Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-09-16

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Aqhna, 16 Septembrioy 2004

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Ayrio, exoyme thn premiera twn Paraolympiakwn Agwnwn. Agwnes poy anadeiknyoyn kai epibrabeyoyn thn anqrwpinh qelhsh kai to aqlhtiko pneyma. H politikh enhmerwsh, kaq` olh th diarkeia twn Paraolympiakwn Agwnwn, opws sas eixa enhmerwsei, qa ginetai kai pali sto Zappeio Megaro stis 13.00.

Shmera pragmatopoihqhke syskech, ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo, sto Megaro Majimoy, me th symmetoxh twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn, Petroy Molybiath, Makedonias-Qrakhs, Nikoy Tsiartsiwnh kai twn yfypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn, Giannh Balynakh kai Eyripidh Stylianidh, me qema th diekdikhsh apo thn polh ths Qessalonikhs ths @EXPO 2008@.

Qa sas anaferw merikes energeies poy exoyn ginei apo pleyras kybernhshs gia to qema ayto. Gia perissoteres leptomereies, parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai sto ypoyrgeio Makedonias-Qrakhs.

O Prwqypoyrgos exei steilei apo kairo proswpikh epistolh stoys omologoys toy twn 91 xwrwn, oi opoies metexoyn sthn apofash gia to poy qa diejaxqei h EXPO 2008. to synolo twn xwrwn, mazi me thn Ellada, einai 92. Exei qesei to qema, se oles toy tis epafes, eite dimereis, eite polymereis. Epishs, to eqese kai sth Diabalkanikh Syndiaskech sto Seragebo, ws diaperifereiako aithma ths N.A. Eyrwphs.

H diadikasia jekinhse to Febroyario toy 2004 apo thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh. Emeis synexisame tis prospaqeies. Einai ena aithma poy afora th xwra synolika. O Prwqypoyrgos malista eixe dextei th dieqnh epitroph ekqesewn, amesws meta thn analhch twn kaqhkontwn toy.

H kybernhsh synexizei tis prospaqeies ths se syntonismo kai me ta alla kommata. Hdh, exoyn enhmerwqei oi boyleytes olwn twn kommatwn kai exei parei kaqenas apo mia epistolh kai enhmerwtiko yliko gia to qema. Akomh exoyn enhmerwqei kai oi ellhnikhs katagwghs boyleytes poy eklegontai se ola ta koinoboylia toy kosmoy. Thn EXPO 2008 th diekdikoyn, opws einai gnwsto, h Saragosa gia thn Ispania kai h Tergesth gia thn Italia, dyo poly isxyres ypochfiothtes.

O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio stis 10 to prwi, qa synanthqei me ton Proedro ths Elbetikhs Synomospondias kai ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn k. Zozef Ntais.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

BLAXOS: Mesa stis ereynes poy qa kanei h kybernhsh gia ta aitia ths ptwshs toy elikopteroy, einai kai to endexomeno sampotaz me dedomenh thn proistoria toy Makaristoy Patriarxh Petroy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi prwtes endeijeis, mexri stigmhs, miloyn gia texnikh blabh. H epitroph synexizei thn ereyna ths kai otan thn oloklhrwsei, qa dwsei sth dhmosiothta to porisma.

BLAXOS: H ekqesh, thn opoia diabasame xqes sto BHMA, toy k. Kasmirogloy pros ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, qewreite oti einai ajiopisth;

ROYSOPOYLOS: An h erwthsh afora sto ean prokeitai peri ths idias ekqesews poy exei ypobalei ston ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, h apanthsh einai nai.

BLAXOS: Eseis, omws, exete pei oti sthn ekqesh ayth, o k. Kasmirogloy den anaferei kaqoloy gia thlefwnikh epikoinwnia me kybernhtika stelexh. O idios, omws, o k. Kasmirogloy se synenteyjeis exei pei oti epikoinwnhse me kybernhtika stelexh. Amfisbhteitai h wra, den exei kamia shmasia. Wstoso, otan kanei mia ekqesh kai den anaferetai stis thlefwnikes epafes poy eixe me kybernhtika stelexh, poso ajiopisth mporei na einai ayth h ekqesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto mporei na to krinei o kaqenas. Egw menw sthn ekqesh poy exei ypobalei o k. Kasmirogloy kai stis dhlwseis poy exei kanei kai oi opoies den dhmioyrgoyn kapoio problhma sxetika me thn enhmerwsh.

