Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-09-24

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Aqhna, 24 Septembrioy 2004

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Kat` arxas, na sygxaroyme ton Ellhna aqlhth twn Paraolympiakwn Agwnwn Xrhsto Aggoyrakh gia to xalkino metallio sth sfairobolia.

Qa hqela na kanw mia dhlwsh gia to qema poy anekyce xqes kai afora to PASOK.

Kalesa xqes ton k. Papandreoy na apopemcei ton k. Boygia gia th gnwsth ypoqesh meteggrafhs poy eide to fws ths dhmosiothtas. O idios o k. Boygias paredexqh oti egine h meteggrafh, xwris na sthrizetai se kapoio nomo.

O k. Papandreoy den exei apanthsei akomh. Qelw na shmeiwsw oti ayth einai h diafora hqoys sthn opoia anaferqhka kai xqes me aformh allo qema. To hqos to opoio epaggelletai o k. Papandreoy, fainetai oti einai mono synqhma kai oxi antilhch zwhs.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

TSIODRAS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean yparxei kapoio qema, sxetika me thn paroysia toy k. Kaloy sthn epimaxh synanthsh poy egine sto Panteio Panepisthmio me ton prytanh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Kalos ekane xqes ekteneis dhlwseis. Den exw logo na amfisbhthsw ta osa eipe.

SIDERHS: Sas hrqe ej oyranoy h eykairia me ton k. Boygia, alla epixeireite na ejomoiwsete dyo mh isobareis katastaseis. H mia einai mia ekdhlwsh enos syntexniakoy pneymatos poy dystyxws yparxei sth neoellhnikh pragmatikothta kai h allh einai mia politikws parabatikh symperifora, toso gia toys logoys poy eteqhsan, oso kai gia to gegonos oti synodeyotan apo enan estw boyleyth, estw oxi ypoyrgo. Den einai isobareis oi dyo katastaseis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto afora th dikh sas ajiologikh krish. Sthn ajiologikh krish olwn twn Ellhnwn o nomos prepei na threitai. O k. Tsitoyridhs eixe thn parrhsia, to qarros, thn eyqijia na ypobalei thn paraithsh toy. O k. Boygias paranomwntas o idios proswpika, oxi monon den epedeije eyqijia, alla prospaqhse na mas peisei oti afoy dhqen ``eqimikw dikaiw'' ginontai meteggrafes gia oloys kai oloi paranomoyn, giati na mhn paranomhsei ki aytos. Ean o k. Papandreoy qelei na exei dipla toy enan tetoio synergath einai diko toy qema.

SIDERHS: To na systhnei o k. Kalos ton k. Tsitoyridh kapoy einai nomimo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H systash enos proswpoy pros ena allo, den einai paranomh prajh, ontas boyleytes kai oi dyo ths Antipoliteyshs de.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o prwhn prytanhs toy Panteioy Panepisthmioy, o k. Baboyras, anefere kai dhmosiws se kapoies apo tis thleoptikes emfaniseis toy oti gia thn meteggrafh toy yioy toy k. Tsitoyridh elhfqhsan ypoch oxi monon oi logoi asfaleias, alla kai proswpikoi logoi toys opoioys epeidh aptontai twn eyaisqhtwn proswpikwn dedomenwn den mporoyse na ekqesei. H erwthsh einai: O Prwqypoyrgos otan dexqhke thn paraithsh poy toy ypebale o k. Tsitoyridhs gnwrize aytoys toys eyaisqhtoys proswpikoys logoys; Kai epishs eseis, ws armodios gia thn epikoinwniakh politikh, toys gnwrizate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ean yparxoyn proswpikoi logoi toys opoioys o k. Tsitoyridhs exei anaptyjei ston Prwqypoyrgo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Meta ta osa exoyn ginei gnwsta mexri shmera, o k. Karamanlhs exei allajei gnwmh gia thn apodoxh ths paraithshs toy k. Tsitoyridh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas ypenqymizw oti o k. Tsitoyridhs ypebale thn paraithsh toy gia logoys eyqijias kai o Prwqypoyrgos thn ekane apodekth.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, toy ejhghse omws kai proswpika. Otan toy ejhghse proswpika den toy eixe pei aytoys toys logoys poy bgainoyn twra sth dhmosiothta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa. Den to gnwrizw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Boylgarakhs, giati ekeinh thn hmera biasthke na pei oti den yparxei qema asfaleias gia to gio Tsitoyridh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den jerw an biasthke o k. Boylgarakhs, opws lete eseis. Ayto poy gnwrizw einai oti polloi dhmosiografoi epikoinwnhsan me to Grafeio Typoy toy ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs kai erwthsan an yphrxe tetoio aithma.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H apanthsh htan ``epishmoi kykloi'' toy ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs. Oi epishmoi den yparxei allos, apo ton ypoyrgo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H apanthsh didetai me aformh kapoia erwthsh. Eipa oti erwthqhke to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs kai apanthse.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai kati akomh gia ton k. Boylgarakh. Shmera egine dektos apo ton Prwqypoyrgo. Mhpws jeroyme poio htan to antikeimeno, giati ton kalese, yparxei kapoio problhma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos synomilei syxna kai synergazetai me toys ypoyrgoys gia qemata ths armodiothtas toys. Den kanw eidikes anakoinwseis gia tetoioy eidoys synanthseis.

BASILOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, exei dhmioyrghqei ena klima me aformh thn ypoqesh Tsitoyridh, to opoio qa legame oti einai klima jekaqarismatos politikwn logariasmwn metajy toy politikoy kosmoy, kyriws metajy twn boyleytwn twn dyo megalwn kommatwn. H kybernhsh to katadikazei ayto to klima; Kai ginetai ayth h prospaqeia poy dhmioyrgei ayth thn aisqhsh ejokoinoboyleytika. Den katatiqentai pleon erwthseis meta thn ypoqesh Tsitoyridh. Den ginetai, dhladh, mesa sthn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia h opoiadhpote apokalych. To apotelesma einai na diasyretai to miso Koinoboylio apo xqes to apogeyma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kaneis den xairetai ean yparxei diasyrmos ths politikhs zwhs toy topoy. Qelw na shmeiwsw, omws -gia na qymomaste ta gegonota- oti apo pleyras Neas Dhmokratias den eteqh to qema, poy lete. Politikh kai proswpikh epiqesh enantion toy k. Tsitoyridh ekane boyleyths toy PASOK. En synexeia, h dhmosiografikh ereyna apokalyce thn periptwsh Boygia. Den yphrje erwthsh apo pleyras ths Neas Dhmokratias.

BASILOPOYLOS: Symfwneite na synexistei ayto to klima; To katadikazete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Molis ekana sxolio gi` ayto to klima.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qelw na rwthsw kat` arxhn ean yparxei ereyna sthn kateyqynsh toy endexomenoy doliofqoras gia thn ypoqesh SINOYK.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H ereyna synexizetai. Kata synepeia kaneis den mporei na exei gnwsh toy antikeimenoy, efoson ayth den exei oloklhrwqei.

SPYRAKH: Den apokleiete, dhladh, to endexomeno doliofqoras;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me rwthsate ti gnwrizw gia thn ereyna kai sas apanthsa. Den mporw na apokleisw, oyte na apodexqw tipota ws stoixeio h ws plhroforia.

SPYRAKH: To PASOK, opws anakoinwse prin apo ligo protiqetai na kataqesei sth Boylh ena aithma pros thn k. Giannakoy, prokeimenoy na doqoyn sth dhmosiothta ta onomata twn paidiwn, twn dhmosiwn proswpwn poy exoyn zhthsei kai parei meteggrafh. Eseis, synaineite se mia tetoia kateyqynsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den jerw ayto to aithma, alla profanws to PASOK agnoei oti aytoy toy eidoys oi prajeis ginontai apo ta Panepisthmia kai oxi apo ta ypoyrgeia. H k. Giannakoy exei kanei safh thn proqesh ths na allajei to qesmiko plaisio sthn kateyqynsh ths aysthrothtas kai ths antikeimenikopoihshs twn stoixeiwn poy synodeyoyn mia aithsh gia meteggrafh foithtoy.

XIDIROGLOY: Pws skopeyei h kybernhsh apo edw kai pera na antimetwpisei ta synexh aithmata ths bashs ths Neas Dhmokratias. Prin apo liges wres yphrje mia synanthsh, sto Megaro Majimoy, metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths N.D., k. Stayroy, o opoios ejerxomenos toy Megaroy Majimoy, an den kanw laqos, xarakthrise anqrwpino to gegonos oti yparxoyn aithmata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai paralogo na yparxoyn aithmata; Ma, edw se erwthmata, dhladh aithmata apantw ki egw. Alimono! Einai paralogo na yparxoyn aithmata; To eipa kai xqes ayto.

