Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-11-09

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 9 Noembrioy 2004

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Prin apo ligo oloklhrwqhke h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, me qema to nomosxedio poy qa kataqesei to YPEXWDE sth Boylh, sxetika me tis meletes sta dhmosia erga. Ayth thn wra, o k. Soyflias kanei sxetikes anakoinwseis stoys syntaktes toy Ypoyrgeioy.

Meta apo prosklhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy ths Aigyptoy k. Axmet Nazif, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa pragmatopoihsei epishmh episkech sthn Aigypto, apo tis 26 ews kai tis 28 Noembrioy. Einai h prwth epishmh episkech se epipedo Prwqypoyrgoy sthn perioxh meta apo xronia kai apotelei eykairia gia thn anaqewrhsh kai prowqhsh twn dimerwn sxesewn, alla kai th syzhthsh qematwn poy aforoyn thn eyryterh perioxh kai tis dieqneis ejelijeis.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

SARANTAKOS: Shmera to ``EQNOS'' apokalyptei thn ekqesh toy presbh ths xwras mas sth Leykwsia sxetika me thn prosgeiwsh enos amerikanikoy aeroskafoys sta katexomena. Hqela na rwthsw ean h kybernhsh exei kanei to aparaithto diabhma gi@ aythn thn kinhsh kai an exoyn enhmerwqei oi xwres ths E.E.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh parakoloyqei ola ta gegonota, ta katagrafei kai probainei stis aparaithtes energeies, otan krinei oti o xronos einai katallhlos kai prosforos.

SARANTAKOS: Ara, diabhma den exei ginei ep` aytoy akoma, toylaxiston.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

SARANTAKOS: Problhmatizei thn kybernhsh oti ayto to gegonos synebh thn Pempth, thn idia mera kata thn opoia anakoinwqhke h apofash twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn na anagnwristoyn ta Skopia me to onoma ``Dhmokratia ths Makedonias'';

ANTWNAROS: Metajy twn dyo qematwn den yparxei kamia apolytws syndesh.

XIWTHS: H kybernhsh yioqetei tis protaseis poy kateqese xqes sth Boylh o k. Papandreoy gia diejagwgh syzhthshs se epipedo arxhgwn kai gia sygklhsh toy Symboylioy Arxhgwn gia to qema ths onomasias ths FYROM;

ANTWNAROS: Sto qema ayto apanthse xqes o k. Roysopoylos. Isxyei h apanthsh toy.

XIDIROGLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prin apo liges hmeres maqame oti albaniko dikasthrio epebale poines fylakishs apo enamish etos ews tria eth se Albanoys polites ellhnikhs katagwghs sth Xeimara, me aformh osa diadramatisthkan ekei stis dhmotikes ekloges. Enw h apofash eixe lhfqei apo to dikasthrio prin thn episkech toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, ekei pera, den egine gnwsth gia eynohtoys logoys. Pws skopeyei h kybernhsh na yperaspistei toys omoeqneis mas sth Boreia @Hpeiro;

ANTWNAROS: Epikaleiste gegonota kai leptomereies poy den moy einai gnwstes. Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, leei h kybernhsh oti qelei synainesh gyrw apo to Skopiano. Exei protaseis epi th basei ths opoias qa epidiwjei synainesh me ta alla kommata, eite tis ekfrasei dhmosiws, eite oxi;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh synexizei tis prospaqeies gia ejeyresh amoibaia apodekths onomasias, sto plaisio ths diadikasias twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, h opoia, opws gnwrizete, exei epitaxynqei. Gia thn thrhsh aytoy toy plaisioy, nomizw oti yparxei synainesh.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ta antipoina apenanti sta Skopia einai kybernhtikh qesh; Einai prwtoboylia toy Ypoyrgeioy Ergasias; Kai an einai kybernhtikh qesh, htan enhmeros o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Molybiaths;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxoyn oyte antipoina, oyte timwria, opws ypainisseste.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Ep` aytoy, giati exoyme dhlwsh toy k. Ypoyrgoy.

ANTWNAROS: Ean anafereste se kati poy eipe xqes o k. Panagiwtopoylos, prokeitai gia mia mikrh xronikh anabolh twn synennohsewn, oi opoies ginontai kaqe xrono gia thn eleysh epoxikwn ergatwn apo th geitonikh xwra sthn Ellada.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Ean moy epitrepete, yparxei dhlwsh sthn thleorash toy ALPHA, opoy o k. Panagiwtopoylos leei: ``Kaname ayto gia na dwsoyme sta Skopia na katalaboyn oti h epipolaih kai adikh apofash twn HPA gia monomerh anagnwrish den lynei problhmata, alla dhmioyrgei perissotera''.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apantw, oti prokeitai gia mikrh xronikh anabolh. To qema qa lyqei se eyqetotero xrono.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Ara, den einai qesh ths kybernhshs ayto;

TSIODRAS: Ara, o ypoyrgos Ergasias otan kanei mia tetoioy eidoys politikh dhlwsh thn kanei ston aera;

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino to opoio hqele na pei profanws o k. Panagiwtopoylos einai oti h hmera ekeinh den htan h pio katallhlh gia na proxwrhsei h oristikopoihsh ths sygkekrimenhs symfwnias.

