Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-12-13

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Aqhna, 13 Dekembrioy 2004

APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

O Prwqypoyrgos, opws gnwrizete, anakoinwse xqes thn protash ths Neas Dhmokratias gia thn proedrikh eklogh. Pisteyoyme oti o k. Karolos Papoylias einai to proswpo, to opoio sygkentrwnei ta xarakthristika poy epitassei to pneyma toy Syntagmatos. Einai politiko proswpo me makroxronh qhteia, peira kai gnwseis, alla kai dieqnes kyros apo thn polyeth qhteia toy sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Den einai boyleyths, ara den exei kommatikes desmeyseis. Sth makroxronh politikh toy diadromh exei apodeijei oti syndialegetai me oloys, oti gnwrizei kai na synqetei kai na enwnei.

Pisteyoyme oti o k. Papoylias qa yphrethsei to qesmo toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias kai oloys toys Ellhnes, synexizontas to spoydaio ergo toy shmerinoy Proedroy k. Kwnstantinoy Stefanopoyloy. Qewroyme oti kaname mia swsth kai gennaia epilogh poy synista ena apofasistiko bhma pros ta empros gia thn proodo toy topoy kai toy politikoy mas systhmatos, gia thn empedwsh ths synennohshs kai ths synaineshs sta meizona zhthmata poy aforoyn oloys toys Ellhnes.

Apo thn prwth stigmh eipame oti sto qema toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias den xwroyn kommatikes skopimothtes. Shmera, gia mia akomh fora, apodeiknyoyme to sebasmo mas stoys qesmoys. Apodeiknyoyme oti eimaste synepeis se ayta poy leme, oti h Nea Dhmokratia einai h dynamh poy enwnei toys Ellhnes, einai dynamh proodoy, dynamh sigoyrias, dynamh empistosynhs.

Ek meroys ths kybernhshs, qelw na sygxarw ton k. Aleko Alabano gia thn eklogh toy sth qesh toy Proedroy toy Synaspismoy. Ekfrazoyme tis eilikrineis eyxes mas gia epityxia sto ergo toy kai gia dhmioyrgikh qhteia. O Prwqypoyrgos, opws gnwrizete, apesteile hdh apo xqes sygxarhthrio thlegrafhma sto k. Alabano.

Ayrio, stis 11 to prwi, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me qemata poy aforoyn sto Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn. Qa syzhthqoyn kyriws zhthmata qesmoqethshs porwn gia th Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qelw na rwthsw, ean o Prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs, meta thn anaggelia toy k. Papoylia, exei kapoia allh anakoinwsh, kati allo na mas proteinei aytes tis hmeres.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, to qema toy Proedroy ekleise Ta zhthmata poy aforoyn sthn kaqhmerinothta toy polith briskontai sto kentro ths politikhs mas. Ara, loipon, me ayta qa synexisoyme na asxoloymaste.

TSIODRAS: Se sxesh me th diadikasia ekloghs toy neoy Proedroy, ean qa ejantlhqei h syntagmatikh proqesmia, dhladh an qa exoyme thn eklogh stis arxes Febroyarioy h an qa epispeysqei h diadikasia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den blepw to logo na epispeysqei h diadikasia. O,ti problepei to Syntagma, ayto qa ginei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qelw na rwthsw to ejhs: Den krinw thn epilogh, den dikaioymai allwste. Alla den yphrxan alla proswpa apo to xwro ths kybernhtikhs paratajhs poy qa mporoysan kallista na ikanopoihsoyn to aithma gia synainesh kai synennohsh metajy twn kommatwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me thn erwthsh poy qetete einai san na mhn akoysate tipota apo osa eipe xqes o Prwqypoyrgos, alla ki egw pro oligoy. Ayto to opoio anaferate, to eipe o k. Karamanlhs xqes sth dhlwsh toy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gi` ayto kai einai dieykrinistikh h erwthsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H xqesinh dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy htan safestath. Den exw na prosqesw tipota perissotero.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yphrxan dhladh alla proswpa poy qa mporoysan na ikanopoihsoyn ayta ta aithmata gia synainesh kai synennohsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exei nohma na epanalabete gia trith fora mia erwthsh gia thn opoia qa labete thn idia apanthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Tote na kanw thn erwthsh diaforetika@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Pisteyete oti qa apanthsw diaforetika sthn idia erwthsh;

