Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-10-27

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Aqhna, 27 Oktwbrioy 2004

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Eisagwgika, qa hqela na sas pw oti h epomenh enhmerwsh qa ginei th Deytera 1h Noembrioy.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa metabei thn Paraskeyh (29/10) sth Rwmh gia thn epishmh ypografh ths Eyrwpaikhs Syntagmatikhs Synqhkhs.

H ekqesh me tis fqinopwrines ektimhseis ths Epitrophs epibebaiwnei oti h politikh ths hpias dhmosionomikhs prosarmoghs poy exei yioqethsei h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai qa meiwsei drastika to elleimma -sygkekrimena kata dyo posostiaies monades- kai qa epitrecei th diathrhsh ryqmwn anaptyjhs poly ychloterwn apo to meso eyrwpaiko oro, akomh kai se sxesh me thn Eyrwph twn 25.

Sthn ekqesh anagnwrizetai oti synolikotera sthn eyrwpaikh oikonomia qa yparjei epibradynsh, kaqws o mesos oros toy ryqmoy anaptyjhs sthn ONE problepetai sto 2% gia to 2005, enanti 2,1% fetos, enw gia thn Eyrwph twn 25 o ryqmos anaptyjhs anamenetai sto 2,3%, enanti ektimhshs gia 2,5% to 2004. Gia thn epibradynsh ths eyrwpaikhs oikonomias, ws basikh aitia prosdiorizetai h anodikh poreia twn timwn toy petrelaioy.

Opws einai gnwsto, h ellhnikh oikonomia einai analogika kata diplasio pososto ejarthmenh apo tis times twn kaysimwn. Etsi, dikaiologeitai se megalo baqmo h analogika megalyterh ths eyrwpaikhs epibradynsh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, h opoia apo to 3,8% ths fetinhs xronias ypoxwrei sto 3,3% gia to 2005.

H ekqesh epishmainei xarakthristika oti ``h anakamch epitrepei mono periorismenh dhmosionomikh prosarmogh sthn Eyrwzwnh'' ara, ek twn pragmatwn, anagnwrizetai oti se olh thn Eyrwph oi ryqmoi anaptyjhs den bohqoyn sthn epiteyjh megalyterhs proodoy ston periorismo twn elleimmatwn.

H ellhnikh kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei sthn askhsh ths politikhs ths me bash toys dhmosionomikoys stoxoys poy exei qesei gia ryqmoys anaptyjhs, dhladh 3,9% kai gia meiwsh toy dhmosionomikoy elleimmatos sto 2,8% kata to 2005.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Exete plhroforhqei asfalws oti yparxei proqesh apo thn pleyra toy Proedroy ths Epitrophs na aposyrqei to Swma kai na paei se nea diaboyleysh me toys hgetes twn kratwn-melwn. Qelw na rwthsw an yparxei epishmh prosklhsh apo thn Ollandikh Proedria gia ektakth synanthsh twn hgetwn sth Synodo Koryfhs, ayrio sth Rwmh.

ANTWNAROS: Prokeitai gia apofash poy anakoinwqhke molis prin apo liga lepta. Einai asfalws mia sobarh ejelijh. Parakoloyqoyme tis ejelijeis kai qa hqela na tonisw toyto: H ellhnikh kybernhsh kai h Ellada yposthrizoyn panta mia isxyrh Epitroph kai ejelijeis poy qa diasfalisoyn thn omalh kai apotelesmatikh leitoyrgia ths Enwshs.

BLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na moy peite an pisteyei h kybernhsh oti yparxoyn poly kales kai alles texnikes etaireies poy mporoyn na kanoyn ergo analogo me ayto poy exei kanei h etaireia AKTWR, ean pisteyei h kybernhsh oti ta osa symbainoyn to teleytaio diasthma me to Symboylio Radiothleorashs kai to Mhtrwo Diafaneias plhttoyn oysiastika ta symferonta twn politwn, dioti exoyn pagwsei erga, ta opoia einai pros to symferon kai pros ofelos toy ellhnikoy laoy. Edw exei mlokaristei to sympan. Den ginetai tipota. H kybernhsh qa kanei kati h qa parakoloyqei san qeaths aytes tis ejelijeis;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh kanei o,ti epitassoyn oi nomoi.