TSIODRAS: Ara, xrhsimopoihse laqos ekfrash.

SOYGLERHS: Einai frastiko laqos, kyrie Ekproswpe;

ANTWNAROS: H apanthsh moy einai safhs.

SPYRAKH: H kybernhsh yioqetei thn apoch toy k. Panagiwtopoyloy opws ekfrasthke sthn thleorash toy ALPHA oti dhladh egine ayto gia na stalei ena mhnyma sta Skopia;

ANTWNAROS: Dieykrinisa oti den htan h katallhlh hmera gia na prowqhqei h sygkekrimenh symfwnia. Oi leptomereies ths en logw symfwnias -einai kati poy ginetai panta me symfwnia twn dyo pleyrwn- qa oristikopoihqoyn se eyqetotero xrono.

SOYGLERHS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa kanei apeyqeias synanthseis me toys omologoys toy sthn Eyrwph h mesw toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn; Poies qa einai oi epomenes prwtoboylies;

ANTWNAROS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa metasxei stis ergasies toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, stis 17 Dekembrioy, stis Bryjelles Oi synanthseis poy endexomenws qa ginoyn, qa anakoinwqoyn otan oristikopoihqei to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

GKOYTZANHS: H qesh oti h Ellada qa balei beto h den qa synainesei ston na entaxqoyn ta Skopia sthn E.E. h sto NATO isxyei akomh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw sth xqesinh dhlwsh toy k. Roysopoyloy, o opoios milhse gia diplwmatikh maxh kai eipe oti ta opla poy exei h Ellada skopeyei na ta xrhsimopoihsei.

KAPRALOS: H shmerinh synanthsh toy k. Molybiath me ton k. Stefanopoylo ginetai ystera aplo prwtoboylia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn h ystera apo aithma toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias;

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai se qesh na dieykrinisw ayto to kaqara diadikastiko qema. Na rwthsw kai na sas apanthsw. Opws jerete h kybernhsh se ola ta shmantika qemata enhmerwnei taktika ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias. Einai fysiko, loipon, liges molis hmeres meta th sygkekrimenh ejelijh, amesws meta apo to Sabbatokyriako, na enhmerwqei o Proedros ths Dhmokratias apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn. Gnwrizete oti o k. Molybiaths eixe enhmerwsei thlefwnika ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias thn idia hmera, dhladh, thn prohgoymenh Pempth.

XONDROS: Otan milame gia eqnikh synainesh milame gia mia prospaqeia na yparjei mia koinh stash poy qa sthrijoyn oles oi politikes dynameis sto qema twn Skopiwn. Mesa apo poies diadikasies qa ginei olh ayth h zymwsh; Qa yparjoyn epafes toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys politikoys arxhgoys jexwrista; Poia diadikasia qa akoloyqhqei gia na fqasoyme se koinh qesh olwn twn politikwn kommatwn;

ANTWNAROS: O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Molybiaths exei orisei xwristes synanthseis thn Pempth, 11 toy mhnos, me toys arxhgoys twn triwn allwn kommatwn poy ekproswpoyntai sth Boylh. Dialogos, loipon, ginetai hdh kai malista me prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs.

XIWTHS: Xqes, apokalyfqhkan dyo eggrafa toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn pros to amerikaniko ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn apo ton k. Papandreoy kai ton k. Molybiath. Kat` arxas, anarwtiemai ean h kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh na diarreoyn tetoioy eidoys eggrafa se thleoptikes ekpompes. Kai, epishs, ean me ayto ton tropo epikrinei h kybernhsh sthn oysia ton k. Papandreoy, oti den antidroyse me ton endeiknyomeno tropo sto qema ths onomasias ths FYROM;

ANTWNAROS: Apodeiknyetai apla oti o k. Papandreoy den ekane tipota perissotero gia na anakocei to dromo pros thn anagnwrish me to onoma ``Dhmokratia ths Makedonia''.

XIWTHS: Pros ti h sygkrish twn dyo epistolwn kai malista apo ena melos ths kybernhshs; Kai den moy apanthsate ean aytos einai o endeiknyomenos tropos gia na apokalyptontai eggrafa toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa synolika sto erwthma.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Xqes yphrje apo to anwtato akyrwtiko dikasthrio ths Toyrkias mia apofash se o,ti afora to orfanotrofeio sthn Prigkhpo. Oysiastika me ayth thn apofash pernaei sthn perioysia toy toyrkikoy kratoys, anoigontas toys askoys toy Aioloy kai gia alla ktiria ta opoia diekdikei to Patriarxeio. Qa hqela to sxolio sas kai en pash periptwsei an ayto symballei sto kalo klima poy qeloyme na dhmioyrghqei en ocei ths 17hs Dekembrioy, afoy opws gnwrizoyme oloi h dikaiosynh sthn Toyrkia den einai kai anejarthth.