PALAIOLOGOS: Tote, h synainesh poy afora sto proswpo toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, qa epektaqei kai se alla zhthmata, opws gia paradeigma to qema ths ejwterikhs politikhs enocei toy Symboylioy Koryfhs, to qema ths oikonomias kai to qema toy basikoy metoxoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai zhthmata sta opoia, epishs, anaferqhke o Prwqypoyrgos xqes. Ki egw, apo ayth th qesh, exw milhsei gia ta megala qemata sta opoia ayth h kybernhsh exei epidiwjei kai qa synexisei na epidiwkei thn eyryterh dynath synainesh.

XIWTHS: Symfwna me tis plhrofories poy anagrafontai shmera stis efhmerides, o Prwqypoyrgos den epikoinwnhse me ton Arxhgo ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs gia to zhthma toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. To erwthma moy einai, epeidh yparxoyn kai alla qemata sta opoia epizhtoyn synainesh, toso h Nea Dhmokratia, oso kai to PASOK, protiqetai o Prwqypoyrgos na epikoinwnhsei me ton Proedro toy PASOK gia zhthmata opws ta eqnika qemata, me to Symboylio poy erxetai ayth thn ebdomada, ta zhthmata ths diafaneias k.a.;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, se megala qemata @kai ta eqnika qemata exoyn prwtisto rolo sthn ypoqesh ths synaineshs- o Prwqypoyrgos exei hdh kanei polles kinhseis. Qelw na sas qymisw oti h kybernhsh htan ekeinh poy prwth efere th syzhthsh pro hmerhsias diatajews sth Boylh gia eqnika zhthmata, me aformh to Kypriako kai to Sxedio Anan. Einai h kybernhsh ekeinh h opoia enhmerwse thn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs, dia toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn k. Molybiath. Einai h kybernhsh ekeinh @pali dia toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn k. Molybiath- poy enhmerwse gia oles tis kinhseis sto diasthma poy dietreje -kata to opoio h Nea Dhmokratia einai kybernhsh- oloys toys politikoys Arxhgoys. Yparxei, loipon, mia diaqesh apo thn kybernhsh, h opoia exei fanei kai sthn prajh kai qa synexisei na ginetai prajh: ayth h diaqesh ths enhmerwshs kai ths syzhthshs gia ta megala eqnika qemata. To pws, pote kai poy, den eimai se qesh na sas to pw twra, alla hdh sas anefera mia seira apo gegonota sta opoia exei katagrafei h idia boylhsh.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs, endexetai o Prwqypoyrgos na enhmerwsei, mias kai einai para poly sobarh ayth h Synodos, ton Arxhgo ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs, alla kai toys alloys Arxhgoys gia tis qeseis mas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai me alla logia, opws qa elege kai o synadelfos sas, h idia erwthsh. Thn exw hdh apanthsei.

XONDROS: S` ayto to klima synaineshs, den jerw an yparxei mellon gia thn Ejetastikh Epitroph gia toys ejoplismoys kai kata poson yparxei mellon se ena klima synaineshs gia th systash kai allwn ejetastikwn epitropwn, opws, gia paradeigma, gia to Xrhmatisthrio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H Ejetastikh Epitroph systhqhke katopin twn kataggeliwn poy eixan ginei kai ths eisaggelikhs eishghshs- ekqeshs pros th Boylh, h opoia edeixne oti qa prepei h Boylh na asxolhqei me ena poly shmantiko qema, ayto ths promhqeias oplwn apo to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynhs. H Ejetastikh Epitroph synexizei to ergo ths. Qa to oloklhrwsei, elpizw syntoma. Oi Ellhnes polites qa einai se qesh na gnwrizoyn ta apotelesmata ths ereynas, fantazomai ws ta mesa toy Ianoyarioy.

