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Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-11-19

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 19 Noembrioy 2004

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei se ligo gia thn Hpeiro, opoy qa pragmatopoihsei dihmerh episkech.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Gkioyl dhlwse oti h Agkyra den prokeitai na anagnwrisei thn Kypro akomh kai an h Leykwsia apeilhsei na mplokarei me veto thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias. Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh tis dhlwseis toy k. Gkioyl;

ANTWNAROS: H mh anagnwrish mias xwras-meloys apo ena ypochfio kratos-melos apotelei politiko kai qesmiko paralogo. Ena tetoio paralogo den mporei na staqei sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ayto to lambanei ypoch kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh, k. Ekproswpe, kai piqanws na allajei thn arxikh qesh ths, thn opoia exei ekfrasei epishmws;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh kanei toys aparaithtoys xeirismoys, oi opoioi ginontai sta plaisia mias diapragmateytikhs taktikhs, thn opoia akribws epeidh brisketai se ejelijh den prokeitai na sxoliasw.

SIDERHS: O ``dear George'' den eixe eidopoihsei ton Prwqypoyrgo gia to ti protiqeto na kanei, kata th synanthsh toy sthn Oyasigkton, se sxesh me th legomenh ``Makedonia'';

ANTWNAROS: Ti ennoeite akribws;

SIDERHS: Qelw na pw, apo thn epistolh toy Amerikanoy Proedroy fainetai oti eixan syzhthsei gia to qema. Enhmerwqhke gia tis proqeseis toy;

ANTWNAROS: Poio qema ennoeite;

SIDERHS: Anaferomai sthn epistolh Mpoys pros ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo.

ANTWNAROS: Ayto to jerw. Alla, se poio qema akribws anafereste;

SIDERHS: Gia ta Skopia.

ANTWNAROS: Eipe kaneis oti den to eixan syzhthsei;

SIDERHS: Eixe enhmerwqei gia to ti protiqeto na kanei;

ANTWNAROS: O Proedros twn HPA kai o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos syzhthsan to qema twn Skopiwn. Ayto leei kai o k. Mpoys sthn epistolh toy. Parakalw na th diabasete prosektika.

SIDERHS: Th diabasame kai rwtaw: Enhmerwqhke o Prwqypoyrgos oti eprokeito na kanei ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

SIDERHS: Noiwqei prosbeblhmenos o Prwqypoyrgos poy den enhmerwqhke, afoy eixan syzhthsei;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

SIDERHS: Kai kati allo: H Agkyra zhthse na enhmerwqei gia to ti egine ston Exino;

ANTWNAROS: H Agkyra zhthse na enhmerwqei gia to symban ston Exino, to opoio sas epanalambanw htan ena memonwmeno peristatiko, xwris politikes proektaseis.

SIDERHS: Anarwthqhke h kybernhsh kai to diemhnyse sthn Agkyra me poio dikaiwma parembainei sta ellhnika eswterika qemata; Giati, aytoi oi anqrwpoi ekei panw einai Ellhnes polites.

ANTWNAROS: To sygkekrimeno aithma gia enhmerwsh den pisteyoyme oti apotelei parembash sta eswterika ths xwras.

KWNSTANTAKOPOYLOS: Ikanopoihqhke to aithma, k. Ekproswpe;

ANTWNAROS: Fantazomai oti dia ths diplwmatikhs odoy qa doqoyn oi plhrofories oi opoies zhtoyntai. Aytes, allwste, tis plhrofories tis dinoyme emeis kai dhmosia. Opws gnwrizete den yparxei tipote kryfo, to opoio den exei perielqei se gnwsh ths toyrkikhs pleyras.

XIDIROGLOY: Oi ypeyqynoi twn biaiopragiwn ston Exino qa timwrhqoyn, k. Ekproswpe;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw, na apeyqynqeite stis dikastikes Arxes. Den einai qema ths kybernhshs.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pws sxoliazete thn proqesh ths Albanias na anagnwrisei ta Skopia me to onoma ``Dhmokratia ths Makedonias''; Xqes, ekfrasthke mia apoch apo ton Proedro ths Albanias.

ANTWNAROS: Oi apofaseis kratwn krinontai otan pragmatopoioyntai. Den sxoliazoyme proqeseis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Prepei na eimaste Promhqeis kai oxi Epimhqeis.

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazoyme proqeseis.