BLAXOS: Dhladh, mesa stoys nomoys den einai na ejyphrethsete to koino symferon; Otan exoyn stamathsei megala erga, den einai ayto se baros toy symferontos twn politwn; To epishmainw ayto, dioti ayth h istoria jekinhse meta th synanthsh toy k. Roysopoyloy me ton k. Emfietzogloy. Ekei koryfwqhke. Ara, loipon, nomizw oti h kybernhsh prepei na parembei, wste na synexistoyn ta erga.

ANTWNAROS: Katalhgete se ayqaireta symperasmata, oson afora stis epafes tis opoies eixe kai exei o k. Roysopoylos sta plaisia twn armodiothtwn toy. Oson afora, sthn prohgoymenh erwthsh: H kybernhsh den prokeitai na sxoliasei se kamia periptwsh apofaseis anejarthths dioikhtikhs Arxhs, opws einai to Eqniko Symboylio Radiothleorashs.

GKOYTZANHS: Yparxei qema sto sygkekrimeno me thn parembash toy eisaggelea gia to pws ekdoqhkan kapoies xiliades pistopoihtika, ta teleytaia xronia; Kai edw yparxei ena pragmatiko problhma. Den yparxei h dynatothta kai h ypodomh toy ESR gia na elegxei ola ayta ta pistopoihtika poy prepei. H kybernhsh einai oktw mhnes, den exei kanei tipota gi` ayto. Skopeyei toylaxiston na kanei;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, den prokeitai, se kamia periptwsh, na anaferqw se ereynes tis opoies kanoyn organa ths Dikaiosynhs. Kai deyteron, opws jerete, h kybernhsh exei tonisei epaneilhmmena oti einai anagkaia h enisxysh twn elegktikwn mhxanismwn se ola ta epipeda kai se oloys toys tomeis, wste na mhn parathreitai kamia dysleitoyrgia. Kai ayto qa to kanoyme prajh.

BLAXOS: Epi toy qematos. Edw, opws paei to pragma, k. Ekproswpe, kindyneyei h kybernhsh na perasei o xronos kai na mhn exei na paroysiasei kanena ergo kata th diarkeia ths qhteias ths. Dioti an synexistei ayto, h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias den qa mporei na pei ston ellhniko lao kai toys chfoforoys oti emeis kaname ayta ta erga. Exei mplokaristei to sympan. Ayto den apasxolei ton Prwqypoyrgo;

ANTWNAROS: Katalhgete, gia deyterh fora, se ayqaireta symperasmata. To an h kybernhsh paragei ergo h oxi, qa moy epitrecete na pw oti to krinei o ellhnikos laos.

BLAXOS: Den milaw gia kybernhtiko ergo, milaw gia texniko ergo.

ANTWNAROS: Ta texnika erga ginontai, opws prepei na ginontai.

BLAXOS: Ma, den ginontai.

ANTWNAROS: Ta texnika erga prepei na ginontai synnoma.

BLAXOS: Ma, den ginontai omws. Mas pws ginontan synnoma ta erga mexri twra;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa.

LEONTITSH: O yfypoyrgos Oikonomias k. Doykas, to prwi, milwntas ston radiofwniko staqmo ALPHA eipe oti kai o idios ebriske aisiodojh thn apoch oti oi ryqmoi anaptyjhs to 2005 qa ayjhqoyn sto 3,9%, opws problepei to prosxedio poy kateqese h kybernhsh sthn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph kai to opoio amfisbhtei o k. Almoynia. Otan, loipon, leei kati tetoio o yfypoyrgos Oikonomias, tiqetai to erwthma: poios synetaje ayton ton proypologismo;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw dhlwseis toy k. Doyka, tis opoies eseis moy metaferete ki egw den exw akoysei.

SPYRAKH: To PASOK meta th xqesinh epilogh ths Elladas na qesei veto sto qema ths koinotikhs odhgias gia th rypansh twn ploiwn, kanei logo gia ejyphrethsh efoplistikwn symferontwn. Thn idia apoch yioqetei shmera kai merida toy Typoy, fwtografizontas malista sygkekrimenoys efoplistes. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

ANTWNAROS: Moy lete sas parakalw poios to eipe apo to PASOK;

SPYRAKH: Xqes, o k. Papoytshs me grapth dhlwsh toy.

