Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-01-17

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 17 Ianoyarioy 2004

APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Ayrio, stis 11:00 to prwi, qa synedriasei sto Megaro Majimoy h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me qema to DIKATSA kai draseis poy aforoyn sthn Paideia kai ton Politismo.

Sto plaisio twn synergasiwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy me tis politikes hgesies twn Ypoyrgeiwn thn Tetarth, stis 10:30 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh sto Megaro Majimoy me thn politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Apasxolhshs kai Koinwnikhs Prostasias.

Thn Pempth, stis 10:30 to prwi, qa synanthqei me thn politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias.

O Prwqypoyrgos thn Paraskeyh, stis 9:15 to prwi, qa parastei sthn enarjh toy eqnikoy dialogoy gia thn Paideia, poy qa ginei sto Zappeio Megaro.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

BLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe exw akoysei ton Prwqypoyrgo na leei polles fores oti h xwra mas einai yper ths eleyqerhs oikonomias. Den katalabainw loipon gia poioys logoys efoson eimaste mia sobarh xwra kai dhmioyrgoyme se mia eleyqerh oikonomia, apofasisthke to prwi na stamathsei h diapragmateysh ths metoxhs ths etaireias PHGASOS. Den einai eleyqerh h oikonomia, den mporei na diapragmateyqei mia metoxh estw ki an ginetai mia symfwnia; Kai qa hqela kai th gnwmh sas gia to qema ths @.(den akoygetai)

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw to qema sto opoio anafereste. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Xrhmatisthrio Aqhnwn gia na sas dwsoyn tis ejhghseis.

BLAXOS: Afora kai thn kybernhsh. Giati exei epiptwseis sthn oikonomikh zwh toy topoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn kapoioi kanonismoi, oi opoioi akoloyqhqhkan

BLAXOS: Gia ton PHGASO, gia th symfwnia, qa mas peite kati;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh den sxoliazei epixeirhmatikes symfwnies.

BLAXOS: Den afora kai thn politikh h symfwnia ayth;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa.

SIDERHS: Twra poy katatropwsate ton enan ``ntabatzh'' kai osonoypw kai ton deytero, na ypoqesoyme oti den qa yparxoyn dikaiologies gia tis oligwries kai tis astoxies ths kybernhshs oson afora thn ylopoihsh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Par` oti den symfwnw me th fraseologia ths erwthsews sas, qelw na sas pw@

SIDERHS: Den einai dikh moy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To nomosxedio gia ton basiko metoxo poy qa ginei se ligo nomos toy kratoys, symfwnei apolytws me th syntagmatikh epitagh.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, nomizete oti ayth h symfwnia poy egine gia thn allagh idiokthsias ston PHGASO sxetizetai me to nomosxedio gia to basiko metoxo, enw akomh brisketai sto stadio ths syzhthshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa ti problepei to nomosxedio. Ean kapoios epixeirhmatias exei, me bash to nomo ayto -o opoios ginetai kat` epitagh toy Syntagmatos- to opoiodhpote asymbibasto, qa ryqmisei ta twn epixeirhsewn toy.

GKOYTZANHS: Me ton k. Aggelopoylo to problhma to jeroyme, exei enan adelfo o opoios energopoieitai se diaforetikoy eidoys epixeirhseis, gi` ayton isxyei twra to asymbibasto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O nomos einai safhs.