IWANNOY: Qa kanoyme kati gia na diereynhsoyme tis proqeseis toys kai endexomenws na to apotrecoyme; Dhladh, h kybernhsh qa kinhqei pros kapoia kateyqynsh prin anakoinwqei;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh ejwterikh politikh opote xreiazetai probainei se oles tis apaitoymenes kinhseis.

KWNSTANTAKOPOYLOS: Xarakthrisate poly energo thn ellhnikh ejwterikh politikh. Epi dyo mhnes ginontai parabiaseis toy ellhnikoy enaerioy xwroy apo thn toyrkikh aeroporia kai para tis dhlwseis poy kanete kai o k. Molybiaths kai eseis kai o k. Koymoytsakos kai para th synanthsh me thn toyrkikh hgesia thn perasmenh Paraskeyh sthn khdeia toy Arafat sto Kairo ejakoloyqoyn adiataraxtes. Xqes eixame sto kentriko Aigaio, shmera eixame sto boreio kai den jerw an yparxei statistikh patenta se poia perioxh kai poies meres ths ebdomados qa ginontai parabiaseis. Ayto den anhsyxei thn kybernhsh; Me poia ajiopistia qa diapragmateytei ayrio me thn Toyrkia;

ANTWNAROS: Se kamia periptwsh den prokeitai na anaferqw stis diapragmateyseis kai toys xeirismoys poy kanei h ellhnikh kybernhsh en ocei ths 17hs Dekembrioy.

KWNSTANTAKOPOYLOS: O ellhnikos laos den exei dikaiwma na plhroforhqei ti ginetai me ton enaerio xwro kai thn kyriarxia ths xwras;

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws. Opws gnwrizete, omws, oi parabiaseis kai oi parabaseis, se sxesh me persi ejakoloyqoyn na einai meiwmenes, symfwna me ta stoixeia poy dinei to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs @Amynas.

MIXAHL: Sxetika me thn epistolh toy k. Mpoys, opws mas eipate, syzhthsan me ton Prwqypoyrgo, alla den enhmerwqhke o Prwqypoyrgos gia thn apofash twn HPA.

ANTWNAROS: Den yphrxe tote tetoia apofash.

MIXAHL: Mporeite na mas peite ti syzhthse o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Mpoys to Maio sthn Oyasingkton;

ANTWNAROS: Sas diabazw to thlegrafhma toy APE stis 21 Maioy apo thn Oyasingkton, poy anaferei epi lejei to ejhs: ``Epishs o Amerikanos Proedros rwthse ton k. Karamanlh gia to qema twn Skopiwn kai an qa yparxoyn ejelijeis. O @Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos apanthse oti briskontai se ejelijh syzhthseis ston OHE, shmeiwnontas oti einai poly eyaisqhto qema gia thn Ellada''.

MIXAHL: Dhladh apo thn apanthsh sas na symperanw pws para to gegonos oti h amerikanikh pleyra eqese to qema o k. Karamanlhs edwse thn apanthsh poy mas diabasate kai to qema emeine ekei. Den proxwrhse, den egine tipote allo.

ANTWNAROS: Oi dhmosiografoi poy synodeyan ton k. Karamanlh eixan ginei dektes pollwn enhmerwsewn.

MIXAHL: Me dedomeno oti o k. Mpoys eipe ston k. Karamanlh ayto poy eipe kai o k. Karamanlhs apanthse ayto poy apanthse. Mporeite na mas peite apo to Maio me dedomenh pleon thn amerikanikh proqesh oti kati prepei na ginei me to qema;

ANTWNAROS: Ayta k. Mixahl ``ta dedomena'' klp einai dika sas symperasmata.

MIXAHL: Dedomeno den einai otan leei o k. Mpoys oti egw to eipa;

ANTWNAROS: Ti eipe;

MIXAHL: Na syzhthsoyn to Skopiano.

ANTWNAROS: Eipate me dedomenh thn proqesh. Egw den diakrinw kamia proqesh.

MIXAHL: Proqesh twn HPA einai na syzhthsoyn. Den eipa ti qa ekanan tote. Exoyme enan Prwqypoyrgo poy akoyei apo ton k. Mpoys na toy leei na syzhthsoyme to Skopiano. Kai apantaei o Prwqypoyrgos, einai eyaisqhto qema, afhste to. Kai rwtw, ti kanate eseis;

ANTWNAROS: Ayta poy lete einai ayqairetes dikes sas diatypwseis. Den prokyptoyn apo poyqena.

