Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-10-22

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 22 Oktwbrioy 2004

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos, th Deytera, 25 Oktwbrioy, stis 10 to prwi, qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy me to Geniko Dieyqynth ths ``Deutsche Welle'' k. @Erik Mpeterman, o opoios qa breqei sthn Aqhna me thn eykairia ths symplhrwshs 40 etwn apo thn enarjh leitoyrgias ths ellhnikhs ekpomphs ths Deutsche Welle''.

@ Stis 11:30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei, sto Megaro Majimoy, me to Proedreio toy Idrymatos Wnash.

@ Katopin o Prwqypoyrgos qa metabei sth Qessalonikh, opoy to brady qa parakoloyqhsei thn parastash ``Aytokratwr Mixahl'', sto Kratiko Qeatro Boreioy Ellados.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, shmera eixame thn paraithsh toy antiproedroy toy Paidagwgikoy Institoytoy k. Giwrgoy Kalkanh. O k. Kalkanhs esteile thn epistolh paraithshs toy se prwinh efhmerida kai oxi sto ypoyrgeio Paideias. Pws sxoliazete ton tropo poy epeleje na paraithqei, kaqws den eixe enhmerwsei to ypoyrgeio;

ANTWNAROS: Xwris na ypotimw kaqoloy thn idiothta toy kaqhghth Panepisthmioy h kybernhsh den sxoliazei thn paraithsh enos meloys toy D.S. toy Paidagwgikoy Institoytoy.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Pws sxoliazete ton tropo me ton opoio epeleje na paraithqei; Oxi thn paraithsh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den sxoliazete thn paraithsh enos meloys toy Paidagwgikoy Institoytoy, den sxoliazete ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, den sxoliazete ton epitimo Proedro ths N.D., den sxoliazete ypoyrgoys, den sxoliazete boyleytes, ti sxoliazete;

ANTWNAROS: Kanoyme osa sxolia krinoyme oti prepei na ginoyn.

SIDERHS: Mono o,ti afora to PASOK;

ANTWNAROS: Kanoyme ta sxolia poy krinoyme oti prepei na kanoyme.

MPOTSARAKOS: Yfypoyrgwn ths kybernhshs sas dhlwseis sxoliazete sth Boylh;

ANTWNAROS: Na kanete, ean qelete, erwthseis.

MPOTSARAKOS: Na sas rwthsw, loipon, enw to petrelaio qermanshs kai ta kaysima einai ychla kai oi xamhlosyntajioyxoi perimenoyn ean qa dwsete to epidoma, o k. Doykas eipe sth Boylh oti h ayjhsh ths timhs einai mia kalh eykairia na meiwqei h katanalwsh, na meiwqei h zhthsh. Einai sobarh dhlwsh ayth yfypoyrgoy ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Einai apoch toy k. Doyka.

BLAXOS: Einai melos ths kybernhshs o k. Doykas;

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, oi parabiaseis kai oi parabaseis toy enaerioy xwroy ths Elladas einai kaqhmerinh ypoqesh apo toys Toyrkoys. Ta @Imia exoyn ejelixqei se topo peripatoy kai twn aeroskafwn kai twn toyrkikwn ploiwn. Xqes malista ena toyrkiko ploio efqase sta 500 metra. Xqes malista epishmws apo to Parisi, opoy to episkeptetai o k. Erntogan, ekane gia prwth fora mia dhlwsh kai jekaqarise th qesh toy, oson afora ta toyrkika strateymata katoxhs sthn Kypro. Eipe o k. Erntogan:Ta toyrkika strateymata katoxhs den qa fygoyn apo thn Kypro. Dierwtwmai pws antimetwpizei ola ayta ta problhmata h Ellada otan exei taxqei safws kai sygkekrimena yper ths entajiakhs poreias ths Toyrkias.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h dhlwsh poy sas ekana proxqes, sxetika me tis parabiaseis sto Aigaio.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Th dhlwsh toy k. Erntogan den qa thn sxoliazete;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h dhlwsh moy.