SPYRAKH: Me sygxwreite, synadei ayto me thn ekqesh ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs poy hrqe prosfata sto fws ths dhmosiothtas stis 6 Oktwbrioy, sxetika me toys oroys kai eixe anafora kai sto (den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws oti parakoloyqoyme kaqe tmhma ths symperiforas ths Toyrkias sto dromo poy exei apofasisei h idia na akoloyqhsei pros thn eyrwpaikh ths oloklhrwsh. Ayta katagrafontai toso apo mas, oso kai apo ta alla 24 krath-melh, apo ta opoia zhtei h Toyrkia na symfwnhsoyn gia thn enarjh twn entajiakwn diapragmateysewn poy se baqos xronoy, endexomenws, qa odhghsoyn sthn entajh ths sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Ola ayta ta stoixeia ths symperiforas ajiologoyntai. Qa odhghqoyme, opws jerete, sth 17h Dekembrioy, opoy ta 25 krath-melh ths E.E. qa apofasisoyn kata poso qeloyn na dwsoyn ayth thn hmeromhnia thn opoia perimenei h Agkyra. Synepws h ajiologhsh einai synexhs.

TSIODRAS: Exw treis erwthseis: H prwth afora sthn apanthsh poy dwsate se sxesh me thn Kypro kai thn prosgeiwsh aeroplanoy sta katexomena. Eipate oti probainoyme se diabhmata otan o xronos einai prosforos. Qa hqela sygkekrimena an sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh exoyme probei se diabhma.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

TSIODRAS: Ma, sas zhtame ena pragmatiko gegonos, to kaname h den to kaname;

ANTWNAROS: To qema exei kalyfqei.

TSIODRAS: H deyterh erwthsh moy: Se sxesh me tis meqayrianes synanthseis toy k. Molybiath me toys politikoys arxhgoys, prokeitai h kybernhsh na syzhthsei kai endexomeno onomatos poy qa mporoyse na diapragmateytei h ellhnikh pleyra me ta Skopia sto plaisio toy OHE;

ANTWNAROS: Den einai ayto to antikeimeno twn syzhthsewn.

TSIODRAS: Den afora thn onomasia to zhthma twn Skopiwn;

ANTWNAROS: Antikeimeno twn syzhthsewn den einai h ejeyresh sygkekrimenwn onomatwn. Antikeimeno twn syzhthsewn einai na enhmerwqoyn oi politikoi arxhgoi, kaqenas jexwrista apo ton k. Molybiath, o opoios xeirizetai ypeyqyna thn ejwterikh politikh ths Ellados gia tis teleytaies ejelijeis, tis ektimhseis poy kanei to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai bebaiws na ginei kai h aparaithth antallagh apocewn, sxetika me to mellontiko sxediasmo.

KAPRALOS: Shmera phgainei sta Skopia o k. Solana. H ellhnikh pleyra exei qesei ston k. Solana, stis Bryjeles, kapoia aithmata h kapoies qeseis tis opoies qa ekfrasei apo thn pleyra ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs stis shmerines synanthseis;

ANTWNAROS: H qesh ths E.E. einai safhs. Ta 25 krath-melh yposthrizoyn th diadikasia sto plaisio toy OHE gia anazhthsh amoibaia apodekths lyshs sto qema toy onomatos. Synepws, o k. Solana qa metaferei tis qeseis ths E.E., ths opoias melos einai h Ellada.

KAPRALOS: Shmera, h efhmerida ``TO BHMA'' grafei oti thn prohgoymenh Pempth sth synanthsh toy k. Molybiath me ton k. Miler, o k. Molybiaths epedwse ena non paper ston k. Miler, opoy ekfrazetai h entonh enoxlhsh ths ellhnikhs pleyras gia to monomerh xarakthra ths anagnwrishs, opoy ekfrazetai h entonh enoxlhsh ths ellhnikh pleyras gia to monomerh xarakthra ths amerikanikhs anagnwrishs twn Skopiwn. Alhqeyei to sygkekrimeno dhmosieyma;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na anaferqw se antallagh diplwmatikwn eggrafwn, ta opoia ginontai endexomenws kata tis synanthseis toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn me jenoys presbeis. H enoxlhsh ths ellhnikhs pleyras, opws jerete allwste, einai dedomenh. Thn ejefrase dhmosia kai o idios o k. Molybiaths, amesws meta th synanthsh toy me ton k. Miler.

SIDERHS: Xarakthrizete akomch kommatikh parembash thn paysh toy k. Dafermoy apo th qesh toy Genikoy Epiqewrhth Dhmosias Dioikhshs.

ANTWNAROS: H lhjh ths qhteias toy k. Dafermoy einai apolytws synnomh.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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