MIXAHL: Einai aplo to pragma. O k. Mpoys leei: Otan eida ton k. Karamanlh, toy eqesa to qema twn Skopiwn. Den jeroyme ti toy eqese. O k. Karamanlhs apanthse opws mas diabasate oti einai ena eyaisqhto qema gia thn Ellada kai ginontai diapragmateyseis. Meta th synanthsh ayth, kata thn epistrofh kai tis epomenes meres ti sygkekrimena ekane h kybernhsh, exontas pia ypoch ths oti o k. Mpoys eipe ti qa ginei me to qema. Ayto rwtw.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa egw oti erwthse o k. Mpoys ti qa ginei me to qema;

MIXAHL: Eqijan to qema twn Skopiwn. Ti kanate apo kei kai pera; Enas nohmwn qa elege: afoy me rwtane oi amerikanoi ti kanoyme me ta Skopia; Apanthse oti apanthse apo kei kai pera kati prepei na kanw.

ANTWNAROS: Profanws den exete parakoloyqhsei toys xeirismoys poy ekane h ellhnikh politikh hgesia. Den qa toys apariqmhsw twra. Sto qema exoyme anaferqei toso o k. Koymoytsakos oso kai egw, thn teleytaia ebdomada epaneilhmmenws.

TSIODRAS: O k. Mpoys leei sthn epistolh toy ``antilambanomai oti h apofash mas na anagnwrisoyme th Makedonia, me to syntagmatiko ths onoma, dhmioyrghse shmantikh antiparaqesh sthn Ellada. Kata th diarkeia twn idiwtikwn synomiliwn ston Leyko Oiko, ton perasmeno Maio, ejetasame ayto to dyskolo qema, to opoio kai oi dyo eyxomaste na mporoyse na eixe lyqei prin apo poly kairo''. Anaferetai o k. Mpoys safws oxi sta Skopia, alla sto zhthma toy onomatos. Kai qelw na rwthsw, poia htan h syzhthsh gia to onoma anamesa ston Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo kai ton Amerikano Proedro;

ANTWNAROS: H syzhthsh, oson afora sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh, einai safhs. H ellhnikh kybernhsh qewrei oti to qema prepei na lyqei mesa apo tis diadikasies poy exoyn symfwnhqei apo ta Hnwmena Eqnh gia thn anazhthsh koinws apodekths onomasias.

TSIODRAS: Alla exoyme mia synomilia toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Amerikano Proedro, thn opoia o Amerikanos Proedros anaferei edw kai qa htan toylaxiston periergo o Amerikanos Proedros na mhn enhmerwsei ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo kai tote prokyptei alloy eidoys zhthma, gia thn proqesh ths amerikanikhs pleyras na proxwrhsei@

ANTWNAROS: Eji mhnes prin, ennoeite.

TSIODRAS: Bebaiws. Otan syzhtas gia to onoma, les oti katalabainw pws einai poly dyskolo qema, eyxhqhkame kai oi dyo na mporoyse na eixe lyqei apo kairo, ean den enhmerwse oti emeis exoyme proqesh na proxwrhsoyme se ayth thn kinhsh, tote yparxei alloy eidoys problhma@

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai gia poio problhma milate. Parakalw na apodwsete th deoysa prosoxh sthn teleytaia paragrafo ths epistolhs toy k. Mpoys, h opoia gia mena einai h shmantikoterh. Sas th diabazw: ``Oi HPA, en telei, qa anagnwrisoyn th geitonikh xwra me to onoma poy qa symfwnhqei''.

TSIODRAS: Sygnwmh, epeidh einai politika ta zhthmata twra, h anagnwrish ek meroys twn HPA, isws kai kapoiwn allwn xwrwn, adynatizei diapragmateytika thn Ellada, apo th stigmh poy thn anagnwrizei me to syntagmatiko ths onoma. Alla, qelw na meinoyme sta pragmatika gegonota kai na epimeinw sthn prwth paragrafo ths epistolhs toy k. Mpoys. Ayto to opoio mas lete einai oti h amerikanikh pleyra den eixe enhmerwsei thn ellhnikh, se sxesh me ayth thn proqesh ths, eji mhnes prin. Ayto katalabainw. Swsta;

ANTWNAROS: H amerikanikh pleyra den eixe enhmerwsei gia tetoia proqesh, thn opoia eseis qewreite oti eixe apo tote. Kai to epanalambanw ayto: Eseis qewreite oti eixe apo tote.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Dhladh, sth synanthsh Karamanlh-Mpoys, o Mpoys den edeije proqeseis ston k. Karamanlh oti prokeitai na anagnwrisoyn oi HPA ta Skopia me th sygkekrimenh onomasia;

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws kai oxi.