BLAXOS: Ayto kata th dikh sas apoch, mia kai eiste kai enas apo toys syntelestes toy nomoy, den apotelei adikia; Dhladh enas adelfos o opoios exei diafores me ton adelfo toy, o adelfos toy paei kai agorazei ton Typo kai twra o Kwnstantinos Aggelopoylos den mporei na kanei kamia doyleia me to dhmosio. Ektos apo to oti plhttetai o idios san epixeirhmatias, den plhttetai kai to dhmosio to opoio den qa pairnei proionta apo ton k. Kwnstantino Aggelopoylo, ta opoia endexomenws kapoios allos den mporei na ta kataskeyasei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mia politeia nomoqetei epi th basei arxwn. Oi arxes loipon prodiagrafontai safws sto Syntagma ths xwras mas to opoio anaqewrhqhke prosfatws. Symfwna me thn apofash toy tmhmatos toy Symboylioy ths Epikrateias, sto opoio exei parapemfqei o 3021/2002, dhladh o nomos toy PASOK gia to basiko metoxo, h oikonomikh aytoteleia thn opoia proeblepe o nomos aytos kriqhke antisyntagmatikh. O neos nomos gia ton basiko metoxo elabe ypoch toy to gramma kai to pneyma toy Syntagmatos kaqws kai tis parathrhseis toy Symboylioy ths Epikrateias. Oloi ypoxreoyntai na thrhsoyn to Syntagma kai toys nomoys.

BLAXOS: Nai. Ara sto qema ths diaplokhs -sas exw janarwthsei kai den moy dwsate safh apanthsh, qa hqela shmera na moy thn dwsete- dyo xoreyoyn. Einai o epixeirhmatias kai o politikos, o opoios oysiastika einai h aitia ths diaplokhs. Se ayto den kanete tipota. Dhladh den lambanete metra gia enan kako Ypoyrgo poy qa kanei mia symbash me enan epixeirhmatia gia na toy dwsei perissotera xrhmata ap` oti ajizei to ergo endexomenws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se epipedo qesmwn, oi allages poy exoyn ginei mexri twra briskontai sthn kateyqynsh toy, wste na mhn mporei h opoiadhpote proswpikh parembash opoioydhpote, se opoia qesh ki an brisketai, na ginei se baros ths wfeleias toy kratoys, ths wfeleias toy dhmosioy kai fysika se baros allwn antagwnistwn.

XONDROS: O kosmos toy Olympiakoy exei thn aisqhsh oti h timwria ths omadas toy htan apotelesma kai kybernhtikhs parembashs. Ayto, toylaxiston afhnei na ennohqei me ta synqhmata toy. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Paroti exw idiaiterh sympaqeia sth sygkekrimenh omada qelw na sas pw oti yparxei nomos poy efarmozetai apo thn 1.1.2005. O nomos aytos problepei, metajy allwn, mia shmantikh allagh: Tetoies ypoqeseis den ekdikazontai pleon apo aqlhtikoys dikastes kat` epilogh apo mia swreia dikhgorwn opws sto parelqon, alla apo taktikoys dikastes me klhrwsh. H taktikh Dikaiosynh einai ayth poy lambanei apofaseis. Opws gnwrizete kanenas Ellhnas poliths kai poly perissotero kanenas paragontas ths politikhs zwhs toy topoy dikaioytai na sxoliasei dikastikes apofaseis. Ofeiloyme oloi na sebastoyme th Dikaiosynh kai toys nomoys.

XONDROS: Yparxei kybernhtikh boylhsh, ekfrasmenh stoys boyleytes toy Peiraia na mh symmetexoyn se ekdhlwseis diamartyrias gia thn adikia poy exei ginei se baros ths omadas toys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, exoyn klhqei apo to swmateio toy Olympiakoy oi boyleytes toy Peiraia. Einai ena qema poy afora mia megalh omada. Boyleytes ths perioxhs, sthn opoia exei thn edra ths h omada ayth, mporei na parastoyn, na akoysoyn, na syzhthsoyn kai na symmetasxoyn ston problhmatismo. Ekeino to opoio den mpainei se syzhthsh einai to an qa prepei na throyntai oi nomoi h oxi. Kai sas epanalambanw oti gia prwth fora o nomos aytos orizei oti pleon einai taktikoi oi dikastes poy krinoyn tis antistoixes apofaseis. Kai oi apofaseis dikasthriwn den sxoliazontai apo kanenan.

