Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-08-19

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Aqhna, 19 Aygoystoy 2004

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

H ellhnikh kybernhsh sygxairei toys prwtoys olympionikes kai idiaiterws tis prwtes gynaikes olympionikes poy agwnisthkan sto arxaio stadio ths Olympias meta apo 1611 xronia.

Eyxaristoyme oloys osoi symmeteixan @aqlhtes kai qeates- gia to sebasmo poy epedeijan ston iero ayto xwro. Ena xwro ton opoio klhronomhsame kai diathrhsame anepafo ana toys aiwnes.

Xqes, h yfhlios afoygkrasthke thn hxw toy ayqentikoy. Enqoysiasmos poy antikatoptrizetai sta egkwmia twn dieqnwn MME poy ejantloyn toys yperqetikoys.

H Arxaia Olympia mas efere pio konta me tis qemeliwdeis ajies toy politismoy mas. H monadikothta ths Olympiadas ths Aqhnas epibebaiwqhke, xqes, me thn epistrofh ths pagkosmias aqlhtikhs oikogeneias ston topo poy gennhqhke to Olympiako Idewdes.

Me thn eykairia ayth, qa hqela na ypenqymisw thn protash poy eixe kanei o Kwstas Karamanlhs, ws Arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs, kai thn opoia h kybernhsh protiqetai na ylopoihsei. Htan, ligo prin apo tis ekloges, otan o Kwstas Karamanlhs apo thn Olympia eixe dhlwsei oti h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias qa prowqhsei thn idea diorganwshs Agwnwn aytokinhtoy poy xrhsimopoioyn enallaktikes morfes energeias kai ta opoia qa jekinoyn apo thn Olympia, kaqe tessera xronia, metaferontas parallhla me toys aqlhtes thn Olympiakh Floga sthn polh poy qa diejagontai oi Olympiakoi Agwnes. Se aytoys toys Agwnes qa symmetexoyn kyriws Panepisthmia apo olo ton kosmo.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia tis ekdhlwseis poy pragmatopoioyntai sto Zappeio: Shmera, stis 8 to brady, sto Peristylio mporeite na parakoloyqhsete ekdhlwsh thn opoia diorganwnei h Omospondia Pontiakwn Swmateiwn Notioy Ellados.

Oson afora to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

@O Kwstas Karamanlhs, stis 7.30 to apogeyma, qa parakoloyqhsei, sto stadio Eirhnhs kai Filias, ton agwna bolei Argentinhs-Ellados.

@Ayrio, stis 11 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton Amerikano Geroysiasth Pwl Sarmpanis.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

TSIODRAS: Se sxesh me th xqesinh apofash ths DOE ginetai poly megalh syzhthsh se aqlhtikoys, alla kai se politikoys kykloys gia apopeira ``koykoylwmatos'' ths olhs istorias. Qa hqela to sxolio ths Kybernhshs gia thn ypoqesh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw thn apofash ths DOE. H ypoqesh, opws gnwrizete, parapempetai. Den exoyme akomh telikh apofash gia to ti akribws exei symbei.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, poly kales oi prwtoboylies poy anaferate. Wstoso, yparxei h aisqhsh oti o ellhnikos Aqlhtismos exei anatolikogermanikhs yfhs kratikodiaito proswpo. Skeftetai h kybernhsh na kanei anadiarqrwseis ston tropo poy ameibontai oi aqlhtes, sta oikonomika megeqh me ta opoia ameibontai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Wstoso, milhsa ektenws gia thn prospaqeia poy qa katabalei h kybernhsh gia thn ejygiansh sto xwro toy Aqlhtismoy. Epanalambanw, gia trith fora se ayth thn aiqoysa, oti den qa kryftoyme pisw apo to daktylo mas, den qa meinoyme sta logia. Einai poly kalo na milaei kapoios gia kaqaroys Agwnes. Einai, omws, akomh kallitero na dineis th dynatothta, sthn Politeia, enos sobaroy elegxoy olwn aytwn twn fainomenwn poy kata kairoys, ana ton kosmo, stigmatizoyn ton Aqlhtismo. Gia paradeigma, yparxei ena nomiko plaisio, to opoio egine to 1999 kai mexri prin apo ligo kairo, wspoy oi ypoyrgoi ths neas kybernhshs ejedwsan to Proedriko Diatagma, den eixe teqei se efarmogh.