XIDIROGLOY: Skopeyei, omws, h kybernhsh na kanei kati gi` ayto; Giati, blepoyme oti askoyntai pieseis, aithmata genikws apo th bash ths N.D. se olh th xwra.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh exei mia kaqorismenh politikh kai ayth qa thn akoloyqhsei. Sto qema poy me rwtate, o Prwqypoyrgos exei parei qesh sth Qessalonikh.

SPYRAKH: Yparxei ena qema edw, gia na mhn apantate se kati poy den einai akribws etsi: Lexqhke se sxesh me ta paidia twn boyleytwn oti yparxei ena aithma kai einai anqrwpino, opws eipe o k. Stayroy. Kai ena deytero qema poy ebale o k. Stayroy einai ena qema leitoyrgias ths kybernhshs me thn ennoia oti qa prepei na yparxei mia beltiwsh. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gi ayta ta dyo zhthmata;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eyxaristw para poly gia thn dieykrinish, h opoia bohqa na katalaboyme oti einai teleiws diaforetiko to qema poy eqese o k. Stayroy, apo ayto poy erwthqhka. Ara, kalws kanw poy den sxoliazw, ean den exw diabasei thn opoiadhpote dhlwsh. Qa parakalesw, loipon, na mhn lhfqei ws apanthsh h prohgoymenh dhlwsh moy, giati anafereste se teleiws diaforetiko qema, opws antilambanomai. Qa enhmerwqw gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Stayroy.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, na epanelqoyme sto prohgoymeno qema toy k. Tsitoyridh. Dhmosieyetai shmera sthn efhmerida ``Apofash'' mia dhmoskophsh, poy ta apotelesmata ths -me aformh to qema Tsitoyridh- einai idiaiterws ikanopoihtika gia thn kybernhsh kai ton Kwsta Karamanlh. Symmerizetai h kybernhsh ayth thn apoch, ayth th qesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oyte ws ekproswpos ths antipoliteyshs, oyte ws ekproswpos ths kybernhshs, sxoliasa kai sxoliazw dhmoskophseis. Qewrw oti einai xrhsima ergaleia kai bohqoyn sth lhch apofasewn. Einai yposthriktika ergaleia gia thn politikh zwh toy topoy. Opws elege kai enas megalos politikos andras, oi dhmoskophseis moiazoyn me tis kolonies. Einai eyxaristes otan tis myrizeis, kai poly epikindynes otan tis katapineis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai agasth h synergasia ths kybernhshs me thn Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths N.D.;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws kai einai agasth.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati oi boyleytes alla kataggelloyn, oti den briskoyn ypoyrgoys treis mhnes kai bazoyn ``meso'' ton Grammatea ths K.O. gia na synanthqoyn me enan ypoyrgo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exei perielqei se gnwsh mas tetoia kataggelia. Qa hqela na yparxei pantote kalh synergasia, metajy twn ypoyrgwn kai twn boyleytwn ths N.D. kai genikotera metajy ths kybernhshs kai twn boyleytwn toy ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy, oi opoioi, apo opoio komma ki an proerxontai, ekproswpoyn toys Ellhnes polites.

GKOYTZANHS: Me dedomeno oti o k. Baboyras exei kai synenteyjh shmera se apogeymatinh efhmerida, opoy epimenei pws h synanthsh me toys kyrioys Kalo kai Tsitoyridh egine otan htan ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs, mhpws h kybernhsh epeidh exei ayjhmenh eyaisqhsia sta qemata hqikhs tajews, skopeyei na zhthsei na ginei kapoia pio leptomerhs ereyna gia na diapistwqei pote telika egine ayth h synanthsh kai ean endexomenws yparxoyn eyqynes toy k. Kaloy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa prohgoymenws oti den qa amfisbhthsw ta osa dhlwse o k. Kalos. Exei kanei antistoixh dhlwsh kai o k. Tsitoyridhs. O prwhn Prytanhs toy Panteioy Panepisthmioy, xqes, eipe pws den einai apolytws bebaios, den qymatai. Kata synepeia ayto poy moy lete shmera, oti ``epimenei'', erxetai se anantistoixia me ayto poy ton akoysa na leei xqes.

