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Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-09-15Greek Government Press Briefings in ASCII Greek Directory - Previous Article - Next ArticleFrom: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIASAqhna, 15 Septembrioy 2004H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOYTYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO Xairete. Sthn erwthsh poy dexqhka xqes, sto qema toy programmatos ths Koinwnias ths Plhroforias kai afora sthn aporrofhtikothta to teleytaio ejamhno poy einai kybernhsh h Nea Dhmokratia, sas exw dwsei hdh ena analytiko shmeiwma, sas apantw ta ejhs: ``Sto xqesino shmeiwma poy sas dieneima, an mporoyse kaneis na kanei toys ypologismoys qa ebgaze ta symperasmata toy. Symfwna, loipon, me osa kategrace to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs to programma otan parelhfqh apo thn kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias eixe ypografes symbasewn ths tajews toy enos ekatommyrioy pentakosiwn triantatriwn xiliadwn eyrw kai katakyrwsh diagwnismwn ths tajews twn 55 ekatommyriwn eyrw. Synolika, dhladh, 56.5 ekatommyria eyrw. Sto ejamhno poy parhlqe exoyn ypografei symbaseis ths tajews twn 55 ekatommyriwn eyrw kai exoyn katakyrwqei diagwnismoi ths tajews twn 50 ekatommyriwn eyrw. Synolika, dhladh, 110 ekatommyria eyrw se eji mhnes.'' POYLIDOY: Mia dieykrinish ep` aytoy. Milame gia to programma h Koinwnia ths Plhroforias h milame gia to kommati poy diaxeiristhke h etaireia h Koinwnia ths Plhroforias A.E.; Einai dyo diaforetika pragmata. ROYSOPOYLOS: Milame gia to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas. Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas. TSIODRAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, se sxesh me thn enhmerwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia to moiraio dystyxhma. Ayta ta opoia bgainoyn se sxesh me toys ypoyrgoys, dhladh oti exoyn enhmerwqei 13.45@, o k. Skandalakhs, o k. Kaklamanhs, o k. Kefalogiannhs, bgainei oti kai o Prwqypoyrgos mallon htan enhmeros nwritera. Dhladh, o k. Stamaths symfwna me ta stoixeia poy prokyptoyn mphke sthn aiqoysa kai ton enhmerwse. Peite mas ti wra enhmerwqhke o k. Karamanlhs, ti wra enhmerwqhkate eseis kai giati oi ypoyrgoi oi opoioi hjeran mish wra nwritera apo ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas den ton enhmerwsan; ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw hdh apanthsei sta erwthmata sas. To mono sto opoio qa meinw einai sto qema toy k. Stamath. O idios o k. Stamaths ekane dhlwseis, shmera to prwi, diaceydontas th fhmologia h opoia kategrafh kai se merida toy Typoy. Qelw na pw oti prokeitai gia anypostata kai fantasioplhkta senaria. SPYRAKH: Qa sas parakaloysa na mas peite an einai dynaton thn akribh wra kata thn opoia enhmerwqhke o Prwqypoyrgos. Exei dhmioyrghqei mia asafhs entypwsh kai einai megalh anagkh na plhroforhqei o kosmos. ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei h xqesinh dhlwsh moy. PANAGOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes o prwhn dioikhths toy Agioy Oroys, eipe milwntas ston ``ANT1'' oti fqanontas sth Dafnh mazi me ajiwmatiko toy Limenikoy Swmatos, gyrw sth 1 h wra, gnwrizan, emaqan, plhroforhqhkan oti agnoeitai to elikoptero. To ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias, afoy htan ajiwmatikos toy Limenikoy Swmatos ekei, pote enhmerwqhke kai giati den kinhtopoihqhke amesws; ROYSOPOYLOS: Parapempw stis dhlwseis toy nyn dioikhth toy Agioy Oroys, o opoios exei kai thn eyqynh. SIDERHS: Epeidh o k. Stamaths mphke mesa sthn aiqoysa poy synedriaze o Prwqypoyrgos, mporeite na mas peite ti ton enhmerwse; Giati mphke; ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa sas pw tipota perissotero gia to qema ayto. O k. Stamaths, to prwi, ekane safeis dhlwseis. GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, meta thn ejelijh ths ypoqeshs yparxoyn mhpws deyteres skeceis na ginei dekth h paraithsh toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy; ROYSOPOYLOS: Oyte deyteres, oyte trites. BLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, egw qa labw ypoch moy ta osa eipe o k. Kasmirogloy, o opoios htan ypeyqynos gia thn ypodoxh toy elikopteroy. Akoysame, loipon, ton k. Kasmirogloy na leei oti gyrw stis 13.55@enhmerwse ton proistameno ypoyrgo toy. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw an yparxei qema gia ton k. Kasmirogloy, an o k. Kasmirogloy den ektelese kala ta kaqhkonta toy kai an h kybernhsh einai diateqeimenh na dwsei sth dhmosiothta ton pinaka me ta thlefwnhmata poy ekane o k. Kasmirogloy, o k. Skandalakhs kai oi alloi. ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Kasmirogloy exei ypobalei ekqesh sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn gia thn opoia sas exw enhmerwsei. Ean h ekqesh apoxarakthristei apo ``Akrws Aporrhth'', opws o idios exei xarakthrisei, qa doqei sth dhmosiothta. Epanalambanw, omws, oti sthn ekqesh toy den anaferei opoiodhpote xronologio. BLAXOS: Egw qelw na epimeinw se ayto. Egw den jerw ti exei pei sthn ekqesh toy o k. Kasmirogloy. Egw akoysa ton k. Kasmirogloy na leei sthn thleorash toy Alpha oti gyrw stis 2 para enhmerwse thn kybernhsh. Apo tis 11 h wra caxnoyn na broyn ena elikoptero me ton Patriarxh kai o armodios ypallhlos toy Dhmosioy, o opoios qewrei ton eayton toy ws ekproswpo kai ths kybernhshs enhmerwnei ton proistameno ypoyrgo toy stis 13.55@; Kai aytos o ypallhlos menei akomh sth qesh toy; ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti h eyqynh, kat` arxas, barynei to Geniko Epiteleio Aeroporias, gi` ayto kai zhthqhke h paraithsh toy Arxhgoy ths Aeroporias. H ereyna gia to ti akribws synebh kai pote enhmerwqhkan oi yphresies synexizetai. Apanthseis qa doqoyn me to porisma ths. Ean prokycoyn eyqynes gia opoiondhpote allon, na eiste bebaios oti qa apodoqoyn. BLAXOS: Symfwna me to reportaz to opoio exw kanei to EKAB enhmerwqhke stis 13.50@oti egine kapoio atyxhma me polloys nekroys. To EKAB prospaqhse na epikoinwnhsei me ton k. Kaklamanh, o opoios htan se syskech kai eixe kleisto to thlefwno toy. To EKAB epikoinwnhse me to dieyqynth toy grafeioy toy k. Kaklamanh, zhtwntas na paei mesa na enhmerwsei ton k. ypoyrgo gia na dwsei thn entolh na kinhqei megalos stolos asqenoforwn. Symfwna me aytopth martyra poy moy metefere th skhnh o dieyqynths toy grafeioy toy k. Kaklamanh, mpainontas mesa kai ftanontas ston k. Kaklamanh diapistwse oti ekeinh th stigmh o k. Prokophs Paylopoylos elege ston k. Kaklamanh, ``Nikhta koitaje na deis ti qa ginei me ta asqenofora, yparxei ena tetoio peristatiko''. Ara, dhladh, o k. Kaklamanhs gnwrize apo ton k. Prokoph Paylopoylo poy htan dipla ston Prwqypoyrgo gia to peristatiko. Mhpws mporeite na mas peite pote egine ayto kai pws enhmerwqhke o k. Prokophs Paylopoylos poy htan dipla ston Prwqypoyrgo; ROYSOPOYLOS: Polla apo osa perigracate den einai mono dikes sas plhrofories. Einai ta osa eipe xqes dhmosiws o idios o ypoyrgos Ygeias. Kata synepeia, den exw kati na symplhrwsw. Jexasate, omws, na symplhrwsete eseis oti o ypoyrgos Ygeias, sto kleisimo ayths ths perigrafhs, anefere pws molis eixe enhmerwqei o Prwqypoyrgos apo ton k. Sphlio Sphliwtopoylo. GKOYTZANHS: Kat` arxas, h ekqesh toy k. Kasmirogloy dhmosieyetai shmera ston Typo, den jerw pws dhmosieyetai afoy einai ``Akrws Aporrhth'' kai giati den mas thn dinete, estw afoy dhmosieyqhke. Kai deyteron, to qema twn politikwn eyqynwn einai kleisto h oi ereynes poy ginontai endexomenws na deijoyn kai politikes eyqynes; ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei kai sta dyo erwthmata. GKOYTZANHS: Exoyme kainoyrgia stoixeia kaqe hmera, gi` ayto thn epanalambanw. ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei h idia apanthsh. SIDERHS: Xqes mas eipate gia to prwqypoyrgiko aeroskafos oti synexizetai h ereyna. Par` ola ayta to aeroskafos ayto ``petaei''. Pws einai dynato na synexizetai h ereyna, afoy einai epikindyno h kai endexomenws na einai epikindyno kai na ``petaei'' kai malista xqes o k. Sioyfas dhlwse oti ``petaei'' me ayto kai noiwqei apolyta asfalhs. ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa pws katopin ths ereynas poy egine apokatastaqhke to problhma ths anisorropias poy edhmioyrgeito me thn katanomh baroys sto aeroskafos. Xqes edoqh to porisma to opoio, olws tyxaiws, eixe kanei o nyn Arxhgos GEA. PANAGOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Sphliwtopoylos ejakoloyqei na apolambanei ths empistosynhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy, meta ta osa exei pei dhmosiws tis teleytaies hmeres; ROYSOPOYLOS: Mporeite na diatypwsete me polloys tropoys thn erwthsh. Exei diatypwqei hdh nwritera kai exei apanthqei. POYLIDOY: Epeidh, prin, parapemcate se palaioteres dhlwseis sas, an qymamai kala, ayto poy eixate pei einai oti oi ereynes qa katalhjoyn se kapoia porismata, ta opoia porismata endexomenws apodidoyn eyqynes se proswpa. Milame se yphresiako epipedo; ROYSOPOYLOS: Se yphresiako epipedo. POYLIDOY: To yphresiako epipedo den exei epafh me to politiko epipedo, einai dyo jexwristoi mhxanismoi; ROYSOPOYLOS: To politiko proswpiko se mia Dhmokratia dioikei to yphresiako. POYLIDOY: Ara, yparxei mia diasyndesh. To politiko epipedo diorizei to yphresiako epipedo, an den kanw laqos. ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, akribws, den symbainei etsi. Ston ellhniko strato, thn Polemikh Aeroporia kai to Dhmosio yparxoyn diadikasies epi seiran etwn, gia to pws kapoios katalambanei mia qesh, pws eisagetai sth Sxolh Eyelpidwn kai pws sth synexeia pairnei qeseis kai baqmoys. POYLIDOY: Kai oi apopompes einai mesa s@ ayto, den einai; ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws, analoga me thn eyqynh toy kaqenos. POYLIDOY: Opws apodeiknyetai, tesseris toylaxiston ypoyrgoi eixan plhroforhqei gia to symban, as poyme ena tetarto prin apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, poy einai to elaxisto diasthma. Den nomizete oti yparxei ena qema syntonismoy ths kybernhshs apo to gegonos oti den hrqan se epafh me esas, prin proboyn se dhlwseis, toylaxiston ws Ekproswpo ths Kybernhshs na sas enhmerwsoyn gia ena sobaro problhma, to opoio eixe symbei; ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws qa qymaste, osoi hsastan sth Qessalonikh, amesws molis to plhroforhqhka, enhmerwsa toys dhmosiografoys sth syzhthsh @ synanthsh poy eixame ekeinh thn wra ston 9o orofo toy ``Makedonia Pallas''. Htan h prwth enhmerwsh poy egine anepishmws apo ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo. H deyterh enhmerwsh egine epishmws stis 18:15@. Ara, yphrje enhmerwsh apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs pros toys dhmosiografoys, amesws molis egine gnwsto to gegonos. POYLIDOY: Den rwthsa gia th sxesh toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy me toys dhmosiografoys. Rwthsa gia th sxesh twn ypoyrgwn me ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo. ROYSOPOYLOS: Poioi ypoyrgoi me enhmerwsan kai pote, qa moy epitrecete na mhn to anaferw. DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Den