ANANIADHS: Se liges wres symplhrwnetai mia ebdomada apo tote poy jespase to skandalo. Ek toys apotelesmatos, krinontas toys xeirismoys h kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh apo to gegonos oti paremeine prwto qema epi epta synexeis hmeres to skandalo ntopingk twn dyo aqlhtwn, me apotelesma na skiazetai h epityxia twn Agwnwn. Mhpws, qa eprepe na exoyn ginei alloi xeirismoi apo th dikh sas pleyra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, qa sas pw oti oydepote sxoliazw ton tropo me ton opoio leitoyrgoyn ta MME poy allwste mona toys epilegoyn poio einai prwto, deytero h trito qema sta deltia eidhsewn toys. Bebaiws, den mporei na mhn paradexqei kapoios oti einai ena poly megalo qema, kati poy allwste eipa apo thn prwth stigmh. Symfwnw mazi sas oti skiasthke h eikona ths xwras mas sto ejwteriko. To exw pei edw kai hmeres, an qelete na to epanalabw kai shmera, den nomizw oti bohqaei se kati perissotero ayth h epanalhch. Oi kinhseis poy eginan apo thn pleyra ths Politeias, einai gnwstes. Anamenoyme oloi ta apotelesmata toys.

KYRITSHS: Qelw na rwthsw, an kai poies plhrofories eixe h kybernhsh olo to prohgoymeno diasthma gia to megeqos toy problhmatos twn anabolikwn ston ellhniko Aqlhtismo kai ti epraje, prokeimenoy na mhn ekteqei h xwra stoys Agwnes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yphrxe kamia sygkekrimenh plhroforia. Xqes, rwthqhka ``ean prokycei kati sth synexeia qa balete to maxairi sto kokalo''; Apanthsa, nai.

ZOYLAS: Shmera eixame kai mia nea anakoinwsh gia pente arsibaristes poy exoyn syllhfqei qetikoi sta test ntopingk kai qelw na mas peite an anhsyxeite mhpws ayth h eikona poy skiasthke, opws eipate prohgoymenws, exoyme mia synexeia dieqnwn dhmosieymatwn, pali, epikritika gia toys Agwnes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean isxyei h plhroforia den apokleietai na exoyme mia synexeia tetoiwn dhmosieymatwn, ta opoia omws den aforoyn th xwra mas, ws diorganwtria twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn toy 2004. Einai ena pagkosmio problhma. Qymizw oti h DOE, opws kai alloi dieqneis organismoi, polles fores exoyn epishmanei thn anagkh na exoyme kaqaroys Agwnes, eite se epipedo Olympiakwn Agwnwn, eite allwn aqlhtikwn diorganwsewn.

KALARITHS: Mhpws enhmerwqhke h kybernhsh gia toys logoys poy odhghsan thn Omospondia ths Palhs na aposyrei apo toys Olympiakoys ton olympionikh Qano sto Sidney, o opoios eixe kapoio epeisodio me ton proponhth toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw.

BLAXOS: Qelw na epanelqw sto prwto qema, poy qijate gia thn Olympia. Me aformh ta osa legontai tis teleytaies hmeres gia to ypoyrgeio Politismoy, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an h kybernhsh kai o ypoyrgos Politismoy k. Karamanlhs einai apofasismenoi se syntomo xroniko diasthma na anoijoyn to fakelo ``Kentriko Arxaiologiko Symboylio'' poy symfwna me osa legontai, ciqyrizontai kai yparxoyn san fhmes sta dhmosiografika grafeia, ton teleytaio xrono prin apo tis ekloges, eginan, qa xrhsimopoihsw th lejh orgia, sth lhch apofasewn poy eixan ws apotelesma na qigoyn megales perioysies politistikhs yfhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw kati sygkekrimeno kai den prokyptei kati sygkekrimeno apo thn erwthsh, opws tiqetai. Na eiste bebaios, omws, oti ean yparxoyn kataggelies gia tetoia qemata den qa afhsoyme aytes tis kataggelies na pesoyn sto keno.

