Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-10-21

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Aqhna, 21 Oktwbrioy 2004

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio stis 11:30, qa exei synergasia sto Megaro Majimoy me ton yfypoyrgo Politismoy Petro Tatoylh kai ton Geniko Grammatea toy ypoyrgeioy Politismoy Xrhsto Zaxopoylo.

Meta apo prosklhsh toy Proedroy ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Tassoy Papadopoyloy, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei thn Kypro stis 12 kai 13 Noembrioy.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, otan htan sthn antipoliteysh h Nea Dhmokratia, eixe kataggeilei epaneilhmmenws to PASOK gia tis tropologies- ``ntropologies'' malista tis elege- poy kateqete se asxeta nomosxedia. Xqes, syzhthqhke se nomosxedio to opoio eixe 12 asxetes ``ntropologies'', opws tis legate. Kat` arxhn, ayto. Ena deytero, synafes me ayto, einai oti to sxetiko nomosxedio katateqhke prin apo peripoy dyo ebdomades, stis 9 to brady, sth Boylh, otan htan kleisth. Profanws gia na piasei ston ypno toys boyleytes twn allwn kommatwn; Kai h meqodeysh ayth, poy htan apo ton Grammatea toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy kai apo toys synarmodioys ypoyrgoys, htan se gnwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: Kat` arxas, tipota den ginetai en kryptw. Oles oi tropologies, oles oi ryqmiseis poy pernoyn, einai apotelesma synolikhs doyleias ths kybernhshs.

SIDERHS: Einai anabaqmish toy Koinoboylioy ayth h praktikh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Mia apo tis tropologies aforoyse kai th dhmioyrgia Projeneioy sthn Tampa ths Flwrinta. Kapoioi boyleytes toy PASOK exoyn anaferqei se ayto to shmeio, legontas oti einai mia kinhsh h opoia qa eyxaristhsei proeklogika toys peripoy 120.000 Ellhnoamerikanoys poy zoyn sth Flwrinta, pairnontas to Projeneio apo th Nea Orleanh kai phgainontas to sthn Tampa ths Flwrinta.

ANTWNAROS: Prokeitai gia apolyth paranohsh, poly piqanon kai hqelhmenh diastreblwsh mias pragmatikothtas. Metaferetai h edra enos Projeneioy apo mia polh, opoy yparxei mikrh ellhnikh paroysia, se mia allh polh opoy, osoi gnwrizoyn thn Amerikh, jeroyn poly kala oti zoyn para polloi omogeneis. Synepws, einai mia orqologikh apofash poy stoxeyei apokleistika sthn ejyphrethsh twn symferontwn ths omogeneias.

TSIODRAS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw se sxesh me thn topoqethsh toy k. Giannelh, xqes sth Boylh. Eipe oti den apoteloyn ta dyo eisaggelika porismata bash gia th syzhthsh. Den mporw na katalabw, loipon, pws h Nea Dhmokratia proteinei th systash ejetastikhs epitrophs me bash dyo porismata, ta opoia, opws leei enas apo toys ekproswpoys sas sthn ejetastikh epitroph, den mporoyn na apotelesoyn bash syzhthshs kai oti h syzhthsh qa jekinhsei apo thn arxh.

ANTWNAROS: Sxolia pros th dikastikh ejoysia den einai symbata me th leitoyrgia toy politeymatos. Den epitrepetai se kanena na amfisbhtei thn anejarthsia ths Dikaiosynhs. Den qa sxoliasw proswpikes kriseis, oi opoies profanws diatypwqhkan me laqos tropo. Einai safes oti h ejetastikh epitroph prepei na leitoyrghsei xwris prokatalhch kai na diereynhsei ola ta endeiknyomena stoixeia.

BLAXOS: H Kybernhsh kai o Prwqypoyrgos sthrizoyn ton k. Zormpa sth leitoyrgia toy sto xwro toy ypoyrgeioy Amynas kai se ayta poy kanei;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Zormpas einai Genikos Grammateas toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas.

BLAXOS: Ton sthrizei o Prwqypoyrgos; Exei thn empistosynh toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

BLAXOS: Se ayta poy kanei, exei thn empistosynh toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ep` aytoy, o k. Giannelhs arxika ekane ayth thn topoqethsh sth Boylh. Shmera to prwi, epanelabe thn idia topoqethsh toy sto radiofwniko staqmo FLASH. En tw metajy, den enhmerwqhke apo thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Tipota peran aytoy.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pera apo to an eprepe h den eprepe na ginoyn ta sxolia kai ta loipa, yparxei kai h oysia. H ejetastikh epitroph, basei toy Kanonismoy ths Boylhs, sygkroteitai gia na diereynhsei tis diapistwseis toy Eisaggelea gia piqana politika proswpa. Ean o k. Giannelhs leei oti prepei apo thn arxh na kanoyme thn ereyna, ayto shmainei poly apla oti mporei na odhghqoyme kai se diaforetiko porisma ap` ayto poy exei h Boylh ypoch ths kai gia to opoio kanei ejetastikh epitroph.