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, anarwtiemai poion kai ti ejyphretoyn aytes oi aneyqynoypeyqynes dhlwseis. Profanws mono thn asteireyth dica gia probolh oswn tis kanoyn. O k. Papoytshs exei diatelesei ypoyrgos Emporikhs Naytilias kai qa prepei na jerei orismena basika pragmata, opws: H emporikh naytilia einai eqnikos ploytos kai prostateyetai apo ola ta ellhnika Syntagmata, ta teleytaia ejhnta xronia. Ena pragma einai safes -kai as to agnooyn epideiktika osoi gia mikrokommatikes skopimothtes apofasizoyn na kindynologhsoyn: To sxedio apofashs sto opoio, fysika kai den synainese h Ellada, problepei adiakrith epibolh poinwn, oxi monon gia toys ploiokthtes, alla kai gia toys ergazomenoys sta ploia. Etsi -opws eipame kai xqes kai epanalambanoyme shmera- apeileitai h epibolh poinwn sthn naytikh ergasia. Oi Ellhnes naytikoi qa ektiqentan me aytes tis ryqmiseis se megaloys kindynoys. Kai ayto, kamia ellhnikh kybernhsh opws antilambaneste, den mporei kai den prokeitai na to epitrecei. H eyaisqhsia gia thn prostasia toy periballontos -kai malista sto qalassio xwro- gia thn opoia koptontai orismenoi, einai dedomenh sthn Ellada kai nomika katoxyrwmenh. Problepontai prostima gia opoion parabainei toys kanones. Alla den mporei na yparjei epibolh prostimwn xwris plafon, giati tote ta ploia qa parameinoyn anasfalista kai qa odhghqoyn se mazikh ejodo toys apo thn ellhnikh shmaia. Poios qelei kati tetoio; Mas endiaferei na diathrhsoyme kai na ayjhsoyme tis qeseis ergasias gia Ellhnes naytikoys sta ellhnika ploia. Einai xarakthristiko oti th stash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai sygkekrimena toy k. Kefalogiannh, o opoios thn ejefrase ws armodios Ypoyrgos, epainesan ola ta emplekomena merh, o naytiliakos kosmos kai oi ekproswpoi twn ergazomenwn sto xwro. Osoi odyrontai giati dhqen h Ellada den antapokriqhke stis dieqneis ypoxrewseis ths, as apanthsoyn se ena aplo erwthma: An h Gallia antimetwpize apeilh gia ena eqniko proion ths poy apotelei kai phgh esodwn kai eqniko ployto, opws to krasi, yparxei h paramikrh amfibolia oti qa edine maxh mexri esxatwn; As stamathsoyme, loipon, na eleeinologoyme osoys proaspizontai ta eqnika symferonta mas.

TSIKRIKA: Yparxei h fhmologia oti o k. Dhmas, alla kai o k. Papalhgoyras einai dysaresthmenoi me ton k. Kefalogiannh me thn prwtoboylia toy na askhsei veto. Isxyei;

ANTWNAROS: Thn politikh qesh ths kybernhshs thn ejefrase o k. Kefalogiannhs.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, kat` arxas, ekkremei mia erwthsh apo xqes.

ANTWNAROS: Den thn exw akomh etoimh.

SIDERHS: Xqes, apoxarakthrizontai me apofash toy k. Mpasiakoy ekatommyria stemmata dasoys, me bash to nomo toy PASOK poy xarakthrizate dasoktono kai chfoqhriko. H tote legate cemata h twra den mporeite na kanete enan nomo poy na antapokrinetai se ayta poy yposxosastan.

ANTWNAROS: Epi toy qematos ekane xqes analytikes dhlwseis o k. Mpasiakos. Ypenqymizw oti to komma ths N.D. otan htan sthn antipoliteysh, opws gnwrizete, eixe katachfisei to prwto arqro toy sygkekrimenoy nomoy gia ton opoio ekkremei ejetash ths antisyntagmatikothtas sto StE. Oso yparxei ayth h ekkremothta, den einai dynaton na yparjei keno nomoy. Gi ayto to logo o k. Mpasiakos, ap` o,ti me enhmerwse, ejedwse sxetikh egkyklio. Prepei na anameinoyme thn apofash toy StE.