BLAXOS: Epeidh, opws katalabainete, yparxei poly endiaferon ypochfiwn, yparxei qema anasxhmatismoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kathgorhmatika, oxi.

BLAXOS: Blepoyme ton k. Meimarakh na phgainei apo kanali se kanali gia na yperaspizetai thn kybernhsh. Ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, pws qa baqmologoysate thn paroysia toy k. Meimarakh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Meimarakhs, opws kai kaqe stelexos ths Neas Dhmokratias alla kai ths kybernhshs, exei shkwsei ena baros @edw kai poly kairo, apo thn proeklogikh periodo alla kai twra poy h Nea Dhmokratia einai kybernhsh- sthn ypobohqhsh ths dhmosiopoihshs twn qesewn ths Neas Dhmokratias se kaqe tomea. Kaqe stelexos ths Neas Dhmokratias einai etoimopolemo, wste na mporesei na yposthrijei to programma mas, to opoio klhqhkame ws kybernhsh na kanoyme prajh.

BLAXOS: Baqmologia den bazete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai aytos o rolos moy.

SPYRAKH: Yparxei shmera ena dhmosieyma sthn efhmerida ``AYRIANH'' se sxesh me thn kalych toy Aigaioy kai th dynatothta poy exei h Toyrkia na gnwrizei to stigma toy elikopteroy kai oti eixe eidopoihqei egkairws to NATO. Exete kapoia plhroforhsh ep@ aytoy; Synebh etsi; Pws akribws synebh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kapoia plhroforia oti eidopoihqhke egkairws to NATO. Ayto poy mporw na sas pw, exontas enhmerwqei apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynhs, einai oti to stigma enos aeroskafoys mporei na fainetai se polla rantar. Se kamia periptwsh, omws, den mporei kaneis na eikasei, ean to stigma ayto ejafanizetai kapoia stigmh, oti egine dystyxhma h prosgeiwqhke to aeroplano.

NASOPOYLOS: Symfwna me toys epishmoys xronoys poy exoyn doqei sth dhmosiothta, prokyptei oti h hgesia ths Politikhs Aeroporias, apo tis 13:15 eixe enhmerwqei gia thn ptwsh toy Sinoyk kai malista eixe teqei h yphresia se katastash synagermoy, ekeinh thn wra. Qa hqela na moy peite, an gnwrizete, pote enhmerwqhke o armodios ypoyrgos kai epopteywn ths YPA k. Liaphs. Sthn periptwsh poy den enhmerwqhke egkairws, yparxei apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs qema eyqynwn ths hgesias ths YPA;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei prin dyo hmeres sto qema ths YPA. Den protiqemai na pw tipota perissotero gia xronologio. To porisma ths ereynas qa mas dwsei apanthseis se ola ayta ta erwthmata.

PEPONHS: Epeidh, me bash ta eggrafa poy dierreysan apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs @Amynas, sxhmatizei kaneis thn eikona oti to moiraio elikoptero htan problhmatiko, sas erwtw: Prwton, yparxoyn kai alla eggrafa poy aforoyn to moiraio elikoptero kai qa bgoyn h den qa bgoyn sth dhmosiothta; Deyteron, h kybernhsh protiqetai, sxediazei h exei apofasisei na zhthsei th syndromh ths kataskeyastrias etairias h toy amerikanikoy stratoy gia thn anelkysh twn tmhmatwn toy elikopteroy gia na melethqoyn kalytera kai na ejaxqoyn pio asfalh symperasmata gia ta aitia toy dystyxhmatos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Jekinw apo th deyterh erwthsh, epanalambanontas kati poy sas eipa kai xqes sth syzhthsh poy eixame, oti h anelkysh apo tetoia baqh einai apo dyskolh ews adynath. Den eimai se qesh na sas dwsw safh apanthsh gia to ti qa ginei twra. Ejetazontai ola ta endexomena.