BLAXOS: O k. Erntogan prepei na dwsei orismena deigmata gia thn poreia ths Toyrkias pros thn eyrwpaikh entajh. H Ellada exei pei oti sthrizei ayth thn poreia me orismenes proypoqeseis symperiforas ths Toyrkias. Qewreite oti einai mesa stis proypoqeseis -poy exei qesei h Ellada gia na sthrijei thn poreia ths Toyrkias- h katastash poy exei dhmioyrghqei to teleytaio diasthma gyrw apo ta Imia kai h dhlwsh toy k. Erntogan gia ta toyrkika strateymata sthn Kypro;

ANTWNAROS: H stash ths Toyrkias qa ajiologhqei synolika kai oristika stis 17 Dekembrioy 2004.

BLAXOS: Mexri tote einai anoikth kai h stash ths kybernhshs dhladh;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa.

BLAXOS: Einai anoikth kai h stash ths kybernhshs; Einai allo pragma ayto.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. H kybernhsh yposthrizei thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O,ti ki an kanei h Toyrkia, kyrie Ekproswpe;

BLAXOS: Akomh;

ANTWNAROS: H Ellada yposthrizei thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias. H stash ths Toyrkias qa kriqei apo ta krath-melh ths E.E. oristika stis 17 Dekembrioy 2004, sto Eyrwpaiko Symboylio.

PAPADOPOYLOS: O k. Kalkanhs, sto qema poy sas rwthsa prin den apajiwse thn proistamenh toy arxh, to ypoyrgeio Paideias, me to na dhmosiopoihsei thn paraithsh toy se mia efhmerida; Ean den to sxoliazete einai san na moy lete oti meqayrio kai enas ypoyrgos mporei na paraithqei mesw efhmeridas kai na mhn enhmerwsei ton Prwqypoyrgo.

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei epi toy qematos.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, molis pro oligoy plhroforhqhkame oti h ypoyrgos Paideias k. Giannakoy ekane mia merikh anaskeyh h olikh -qa mporoyse na pei kaneis- twn prohgoymenwn dhlwsewn ths sxetika me tis meteggrafes. Ean egw apodidw toylaxiston swsta ta legomena ths, eipe oti oydepote milhse gia katalogo onomatwn gonwn politikwn proswpwn kai oti ta peri antoxhs ths Boylhs kai toy politikoy systhmatos, isxyoyn sthn periptwsh poy emene to systhma etsi. Oloi gnwrizoyme oti oi dhlwseis poy ekane h k. Giannakoy htan sth periptwsh poy doqoyn sth dhmosiothta ta onomata twn gonwn twn politikwn proswpwn. Ti htan ayto poy ypoxrewse na allajei th stash ths kai na probei se anaskeyh twn dhlwsewn ths;

ANTWNAROS: Apodidete mono ena meros twn dhlwsewn poy ekane pro oligoy h k. Giannakoy. Sas lew to ejhs: Einai safhs h koinoboyleytikh diadikasia kai qa thrhqei sto akeraio.

PALAIOLOGOS: Me sygxwreite den katalaba tipota, ep` aytoy.

BLAXOS: Ti ennoeite;

ANTWNAROS: Ennow oti h k. Giannakoy anaferotan se erwthsh poy ths exei ypoblhqei apo thn antipoliteysh sth Boylh. Kai sas lew oti h koinoboyleytikh diadikasia einai safhs, oson afora thn apanthsh se tetoioy eidoys qemata. Kai h koinoboyleytikh diadikasia qa thrhqei.

BLAXOS: Ean katalaba kala, kaleite thn k. Giannakoy na dwsei mesw ths koinoboyleytikhs@

ANTWNAROS: Sas lew oti h koinoboyleytikh diadikasia qa thrhqei. Ayto, allwste, to dhlwse kai xqes o k. Taliadoyros sth Boylh.

BLAXOS: Ara, symfwna me ayto poy lete, ypoxreoytai h k. Giannakoy na dwsei ta onomata, mesw ths@

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai diko sas symperasma.

BLAXOS: To diko sas symperasma poio einai;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti qa thrhqei h koinoboyleytikh diadikasia.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sto prohgoymeno qema: H kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh apo thn ejelijh, apo thn poreia twn ellhno-toyrkikwn sxesewn;

ANTWNAROS: Oi ellhno-toyrkikes sxeseis diamorfwnontai, edw kai arketo kairo, se ena klima antallaghs apocewn kai epafwn. Sas epanalambanw oti h stash ths Toyrkias qa ajiologhqei oristika stis 17 Dekembrioy 2004 sto Symboylio Koryfhs ths E.E.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, tis teleytaies hmeres ginetai ntoros gia thn aisxrokerdeia twn super market. Skopeyei h kybernhsh, xqes htan prwto qema sthn efhmerida ``Eleyqeros Typos'', shmera sthn ``Apofash'', na balei xeri sto kartel twn super market poy kerdoskopoyn eis baros twn katanalwtwn kai twn promhqeytwn;

ANTWNAROS: Opws jerete exoyn ginei sygkekrimenes energeies Ekane xqes safeis dhlwseis gi ayto to qema o k. Papaqanasioy.