KALARITHS: Epeidh, xqes, o en logw aqlhths ekane kapoies kataggelies ston ANT1 kai afhse, an qelete, aixmes gia ton proponhth toy, skopeyei h kybernhsh, efoson den enhmerwqhke mexri twra, na enhmerwqei, prokeimenoy na prolabei analoges ejelijeis me aythn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai poly piqano na exei enhmerwqei o armodios yfypoyrgos Politismoy. Qa enhmerwqw kai an exw kati qa sas to anakoinwsw.

KYRIAKIDOY: Xqes, sas rwthsa an prokeitai na ginei kapoia Enorkh Dioikhtikh Ejetash sxetika me to qema Kenterh @ Qanoy kai eipate oti qa perimenete ta apotelesmata ths eisaggelikhs ereynas. Qa hqela na rwthsw ean exete kapoia yponoia h kapoia ypocia oti kati den paei kala me ton kratiko mhxanismo, prepei na perimenete ton Eisaggelea na epembei gia na kanete mia Enorkh Dioikhtikh Ejetash; Den mporei na to kanei h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se kamia periptwsh den apajiwnoyme, th dikastikh ejoysia. O Eisaggeleas einai panw apo polloys alloys kai ws armodio organo ths anejarthths ellhnikhs Dikaiosynhs exei th dynatothta na ekdwsei symperasmata sth bash mias ereynas poy hdh diejagetai kai na proxwrhsei stis katallhles energeies. Otan o Eisaggeleas exei epilhfqei enos qematos, einai aytonohto oti h Politeia qa perimenei thn anejarthth dikastikh ejoysia na kanei th doyleia ths.

KYRIAKIDOY: Den anaferomoyn sto ypoyrgeio Politismoy. Anaferomoyn perissotero sto nosokomeio kai stis astynomikes arxes, to brady toy atyxhmatos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: An katalaba kala, lete oti qa htan kalytero na eixame kapoies epitropes ypallhlwn toy ypoyrgeioy Ygeias h toy ypoyrgeioy Politismoy anti toy Eisaggelea; Ektimw oti einai poly kalytera poy o Eisaggeleas exei analabei thn ypoqesh. Qa perimenoyme to porisma toy.

KYRIAKIDOY: Den katalabainw giati den mporoyn na ginoyn taytoxrona.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qewrw aytonohth thn apanthsh. Ti na sas ejhghsw; O Eisaggeleas ws organo ths anejarthths ellhnikhs Dikaiosynhs exei epilhfqei toy qematos. Yparxei kati kalytero ap@ ayto; Se mia syntetagmenh Politeia, pisteyw oti den yparxei.

TSIODRAS: Eipate, prohgoymenws, oti an paroysiastei antistoixo fainomeno, to maxairi qa ftasei sto kokalo. Mporeite na mas peite ti diaforetiko qa ginei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite otan lete ``ti diaforetiko qa ginei'';

TSIODRAS: Edw kai mia ebdomada perimename tis apofaseis ths Ellhnikhs Olympiakhs Epitrophs kai ths DOE. Epishs, brisketai se ejelijh kai h eisaggelikh ereyna sthn opoia exoyn parapemfqei ta panta. An eixame antistoixo fainomeno, ti qa ginotan wste to maxairi na fqasei sto kokalo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxei ``ti qa kaname'', alla poia einai h politikh proqesh ths kybernhshs. Einai, loipon, na mhn ``koykoylwsei'' kamia ypoqesh se opoiondhpote tomea ths kaqhmerinothtas.

TSIODRAS: Omws, ws Politeia, perimenei ayth th stigmh ta apotelesmata ths eisaggelikhs ereynas. Den exei parei kapoia prwtoboylia. Perimename thn apofash ths EOEE, ths DOE kai twra thn eisaggelikh ereyna. @Ara, pws to maxairi qa ftasei sto kokalo; Enapokeitai ston Eisaggelea an qa to ftasei sto kokalo h oxi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai to prwto kai shmantikotero poy mporei na ginei gia na exoyme apanthseis se anapanthta erwthmatika poy yparxoyn;