Oson afora thn prwth erwthsh sas, sas enhmerwnw oti hdh exoyn systaqei epitropes ereynhs, gia tis opoies sas exw hdh enhmerwsei. H mia ereyna afora sta aitia kai h allh stis kaqysterhseis. Epishs, na prosqesw oti plhroforoymai pws o stratiwtikos eisaggeleas Qessalonikhs kanei kai aytos mia ereyna. Ola ta stoixeia qa sygkentrwqoyn kai qa anakoinwqoyn sto xrono opoy qa einai etoimoi oi armodioi poy exoyn epilhfqei aytwn twn ereynwn.

TSIODRAS: Milhsate gia prwtes endeijeis, oi opoies parapempoyn se texnikh blabh. Apo poy prokyptei aytes oi endeijeis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Aytes einai plhrofories tis opoies exw apo to YPEQA kai malista einai mia apanthsh poy thn exw dwsei edw kai meres.

TSIODRAS: Yparxei porisma to opoio epestrafh apo ton k. Sphliwtopoylo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den symbainei kati tetoio.

SPYRAKH: Syggnwmh, den yparxei porisma poy emfanizetai shmera stis efhmerides, ayto poy emfanisthke kai xqes; Kai malista xqes emfanisthke@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelw na dieykrinisw oti porisma gia tis ereynes stis opoies anaferqhka den yparxei.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Pera apo tis ereynes, milaw kai gia porisma twn yphresiwn, to opoio phge ston k. Sphliwtopoylo kai epestrafh ston Arxhgo GEEQA@.. (den akoygetai)

ROYSOPOYLOS: @Alloy eidoys porismata den gnwrizw na yparxoyn.

PANAGOPOYLOS: Yparxei porisma toy AGEEQA poy phge xqes ston ypoyrgo Amynas, gia to poioi htan entetalmenoi na parakoloyqoyn ta rantar kai kaqysterhsan na enhmerwsoyn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw: Yparxoyn ereynes se ejelijh. Otan oloklhrwqoyn oi ereynes, qa anakoinwqoyn ta porismata. Shmera, isws akoysate ton YPEQA sth Boylh na apanta oti h prwth ereyna, pisteyei pws qa exei oloklhrwqei sto telos ths epomenhs ebdomados. Ayth einai h apanthsh. Peraiterw porismata, eggrafa kai loipa den gnwrizw na sas pw. O,ti yparxei mexri stigmhs ws stoixeio, perilambanetai sto fakelo ths ypoqeshs.

PANAGOPOYLOS: O AGEEQA, kyrie Ekproswpe, dhlwse ston Tyrnabo shmera oti exei paradwsei porisma ston ypoyrgo Amynas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw, hdh, apanthsei. Den exw na prosqesw tipota perissotero.

SPYRAKH: Den einai, dhladh, se gnwsh toy Grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy gi ayto to porisma poy mila o Arxhgos toy GEA;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai se gnwsh toy oti diejagontai ereynes. Se kamia periptwsh, den noeitai, politikos proistamenos, akoma kai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos, na parembainei sth diadikasia twn ereynwn. Kata synepeia, kai to Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy, opws kai h koinh gnwmh, qa enhmerwqoyn otan oloklhrwqoyn oi ereynes.

POYLIDOY: Den yparxei tetoio porisma h den gnwrizete@.(den akoygetai)

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas anefera tis dyo ereynes poy diejagontai. Peraiterw ereyna einai ayth poy ginetai apo ton Eisaggelea Qessalonikhs. Oson afora ta porismata, den exw na sas dwsw apanthsh, efoson gnwrizoyme oti den exoyn oloklhrwqei akomh oi ereynes.

