Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-08-17

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Aqhna, 17 Aygoystoy 2004

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Ta prwta metallia gia thn Ellada apoteloyn gegonos. Qelw na ekfrasw kai apo ayto to bhma ta qerma sygxarhthria stoys ``xrysoys'' aqlhtes katadyshs Niko Siranidh kai Qwma Mpimh, alla kai ston ``xalkino'' arsibarista polyolympionikh Lewnida Sampanh.

Oloklhrwqhke, prin apo ligo, h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs me qemata syzhthshs toy ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs. O k. Prokophs Paylopoylos sthn eishghsh toy anaferqhke sthn prowqhsh Diatagmatos gia ton periorismo twn synarmodiothtwn se treis kai katw ypografes, ara kai synarmodiothtes. Ayto afora peripoy 90 periptwseis shmantikwn dioikhtikwn prajewn, kyriws gia th dieykolynsh toy polith kai gia thn proselkysh megalwn ependysewn.

Syzhthqhkan, epishs, oi basikoi ajones toy prwtoy sxedioy nomoy gia ejorqologismo ths nomoqetikhs diadikasias me ajones thn anagkaiothta twn nomoqetikwn ryqmisewn, tis oikonomikes epiptwseis kai th diafaneia.

Qelw na qymisw oti apo to prwto kiolas ypoyrgiko symboylio o Prwqypoyrgos eixe dwsei odhgies stoys ypoyrgoys gia ton periorismo ths polynomias gia nomosxedia, ta opoia prepei na proetoimazontai para poly kala, etsi wste na exoyn apotelesmata se baqos xronoy kai na einai leitoyrgika.

Oson afora tis ekdhlwseis poy ginontai, edw, sto Zappeio: Kaq` olh th diarkeia ths hmeras mporeite na parakoloyqhsete sto Peristylio ekqesh ``H texnh toy karnabalikoy stoixeioy'' poy diorganwnei o Organismos ``Patra, Politistikh Prwteyoysa 2006''. Stis 3 meta to meshmeri, sthn aiqoysa pollaplwn xrhsewn proballetai apo to Ellhniko Kentro Kinhmatografoy h tainia ``To dentro poy plhgwname'' toy Dhmoy Abdeliwdh. Sthn idia aiqoysa, amesws meta qa problhqoyn dyo ntokymanter: ``O ieros braxos ths Akropolhs'' kai ``Erexqeio kai Xronos''. Stis 8 to brady, to ypoyrgeio Toyristikhs Anaptyjhs diorganwnei sto Peristylio bradia ellhnikhs gastronomias kai moysikhs.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to ayriano programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy: Ayrio, qa metabei sthn Olympia, opoy qa parakoloyqhsei ton agwna sfairobolias poy qa diejaxqei sto arxaio Stadio ths Olympias.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

TSIODRAS: Sxetika me thn ypoqesh Kenterh kai Qanoy, an gnwrizete ti perilambanei to porisma ths Troxaias poy qa doqei shmera ston eisaggelea kai an yparxei skech stis epikoinwnies poy exete me toys aqlhtikoys paragontes afairesh ths adeias proponhth ston k. Tzeko;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To prwto erwthma exei apanthqei apo hmeres kai xqes epanelaba thn apanthsh. H diadikasia ths proanakrishs den koinopoieitai se politika proswpa. Koinopoieitai mono ston eisaggelea. Apo ton eisaggelea, loipon, kai tis energeies toy sth synexeia qa maqoyme ti akribws exei symbei. Se o,ti afora to deytero erwthma, qa hqela na kanw mia genikh, alla kai ejeidikeymenh topoqethsh: to poioi aqlhtes metexoyn se agwnismata, poioi proponhtes, poies omades metexoyn h den metexoyn einai qemata armodiothtas anejarthtwn aqlhtikwn forewn. Sygkekrimena se ayto poy me rwthsate, qelw na epanalabw oti xreos ths Politeias einai na qetei toys kanones kai na diasfalizei thn thrhsh aytwn. H ejygiansh toy Aqlhtismoy einai apaithsh ths koinwnias kai ypoxrewsh ths Politeias. H kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei sthn ejygiansh, opws eipa xqes, xwris desmeyseis, xwris ypokrisies.

GKILSON: Sthn periptwsh toy k. Tzekoy, omws, yparxoyn kathgories oti parabiase to sxetiko nomo, oti den epitrepetai na poylane oysies aytoi oi opoioi einai proponhtes. Ayto den einai kybernhtiko qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eipa to antiqeto. Einai qema nomoqetiko.

GKILSON: H efarmogh toy nomoy...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kata to Syntagma se oles tis politismenes koinwnies einai qema nomoy kai h efarmogh toy nomoy epafietai sth dikastikh ejoysia.