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka epi toy qematos.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den amfisbhteitai, omws, etsi o stoxos kai to periexomeno ths ejetastikhs epitrophs;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa gia ta sygkekrimena qemata. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

BLAXOS: Epeidh lete oti o k. Giannelhs ejefrase proswpikes apoceis me laqos tropo, mhpws qa qelate na mas peite poios qa htan o swstos tropos, basei toy opoioy qa eprepe o k. Giannelhs na diatypwsei tis proswpikes toy apoceis;

ANTWNAROS: Oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias leitoyrgoyn syllogika sthn epitroph.

BLAXOS: Den exoyn proswpikh apoch;

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws kai exoyn.

BLAXOS: Apagoreyetai ayto; Poios qa krinei oti einai laqos o tropos poy diatypwqhke;

ANTWNAROS: Allh erwthsh.

XIDHROGLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me eggrafo toy to opoio ferei hmeromhnia 15.10.2004, o perifereiakos dieyqynths Ekpaideyshs Dytikhs Ellados k. Qeodwros Mpirmpas zhtei apo ta grafeia Deyterobaqmias Ekpaideyshs Axaias, Aitwloakarnanias kai Hleias kai toys dieyqyntes twn sxoleiwn h epilogh shmaioforwn na ginei me th deoysa prosoxh, idiws otan afora allodapoys maqhtes, prokeimenoy na apofeyxqoyn entaseis me tis topikes koinwnies. H erwthsh moy einai h ejhs: Einai proqesh ths Kybernhshs na efarmostei o nomos h na apofeyxqoyn antiparaqeseis me tis topikes koinwnies;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa xqes. Isxyei h xqesinh apanthsh moy. Yparxei shmerinh dhlwsh ths k. Giannakoy, sthn opoia kai sas parapempw. Yparxei, allwste, kai eggrafo toy Eidikoy Grammatea toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn gia to idio qema, to opoio, bazei oristikh teleia sto qema.

KAKALHS: Poia prosqeta metra qa paroysiasei h kybernhsh sto ECOFIN, stis 5 Noembrioy, gia na peisei th dyspisth Commission oti qa rijei to elleimma sto 2,8% toy AEP to 2005 opws exei proanaggeilei;

ANTWNAROS: Perimenete na deite pws qa topoqethqei h kybernhsh. H amfisbhthsh poy ginetai aytes tis hmeres afora safws to parelqon. To diapistwnoyn eykola osoi mpoyn ston kopo na diabasoyn ta plhrh keimena kai den exoyn thn tash na diastreblwnoyn thn pragmatikothta, apokrybontas akoma kai thn ekdosh kratikwn omologwn, ycoys, opws jerete, megalwn poswn. Zhmia gia th xwra prokalese h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh. Apodeiknyetai, malista, apo ta epishma eggrafa ths Epitrophs xqes, poso egklhmatikh htan h kontofqalmh apokrych ths pragmatikothtas kai h dhmioyrgia mias plasmatikhs eikonas gia thn oikonomia. H kybernhsh exei apodyqei se systhmatikh prospaqeia gia na diasfalisei thn ajiopistia ths xwras kai na qesei ypo elegxo, tis synepeies ths epizhmias taktikhs twn kybernhsewn toy PASOK.

KAKALHS: Afhnete, dhladh, anoikto to endexomeno na paroysiasei prosqeta metra sto ECOFIN.

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa.

GKOYTZANHS: Poia einai h zhmia poy proklhqhke gia th xwra mas; Giati eipate oti th zhmia thn prokalese h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh.

ANTWNAROS: Diabaste to keimeno kai qa katalabete se ti anaferomai.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh, amfisbhteite ws kybernhsh ta stoixeia poy eixan doqei sto parelqon apo tis kybernhseis Shmith, oson afora thn entajh ths xwras mas sthn ONE;

ANTWNAROS: Diabaste to keimeno kai qa deite se poies periodoys anaferetai.

BLAXOS: Efoson lete oti yparxei zhmia sth xwra apo th shmerinh antipoliteysh, ara oi proeklogikes desmeyseis toy k. Karamanlh htan se laqos bash kai h kybernhsh epanejetazei tis proeklogikes desmeyseis;

ANTWNAROS: Rwthqhka prin apo liges hmeres gia to idio akribws qema kai apanthsa. H kybernhsh qa meinei pisth sto kybernhtiko programma poy exei anakoinwsei. Ola osa exei anakoinwsei oti qa kanei, qa ta kanei. Yparxoyn tropoi, wste, me peristolh twn dapanwn na ejeyreqoyn oi poroi ekeinoi poy xreiazontai gia na efarmostei to programma ths.