BLAXOS: Pws tote lete oti to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynhs sas enhmerwse oti h ptwsh ofeiletai se texnikh blabh, afoy den exoyme porisma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eipa akribws ayto. Parakalw na qymaste ti akribws exw pei. Koitajte thn pro hmerwn, alla kai th shmerinh politikh enhmerwsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Ektos apo ola ayta ta eggrafa, ta opoia diarreoyn kai kaneis den jerei pws kai poso ajiopista einai, twra, diarreoyn plhrofories oti qa akoloyqhsoyn polles allages kai karatomhseis sto strateyma, milaei gia 40 ton ariqmo. Ti telika isxyei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se kamia periptwsh den protiqemai na kanw opoiadhpote dhlwsh-apanthsh-topoqethsh, sth bash diarrown kai ypoqesewn.

GKOYTZANHS: Einai diarroes apo to ypoyrgeio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa.

BITALHS: H diereynhsh twn aitiwn ths ptwshs toy Sinoyk, opws exete pei edw kai meres, ginetai apo epitroph ths Aeroporias, h opoia qa steilei to porisma gia to ti akribws egine. Mono mia epitroph, ayth ths Aeroporias qa diereynhsei ta aitia h qa yparjei kai deyterh anejarthth, me bash kapoioys kanonismoys ths E.E., h opoia qa ereynhsei kai ayth apo thn pleyra ths kai qa kataqesei kai kapoio allo porisma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den mporw na gnwrizw ean kati tetoio kriqei oti einai aparaithto. Sas lew ti exei ginei ews twra.

MPALHS: Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia th xqesinh omilia toy prwhn arxhgoy GEA.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den protiqetai h kybernhsh na sxoliasei thn omilia toy prwhn arxhgoy GEA.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws efqase o xronos h kybernhsh na kataqesei sth Boylh to nomo gia ton basiko metoxo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws eipe o Prwqypoyrgos, sth synenteyjh toy sth DEQ thn Kyriakh, edw kai arketo kairo, yparxei proergasia metajy stelexwn toy ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs kai Epikrateias, wste se syntomo xrono na katateqei to nomosxedio sto opoio anaferqhkate, me bash tis desmeyseis ths kybernhshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa exei katateqei mexri telos toy xronoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai.

KAKALHS: Giati h kybernhsh epixeirei me emmesoys tropoys na anoijei to qema toy asfalistikoy kai den leei eyqews tis qeseis ths.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh den epixeirei na kanei kati tetoio kai malista me emmeso tropo, opws eipate. Exei topoqethqei safws gia to asfalistiko. Den yparxei tetoio qema.

KAKALHS: Anaferomai sth dhlwsh poy ekane o ypoyrgos Oikonomias k. Alogoskoyfhs, proxqes sto radiofwniko staqmo ``9,84'', oti h kybernhsh qa jekinhsei dhmosio dialogo me oloys toys koinwnikoys etairoys gia thn antimetwpish toy asfalistikoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs -ean isxyei h dhlwsh opws moy thn diabasate- den leei poyqena oti h kybernhsh fernei ena asfalistiko nomosxedio.

GKOYTZANHS: Qa synexisei, dhladh, h kybernhsh na efarmozei to nomo Reppa, ws exei, se oles toy tis diatajeis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi basikes diatajeis toy asfalistikoy nomosxedioy einai ekeines poy katakriqhkan thn periodo 1990-1993. Einai o nomos gia ton opoion oi Bretanoi analogistes -toys opoioys eixe kalesei h prohgoymenh kybernhsh toy PASOK- tonisan sthn ekqesh toys, oti ean den eixe ginei, qa eixe katarreysei to asfalistiko systhma. Aytos poy antimetwpise to asfalistiko sto parelqon me tropo wste na epibiwsei gia para polla xronia einai h kybernhsh ths N.D. Ta osa efere tote o k. Reppas, meta thn apopomph toy k. Giannitsh kai afoy prohghqhkan protaseis antikroyomenes metajy toys, den edwsan oysia sto asfalistiko. To asfalistiko exei diarkeia pollwn etwn, xarin ths kybernhshs ths N.D. Den tiqetai shmera qema syzhthshs gia to asfalistiko systhma.