KAKALHS: Pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti mia filika proskeimenh sth N.D. efhmerida, sas katalogizei proswpikes eyqynes sthn ypoqesh apopomphs toy k. Tsitoyridh kai zhta thn apomakrynsh sas apo to Megaro Majimoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei h dhlwsh poy ekana thn Tetarth 22 Septembrioy.

KAKALHS: Exei pei o k. Tsitoyridhs oti den yparxei qema nomimothtas kai to exete yioqethsei ki eseis. Pws, loipon, den yperaspisthkate to stelexos ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei ejantlhqei to qema apo th stigmh poy o k. Tsitoyridhs ekane dhlwseis.

GEROPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na epanelqw sto qema toy ``SINOYK''. Ean den apatwmai thn prohgoymenh ebdomada se sxetikh erwthsh, eixate dhlwsei oti oles oi endeijeis odhgoyn sto endexomeno texnikhs blabhs kai oxi ``sampotaz'' h doliofqoras. Isxyei ayth h dhlwsh sas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den milhsa pote gia ``oles tis endeijeis''. Eixa pei epi lejei oti apo tis prwtes endeijeis, opws me enhmerwse to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynhs, yparxei ayto to endexomeno.

GEROPOYLOS: Isxyei h dhlwsh sas ayth;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw peraiterw stoixeia, den gnwrizw ti exei apokalycei kai se poio shmeio exei fqasei mexri stigmhs h ereyna. Otan oloklhrwqei, qa gnwrizoyme ean ayth h prwth endeijh poy mas doqhke thn epomenh hmera toy dystyxhmatos, einai telikws akribhs h oxi.

XIWTHS: Sxoliazontas, xqes, tis dhlwseis ths kas Damanakh eixate pei oti to syndikalistiko kinhma prepei na parameinei akhdemoneyto. Anarwtiemai, an sas problhmatizei oti h syndikalistikh paratajh poy ekfrazei th Nea Dhmokratia kai einai h DAKE, ekfrazetai m@ ayton ton tropo, apaitwntas diorismoys oxi mono ``galaziwn paidiwn'', alla kai syggenikwn toys proswpwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ejantlhsa to qema, apantwntas xqes.

XIWTHS: H xqesinh apanthsh sas den apantoyse sto erwthma an ekfrazei h syndikalistikh paratajh sas kai thn Kybernhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti den exoyme skopo na khdemoneysoyme to syndikalismo, opws alla kommata apopeiraqhkan sto parelqon. Oi syndikalistes einai eleyqeroi, opws kaqe eleyqeros poliths se ena dhmokratiko politeyma, na ypobaloyn aithmata.

XIWTHS: Na ypoqesw, synepws, oti ekfrazei kai tis arxes ths Neas Dhmokratias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den jerw ti qa ypoqesete, sas lew poia einai h apanthsh sto erwthma poy moy ypobalate shmera.

KOLLIOPOYLOY: Se synexeia twn dhlwsewn, xqes, toy k. Ferxoigken meta th synanthsh me ton k. Erntogan, h Ellada einai etoimh na pei ena jekaqaro ``nai'' sthn ypochfiothta ths Toyrkias, para to qema ths Kyproy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H Ellada einai yper ths eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs ths Toyrkias. To exoyme dhlwsei polles fores.

KOLLIOPOYLOY: Ektos apo thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh, poy einai mia genikh arxh, rwtw an mporei na pei ena jekaqaro ``nai'', para to qema ths Kyproy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, einai poly sygkekrimeno, giati to erwthma tiqetai ypo to prisma oti h Toyrkia qelei na ginei melos ths E.E. kai na arxisoyn oi entajiakes diapragmateyseis. Exoyme pei oti den qa feroyme antirrhsh sthn enarjh twn entajiakwn diapragmateysewn.