SIDERHS: Qa htan aney antikeimenoy h apofash toy StE ean eixate ferei allon nomo.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

GKOYTZANHS: Ekkremei mia apanthsh sas apo proxqes: Ean h kybernhsh symfwnei me th sthrijh poy parexei to Eyrwpaiko Laiko Komma ston k. Mpotilione;

ANTWNAROS: Ayth th stigmh, to qema einai aney antikeimenoy.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Sxetika me tis parelaseis o k. Roysopoylos edw se ayth thn aiqoysa eixe kanei logo gia meiwsh toy kostoys twn parelasewn, afhnontas na ennoei oti sto mellon qa parelaynoyn mono pezopora tmhmata toy ellhnikoy stratoy. Wstoso, xqes, o k. Sphliwtopoylos mprosta ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias eipe oti den tiqetai qema katarghshs twn parelasewn. Telika ti skopeyei na kanei h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw proxeirh epi lejei th dhlwsh toy k. Roysopoyloy. Ypenqymizw oti ginontai kapoies skeceis sto ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas gia to endexomeno meiwshs toy synolikoy kostoys twn stratiwtikwn parelasewn. Den exei lhfqei kamia apofash. To ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas den exei katalhjei se symperasmata. Oi parelaseis ginontai kanonika.

MPOTSARAKOS: Amfisbhtoyse h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh ta stoixeia poy edine h kybernhsh toy PASOK kai gia thn oikonomia kai me thn apografh eseis dwsate ta pragmatika stoixeia, opws lete. Shmera, h E.E. amfisbhtei tis dikes sas probleceis. Akoloyqeite ki eseis thn taktikh poy akoloyqoyse to PASOK gia thn oikonomia. Dhladh, exete probleceis ychloteroys gia toys ryqmoys anaptyjhs kai xamhloteroys gia to elleimma.

ANTWNAROS: Ta stoixeia poy edwse xqes h Epitroph stis fqinopwrines ektimhseis ths gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia den htan kati memonwmeno. H Epitroph anaferqhke stis oikonomies twn kratwn-melwn. Qa deite oti kai stis ektimhseis poy kanei gia megales xwres -eimaste se kalh parea- yparxoyn apokliseis. Oi xwres, kaqe mia jexwrista, ektima tis dikes ths prooptikes polles fores diaforetika apo to kentriko organo ths Koinothtas. Kai polles fores apodeiknyetai epishs oti oi swstes ektimhseis einai aytes poy exoyn ginei se eqniko epipedo.

GKOYTZANHS: Nai, alla edw yparxei h ektimhsh oti me bash tis apokliseis aytes poy lete oti yparxoyn, h E.E. qa zhthsei th lhch symplhrwmatikwn metrwn.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai dikh sas ektimhsh. Den yparxei kanena aithma gia lhch epipleon metrwn.

GKOYTZANHS: Para tis apokliseis@

ANTWNAROS: Para tis apokliseis.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw kati allo: Meta tis xqesines apofaseis toy ESR, dhmioyrgeitai sthn koinh gnwmh h entypwsh oti o polemos kata ths diaplokhs ejantleitai enantion enos sygkekrimenoy epixeirhmatia. Problhmatizei thn kybernhsh ayto to gegonos;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw se kamia periptwsh tis apofaseis toy ESR kai o,ti exei sxesh m@ ayto.

GKOYTZANHS: H erwthsh htan epi politikoy, den htan gia tis apofaseis.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio epi toy qematos.

GKOYTZANHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw kai gia ta ellhnotoyrkika kati: Telika, exoyn ginei diabhmata apo th dikh sas pleyra sthn Agkyra gia parabiaseis kai parabaseis;

ANTWNAROS: Enhmerwse xqes ep@ aytoy toys diplwmatikoys syntaktes o k. Koymoytsakos.

GKOYTZANHS: Den toys enhmerwse, kyrie Ekproswpe, gi@ ayto rwtw.

ANTWNAROS: O k. Koymoytsakos toys enhmerwse xqes. Exoyn ginei -ej oswn gnwrizw- dyo diabhmata gia to sygkekrimeno qema sth diarkeia ths ebdomados, ena sthn Agkyra kai ena sthn Aqhna.