TSIODRAS: Egw qa perimena, isws, h politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Aqlhtismoy na jekinoyse parallhla mia diadikasia, prokeimenoy na dei kapoia pragmata, ta opoia den empiptoyn sthn armodiothta toy Eisaggelea.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyme diaforetikh leitoyrgia kai oxi epeidh h ellhnikh Politeia exei kapoia idiaiterothta. Epanalambanw oti h DOE einai anejarthtos dieqnhs Organismos. To poioi metexoyn @aqlhtes, proponhtes, omades- h poioi den metexoyn einai kaqara qema ths DOE kai allwn anejarthtwn arxwn. Aytes, loipon, apofasizoyn na steiloyn to qema, to opoio talanise thn epikairothta epi mia ebdomada, se enan allon Organismo (IAAF) poy asxoleitai me qemata toy stiboy. Parallhla, h ellhnikh Politeia, dia toy Eisaggelews, kinei tis dikes ths diadikasies. Qa mporoyse na ginei kati parapanw mono se epipedo entypwsiasmoy. Ayto, omws, poy protimame emeis einai na mhn yparxei kanenos eidoys logikh entypwsiasmoy, na mh doqei kamia parastash, alla na doyme oysiastika apotelesmata apo thn eisaggelikh ereyna. Otan sas lew epi meres kai diapistwnete oti se dyo basika qemata toy aqlhtismoy @podosfairo, ntopingk kai antintopingk kontrol- h kybernhsh exei jekinhsei na ylopoiei sxedia poy epi xronia emenan sto syrtari allwn kybernhsewn, ayto den einai apodeijh safoys politikhs prwtoboylias; Oti h kybernhsh exei stoxo na balei to maxairi sto kokalo; Na diorqwsei ta kakws keimena;

POYLIDOY: Den einai, omws, ypoqesh ths DOE to na efarmostei o nomos peri asymbibastoy gia ton proponhth k. Tzeko. Ayto einai ypoqesh ths Politeias@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws, symfwnw.

POYLIDOY: @ h opoia edeije mia aneparkeia. Twra einai qema eisaggelikwn arxwn h einai qema kai qesmikwn organwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: ``Ta toy Kaisaros tw Kaisari kai ta toy Qeoy tw Qew''. O,ti exei na prajei h Politeia, to prattei kai qa synexisei me poly pio beltiwmeno tropo ap@ oti se perasmena xronia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ki eseis edw xqes kai o k. Alogoskoyfhs eipate oti dwsate to pososto 8,3% twn ELPE sto Omilo Latsh giati htan ylopoihsh apofashs ths prohgoymenhs kybernhshs. Dhladh, akoloyqeite thn politikh ths prohgoymenhs kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai allo h politikh kai allo oi symbaseis poy ypografontai. Tis symbaseis poy ypografei to ellhniko Dhmosio oi kybernhseis exoyn thn ypoxrewsh na tis akoloyqhsoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla sas kathgoroyn. O k. Papoytshs kathgorhse thn kybernhsh, oti proxwrhse me adiafaneis diadikasies. Ti symbainei, dhladh; H yphrxe apofash kai den thn gnwrize o prwhn ypoyrgos @dioti htan ypoyrgos o k. Papoytshs- h den yphrxe apofash. Sto katw-katw ths grafhs o Prwqypoyrgos leei oti ``egw den exw desmeyqei gia tipota''. Oyte exei pei oti qa efarmosei symbaseis. Den exei ypogracei -leei- kanena grammatio me kanenan. Tote giati ypegrafh; Mporoyse na mhn to efarmosei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws qa qymaste exoyn, hdh, ginei epanadiapragmateyseis symbasewn sto ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas -kai malista me poly megalh epityxia apo thn pleyra toy k. Sphlioy Sphliwtopoyloy, ws ypoyrgoy- etsi wste na wfelhqei to ellhniko Dhmosio. Ara, loipon, h proeklogikh mas desmeysh, oti epanadiapragmateyomaste symbaseis gia tis opoies pisteyame oti qa eprepe na eixan ginei me kalytero tropo ep` wfeleia toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy, ginetai hdh prajh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, ayto einai gia wfeleia toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy; Gia wfeleia toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy dwsate to 8,3%;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa gia tis symbaseis, oi opoies eixan egeirei ypocies proeklogika. Aytes epanadiapragmateyomaste.