ARMENHS: Giati o Prwqypoyrgos anakoinwse xqes thn protash toy gia thn Proedria ths Dhmokratias kai oxi meta apo mia ebdomada h prin apo mia ebdomada;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai san na me rwtate ``giati kyberna''.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mia merida toy Typoy kanei shmera thn ektimhsh oti h kybernhsh sas fobhqhke kai oti den hqele na paei se ekloges, prokeimenoy na mhn katagrafei, en pash periptwsei, mia fqora se poly syntomo xroniko diasthma. Fobhqhkate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai alhqeia oti ``tremoyme'' to gegonos pws 8 @ 9 mhnes meta tis ekloges, anti na exei meiwqei h diafora me to PASOK, ayjanetai symfwna me tis dhmoskophseis.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Ma den tis sxoliazete tis dhmoskophseis@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws. Kanw mia ejairesh, opws qa elege kai o Mpertolnt Mprext.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ektimate oti to PASOK apo to 1996 kai meta den eixe timhsei oso qa eprepe ton k. Karolo Papoylia; Kaq` oti ayth th stigmh o Prwqypoyrgos kanei mia kinhsh pros to patriwtiko kai koinwniko PASOK ths dekaetias toy `80.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthste to PASOK gi` ayto. Den mporw na sas apanthsw egw.

RABANOS: Mesa s` ayto to klima synaineshs, protiqetai h kybernhsh na analabei kapoies qesmikes prwtoboylies, oson afora to apokaloymeno ``politiko xrhma'' kai eidika to plaisio poy afora th xrhmatodothsh twn kommatwn kai to poqen esxes twn politikwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: An qymaste, prin apo 10 hmeres syzhthsame s` aythn edw thn aiqoysa oti to ``politiko xrhma'' apotelei ena apo ta zhthmata poy apasxoloyn thn kybernhsh. Aptetai ths diafaneias. Se zhthmata diafaneias, gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyme analabei prwtoboylia me mia seira drasewn kai nomoqethmatwn. O Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn epejergazetai, hdh, ena sxedio. Pisteyw oti syntoma qa einai se qesh na to syzhthsei kai me ta ypoloipa kommata, wste na proxwrhsoyme, ei dynaton apo koinoy, sthn antimetwpish problhmatwn, ta opoia exoyn anakycei sto diatrejan diasthma. Giati gnwrizete poly kala oti ta politika proswpa kataqetoyn ``poqen esxes'' poy elegxetai apo armodia yphresia ths Boylhs.

PALAIOLOGOS: O k. Papoylias yphrje ena apo ta istorika stelexh toy PASOK me poly megalh peira, alla, wstoso yparxoyn orismena stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias poy diafwnoyn me thn epilogh, protassontas ws epixeirhma to gegonos oti telika to PASOK dikaiwnetai me thn epilogh ayth, estw meta apo 20 xronia. Ti apantate stoys dikoys sas chfoforoys h sta dika sas stelexh, sth dikh sas bash, sxetika me ayto to zhthma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den akoysa kapoio stelexos na pei ayto to opoio lete.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Yparxei gkrinia sth bash, kyrie Ypoyrge.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den nomizw oti exete dikio. Qa me kanete, gia deyterh fora, na parabw ton kanona poy leei ``den sxoliazw dhmoskophseis''. Eida xqes, se mia poly grhgorh proseggish dhmoskophsewn, pososto anw toy 85% toy kosmoy, na tiqetai yper ths epiloghs Papoylia. Den qa janasxoliasw dhmoskophseis gia poly kairo.

IWANNOY: To 85% toy kosmoy ths Neas Dhmokratias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Synolika, toy kosmoy.

