhmosiografoys.

ANTWNAROS: Na sas enhmerwsw gia to ejhs: Thn perasmenh Paraskeyh, arga to apogeyma @kai to gnwrizw dioti hmoyn kai egw parwn- o ypoyrgos k Roysopoylos synanthqhke sto grafeio toy, gia perissotero apo dyo wres me to D.S. ths ESHEA. Htan mia prokaqorismenh synanthsh. Eteqhsan apo to D.S. ths ESHEA diafora qemata pros syzhthsh, anamesa se ayta kai to qema, sto opoio anafereste: Dhladh h dhmosiografikh kalych twn drasthriothtwn toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas. Meta apo protash toy k. Roysopoyloy, egine apodekto kai apo tis dyo pleyres @kai malista me th symfwnh gnwmh olwn twn paristamenwn melwn toy D.S. ths ESHEA- na diereynhqei kai apo tis dyo pleyres ti isxyei se alles xwres, oson afora sthn kalych twn sygkekrimenwn qematwn kai thn prosbash twn dhmosiografwn se ypoyrgeia poy diaxeirizontai eyaisqhta qemata, opws to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. Ayto egine me koinh symfwnia thn opoia elpizoyme oti h ESHEA qa thrhsei. Kleinontas, qelw na sas dieykrinisw oti apo th dikh mas pleyra exoyme syllejei hdh ta prwta stoixeia ta opoia analabame na syllejoyme.

SIDERHS: Me sygxwreite, ti sxesh exei to ti ginetai stis alles xwres; Stis alles xwres den ginetai kaqhmerino briefing. Shmainei oti qa to stamathsei kai edw; Einai alles oi synqhkes kai diaforetikes oi anagkes.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Den prokeitai ep` aytoy na kanw kamia allh topoqethsh.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, syxna-pykna mas parapempete gia eqnika qemata sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Apeyqynomaste kai den pairnoyme kamia apanthsh. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Ayto ofeiletai sto oti den paragetai doyleia sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, sto oti yparxei mystikh diplwmatia h triton sto oti h kybernhsh exei apofasisei na yparjoyn straties anergwn dhmosiografwn, afoy den exoyn antikeimeno na asxoloyntai;

SIDERHS: @H tetarton, fobatai thn enhmerwsh;

ANTWNAROS: Mhn katalhgete se ypoqetika symperasmata. Qelw na pw mono toyto: H kybernhsh ayth einai anoikth kai kanei platia, baqia, leptomereiakh kai antikeimenikh enhmerwsh. O k. Koymoytsakos, o opoios einai epifortismenos me thn enhmerwsh sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, kanei kala th doyleia toy. Kanei taktikes enhmerwseis. Gnwrizw epishs oti polloi dhmosiografoi miloyn mazi toy taktika sto thlefwno. Ola ta alla einai ek toy ponhroy.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Den katalaba. To oti milame, k. Ekproswpe, shmainei oti mas leei kai plhrofories; Giati mporei apla na einai mia koinwnikh sxesh. Milame gia thn oysia ths enhmerwshs. Den afora proswpika ton k. Koymoytsako. Afora thn antilhch poy epikratei ayth th stigmh sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

ANTWNAROS: Exete to dikaiwma sth gnwmh sas.

GKOYTZANHS: Egw qelw na meinw ligo sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. Eseis den qelete na peite perissotera. Emeis ofeiloyme na rwthsoyme. Exw dyo erwthseis: Prwton, giati allazei to kaqestws sthn enhmerwsh poy yphrxe toso kairo; Dhladh, ti einai ayto poy ekane thn kybernhsh na thn allajei; Ayto, toylaxiston, nomizw oti ofeilete na mas to peite.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw tipota allo gi` ayto to qema.