SPYROPOYLOS: Qa hqela mia dieykrinish gia to peristatiko twn Xaniwn: Oi dyo anqrwpoi apo toys opoioys zhthqhke na metaboyn sto Tmhma, prokeimenoy na ejakribwqei h taytothta toys, htan ypallhloi soyhdikhs etaireias poy pragmatopoiei antintopingk elegxoys ejoysiodothmenh apo thn ``oysanto'', h opoia einai h amerikanikh yphresia antintopingk. O sygkekrimenos elegxos egine stis 12/8/2004. H DOE diateinetai oti elegxoys, meta tis 30 Ioylioy, pragmatopoioyn mono oi dikes ths yphresies. Gnwrizete, mhpws, ayth h eggrafh ejoysiodothsh poy epedeijan stoys astynomikoys apo poia yphresia h poion organismo einai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, alla mporw na to ereynhsw. O k. Oikonomoy isws exei kati perissotero na prosqesei.

OIKONOMOY: Se epikoinwnia toy Tmhmatos Asfaleias Xaniwn me tis armodies yphresies toy ``Aqhna 2004'' yphrje h diabebaiwsh oti oi sygkekrimenoi exoyn ejoysiodothsh gia na dienerghsoyn antintopingk kontrol kai energoyn nomotypa.

SPYROPOYLOS: Dhladh, apo ton ``Aqhna 2004'' einai ayth h ejoysiodothsh;

OIKONOMOY: Oxi, apo ton ``Aqhna 2004'' doqhke h epibebaiwsh peri ths nomimhs energeias toys. Ta eggrafa toys htan entajei, kaqws synergazontai me sygkekrimenh etaireia poy exei nomimh ejoysiodothsh gia na pragmatopoiei aytoys toys elegxoys.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O ``Aqhna 2004'' -ean mporw na dieykolynw th syzhthsh- einai h Organwtikh Epitroph gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Ta ypoloipa qemata anaferontai ola sth DOE.

SPYROPOYLOS; Rwtw, epeidh diateinetai h DOE oti elegxoys pragmatopoiei mono ayth meta tis 30 Ioylioy. Kai blepoyme oti mia amerikanikh yphresia antintopingk prospaqei na kanei elegxo stis 12 Aygoystoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To erwthma sas, katalabainete oti afora th DOE kai oxi thn ellhnikh kybernhsh.

SPYROPOYLOS: Prospaqw na dieykrinisw ean htan paranomos o elegxos ths amerikanikhs yphresias@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw katanohsei apolyta ti prospaqeite na dieykrinisete. Aplws sas lew oti ayto einai qema ths DOE kai den mporei na to apanthsei h ellhnikh kybernhsh.

GKILSON: Poios zhthse na pane aytoi oi dyo elegktes gia ejakribwsh stoixeiwn sto Tmhma twn Xaniwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa xqes. H Ellhnikh Astynomia.

GKILSON: Eixe kapoia klhsh h EL.AS. gia na to zhthsei ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Htan paroysa. Mallon den exete enhmerwqei gia to xqesino briefing, opoy anefera xronologika olh thn istoria. H EL.AS. htan paroysa.

GKILSON: Otan phgan gia ton elegxo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws.

GKILSON: Kai otan phgainei kapoios gia elegxo, bgainei h EL.AS. ton pairnei kai ton paei sto Tmhma, dhladh; Einai dynaton;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Fantazomai oti ki eseis poy zeite edw ena megalo meros ths hmeras sas qelete na eiste bebaioi oti den qa mpei kapoios na kanei mia zhmia sta mhxanhmata poy xrhsimopoieite h na sas enoxlhsei sth doyleia sas. Ara, qelete ton elegxo ths Astynomias. H oxi;

GKILSON: Ayth h ejakribwsh den mporoyse na ginei epi topoy, sto jenodoxeio; Eprepe na pane sto Tmhma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qetete diaforetiko erwthma twra. Na ta paroyme ena-ena. Symfwneite se ayto poy sas eipa: Oti xreiazetai na thrhsoyme kanones asfaleias;

GKILSON: Sto plaisio toy Syntagmatos kai twn atomikwn dikaiwmatwn, ennoeitai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yphrje kanenos eidoys parabiash toy Syntagmatos. Ean exete kapoia antiqeth plhroforia, as thn anaferete.

GKILSON: Rwtw, giati den mporoyse na ginei ekei o elegxos kai eprepe na pane sto Tmhma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To giati h EL.AS elegje sto Tmhma kai oxi epi topoy, me sygxwreite, alla ayto to erwthma den qa to apanthsw.

Sas eyxaristw.

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