POYLIDOY: Ton k. Tragka ton exete akoysei;

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge h Synodos Koryfhs einai pleon poly konta kai h Toyrkia synexizei na einai ametakinhth apo th qesh ths, idiaitera sto qema ths anagnwrishs ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias. Yparxei ena tetarto prosxedio symperasmatwn sto opoio den allazei tipota sthn oysia. Dierwtwmai an h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs paramenei h idia h en pash periptwsei analoga me th toyrkikh qesh qa allajei kai h qesh ths Ellados, toylaxiston s` ayta ta zhthmata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H diapragmateysh einai synqeth kai dyskolh. H Ellada qa synexisei tis diapragmateytikes energeies ths gia th diamorfwsh toy kalyteroy dynatoy keimenoy sth Synodo Koryfhs twn Bryjellwn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Mporei na metakinhqei dhladh h kybernhsh, h Ellada.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Synexizoyme tis diapragmateyseis. H genikh politikh kateyqynsh gia thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias exei anaferqei polles fores apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai den allazei.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge mas bazete se peirasmoys sxoliazontas dhmoskophseis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto espeysa na pw oti den qa janasxoliasw tipota gia poly kairo. Meta apo 4,5 xronia moy epitrepetai na kanw mia ejairesh.

XIWTHS: Stis idies dhmoskophseis poy katagrafetai h eyreia apodoxh toy ypochfioy poy proteine h kybernhsh, katagrafetai kai mia eyreia dysareskeia ths koinhs gnwmhs gia toys argoys ryqmoys toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Qa hqela na rwthsw an meta thn apeleyqerwsh ths kybernhshs gia prwth fora ston ena xrono, apo th synainetikh eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, qa allajei kai h kybernhtikh politikh kai qa ginei pio epiqetikh kai an qa mpei ston peirasmo kai h kybernhsh me th seira ths na diorqwsei tis ateleies poy yparxoyn sto kybernhtiko sxhma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi ryqmoi mias kybernhshs krinontai sigoyra apo thn kaqhmerinothta. Alla strathgika krinontai se baqos xronoy, giati mono se baqos xronoy mporei kaneis na krinei to apotelesma. To apotelesma einai mexri stigmhs qetiko se para polla apo ta zhthmata me ta opoia exei asxolhqei h kybernhsh. Se mikro xroniko diasthma, malista, exoyn ginei polla perissotera apo oti qa fantazontoysan kai oi ``kalyteroi filoi mas''. Isws einai kai ayto poy enoxlei.

XIWTHS: Den sxoliasate kaqoloy tis ateleies poy parathroyntai sto kybernhtiko sxhma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi kata th gnwmh sas ateleies sto kybernhtiko sxhma, efoson yfistantai, den exoyn toylaxiston mexri stigmhs deijei oti dhmioyrgoyn to opoiodhpote problhma ston ellhna polith. H kybernhsh einai nea. Exei prospaqhsei para poly, exei epityxei polla pragmata, arxhs genomenhs apo th megalh epityxia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn sthn opoia eixe idiaitera shmantikh symbolh. H kybernhsh exei kanei prajh tis perissoteres apo tis qesmikes desmeyseis ths. Exei kanei prajh polla apo ta opoia yposxeqhke proeklogika: Apo to zhthma twn symbasioyxwn, poy einai ena poly shmantiko qema, mexri zhthmata poy aforoyn ston tropo ekdoshs mias syntajhs sto IKA. Epishs zhthmata poy aforoyn sthn kaqhmerinothta toy polith. Qa synexisei na beltiwnetai. Sth zwh kaqe mera prepei kaneis na beltiwnetai. Se oti afora sth dhmoskophsh, paw ``n`agiasw'' kai den m` afhnete. Dioti opws exw janapei mporei na probalei kapoios epilektika opoia stoixeia qelei kai na mhn probalei alla poy einai ejisoy endiaferonta.