SOYGLERHS: Me sygxwreite, edw kai xqes o proedros twn katanalwtwn milhse oti kairos einai na katalaboyn oti kerdoskopoyn apeyqynomenos stoys idiokthtes twn soyper.

ANTWNAROS: Leitoyrgei h Epitroph Antagwnismoy h opoia exei epilhfqei toy sygkekrimenoy qematos.

SIDERHS: Sygnwmh poy qa laikisw ligo alla ormwmenos apo to laikismo poy eixe epideijei h N.D. ws antipoliteysh. Eixate kanei prometwpida to qema toy zeimpekikoy toy k. Papandreoy. Twra me ayta poy ginontai sto Aigaio gyrw apo ta Imia, poio einai pio bary to zeimpekiko toy k. Papandreoy h h koymparia toy k. Karamanlh;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh parakoloyqei poly stena oti ginetai kai probainei stis aparaithtes energeies gia tis opoies sas enhmerwsame proxqes.

TSIODRAS: H stash ths Toyrkias qa ajiologhqei oristika stis 17 Dekembrioy 2004. Ayto to ``oristika'' shmainei o,ti piqanon h ellhnikh stash na metablhqei sthn periptwsh poy h Toyrkia synexisei th sygkekrimenh taktikh;

ANTWNAROS: Den shmainei tipota apolytws. Shmainei ayto poy sas eipa. H apofash se eyrwpaiko epipedo qa lhfqei stis 17 Dekembrioy.

TSIODRAS: H ajiologhsh shmainei oti mporei na ajiologhqei qetika. Ara loipon mporei na synexisoyme th shmerinh taktikh h mporei na ypobaloyme beto;

ANTWNAROS: Ayta einai dika sas symperasmata.

TSIODRAS: Ti allo mporei na shmainei to ``oristika'';

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti h Toyrkia dianyei mia diadromh mexri tis 17 Dekembrioy. Ayth h diadromh dierxetai apo diafora stadia.

GKOYTZANHS: Poy apodidei h Kybernhsh thn ayjanomenh proklhtikothta ths Toyrkias;

ANTWNAROS: Kaname dhlwsh, proxqes, h opoia ejakoloyqei na isxyei.

BLAXOS: Isxyei h proforikh desmeysh twn dyo Prwqypoyrgwn gia meiwsh twn ejoplismwn meta ta osa ginontai;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa exoyn pei oi dyo Prwqypoyrgoi.

BLAXOS: Akomh kai katw apo aytes tis synqhkes; Dhladh Imia kai dhlwsh Erntogan sthn Kypro;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn oi dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Sthn episkech toy k. Karamanlh sthn Kypro, qa syzhthqoyn ola ayta ta qemata; Giati o ellhnokypriakos Typos anaferei oti o k. Karamanlhs qa prospaqhsei na peisei h qa bolidoskophsei thn Kypriakh Kybernhsh an qa balei beto h oxi stis 17 Dekembrioy.

ANTWNAROS: Sthn Kypro qa syzhthqoyn ola ta qemata poy exoyn sxesh me th stenh synergasia Elladas kai Kyproy, poy epibebaiwnetai gia mia akomh fora apo ayth thn episkech.

XIDIROGLOY: Dedomenoy oti edw diakybeyontai polla, poia einai ta oria ths anoxhs ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs sthn toyrkikh proklhtikothta;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa epi toy qematos.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Yparxei diamartyria ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs pros thn toyrkikh gi` ayta ta gegonota;

ANTWNAROS: Diamartyries ginontai opote krinetai oti einai prosforo.

MPOTSARAKOS: Eipate oti qa ajiologhqei oristika, apo thn Ellada h apo thn E.E.;

ANTWNAROS: Opoios parakoloyqei ta politika qemata gnwrizei oti 25 krath-melh ths E.E. qa apofasisoyn stis 17 Dekembrioy ean kai kata poso qa doqei hmeromhnia enarjhs twn entajiakwn diapragmateysewn sthn Toyrkia.

