Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-12-03

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Aqhna, 3 Dekembrioy 2004

APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio stis 11 to prwi, qa milhsei sthn Kentrikh Epitroph ths Neas Dhmokratias.

Thn Trith (7/12) stis 10.30 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy me ton Proedreyonta ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs Ollando Prwqypoyrgo k. Gian Peter Mpalkenente.

O Prwqypoyrgos qa pragmatopoihsei epishmh episkech sth Rwsikh Omospondia apo tis 7 ews tis 9 Dekembrioy.

To programma ths episkechs perilambanei synomilies me ton Proedro ths Rwsikhs Omospondias k. Bladimir Poytin, gia ena eyry fasma zhthmatwn dimerwn sxesewn kai epikairwn dieqnwn problhmatwn amoibaioy endiaferontos.

Programmatizontai, epishs, synomilies me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Rwsikhs Omospondias k. Frankof, me ton Proedro toy Symboylioy Omospondias ths Omospondiakhs Syneleyshs ths Rwsikhs Omospondias k. Mironof, me to Dhmarxo ths Mosxas k. Loyskof, me ton Patriarxh Alejio ton B@. Epishs, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh kai me omogeneis sth Mosxa.

Me th lhjh twn synomiliwn problepetai h ypografh mias seiras dimerwn symfwniwn.

H episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Rwsia apotelei shmantiko staqmo sth makra poreia twn filikwn sxesewn twn dyo xwrwn. Stoxeyei sthn peraiterw dieyrynsh twn dimerwn sxesewn pros ofelos twn dyo xwrwn kai twn politwn toys.

H xwra mas sthrizei energws thn proseggish ths Rwsikhs Omospondias me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, ths opoias h Rwsia einai strathgikos etairos. Epipleon, ypo to fws ths prosfaths ekloghs ths Elladas ws enos ek twn mh monimwn melwn toy Symboylioy Asfaleias twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, prosblepei sth synergasia me th Rwsia, opws kai me ta loipa krath-melh toy Symboylioy Asfaleias epi qematwn ta opoia apasxoloyn th dieqnh koinothta.

Kata thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy qa ginei ektimhsh ths mexri shmera synergasias Elladas-Rwsias, toso dimerws, oso kai se perifereiako epipedo. Epipleon, opws eipa, qa ypografei seira symfwniwn kai keimenwn, opoy qa katagrafontai oi tomeis epi twn opoiwn h synergasia ayth qa enisxyqei peraiterw.

Endeiktika anaferetai to koino programma drashs @keimeno me eyrytath qematikh- to opoio problepei politiko dialogo epi seira zhthmatwn, alla kai synergasia stoys tomeis, metajy allwn, ths Oikonomias, toy Emporioy, twn Metaforwn, twn Thlepikoinwniwn, ths Biomhxanias, ths Energeias kai ths synergasias ston Amyntiko Tomea kai eidikotera ston tomea twn ejoplismwn.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, prin apo ligo egine gnwsto oti o Dhmos Skopiwn apofasise na ftiajei to agalma toy Megaloy Alejandroy kai toy Ioystinianoy sta Skopia kai sto Monasthri toy Filippoy. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ayto to opoio moy anaferete. H istoria pantws -opws exw janapei- den grafetai tyxaia, oyte apo grafeiokrates, oyte basei apofasewn kapoiwn dhmotikwn symboyliwn.

TSIODRAS: Dyo erwthseis: H prwth, sxetika me th synergasia ston Tomea twn ejoplismwn, an afora kai ayth th diakratikh symfwnia gia thn eggyhsh poy den eixe doqei, toys TOR-M1, oles aytes tis ekkremothtes. Kai h deyterh einai sxetika me to zhthma twn eklogwn. O Prwqypoyrgos feretai na eipe oti den einai stoxos moy oi ekloges. Ayto shmainei oti den tis apokleiei kiolas. Den apokleiei na ginoyn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora sto deytero erwthma sas exw hdh apanthsei palaiotera. Isxyei ayth h apanthsh. Gia to prwto, qelw na shmeiwsw oti einai dyo qemata diakrita metajy toys. Kat` arxas, o Prwqypoyrgos qa pragmatopoihsei mia poly shmantikh episkech sth Rwsia, me thn opoia mas syndeoyn makroxronioi desmoi filias. Ayto einai to prwto qema kai afora sto klima twn sxesewn metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Ta peri ejoplistikwn aforoyn se mia eswterikh diadikasia sth xwra mas. Mia eswterikh diadikasia toy politikoy kosmoy ths xwras, o opoios proekrine th systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, prokeimenoy na diereynhqoyn paratypies stis diadikasies promhqeias ejoplistikwn systhmatwn. Me ayth th logikh den yfistantai paragontes poy qa mporoysan na skiasoyn me opoiodhpote tropo thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Rwsia.