SIDERHS: Sto qema DAKE, otan mia syndikalistikh paratajh bazei tetoia aithmata, den nomizete oti exei apoklinei apo to rolo ths kai apo to rolo poy kaqorizei to syndikalistiko kinhma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den protiqemai oyte na logokrinw, oyte na sxoliasw energeies syndikalistikwn forewn.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, katalabainw oti einai lepth h qesh sas, h synadelfos eipe proxqes oti eiste sthn perimetro toy kyklwna kai etsi einai. Deixnei na eiste sto epikentro mias diamaxhs kai na dexeste synexws epiqeseis, kyriws apo to filokybernhtiko h paratajiako typo. Dinetai, omws, h entypwsh pros thn koinh gnwmh oti exoyme na kanoyme me mia paratajiakh diamaxh, h opoia exei anaxqei se meizon politiko zhthma. Apasxolei thn Kybernhsh ayto kai esas proswpika;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei h apanthsh poy edwsa thn Tetarth 22 Septembrioy.

XIWTHS: Xqes, epishs, eipate oti o Prwqypoyrgos frontizei na kyberna swsta th xwra kai den grafei arqra. Eixate kapoion sto myalo sas, giati h apanthsh sas sth synexeia epikaleito thn prohgoymenh politikh hgesia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H apanthsh exei sxesh pantote me thn erwthsh. H erwthsh xqes htan, pws ``sxoliazei'' o Prwqypoyrgos ayto to qema. Apanthsa oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai gia na kyberna th xwra, oxi gia na grafei sxolia h arqra.

XIWTHS: Giati den sas hrqe na peite oti o Prwqypoyrgos den dinei polles synenteyjeis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto moy hrqe, opws lete ki eseis, na pw!

XIDIROGLOY: Skopeyei h Kybernhsh na labei kapoies sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies gia th beltiwsh toy politikoy klimatos; Na ypenqymisw oti se mia ebdomada qa giortasete ta 30 xronia ths N.D. kai isws qa htan mia kalh eykairia na parei kapoies prwtoboylies gia th beltiwsh enos politikoy klimatos, to opoio meta apo aytes tis apokalyceis, elassonos shmasias, dinei mia entypwsh noshroy klimatos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa synexisoyme na kanoyme th doyleia mas. Qa synexisoyme na efarmozoyme to programma gia to opoio desmeyqhkame. Den to exei amfisbhthsei sobara kaneis mexri twra. Sas exw apariqmhsei osa exoyn ginei se poly mikro xroniko diasthma. Exoyme ena rolo na epitelesoyme kai ena xreos apenanti stoys Ellhnes polites. H Kybernhsh qa synexisei na to epitelei. Kai oi Ellhnes polites jeroyn na krinoyn.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie ypoyrge, exete kati apo th synanthsh toy k. Sioyfa poy brisketai shmera sto ejwteriko gia to qema ths sygkrathshs twn timwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epeidh htan se synedriash, den exw epikoinwnhsei akoma mazi toy. O idios, otan teleiwsei, qa enhmerwsei toys dhmosiografoys stis Bryjelles.

ARMPELAEQ: Na kanw mia diaforetikh erwthsh@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Na dw an qa exw mia diaforetikh apanthsh.

ARMPELAEQ: Entajei. Meta apo th megalh epityxia sthn organwsh twn Olympiakwn kai Paraolympiakwn Agwnwn , o kosmos giortazei toy xronoy, ta 2500 xronia apo th gennhsh toy Periklh. Twra poy milame gia Dhmokratia, qa giortasei kata kapoio tropo h Ellada ayto to shmantiko gegonos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai ena gegonos poy giortazetai kaqe mera, kaqe stigmh se oles tis eleyqeres xwres, se oles tis Dhmokraties toy kosmoy. Pisteyw oti qa ginoyn eidikes ekdhlwseis, opws eixan ginei kai gia ta 2500 xronia Dhmokratias.

SOYGLERHS: Se liges hmeres symplhrwnontai 30 xronia apo thn idrysh ths N.D. Me poio tropo h Kybernhsh qa symmetasxei, qa giortasei h to komma qa exei ayth thn prwtoboylia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Meimarakhs, sthn proxqesinh toy synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo -opws dhlwse kai o idios- ekane eishghsh gia tis ekdhlwseis poy organwnontai apo th Nea Dhmokratia. H Kybernhsh qa symmetasxei stis ekdhlwseis toy kommatos, to opoio, meta apo thn periodo ths diktatorias, edraiwse th Dhmokratia, thn pio isxyrh Dhmokratia ths neoterhs Ellados.

Eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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