GKOYTZANHS: Ayth h allagh, poy shmainei periorismoys sthn enhmerwsh twn dhmosiografwn, erxetai san synexeia ths topoqethshs ws ypeyqynoy Typoy enos stratiwtikoy, o opoios ypokeitai ki aytos stis desmeyseis toy leitoyrghmatos toy. Dhladh, synolika meta thn ypoqesh toy elikopteroy poy profanws stoixise sthn kybernhsh, exoyme mia allagh toy tropoy enhmerwshs apo to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw tipota allo sto qema.

XIDIROGLOY: Molis prin apo ligo plhroforhqhkame oti erxetai mesa sto Sabbatokyriako @kai malista to Sabbato paraxwrei synenteyjh Typoy se kentriko jenodoxeio twn Aqhnwn- o arxhgos toy Eqnikoy Metwpoy ths Gallias Zan Mari Lepen. Hqela na rwthsw thn kybernhsh, einai kalodexoymenos o Gallos politikos;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy tis sygkekrimenes plhrofories, stis opoies anafereste.

TSIODRAS: Xqes to EKOFIN elabe mia apofash gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia, h opoia tiqetai oysiastika se epithrhsh gia toys epomenoys mhnes. Qa hqela na kanw dyo erwthseis: Prwton, an ejakoloyqei h kybernhsh na pisteyei oti ta apotelesmata ths apografhs einai epwfelh gia thn eikona ths Elladas kai thn ellhnikh oikonomia kai deyteron, poia einai ta prosqeta metra poy qa labei me bash tis systaseis poy ginontai apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

ANTWNAROS: Xrhsimopoieite ton oro ``epithrhsh'' o opoios den exei kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

TSIODRAS: ``Ypagwgh'' sto sygkekrimeno arqro shmainei se diarkeis elegxoys apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai h dikh sas ektimhsh.

GALIATSATOS: Paradexeste pantws oti qa ypaxqoyme sto sygkekrimeno arqro syntoma.

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Ayth th stigmh allwste kanei enhmerwsh o armodios Ypoyrgos k. Alogoskoyfhs. Den prokeitai na prokatalabw tis dhlwseis toy. Osa exoyme pei gia thn apografh isxyoyn mexri keraias. Den allazei tipota.

TSIODRAS: Se sxesh me to deytero skelos ths erwthshs moy;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite ston armodio Ypoyrgo, o opoios kanei ayth th stigmh enhmerwsh.

SPYRAKH: Protiqetai h kybernhsh na anoijei h twra h se eyqeto xrono to Asfalistiko;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

KAKALHS: Ws antipoliteysh, h Nea Dhmokratia kathggeile thn Agkyra gia thn epiqetikh politikh ths sto Aigaio kai th dhmioyrgia ``gkrizwn zwnwn''. Twra, par` olo poy yparxoyn synexh epeisodia h symbanta, opws ta apokaleite, sto Aigaio kai epanerxetai h qewria twn ``gkrizwn zwnwn'', h kybernhsh den leei tipota gia tis ``gkrizes zwnes'' sto Aigaio.

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh, h ellhnikh politeia, ta ellhnika kommata den anagnwrizoyn, den paradexontai, den miloyn gia ``gkrizes zwnes''. Ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata ths Ellados sto nhsiwtiko xwro, sto Aigaio kai opoy alloy yparxoyn, den apoteloyn se kamia periptwsh antikeimeno pros diapragmateysh.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Den sas anhsyxei oti to teleytaio xroniko diasthma sto Aigaio yparxoyn allepallhla epeisodia; Eixame ta Imia, synexeis enoxlhseis, eixame to qema diaswshs kai ereynas proxqes, eixame to dhmosieyma toy ``Eqnoys'', opoy to epibebaiwsate oysiastika. Blepoyme, dhladh, oti yparxei mia kinhtikothta apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias se o,ti afora to Aigaio. Den sas anhsyxei ayth h symperifora kai ti qa kanete;

ANTWNAROS: Xqes edwsa periektikh apanthsh, h opoia ejakoloyqei na isxyei.