MPOTSARAKOS: H Ellada pote qa apofasisei, kyrie Ekproswpe;

ANTWNAROS: Otan erqei h wra, sta plaisia ths gnwsths politikhs ths.

GKOYTZANHS: H Ellada qa qesei ayto to qema otan qa syzhtietai; Dhladh to zhthma twn parabiasewn;

ANTWNAROS: Na diabasete tis dhlwseis poy kaname proxqes.

BLAXOS: Skeftetai o Prwqypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh na sygkalesei Symboylio Politikwn Arxhgwn, prin dwsei th qesh ths xwras mas gia thn poreia ths Toyrkias;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kati tetoio.

MPOTSARAKOS: Ayth thn wra ginontai dhlwseis apo ton ekproswpo Typoy toy PASOK, opoy kanei mia sklhrh epiqesh sthn kybernhsh gia thn taktikh poy akoloyqhse me th dhmosionomikh apografh, oti qetei th xwra ypo epitropeia, ypo epopteia kai oti qa akoloyqhsei litothta.

ANTWNAROS: Poia akribws einai h erwthsh;

MPOTSARAKOS: Ti apantate stoys politikoys sas antipaloys poy sas kathgoroyn;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto poy diegnwse egkaira h N.D. otan akoma briskotan sthn antipoliteysh kai to exoyn katalabei oloi oi Ellhnes, to antilambanontai twra kai oi Eyrwpaioi eidikoi. Ta stoixeia poy dinontan gia polla xronia htan saqra kai mh peistika, h de eikona ths ellhnikhs oikonomias htan plasmatikh. Ola ta alla einai parafilologia. Oi isxyrismoi oti dhqen h ellhnikh oikonomia mpainei se epithrhsh einai ek toy ponhroy kai den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta. Prokeitai, dystyxws, gia mia syneidhth prospaqeia na epikalyfqoyn apo toys drastes xwris omws epityxia, oi dysarestes synepeies ths dhqen dhmioyrgikhs logistikhs twn kybernhsewn toy PASOK poy exoyn -opws tonise prin apo ligo o k. Alogoskoyfhs- terasties politikes eyqynes. H kybernhsh apo thn prwth stigmh eixe ypogrammisei thn proqesh ths na meiwsei to elleimma kai qa to prajei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den qewreite oti telika olh ayth h sygxysh gia to poios edwse ta plasmatika stoixeia sthn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, an ofeiletai telika kai se ayta poy edwse h shmerinh kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Diabaste leptomerws ta prwtotypa keimena apo to A mexri to W kai qa deite.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kai o Germanos k. Aixel kai o armodios Epitropos exoyn pei oti ta stoixeia poy exoyn doqei kai ta teleytaia den apodidoyn thn safh eikona ths pragmatikothtas.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa na diabasete ta keimena.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh qewreite oti h kybernhsh toy k. Karamanlh den exei eyqynh ston tropo poy diaxeiristhke thn eikona ths ellhnikhs oikonomias;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei prajei to kaqhkon ths sto akeraio.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to elleimma poso qa meiwqei; Giati oi Eyrwpaioi exoyn allh gnwmh. Gia to 2005 lene oti den qa ta kataferei h Ellada.

ANTWNAROS: Pepoiqhsh mas einai oti qa meiwqei.

GKOYTZANHS: Yphrje kybernhtikh parembash h noyqesia pros ton k. Giannelh kai tropopoihse th qesh toy sthn epitroph h toy hrqe h epifoithsh toy Agioy Pneymatos kai allaje mesa se mia mera;

ANTWNAROS: Den jerw ti parakinhse ton k. Giannelh na kanei kai allh dhlwsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mhpws gnwrizete ti htan ekeino poy parakinhse ton Arxiepiskopo k. Xristodoylo na probei se dhlwseis oti kapoioi ton fimwnoyn, toy sfragizoyn to stoma, den ton afhnoyn na milhsei, den mporei na aisqanqei eleyqeros;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na ermhneysw dhlwseis toy Arxiepiskopoy. Oi sxeseis Ekklhsias kai Politeias briskontai sto kalytero dynato shmeio. Einai sxeseis allhlosebasmoy kai allhlokatanohshs.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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