einai kratiko mystiko@ ROYSOPOYLOS: Shmasia exei o ellhnikos laos na plhroforhqei thn alhqeia. Kai o ellhnikos laos plhroforhqhke to gegonos apo thn prwth stigmh, otan to plhroforhqhke kai h politikh hgesia. Sas qymizw de, oti olh h diadikasia thn opoia akoloyqoyme twra, h syzhthsh poy kanoyme twra, jekina apo thn ypoqesh ths elleichs, ths swsths leitoyrgias enos oloklhroy mhxanismoy sthn Polemikh Aeroporia. Kai ekei einai to basiko qema. TSIODRAS: Brisketai se ejelijh h ereyna, ayth th stigmh. Pws, loipon, eseis proejofleite to apotelesma ths ereynas kai menete sto oti yparxoyn eyqynes yphresiakwn paragontwn, xwris na yparxoyn politikes eyqynes; Mhpws qa prepei na perimenete to apotelesma ths ereynas kai na apofanqeite meta, ean yparxoyn politikes eyqynes h oxi; Kai na apodoqoyn oi politikes eyqynes an yparxoyn; ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai dyo diaforetika pragmata ayta poy me rwtate. Exw apanthsei gia tis politikes eyqynes kai den protiqemai na pw tipota perissotero. Gia thn ereyna, epishs, exw apanthsei. Dioti opws gnwrizete, kaqe mhxanismos kai idiaitera oi mhxanismoi twn Swmatwn Asfaleias, twn stratwn ana ton kosmo, leitoyrgoyn me sygkekrimeno tropo, me bash odhgies kai kanonismoys poy einai safeis. SPYRAKH: Kyrie ypoyrge, hqela na sas rwthsw an kata th gnwmh sas apotelei politikh eyqynh h epilogh enos proswpoy sthn koryfh ths pyramidas twn Enoplwn Dynamewn h h paramonh enos proswpoy sthn koryfh ths pyramidas twn Enoplwn Dynamewn. ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eimai edw gia na sas lew th gnwmh moy, alla gia na apantw se erwthseis sxetikes me plhrofories. SPYRAKH: @Htan poly sygkekrimenh h erwthsh, kyrie ypoyrge. Aforoyse thn politikh eyqynh. ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai h apanthsh moy htan poly sygkekrimenh. BLAXOS: Se yphresiako shmeiwma toy ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias, anaferetai oti stis 13:45 enhmerwqhke apo to GES gia to dystyxhma kai amesws enhmerwqhke o Arxhgos toy Limenikoy kai kinhtopoihqhke olos o mhxanismos. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, loipon, me dedomeno oti o Arxhgos toy GES eipe oti enhmerwqhke meta tis 14:15, shmera bebaia anaskeyazei pali, an yparxei qema gia ton Arxhgo GES. Kai ena deytero, apo th stigmh poy enhmerwqhke o Arxhgos toy Limenikoy stis 13:48 kai to prwto limeniko skafos ftanei sta 20 milia apo tis Karyes stis 14:30, dhladh toylaxiston se mish wra, triantapente lepta peripoy kai briskei ta prwta syntrimmia, me posh taxythta etrexe to limeniko skafos; ROYSOPOYLOS: Moiazei me askhsh maqhmatikwn. Den mporw na thn apanthsw, den gnwrizw poia einai ta skafh toy Limenikoy kai me posh taxythta trexoyn. Apeyqynqeite, parakalw, sto Limeniko Swma. Gia ton Arxhgo GES den exw na pw tipota perissotero. Sas qymizw oti ypeblhqh sxetikh erwthsh apo thn Kyriakh kai exw apanthsei. LEONTITSH: O ypoyrgos Ygeias Nikhtas Kaklamanhs, milwntas shmera ston ALPHA RADIO, eipe oti otan exeis th diakybernhsh kai den paei kati kala, akomh kai an ayto ofeiletai se logoys poy klhronomhses, safestata exeis meridio politikwn eyqynwn. Qelw na sas rwthsw, telika, apo ayto to meridio twn politikwn eyqynwn, analogei kai stoys ypoyrgoys poy fainetai oti gnwrizan prin apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, alla den espeysan na ton enhmerwsoyn; ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas parapempw sth safestath dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy thn Kyriakh. NASOPOYLOS: Me bash thn epishmh wra enhmerwshs poy exei dwsei o k. Sphliwtopoylos, h enhmerwsh egine stis 14:18. Amesws meta enhmerwse o idios ton Prwqypoyrgo. Me dedomeno oti h synanthsh me toys