XONDROS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai eyxaristhmenos apo tis tropologies poy hrqan sth Boylh gia chfish, dhladh, me to gegonos oti h kybernhsh leitoyrgei me tropo poy ton kathggeile otan htan sthn antipoliteysh;

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei kai den prokeitai na epanelqw sto qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mexri prin apo liges hmeres, akomh kai xqes, mas anakoinwsate oti opoy na einai anamenetai h kataqesh toy forologikoy kai anaptyjiakoy nomoy@

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ``opoy na einai''. Einai dikh sas frash.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ennow ews to telos toy xronoy, akomh xeirotero. Giati den perimene h kybernhsh, wste na entajei tis tropologies -poy kata to pleiston aforoyn ryqmiseis forologikwn qematwn- sto kyriws forologiko nomosxedio;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa. Den prokeitai na epanelqw sto qema twn tropologiwn.

SIDERHS: Den qa epanelqete, den qa mas peite ean htan parembash sto ergo ths Dikaiosynhs; Giati perimenoyme mia dikastikh apofash.

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei.

SIDERHS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs eipe oti me to spaqi mas mphkame sthn ONE. Isxyei ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei, opws akribws to eipe.

SIDERHS: Ara, ti kako ekane h prohgoymenh kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Exw thn entypwsh oti den exete diabasei se poies periodoys anaferetai to sygkekrimeno keimeno. Gi ayto sas epanalambanw: Diabaste to.

GALIATSATOS: Epeidh diabasa ta keimena, kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Almoynia amfisbhtei eyqews kai ta stoixeia poy dwsate, ws kybernhsh, sthn episkech toy klimakioy ths Eurostat, stis 22-23 Oktwbrioy. Ep` aytoy ti exete na mas peite;

ANTWNAROS: Nomizw oti diastreblwnete ayto poy grafetai sto keimeno.

GALIATSATOS: Den diastreblwnw tipota kyrie Ekproswpe. Einai proswpikh sas krish. O k. Almoynia leei, epi lejei, sto aggliko keimeno oti den emeina ikanopoihmenos apo ta stoixeia.

ANTWNAROS: Den amfisbhtei ta stoixeia. Endexomenws, qelei symplhrwtika stoixeia. Ayto qelw na sas pw. Gi ayto sas lew na diabasete prosektika to keimeno.

GALIATSATOS: Eseis toy dwsate ta stoixeia.

ANTWNAROS: Etsi opws exei paralabei h kybernhsh th Statistikh Yphresia apo toys prokatoxoys ths, einai poly dyskolo na ejeyreqoyn amesws stoixeia, ta opoia einai plhrh kai ajiopista.

GALIATSATOS: Poso kairo qa xreiasteite, wste na mporeite na dinete ta ajiopista stoixeia;

ANTWNAROS: Allh erwthsh;

XONDROS: Prin apo dyo hmeres to ESR anesteile proswrina gia ena mhna th leitoyrgia toy radiostaqmoy PLANET. Ti skopeyei na kanei h kybernhsh giati edw exoyme 80 apolymenoys, poy briskontai sto dromo, polloi apo aytoys gia 6 mhnes einai aplhrwtoi kai kyriws ti skopeyei na kanei gia to gegonos oti enas idiwths poy den einai entajei stis ypoxrewseis toy karpwnetai dhmosio agaqo, poy einai h syxnothta;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh yposthrizei to dikaiwma twn ergazomenwn na diekdikhsoyn me kaqe nomimo tropo kai na paroyn ta dedoyleymena toys. Afoy melethsei to qema, qa anakoinwsei thn oristikh topoqethsh ths.

SIDERHS: Pera apo to qema ths syxnothtas, yparxei kai to ergasiako. Einai aplhrwtoi toso kairo. Ti kanei gi ayto to qema h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh den einai ergodoths twn sygkekrimenwn ergazomenwn. O PLANET einai idiwtikh epixeirhsh, opote akoloyqoyntai oi diadikasies poy isxyoyn gia oles tis idiwtikes epixeirhseis.

TSIODRAS: Eixate pei oti den exete enhmerwqei ean yparxei fakelos gia tis meteggrafes sto ypoyrgeio Paideias. Qa hqela na rwthsw ean yparxei aytos o fakelos, ean kai pote qa katateqei sth Boylh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa kai proxqes oti den exw gnwsh tetoioy fakeloy. Menw se ayth th dhlwsh.

TSIODRAS: Eixate pei, omws, sto mesodiasthma oti qa enhmerwqeite.

ANTWNAROS: Afoy enhmerwqhka, sas lew oti den exw gnwsh tetoioy fakeloy.