TSIODRAS: Oxi, qa mporoyse, omws, na ypografei diakratikh symfwnia, ypoqetw. Ayto den skiazei tis sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn. Einai mia ekkremothta h opoia nomizw oti qa hre ta opoia problhmata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ginontai energeies me safh kateyqynsh kai me to ti akribws ennoeitai dieqnws, ws nomiko keimeno, h legomenh kratikh eggyhsh.

TSIODRAS: Sxetika me tis ekloges, mporeite na moy janaepanalabete th qesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Thn exw hdh pei polles fores.

TSIODRAS: Allh mia den nomizw oti qa sas koyraze. Qa mas ebgaze kai apo@

GARGALAKOS: Exw dyo erwthseis: H mia einai an skeptetai o Prwqypoyrgos na epitaxynei tis ejelijeis se o,ti afora sthn proedrikh eklogh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto to opoio rwtate exei ena xroniko oroshmo poy qewrhtikws qa eprepe na eixe teqei apo thn kybernhsh, wste na mporei kaneis na symperanei an qa epitaxynei h oxi tis ejelijeis. To Syntagma problepei ayto to xroniko oroshmo. Sas exw hdh apanthsei polles fores oti h kybernhsh qewrei, akomh, prowro to qema.

GARGALAKOS: Epeidh to exoyn zhthsei kai ypoyrgoi na lyqei to qema entos toy Dekembrioy, gi` ayto rwtaw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyn akoystei polles apoceis. O Prwqypoyrgos qa labei tis apofaseis toy, otan aytos krinei.

GARGALAKOS: O k. Mhtsotakhs shmera zhtaei na antimetwpistei to Asfalistiko kai oti einai epeigoysa anagkh na lyqei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete oti den sxoliazw dhlwseis toy epitimoy Proedroy ths Neas Dhmokratias. Gia to Asfalistiko, pantws, proxqes, edw, ekana mia ektenestath analysh.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eiste o stenoteros synergaths toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy. Qelete na mas peite me poio tropo kai pote @an mporeite, an jerete- qa anakoinwsei to proswpo toy ypochfioy Proedroy o k. Karamanlhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oloi oi ypoyrgoi einai stenoi synergates toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Se o,ti afora sto deytero erwthma sas, molis apanthsa.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Enocei ths diadhlwshs Boreiohpeirwtwn, thn erxomenh ebdomada oi zhtoyn na apokthsoyn thn ellhnikh yphkoothta, yparxei kapoia allagh sth qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai ejeidikeymeno to erwthma sas. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sta ypoyrgeia Ejwterikwn kai Eswterikwn.

PAPADOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh ekfrazei thn ikanopoihsh ths apo thn anakoinwsh-sthrijh ths Oyasigkton gia to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H dhlwsh ayth aphxei tis apoceis poy exei ekfrasei kai h shmerinh, alla kai h prohgoymenh kybernhsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sth Rwsia o Prwqypoyrgos qa qesei ta qemata ejwterikhs politikhs kai to qema ths entajiakhs poreias ths Toyrkias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa syzhthqoyn ola ta qemata dimeroys endiaferontos kai qemata poy aforoyn sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai th Rwsia. Den apokleietai na ginei kapoia anafora kai sto qema ayto.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: O k. Abramopoylos, xqes ston ALPHA, sxetika me to Patriarxeio, eipe oti einai bebaio oti to Patriarxeio exei thn aperioristh yposthrijh ths Politeias, einai o faros ths Orqodojias, alla se kamia periptwsh den prepei na afhsoyme ta pragmata na ejelixqoyn s` ena megalo laqos. Dhladh, to qema toy Patriarxeioy na apotelesei meros toy genikoteroy plaisioy twn zhthmatwn poy exoyme na antimetwpisoyme me th geitonikh xwra. Symfwneite m` ayto to sxolio toy k. Abramopoyloy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: An antilambanomai swsta ayto poy diabasate, afora se ena apo ta qemata, poy apasxolei thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. O sebasmos twn qrhskeytikwn eleyqeriwn apotelei qemeliwdh proypoqesh gia thn entajh mias xwras sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