XONDROS: Yparxei mia poiotikh anabaqmish twn toyrkikwn proklhsewn sto Aigaio kai to peristatiko poy egine sta Cara qymizei se para poly megalo baqmo to peristatiko twn Imiwn. H xwra mas exei deijei mia kalh diaqesh apenanti sthn Toyrkia. To qema einai pws ermhneyei th stash twn geitonwn kai an anhsyxei apo ayth thn poiotikh anabaqmish twn proklhsewn toys.

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa xqes.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Yparxei plhroforia oti o k. Karamanlhs eixe thlefwnikh epikoinwnia me ton k. Erntogan sxetika me ta gegonota sto Aigaio. Alhqeyei;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw tipota tetoio.

RABANOS: Exw dyo erwthseis: Prwton, oson afora to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas, eipate oti perimenete na thrhsei h ESHEA th desmeysh ths. Eseis exete syllejei kapoia stoixeia. Mporeite na mas peite poia einai ayta ta stoixeia; To deytero afora tis toyrkikes proklhseis. An h kybernhsh fobatai ``qermo'' epeisodio.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti h kybernhsh exei proxwrhsei sth sygkentrwsh stoixeiwn. Otan oloklhrwqei h diadikasia, qa sygkrinoyme ta stoixeia me ta stoixeia ths ESHEA kai akoloyqws qa proxwrhsoyme se endexomenh ryqmish. Oson afora sto deytero erwthma sas, prokeitai gia ypoqetikh erwthsh kai thn opoia den epiqymw na sxoliasw.

GALIATSATOS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean sth symfwnia poy eixate kanei me thn ESHEA kai sthn opoia lete oti hsastan parwn, yphrxe desmeysh toy k. Roysopoyloy pros thn ESHEA oti wspoy na ginei olo ayto to sxedio to opoio perigrafoyme edw, qa pagwne h efarmogh ths ryqmishs poy prowqhse to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas monomerws apo th Deytera, oti den qa enhmerwnontai ta epiteleia, giati peri aytoy prokeitai.

ANTWNAROS: To poios qa kanei thn enhmerwsh sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas afora thn politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas.

GALIATSATOS: Desmeysh apo thn pleyra toy k. Roysopoyloy yphrxe pros thn ESHEA, oti den qa proxwrhsoyn oi allages; Giati oi allages proxwrhsan.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

GALIATSATOS: Den einai apanthsh ayto. Sas rwtw gia ton k. Roysopoylo.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qelw na rwthsw ean yparxei qema pwlhshs ths Emporikhs Trapezas sthn CREDIT AGRICOLE kai an exei teqei ws proypoqesh h epilysh toy Asfalistikoy, opws afhse safws na ennohqei o k. Panagiwtopoylos.

ANTWNAROS: Einai eidiko qema, gia to opoio parakalw na apeyqynqeite stoys endiaferomenoys.

GKOYTZANHS: H kybernhsh symfwnei me thn protash toy k. Boyrloymh gia thn katarghsh ths monimothtas ston OTE;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Boyrloymhs exei analabei na anadiorganwsei ton OTE. Sto plaisio ayths ths prospaqeias ginontai orismenes skeceis, kataballontai orismenes prospaqeies, ekponoyntai sxedia poy briskontai akomh sto stadio ths antallaghs apocewn me oloys toys endiaferomenoys kai fysika me toys ergazomenoys ston OTE.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Yparxei kapoio sxolio gia th morfh twn agrotikwn kinhtopoihsewn kai gia ton tropo poy oi agrotes exoyn epilejei na ekdhlwsoyn th dysareskeia toys poy fainetai apo ta problhmata poy antimetwpizoyn; Lene, as poyme, oti ``den qa kleisoyme toys dromoys proswrina, qa kaqisoyme me ta trakter stis pleyres twn dromwn''. H kybernhsh to sxoliazei ayto; Einai ikanopoihmenh apo thn ejelijh; Qa mporoyse na to apotrecei;

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa kai thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, h kybernhsh brisketai se dialogo me toys agrotes. O dialogos aytos synexizetai. Ginetai antallagh apocewn. Yparxoyn kai alles programmatismenes synanthseis ths politikhs hgesias me ekproswpoys toy agrotikoy kosmoy. To zhtoymeno einai na breqoyn lyseis oi opoies qa ikanopoihsoyn ton agrotiko kosmo kai qa apokatasthsoyn thn hremia sthn perifereia.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Blepete fws ap` ola ayta;

ANTWNAROS: To qema brisketai se ejelijh. Einai antikeimeno syzhthsewn.