PEPONHS: Qa kataqesete shmera to nomosxedio gia to basiko metoxo opws eixate anakoinwsei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To nomosxedio gia to basiko metoxo brisketai hdh sth Genikh Grammateia ths kybernhshs. Akoloyqei h nomoparaskeyastikh diadikasia apo thn kentrikh nomoparaskeyastikh epitroph ths Boylhs. Ayrio to prwi akoloyqei h oikonomotexnikh meleth toy Genikoy Logisthrioy toy Kratoys. Sth synexeia qa proxwrhsei symfwna me ton kanonismo ths Boylhs. Ektimw oti entos toy Ianoyarioy qa exei chfistei.

IWANNOY:Kyrie Ypoyrge, twra poy ekleise to qema toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias kai me bash thn prohgoymenh apanthsh sas gia tis opoies ateleies yparxoyn, apokleiete to endexomeno anasxhmatismoy, megaloy h mikroy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto einai ena qema poy afora ton Prwqypoyrgo kai mono.

POYLIDOY: Dhladh, den jerete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa: Einai ena qema to opoio afora ton Prwqypoyrgo kai mono.

POYLIDOY: Epeidh exete mia gnwrimia me ton Prwqypoyrgo, leme mhpws mas peite. Gi` ayto rwtame.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, na rwthsw kati. Mporeite na mas peite sto fair play to dhmosiografiko, poios emaqe prwtos to onoma toy k. Papoylia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prwtos apo poioys;

SOYGLERHS: Apo sas..

ROYSOPOYLOS: O idios, o k. Papoylias.

SOYGLERHS: Ennow apo thn kybernhsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Einai ena eylogo erwthma to opoio apasxolei. Yparxei pragmati shmera synainesh sta eqnika qemata; Dioti akoygontas kapoios ton k. Papandreoy stis omilies toy sta synedria k.lp., dinei thn aisqhsh oti epikrinei synexws thn kybernhsh gia mh kalo xeirismo twn eqnikwn mas qematwn. Epomenws, mporei kaneis na ypoqesei oti yparxei shmera synainesh sta eqnika qemata h oxi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa moy epitrecete na sas pw th qesh ths Neas Dhmokratias kai ws komma ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs poy yphrje, alla kai ws kybernhsh: Apodeijame sthn prajh oti epiqymoyme kai epidiwkoyme th synainesh sta eqnika qemata. Yphrjan polles periptwseis, opoy o Kwstas Karamanlhs, ws arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs, sthrije epiloges poy aforoyn ta eqnika qemata kai malista dhmosiws apo toy bhmatos ths Boylhs, me dhlwseis toy kai me draseis toy. Mia apo tis xarakthristikoteres periptwseis htan h ypoqesh toy eyrwstratoy. Synomilhse me para polloys hgetes kai Ypoyrgoys Ejwterikwn ana thn Eyrwph kai tis Hnwmenes Politeies. Sas qymisw oti tote eixe mia synanthsh me ton Proedro Mpoys. Emeis, loipon, ennooyme th synainesh oxi mono sta logia, alla kai sthn prajh. Apomenei sto PASOK na labei tis apofaseis toy kai tis safeis qeseis toy se sxesh me ayta ta zhthmata. Einai zhthmata poy den aforoyn mia kommatikh antiparaqesh. Yparxei eyry pedio kommatikhs antiparaqeshs. Ta eqnika qemata aforoyn thn istoria kai to mellon toy topoy. Epiqymoyme @den symboyleyoyme kanenan- thn eyryterh dynath synainesh.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, synainetikh lysh den qa mporoyse na breqei kai apo to xwro ths Neas Dhmokratias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei apanthsei o Prwqypoyrgos apo xqes. Apanthsa ki egw prin apo ligo.

ROYMELIWTHS: Giati den egine ayto; Pisteyete oti qa htan toso megalo risko;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa pw tipote perissotero ap` ayta poy eipe xqes o Prwqypoyrgos.

Eyxaristw poly.

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