GKOYTZANHS: Ti perieixan ayta ta diabhmata;

ANTWNAROS: Opws jerete, to periexomeno twn diplwmatikwn diabhmatwn den koinopoieitai.

GKOYTZANHS: Anaferotan se sygkekrimenes periptwseis h htan genikws kai aoristws; Giati h toyrkikh pleyra ejakoloyqei na leei oti den yparxei@

ANTWNAROS: Exei tis qeseis ths kai exoyme tis dikes mas, tis opoies kai yposthrizoyme. Den prokeitai na ypoxwrhsoyme oyte ekatosto sta kyriarxika dikaiwmata mas.

GKOYTZANHS: Den eipa egw oti qa ypoxwrhsoyme. Apla, egw lew oti emeis den exoyme stoixeia peri tinos prokeitai.

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws kai exoyme stoixeia. Exete thn entypwsh oti kanoyme diabhmata xwris na exoyme stoixeia;

GKOYTZANHS: Ta opoia, pantws, den ta exei h koinh gnwmh.

ANTWNAROS: To periexomeno twn diplwmatikwn diabhmatwn den dhmosiopoieitai ston Typo, poyqena ston kosmo.

MPOTSARAKOS: Qelw na qesw dyo erwthseis: Prwton, ean ginontai pragmati parabiaseis toy ellhnikoy enaerioy xwroy kai sta ellhnika xwrika ydata. Ginontai h den ginontai; Kai giati, an ginontai, h kybernhsh den anakoinwnei epishmws oti ginontai parabiaseis.

ANTWNAROS: Thn perasmenh Paraskeyh@

MPOTSARAKOS: Den yparxei kapoia anakoinwsh apo thn kybernhsh gi@ ayto. Ejedoqh kapoia anakoinwsh poy den thn gnwrizoyme;

ANTWNAROS: Thn perasmenh Paraskeyh ejedoqh leptomerhs anakoinwsh apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas.

KOYIN: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den yparxei anakoinwsh.

ANTWNAROS: Den thn exete parei.

KOYIN: Den yparxei anakoinwsh.

ANTWNAROS: Yparxei anakoinwsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Gi@ ayto dhmioyrghqhke to qema, kyrie Ekproswpe, giati den yparxei kamia epishmh anakoinwsh. Einai symfwna me plhrofories poy diarreoyn ta grafeia twn ypoyrgwn. Einai epilektikes diarroes grafeiwn ypoyrgwn.

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw oti sas milw gia anakoinwsh toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas.

KONGKO: Anakoinwsh gia ti pragma exei bgei; Gia parabiaseis h gia parabaseis;

ANTWNAROS: Gia th symperifora ths toyrkikhs Aeroporias sto Aigaio.

KOYIN: Sygnwmh, kyrie Ekproswpe, den qa hqela na sas to pw ayto, alla ektos apo mia anakoinwsh poy ekane o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas sthn Kastoria, kata th diarkeia ths trimeroys synanthshs ypoyrgwn Eqnikhs Amynas Skopiwn @ Ellados @ Albanias, den exei yparjei kanena allo sxolio.

ANTWNAROS: Anakoinwsh yparxei. Qa sas enhmerwsw pote akribws ejedoqh.

MPOTSARAKOS: Dhmoskophsh poy paroysiase xqes to STAR CHANNEL deixnei oti h Nea Dhmokratia prohgeitai me 8,2 posostiaies monades enanti toy PASOK, alla kai oti o Kwstas Karamanlhs, o arxhgos ths N.D. einai to isxyro oplo toy kybernwntos kommatos. Apo ekei kai pera, ta stelexh synteloyn se pososto 10% kai poly pio xamhla einai h ideologia. Ena sxolio ep@ aytoy;

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw dhmoskophseis.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora ta ellhnotoyrkika, o Synaspismos kai to PASOK xqes zhthsan th sygklhsh toy Symboylioy Ejwterikhs Politikhs. Skopeyei h kybernhsh na kanei dekto ayto to aithma;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. O k. Molybiaths, oytws h allws -pera ap@ ayto to opoio qetete- enhmerwnei ta kommata se synexh bash.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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