KOYIN: Exei enoxlhsei kaqoloy thn kybernhsh poy enw h Ellada yposthrizei thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias, ginontai oles aytes oi energeies apo thn Toyrkia tis teleytaies ebdomades;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se poies anafereste sygkekrimena;

KOYIN: Parabiaseis, Patriarxeio, dhlwseis peri Xalkhs@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas ypenqymizw mia dhlwsh poy eixa kanei prin apo peripoy dyo mhnes kai thn epanelaba prin apo liges hmeres: Yparxoyn energeies poy den bohqoyn sth diathrhsh enos kaloy klimatos metajy twn dyo xwrwn, kati to opoio epiqymoyme. Opws exei dhlwqei epishmws kai apo ton Toyrko Prwqypoyrgo, to idio epiqymei kai ekeinos.

KAKALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos, xqes, stoys syntajioyxoys epikalesthke tis antoxes ths oikonomias, prokeimenoy na mh dwsei peraiterw ayjhseis. Omws, ayto to epixeirhma to eixan akoysei dekades fores kai apo toys prohgoymenos kybernwntes, alla h katastash twn syntajioyxwn exei xeiroterecei. Pws ejhgeite omws oti antexei h oikonomia gia na doqei 1 tris eyrw me th meiwsh twn forologikwn syntelestwn se ETE, AE kai EPE h na doqoyn 1,2 dis gia tis kameres parakoloyqhshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora stis kameres poy bohqoyn sthn parakoloyqhsh ths kykloforias, prokeitai gia ena qema poy exei antimetwpistei edw kai poly kairo -metajy allwn- gia thn olympiakh proetoimasia. Oses ap` aytes xrhsimopoihqoyn -kai me thn adeia bebaiws ths Arxhs Prostasias Proswpikwn Dedomenwn- qa einai gia thn parakoloyqhsh ths kykloforias, gia th beltiwsh ths sthn Aqhna kai th megalyterh dynath asfalh metakinhsh stis eqnikes odoys. Oson afora sto qema twn syntajioyxwn einai dedomenh h eyaisqhsia me thn opoia to proseggizei ayth h kybernhsh. H prwth kinhsh poy egine meta thn analhch ths diakybernhshs ths xwras apo th Nea Dhmokratia, aforoyse stoys syntajioyxoys kai thn apallagh enos foroy poy eixe epiblhqei polla xronia prin kai o opoios qa eprepe na eixe apaleifqei -epishs polla xronia prin- apo thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh. H koinwnikh eyaisqhsia fysika den ejantleitai mono s` ayto to metro. Qa yparjoyn kai alla metra. H koinwnikh eyaisqhsia enos politikoy hgeth apotypwnetai kai sto kata poson teinei eyhkoon oys sta problhmata poy exoyn oi koinwnikes omades. Ayto fanhke xqes apo th mh programmatismenh syzhthsh poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me toys syntajioyxoys, otan ekeinoi zhthsan na synanthqoyn mazi toy. Den qelw na anaferqw se alles periptwseis sto parelqon, otan oi syntajioyxoi zhtoysan na doyn ton Prwqypoyrgo sto Megaro Majimoy.

GKOYTZANHS: Mia dhmoskophsh poy dhmosieyetai shmera, deixnei oti oi polites den einai kai toso ikanopoihmenoi apo thn ylopoihsh twn ejaggeliwn ths kybernhshs. Pws to sxoliazete ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete oti den sxoliazw dhmoskophseis, edw kai polla xronia. Wstoso, qa moy epitrecete na shmeiwsw oti h epilektikh dhmosiopoihsh kapoiwn stoixeiwn, oysiastika parapoiei thn idia th dhmoskophsh. Milame gia mia dhmoskophsh poy diejhxqh ton Oktwbrio kai dhmosiopoihqhke gia prwth fora thn 1h Noembrioy. Ara den einai neo stoixeio. Milame, epishs, gia parasiwphsh toy shmantikoteroy stoixeioy s` ayth th dhmoskophsh, poy afora sth diafora metajy Neas Dhmokratias kai PASOK, h opoia exei yperbei th diafora twn eqnikwn eklogwn. Katagrafetai, dhladh, panw apo 6%. H epilektikh, loipon, probolh stoixeiwn me stoxo na plhgei h eikona ths kybernhshs, einai kati to opoio antilambanomai ws antipoliteytikh taktikh, kai ektos toy plaisioy ths dhmosiografikhs deontologias, h opoia epiballei na akoygontai oles oi apoceis. Na mhn perikoptontai kata to dokoyn kai kata pws boleyei orismenoys ayta ta stoixeia.