GALIATSATOS: Thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, o Yfypoyrgos Biomhxanias k. Salagkoydhs anakoinwse oti eixe labei mia epistolh apo ton Rwso omologo toy gia na synanthqoyn kai na syzhthsoyn thn ypografh gia ton agwgo Mpoyrkas @ Alejandroypolhs. Qa mas peite pote qa ginei ayth h synanthsh;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite ston k. Salagkoydh.

KAKALHS: O neos Amerikanos presbeyths stis epafes poy exei kanei mexri twra me toys Ypoyrgoys exei zhthsei na ayjhqei h stratiwtikh symmetoxh sto Afganistan h se politiko proswpiko;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, den yparxei ellhnikh symmetoxh me stratiwtikes maximes omades sto Afganistan. Yparxoyn monades mhxanikwn. H synergasia ginetai sto plaisio twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, dhladh, ths synergasias poy exoyn para polla krath gia th staqeropoihsh ths katastashs sto Afganistan. S` ayto to plaisio symballei h ellhnikh kybernhsh. An ths zhthqei na symbalei me ayjhsh ayths ths paroysias -anaferomai panta se analogo proswpiko- ayto einai antikeimeno pros syzhthsh.

XONDROS: Exoyme stratiwtikes dynameis sto Afganistan kai epiteloyn shmantiko ergo.

XIDIROGLOY: Den exoyme monades toy Ygeionomikoy ekei;

ANTWNAROS: Otan leme ``stratiwtiko proswpiko'', ennooyme maximes monades poy metexoyn stis stratiwtikes epixeirhseis kai tetoies den exoyme.

GALIATSATOS: Pws qa xarakthrize h kybernhsh, meta th Synodo ths 17hs Dekembrioy kai thn paratash ths hmeromhnias sthn Toyrkia, tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis; Qa tis xarakthrizate kales;

ANTWNAROS: Oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis xarakthrizontai apo antallagh apocewn, apo sxeseis kalhs geitonias poy prepei na xarakthrizoyn dyo xwres kai apo synergasia poy yparxei se polla epipeda.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa moy epitrecete na pw oti kales sxeseis geitonias den yparxoyn ayth th stigmh metajy Elladas @ Toyrkias. Apo th mia h Toyrkia kanei peripatoys sto ellhniko Aigaio kai apo thn allh emeis aplws parakoloyqoyme tis ejelijeis.

ANTWNAROS: H Toyrkia den kanei kanenan apolytws peripato sto Aigaio. @Opote h Toyrkia epexeirhse na qijei zwnes, sfaires ellhnikwn kyriarxikwn dikaiwmatwn exei ejanagkastei na apomakrynqei. Oi ellhnikes enoples dynameis kai h ellhnikh Politeia yperaspizontai sto akeraio ta ellhnika kyriarxika dikaiwmata. Kaqistoyn de safes oti den prokeitai na dexqoyn kamia apolytws meiwsh twn kyriarxikwn dikaiwmatwn mas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kata ta legomena sas, den exoyme kanena problhma me thn Toyrkia sto Aigaio.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto. Eseis paroysiazete thn katastash diaforetika.

GALIATSATOS: Diabazw oti ypoxwrei gia pempto mhna o deikths toy oikonomikoy klimatos toy IOBE kai oti o epixeirhmatikos kosmos einai apaisiodojos. Einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh ap` ayth thn ejelijh;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na rwthsete ton k. Alogoskoyfh.

Eyxaristw poly.

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