SIDERHS: Tote, ean isxyoyn oi basikes diatajeis toy 1990-93, giati apoxwrhsate apo th Boylh otan chfizotan kai to kataggeilate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Profanws den egine katanohto. Epanalambanw oti oi Bretanoi analogistes, oi opoioi eklhqhsan apo ton tote ypoyrgo Ergasias k. Giannitsh, dhlwsan sthn ekqesh toys, oti xarin toy asfalistikoy poy eixe chfisei h N.D. thn periodo 1990-93, epibiwse to asfalistiko systhma. Ayto einai mia pragmatikothta.

TSIODRAS: Eipate, ean katalaba kala, oti den prokeitai na ferete nomosxedio, omws, qa anoijete dialogo me toys koinwnikoys etairoys gia to asfalistiko.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa hdh. H kybernhsh den protiqetai na ferei asfalistiko nomosxedio.

TSIODRAS: Dialogo, omws, me toys koinwnikoys etairoys qa anoijete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Dialogos qa ginei gia para polla qemata. Eimaste kybernhsh poy qelei na kanei dialogo me toys koinwnikoys etairoys kai to exei kanei, hdh, prajh.

SIDERHS: Gia na pernaei h wra qa kanete to dialogo; Ean den yphrxe logos kainoyrgioy nomosxedioy h na kanete anakatatajeis sto asfalistiko pros ti o dialogos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mia kybernhsh poy sebetai ton eayto ths, th doyleia kai th xwra poy yphretei, prepei na einai se qesh na problecei kai na syzhthsei ta asfalistika systhmata, opws kai ola ta systhmata exoyn kapoia stigmh ena telos. Ayto, loipon, to telos kai symfwna me toys Bretanoys analogistes erxetai xronika poly argotera apo to 2004 xarin twn energeiwn poy exei kanei h Nea Dhmokratia prin apo 12-13 xronia. Ayta ws genikh arxh. Sygkekrimena twra. Sas eipa oti ayth h kybernhsh skopeyei na kanei dialogo me toys koinwnikoys etairoys gia ola ta qemata kai ayto, hdh, to kanoyme prajh. Eidika gia to asfalistiko poy me rwtate kai gia na aposafhnistei plhrws h ypoqesh, h kybernhsh den protiqetai na anoijei ayto to qema. Ara, loipon, oyte syzhthsh, oyte fysika, poly perissotero, kapoio nomosxedio.

BLAXOS: O k. Panos Panagiwtopoylos exei diamartyrhqei ston Prwqypoyrgo gia tis apofaseis Dioikhtwn, opws ths Eqnikhs kai toy OTE, gia thn eqeloysia ejodo twn ypallhlwn poy epibarynei ta asfalistika tameia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw kati tetoio.

POYLIDOY: Sthn Kypro o Proedros k. Papadopoylos dhlwse se synenteyjh toy oti sth diarkeia ths Loykernhs, alla kai argotera prin apo to dhmochfisma eixe epafes me Toyrkokyprioys politikoys, prokeimenoy na anablhqei to dhmochfisma. Ep` aytoy den htan se gnwsh to Eqniko Symboylio kai exei prokycei qema. Hqela na rwthsw ean htan se gnwsh h ellhnikh kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia tis synanthseis sto Mpyrgkenstok, sthn Elbetia, h ellhnikh kybernhsh htan se gnwsh, opws pisteyw kai ta ypoloipa melh toy Eqnikoy Symboylioy. Gia alles synanthseis den exei prokycei kati gia to opoio qa eprepe na enhmerwqoyn.

POYLIDOY: Hsastan kai se gnwsh toy periexomenoy, oti dhladh diekdikeito h anabolh toy dhmochfismatos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizame tis kinhseis, opws hdh sas eipa.

XIWTHS: Yparxei ena dhmosieyma poy ballei enantion toy G.G. Anaptyjhs gia perittes polyteleies, alla kai dikastikes peripeteies. O sygkekrimenos G.G. tygxanei akoma ths empistosynhs ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa to ereynhsw kai qa sas apanthsw.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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