KAKALHS: Lete, dhladh, oti den sas endiaferei h koinwnikh dysareskeia sto baqmo poy paramenei h diafora anamesa sth N.D. kai to PASOK;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Molis ekana mia analysh gia thn koinwnikh eyaisqhsia ayths ths kybernhshs, h opoia apotypwnetai stis politikes kai tis praktikes ths. H analysh ayth katateinei sto akribws antiqeto symperasma, apo ayto poy bgalate. Lew oti an kapoios qelei na xeiragwghsei thn koinh gnwmh -eite einai sthn politikh, eite sth dhmosiografia- o pio aplos tropos einai na apokrycei stoixeia. En prokeimenw, apokryptontai shmantika stoixeia, wste na problhqoyn alla -ta opoia den lew oti den einai shmantika- alla omws dinoyn th mish eikona.

SIDERHS: Mia kai milate gia koinwnikh eyaisqhsia. O k. Panos Panagiwtopoylos xqes htan arketa eyaisqhtos sto qema twn ofeiletwn toy IKA. Ti mhnyma dinei h kybernhsh pros ta ejw; Mporeite na mhn eiste entajei stis ypoxrewseis sas sto IKA h se opoiondhpote allo asfalistiko tameio kai qa erqei enas laikisths ypoyrgos poy qa sas eynohsei; Giati na plhrwnoyn oi ypoloipoi, na einai ta koroida ths ypoqeshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat` arxas, profanws sas exei diafygei ths prosoxhs oti edw kai ennea mhnes einai kybernhsh h N.D., h opoia den diaqetei laikistes ypoyrgoys.

SIDERHS: Einai h proswpikh sas apoch.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Deyteron, h politikh eyaisqhsia apotypwnetai me polloys tropoys, opws ejalloy kai o sebasmos toy dhmosioy xrhmatos. Oi ryqmiseis poy ginontai wfeloyn thn eqnikh oikonomia, wfeloyn to IKA.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exete pei oti h kybernhsh den ``anoigei'' to asfalistiko. Pws qa xarakthrizate th syzhthsh poy brisketai se ejelijh olo ayto to diasthma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Giati na th xarakthrisw, afoy exw topoqethqei safws sto qema;

GKOYTZANHS: Pantws, den synista anoigma toy asfalistikoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, bebaia.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ta problhmata ths kaqhmerinothtas qa breqoyn sto epikentro ths kybernhtikhs politikhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan lete ``qa breqoyn'', ypainisseste oti den exoyn breqei mexri twra. Exoyme teleiws diaforetikh antilhch. Briskontai sto epikentro ths kaqhmerinhs politikhs praktikhs ths kybernhshs, toso sth Boylh, h opoia nomoqetei, oso kai stis apofaseis poy lambanontai apo toys ypoyrgoys.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mporeite na mas peite o Proedros ths Dhmokratias qa einai andras h gynaika;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parakalw, allh erwthsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mexri prin apo liges ebdomades, h qesh ths Elladas oson afora thn entajiakh poreia ths Toyrkias htan kaqeth. Peripoy, den ebaze kai kan oroys. To teleytaio diasthma, akoygontas ton k. Molybiath, poy episkeptetai tis eyrwpaikes prwteyoyses, san na yparxei mia diaforopoihsh ths qeshs ths Elladas, kaqws plhsiazoyme sthn 17h Dekembrioy. Yparxei pragmati diaforopoihsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Molybiaths me th makra empeiria toy, alla kai th gnwsh toy ekfrazei tis apoceis ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Menw se ayta poy exei pei. Den qa sxoliasw tipote peraiterw.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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