XONDROS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh pisteyei oti to Prwtaqlhma qa prepei na krinetai sta ghpeda h qa prepei na bgainei o prwtaqlhths me kapoies apofaseis dikasthrioy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh pisteyei oti qa prepei na yparxoyn nomoi poy qa throyntai toso gia ta men, oso kai gia ta de.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Efoson yparxoyn nomoi, yparxei anejarthth, opws eipate, dikaiosynh, giati eprepe na fwnajei o k. Karamanlhs ton k. Orfano sto Majimoy, gia na toy dwsei entolh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kanete laqos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Etsi eipe o k. Orfanos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos kalese ton armodio yfypoyrgo sto Megaro Majimoy, prokeimenoy na enhmerwqei gia ta epeisodia. Alimono! Den mporei o Prwqypoyrgos na enhmerwnetai apo toys ypoyrgoys toy gia qemata ths armodiothtas toys;

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Orfanos, bgainontas apo to Megaro Majimoy, ekane dhlwseis kai eipe oti phre entolh na labei metra, enw eseis eipate twra gia th dikaiosynh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Orfanos, ws armodios yfypoyrgos, exei ferei ena nomo apo to kalokairi, o opoios efarmozetai apo thn 1h Ianoyarioy 2005. Eixe, loipon, ypoxrewsh na enhmerwsei leptomerws ton Prwqypoyrgo gia ta osa synebhsan ston epimaxo agwna. Ayto egine, opws akribws ginetai kai me oloys toys alloys ypoyrgoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai meta na kanei parembash;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sth Dikaiosynh den mporei na parembei kaneis.

BLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, osa lete einai swsta. Omws, peite oti egw qelw na kanw zhmia se mia omada, ston Olympiako, ston Panaqhnaiko h sthn AEK. Pairnw thn parea moy kai mpainoyme sto ghpedo thn wra poy paizei mia apo tis parapanw omades kai arxizoyme kai kanoyme fasaria. Diapistwsame oti h Astynomia to mono poy ekane htan na steilei mia dimoiria twn MAT na xtypan toys filaqloys. Sto telos fagane jylo kai ta MAT kai fygane. Den synelhfqh kaneis. Dhladh, den apodeixqhke ean egw eimai probokatoras h filaqlos toy Olympiakoy. Ayth th stigmh, loipon, exoyme ena fainomeno na timwreitai mia omada, xwris na exei apodeixqei oti oi filaqloi poy htan mesa htan toy Olympiakoy, htan kaqodhgoymenoi. Qa mporoyse na htan filaqloi mias allhs omadas, na dhmioyrghsoyn problhmata, wste na ypostei synepeies ayth h omada. Ayth h adikia den problhmatizei thn kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me eyfyh tropo, alla dia ths plagias odoy, moy qetete oysiastika to idio erwthma. Kai sas apantw: Den protiqemai na sxoliasw apofash ths Dikaiosynhs.

BLAXOS: Oyte tis adikies;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa.

BLAXOS: O nomos den prepei na ejyphretei to dikaio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kaneis den mporei na sxoliasei dikastikh apofash. To dikasthrio elabe mia apofash kai ofeiloyme oloi na th sebastoyme.

BLAXOS: Ma kai oi krinontes, krinontai. Den einai basikh arxh ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den katalabainw ayto poy moy lete. Exete kapoia protash na ginei kapoios kainoyrgios nomos kai na krinontai ta dikasthria kai oi apofaseis toys;

BLAXOS: Na krinete san kybernhsh thn apofash toy armodioy @

ROYSOPOYLOS: H ellhnikh Politeia exei sygkekrimenoys kanonismoys kai exei qesei oria sta opoia kineitai. Kanenas Ellhnas poliths den mporei na krinei tis apofaseis toy dikasthrioy, oi opoies einai apolytws sebastes. Ayto einai gnwsto edw kai xronia.

BLAXOS: Den krinontai oi apofaseis twn dikasthriwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws.

BLAXOS: Pote;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Pote.

SOYGLERHS: O Qodwrhs Roysopoylos, ws filos toy Olympiakoy, enoxlhqhke, plhgwqhke; Qa pate sto syllalhthrio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ta proswpika synaisqhmata toy kaqenos, otan agapa mia omada, aforoyn ton idio.