BLAXOS: Dhladh, rwthsate thn k. Giannakoy kai sas eipe oti den yparxei;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa sas pw ti erwthseis kanw ws kybernhtikos ekproswpos.

BLAXOS: Einai poly shmantiko na sas leei h k. Giannakoy oti den yparxei.

ANTWNAROS: Oses fores kai ean me rwthsete to idio qa sas apanthsw.

TSIODRAS: Yparxei mia diafora: Lete oti den gnwrizete ean yparxei tetoios fakelos@

ANTWNAROS: Lew oti den exw gnwsh tetoioy fakeloy.

TSIODRAS: Ayto shmainei oti den yparxei aytos o fakelos h eseis den gnwrizete to fakelo; Gia na katalabw.

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa.

BLAXOS: Einai poly shmantiko, kyrie Ekproswpe, na dieykrinisete ean gia thn kybernhsh den yparxei tetoios fakelos, ara h ypoyrgos Paideias leei cemata gia to qema twn meteggrafwn h ean sas eipe h k. Giannakoy oti den sas ton dinei. To na mhn dinei mia ypoyrgos to fakelo ston kybernhtiko ekproswpo kai sthn kybernhsh einai terastio qema.

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa. Den exw gnwsh tetoioy fakeloy.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, giati h k. Giannakoy den bgainei na diaceysei h na epibebaiwsei an yparxei fakelos; Na kalycei kai esas kai thn Kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Den einai qema kalycews. Alimono an h Kybernhsh h egw proswpika perimenoyme kalych apo kapoion.

SOYGLERHS: Tote loipon giati afhnei to qema na aiwreitai kai na dhmioyrgei asxhmh eikona stoys goneis, toys maqhtes@

ANTWNAROS: Milate gia fakelo kai sas apantw gia fakelo.

MIXAHL: H k. Giannakoy exei kanei dhlwseis epi toy qematos, proxqes apo thn Albania. Mporeite na moy peite parakalw ean isxyoyn oi dhlwseis ths; Dhlwse poly sygkekrimena oti h apanthsh sto qema ayto qa doqei dia ths koinoboyleytikhs odoy. Exei zhthsei apo ta Panepisthmia ola ta stoixeia ta opoia, ws ofeilei, qa diabibasei mesw ths koinoboyleytikhs odoy. H erwthsh poy qetw egw einai: Sygkentrwse h k. Giannakoy kai oi Yphresies ths ta stoixeia apo ta Panepisthmia;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, gia na mhn exei apanthsei mesw ths koinoboyleytikhs odoy, den qa ta exei sygkentrwsei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Sto idio qema: H k. Giannakoy, tis proalles, ekane mia dhlwsh prokatalambanontas sthn oysia olo ton politiko kosmo kai tis diaqeseis toy politikoy kosmoy, apeilwntas -opws eipa egw- oti qa bgalei ta stoixeia poy mporoyn na rijoyn to politiko systhma h na to tarakoynhsoyn. Kai lew: einai hqika deontologiko na probainei se mia tetoia dhlwsh, th stigmh poy opws lete eseis den exei profanws sygkentrwsei ta stoixeia;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa probw egw se ajiologikes ektimhseis san kai aytes poy kanete eseis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Rwtw an einai hqika deontologiko.

ANTWNAROS: Ejantlhsa ayto to qema. Na proxwrhsoyme se allo qema.

BLAXOS: Nomizw oti to qema to ejantloyme otan qeloyme emeis. Emeis qa stamathsoyme tis erwthseis.

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa.

BLAXOS: Qelw na rwthsw esas. Den eiste bebaia politikos, alla eiste politiko proswpo pleon. Den sas prosbalei san politiko andra to gegonos oti mia Ypoyrgos bgainei kai leei oti an dwsw ta stoixeia twn meteggrafwn den qa antejei h Boylh ayto to baros; Dhladh, o aplos Ellhnas poliths otan blepei mia Ypoyrgo na kalyptei endexomenws mh nomimes diadikasies politikwn, ti skeptetai kai ti mporei na leei;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw ta ayqaireta symperasmata sta opoia katalhgete.

BLAXOS: Eseis se poio symperasma katalhjate, epeidh egw eimai ayqairetos, otan akoysate thn k. Giannakoy na leei ayta ta pragmata; Oti oi politikoi einai yperanw twn Nomwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio.

KAKALHS: Qa mporoysate na mas perigracete to dogma eswterikhs asfaleias poy proanhggeile xqes to brady o Prwqypoyrgos sthn ekdhlwsh ths EL.AS.; Poia einai h filosofia toy; Poios einai o exqros poy stoxeyei, k.l.p;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na ermhneysw ton Prwqypoyrgo.

KAKALHS: Na perigracete to dogma.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa eipe o Prwqypoyrgos.

Sas eyxaristw.

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