MIXAHL: Me sygxwreite, kyrie Ekproswpe, to qema den einai ean enhmerwse gia thn proqesh. Na dexqoyme oti den thn enhmerwse h profanws oi Amerikanoi den eixan apofasisei tote ti qa kanoyn. Na dexqw kai ayth thn ejhghsh. To erwthma einai: Apo th stigmh poy o hgeths twn HPA qetei to qema ston Prwqypoyrgo, o Prwqypoyrgos kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh den qa prepei -to pio aplo- na skefqoyn oti aytoi mas rwtane, ti kanoyme emeis apo edw kai pera; Rwthsa na moy peite kai moy lete@

ANTWNAROS: Eseis, dhladh, qewreite oti to endiaferon gia enhmerwsh apo ton Amerikano Proedro prodikazei sygkekrimenh stash;

MIXAHL: Dhladh, ti moy lete, oti aplws o k. Mpoys zhthse na enhmerwqei apo ton k. Karamanlh, poy brisketai to qema twn Skopiwn;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Mpoys, otan synantatai me enan jeno hgeth -opws synebh kai me ton k. Karamanlh- syzhta ena eyry fasma qematwn poy aforoyn sth xwra, ths opoias ton Prwqypoyrgo h ton Proedro dexetai. Ayto den to qewreite fysiko;

MIXAHL: Apolytws.

ANTWNAROS: Antilambaneste pws leitoyrgei h diplwmatia;

MIXAHL: Epeidh antilambanomai kai exw parakoloyqhsei polles synanthseis kai me esas, otan hsastan sth qesh mas kai dipla mas, na sas pw to ejhs: Afoy o k. Mpoys toy qetei to qema kai pairnei thn apanthsh poy pairnei, emeis apo ekei kai pera ti kanoyme, h ellhnikh pleyra;

ANTWNAROS: Epeidh den erxeste kaqe hmera sthn politikh enhmerwsh, profanws den exete parakoloyqhsei oles tis enhmerwseis.

MIXAHL: Tis diabazw oles, lejh pros lejh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas epanalambanw loipon: H ellhnikh kybernhsh eipe tote ston k. Mpoys oti yposthrizei epitaxynsh ths diadikasias sto plaisio twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn. Ayto exei ginei. Eginan sygkekrimenes epafes toso apo ton k. Balhnakh oso kai apo ton k. Molybiath kai sth geitonikh xwra kai sta Hnwmena Eqnh. Synepws, h ellhnikh kybernhsh ekane ayto poy ekrine oti epiballetai oti prepei na kanei kai qa synexisei na to kanei.

MIXAHL: Thn hmera poy o k. Molybiaths synanthqhke sta Skopia me thn ka Mitreba, ean qymamai kala prepei na htan Paraskeyh, prin apo treis ebdomades, thn idia hmera sthn Aqhna, egine synanthsh toy k. Balhnakh me ton k. Nimits. Mporeite na mas peite ti antikeimeno eixe kai ti syzhthqhke;

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws, oxi.

XIDIROGLOY: Egw qa hqela na qesw to erwthma pio genika. Einai h ellhnikh kybernhsh ikanopoihmenh apo tis dieykrinhseis gia to qema twn Skopiwn sthn epistolh toy Amerikanoy Proedroy pros ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh qewrei oti h epistolh enisxyei th dikh ths diapragmateytikh qesh, dioti akribws kai h amerikanikh pleyra qewrei oti to qema prepei na kleisei oristika mesa apo diapragmateyseis, oi opoies malista eyxetai na odhghqoyn taxytata se aisio telos kai desmeyetai na anagnwrisei to opoiodhpote apotelesma aytwn twn diapragmateysewn. Ayth akribws einai kai h qesh ths ellhnikhs pleyras.

KWNSTANTAKOPOYLOS: Ma, yphrxe piqanothta oi dyo xwres na symfwnhsoyn se ena onoma kai oi HPA na ejakoloyqoyn na epimenoyn na tis onomazoyn alliws;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa, ti leei h epistolh. Scripta manent.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Eipate prin oti to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn einai se synexh epagrypnhsh. Aifnidiasthke, omws, apo th monomerh apofash twn HPA. Endexetai na aifnidiastei pali apo endexomenh prajh, anti gia proqesh pleon, ths Albanias na anagnwrisei ta Skopia;

ANTWNAROS: Den apantw se ypoqetikes erwthseis. To Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kanei arista th doyleia toy.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

Kalo Sabatokyriako.


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