TRIGKAS: Tis apofaseis toy dikasthrioy den tis krinete. Thn apotelesmatikothta ths Astynomias, sthn prokeimenh periptwsh, mporeite na thn krinete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Pantote yparxoyn periqwria beltiwshs.

SOYRMELIDHS: Sta osa dramatika synebhsan gyrw apo thn perioxh twn Carwn, yparxei opoiodhpote qema gia thn kybernhsh se o,ti afora ta zhthmata ereynas kai diaswshs sto Aigaio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti qema ennoeite;

SOYRMELIDHS: Emplokh ths Toyrkias@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epikoinwnhsa me ta tria synarmodia ypoyrgeia, dhladh, Ejwterikwn, Amynas kai Naytilias. To naytiko atyxhma sth qalassia perioxh toy Aigaioy, poy elabe xwra entos ths ellhnikhs perioxhs ereynas kai diaswshs, poy sympiptei me to FIR Aqhnwn, opws emfanizetai katopin ellhnikhs dhlwsews kai sto sxetiko egxeiridio toy Dieqnoys Organismoy Naytilias, odhghse se kapoies energeies. H Ellada ekane amesws tis aparaithtes energeies. H gewgrafia ths perioxhs, ta mesa poy diaqetei h xwra mas kai h anamfisbhthth empeiria ths sto sygkekrimeno pedio, dhmioyrgoyn tis synqhkes paroxhs yphresiwn plhroys naytikhs ereynas kai diaswshs, opws apodeiknyei allwste h akoloyqoymenh apotelesmatikh praktikh. Ayto epibebaiwqhke kai apo th shmerinh epembash twn ellhnikwn diaswstikwn monadwn. Gia peraiterw leptomereies, qa parakaloysa na apeyqynqeite sta armodia ypoyrgeia.

XIWTHS: Oi plhrofories anaferoyn oti symmeteixe sth diaswsh kai ena toyrkiko elikoptero. Oi ellhnikes arxes poy exoyn thn eyqynh ths diaswshs, eixan enhmerwqei ek twn proterwn h to elikoptero phge mono toy sthn perioxh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia kaqe allh plhroforia, qa sas parakaloysa na apeyqynqeite sta armodia ypoyrgeia.

XIWTHS: Den exei enhmerwqei h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa.

BLAXOS: Einai politiko to qema.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws, kai ta ypoyrgeia politika einai.

BLAXOS: Den afora to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn ayth h istoria;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Hmoyn safhs apo thn arxh sto qema ayto. Sas edwsa mia genikh eikona kai sas parakalesa na apeyqynqeite sta synarmodia ypoyrgeia gia eynohtoys logoys.

KAKALHS: Skopeyei h kybernhsh na krathsei mexri teloys thn anypoxwrhth kai adiallakth stash ths apenanti sta dikaia aithmata twn agrotwn; Den protiqetai na ikanopoihsei kanena apo ta aithmata twn bambakoparagwgwn kai twn allwn paragwgwn-agrotwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H syzhthsh ayth exei ejantlhqei apo thn prohgoymenh ebdomada.

KAKALHS: Dhladh, tipota den dinete.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi elegxoi einai ena epipleon bhma.

SOYGLERHS: Exei kapoia kainoyrgia protash o k. Mpasiakos poy synantatai thn Pempth me toys paragwgoys ths Makedonias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, fantazomai oti qa enhmerwqoyn gia toys peraiterw elegxoys. Den exw kati perissotero ayth th stigmh.

XIWTHS: Opws anakoinwqhke, o logos ths episkechs toy Proedroy ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Papadopoyloy, sthn Aqhna, einai mia episkech ergasias me ton Prwqypoyrgo gia to Kypriako. Yparxoyn nees ejelijeis se ayto to qema poy kaqistoyn anagkaia ayth th synergasia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa exw na sas pw perissotera meta th synanthsh. Ayth th stigmh den exw kati.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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