ekproswpoys twn paragwgikwn tajewn oloklhrwqhke peripoy stis 15:30 h en pash periptwsei meta tis 15:00, ajiologhqhke apo thn kybernhsh, ekeinh thn wra, to endexomeno na syntomeytei h diadikasia ekeinh, na apoxwrhsei endexomenws o Prwqypoyrgos h kriqhke oti proexei h oloklhrwsh ayths ths synanthshs, me dedomeno ayto to atyxhma; ROYSOPOYLOS: H domh mias kybernhsews einai gnwsth. O Prwqypoyrgos synennohqhke me ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynhs kai toy edwse entolh na metabei sto shmeio, opoy eprepe na jekinhsoyn ola, dhladh, stis Karyes. Apo ekei kai pera leitoyrghse o mhxanismos poy gnwrizete. STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh qa strafei enantion ths etaireias gia to dystyxhma; ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai nwris na apanthsw gia kati tetoio, apo th stigmh poy den exei teleiwsei h ereyna twn aitiwn poy odhghsan sto dystyxhma. STAMATOPOYLOS: Exoyme allh paraggelia gia Sinoyk, ayth thn epoxh; ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw. Apeyqynqeite gia perissoteres plhrofories sto YPEQA. STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh blepoyme oti yparxei poly elattwmatiko yliko poy exei agorastei, qa ginei ereyna kai gia allo h qa perimenoyme na ginei dystyxhma gia na cajoyme na broyme ean yparxei kati sta xartia; ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa kai xqes se antistoixo erwthma. Prosqetete ena kainoyrgio stoixeio. Nai, qa ginoyn ereynes gia para polla, apo ta ylika toy Stratoy. PANAGOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh qewrei oti den yparxei zhthma asynennohsias metajy twn ypoyrgwn, afoy gnwrizan apo poly nwris kai kanenas den epairne ton armodio ypoyrgo sto thlefwno; ROYSOPOYLOS: Xrhsimopoieite thn frash ``apo poly nwris'', enw apodeiknyetai, apo ola osa exoyn dhlwsei oi emplekomenoi ypoyrgoi, oti peripoy thn idia wra enhmerwqhkan oloi. Ara, den isxyei, gia emena toylaxiston, o syllogismos poy kanate. SARANTAKOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, mias kai polys logos ginetai gi aytes tis dyo ereynes poy briskontai se ejelijh, ean exete enhmerwqei apo ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynhs h ean exete sto myalo sas kapoio xronodiagramma oloklhrwshs aytwn twn ereynwn kai thn paroysiash toy porismatos poy qa dialeykanei ayth thn istoria. ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa kai thn prohgoymenh Deytera, oti h ereyna gia to xronologio twn oswn synebhsan kai gia thn elleich enhmerwshs metajy twn epitelwn twn rantar, poy ofeilan na parakoloyqoyn thn poreia toy elikopteroy, qa teleiwsei nwritera. Akribws, dioti se kaqe strato yparxei sygkekrimenos tropos leitoyrgias twn mhxanismwn toy. Oson afora thn ereyna gia ta aitia, den eimai se qesh na gnwrizw poso qa diarkesei. Proqesh mas einai pantws na oloklhrwqei to syntomotero dynato, gia na exoyme ta apotelesmata ths, ara kai tis apanthseis. POYLIDOY: Ti mesolabhse apo to 1999, otan gia thn ptwsh toy Falkon miloysate gia politikes eyqynes, mexri shmera, otan gia thn ptwsh toy Sinoyk lete oti den yparxei qema politikwn eyqynwn; ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw hdh apanthsei, oson afora to qema twn politikwn eyqynwn. POYLIDOY: Sas rwtw gia mia antifash ths syllogistikhs sas tote kai shmera. Mesolabhse, bebaia, oti tote hsastan antipoliteysh kai shmera eiste kybernhsh. Alla, peran toytoy, ti allo mesolabhse; ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw hdh apanthsei. SIDERHS: H kybernhsh einai eyxaristhmenh apo ton tropo antidrashs; Pws baqmologei ton eayto ths; Htan ikanopoihtikh h eikona; ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo ton tropo antidrashs toy mhxanismoy, kaqoloy. Gi` ayto, allwste, zhthse kai thn paraithsh toy Arxhgoy GEA. SIDERHS: H kybernhsh ean einai eyxaristhmenh apo ton eayto ths, rwthsa. ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh otan enhmerwqhke -kai dystyxws enhmerwqhke arga, opws gnwrizete oloi- edrase para poly grhgora gia ta peraiterw. Kai ayto, epishs, to gnwrizete, oloi. Allwste, h syzhthsh -opws diapistwnoyme kai shmera kai xqes- den estiazetai sto apo ekei kai meta. Dioti ws dhmosiografoi qa thn eixate estiasei sto apo ekei kai pera. Thn exete estiasei sto ews ekei, se ayto poy den leitoyrghse swsta. Omws, otan h kybernhsh enhmerwqhke kai phre thn katastash sta xeria ths, tote ola leitoyrghsan me ton kalytero dynato tropo. SIDERHS: Opote eiste ikanopoihmenos. ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa. DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Na epanelqw sto prohgoymeno, dioti afora oysiastika thn antidrash ths kybernhshs: O ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynhs mpainei se syskech me toys ekproswpoys twn paragwgikwn tajewn kai enhmerwnei ton Prwqypoyrgo gia to symban. O Prwqypoyrgos toy dinei entolh na metabei sto Agion Oros. Ginetai mia mini syskech anamesa stoys dyo, mesa sth synanthsh me tis paragwgikes tajeis kai lete oti h domh einai gnwsth kai akoloyqhsan osa akoloyqhsan. Den ekrine o Prwqypoyrgos, h kybernhsh h en pash periptwsei osa kybernhtika stelexh htan mazi toy ekeinh thn wra, oti eprepe na diaforopoihqei endexomenws to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy; ROYSOPOYLOS: Diaforopoihqhke to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy to brady, gia na timhsoyme th mnhmh twn qymatwn. LEONTITSH: Einai eyxaristhmenh h kybernhsh apo ton tropo poy o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynhs xeiristhke thn proforikh symfwnia, opws eipate ki eseis xqes, gia th meiwsh twn ejoplismwn Elladas-Toyrkias; Giati, otan rwthqhke eipe oti egw proswpika den exw ypogracei kamia symfwnia. Bebaia, den anaferqhke stis synomilies poy eixe me ton Toyrko ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ton Ioynio, sthn Kwnstantinoypolh kai malista parepemce me kathgorhmatiko tropo sto prwqypoyrgiko Grafeio. ROYSOPOYLOS: Edwsa xqes analytikh apanthsh sto idio erwthma kai sas parapempw se aythn. LEONTITSH: Rwtw, ean einai eyxaristhmenh h kybernhsh gia ton tropo poy xeiristhke to qema o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynhs. ROYSOPOYLOS: Sth xqesinh enhmerwsh moy, apantw kai sto erwthma sas. DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Xqes, anaferate thn prwth synennohsh gia to qema ths amoibaias perikophs twn ejoplismwn, poy egine otan o k. Karamanlhs, ws arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs eixe episkefqei th geitonikh xwra kai eixe synanthqei me ton k. Erntogan, o opoios htan kai o epikefalhs toy kybernhtikoy kommatos. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean o k. Karamanlhs ws arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, ama th epistrofh toy, enhmerwse ton tote Prwqypoyrgo kai ton tote ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn gia thn prwth syzhthsh kai th symfwnia poy eixe kanei me ton k. Erntogan. ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Karamanlhs me ton k. Erntogan dhlwsan proqeseis gia to qema poy gnwrizete. En synexeia, enhmerwqhkan oi dhmosiografoi, thn idia kiolas hmera, apo emena proswpika, sthn Agkyra. O k. Karamanlhs anefere ayto to qema se omilia toy, sth Boylh. Ean me rwtate, ean eixe kat` idian synanthsh me ton tote ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn gi ayto to qema, h apanthsh einai oxi. 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