GKILSON: Prepei na epilhfqei aytoboylws kapoios eisaggeleas gia to qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai dynato na moy zhtate na apanthsw sto an prepei enas eisaggeleas na epilhfqei aytoboylws; Katargei to ``aytoboylws'' ayto poy me rwtate.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, na allajoyme atmosfaira kai na kanw mia kaqara politikh erwthsh kai anaferomai sto Kypriako, stis ejelijeis: Qa gnwrizete bebaiws oti ayth thn wra yparxei mia megalh anhsyxia sthn kypriakh kybernhsh. Yparxoyn megales pieseis kyriws apo tis HPA gia na anagnwrisei h kypriakh kybernhsh to paranomo aerodromio ths Tympoy kai to anoigma toy, kati poy qa shmainei to eleyqero emporio me tis ejw xwres kai qa einai para poly dyskolh h ejelijh. Na sas pw oti ayrio sthn Toyrkia ginetai mia syskech gia to Kypriako, sthn opoia gia prwth fora, ektos apo ton ceydoprwqypoyrgo Talat, symmetexei kai o Ntenktas kai einai ena apo ta qemata poy qa teqoyn. Qa hqela na gnwrizw exei plhroforhsh h ellhnikh kybernhsh, sxetika me to zhthma ayto kai poia einai h qesh ths gia tis ejelijeis aytes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai qemata, kyriws, ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization)@

KWNSTANTINIDHS: To ICAO exei arnhqei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai qemata ICAO kai oxi qemata, ta opoia exoyn na kanoyn me opoiadhpote kybernhsh h me memonwmenh, mikrh h megalh xwra. Qa sas ypenqymisw oti prin apo peripoy mia ebdomada o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Molybiaths eixe synanthsh me ton Proedro toy ICAO. Den yparxei kanenos eidoys prwtoboylia h diaqesh apo thn pleyra toy ICAO. Kai ayto to exoyme epishmanei ki emeis, ws kybernhsh, oti den qa qelame na yparxei gia na ginei ayto poy eipate prohgoymenws sxetika me to aerodromio sta katexomena.

KYRIAKIDOY: Mhpws mporeite na mas peite pws akribws qa proxwrhsei h kybernhsh sthn ejygiansh toy aqlhtismoy; Poia metra pairnete h skepteste na parete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws eipa kai xqes, exoyme hdh proxwrhsei se shmantikes prwtoboylies sto xwro toy podosfairoy. Ta metra poy xreiazontai qa proxwrhsoyn to syntomotero dynato. To ti akribws qa ginei, den eimai se qesh na sas to pw, edw. Oi armodioi ypoyrgoi qa melethsoyn ta problhmata me toys armodioys foreis sto xwro toy aqlhtismoy kai otan einai etoimoi qa anakoinwsoyn ta nomoqetika diatagmata h alles prajeis stis opoies prepei na proxwrhsoyn.

KYRIAKIDOY: Ennoeite oti exei dwsei entolh o Prwqypoyrgos stoys ypoyrgoys na proxwrhsoyn s@ ayta ta qemata, meta to gegonos poy egine;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos, amesws meta thn analhch ths diakybernhshs ths xwras, pragmati, edwse sxetikh entolh stoys ypoyrgoys. O prwtos stoxos me ton opoio jekinhse h kybernhsh htan o xwros toy podosfairoy. Synexizoyme kai stoys ypoloipoys aqlhtikoys xwroys.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Sas metaferqhke xqes h eikona gia ton proponhth k. Tzeko oti ektos apo proponhths, diathrei kai thn idiothta toy eisagwgea, toy emporoy enisxytikwn oysiwn. Qa hqela na rwthsw to ejhs: Pera apo to gegonos toy oti an yparxei h oxi asymbibasto, htan sth dynatothta kai tis proqeseis ths Politeias, toy kratoys kai ths kybernhshs na parembei, wste na mh mporei to idio proswpo na diathrei aytes tis dyo idiothtes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Na epanalabw: Den yparxei proswpo, oso gnwsto kai an einai, se opoio xwro kai an anhkei, na einai panw apo to nomo. Ayto einai jekaqarh politikh boylhsh. To epitassei to Syntagma men, alla, opws oloi gnwrizoyme, xreiazetai kai politikh boylhsh. H kybernhsh exei ayth thn politikh boylhsh. Oydeis einai peran kai panw twn kanonismwn kai twn nomwn ayths ths Politeias.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Otan lete oti h kybernhsh qa kanei ejygiansh ston aqlhtismo, qa ginei kai kapoia ereyna, endexomenws, gia periptwseis ntopingk, qa paei pio pisw h ereyna, qa katalogistoyn eyqynes; Yparxei ayth h proqesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora qemata ntopingk, qa hqela na sas pw oti milhse, xqes, o armodios ypoyrgos k. Orfanos. Ayto to opoio brhkame, htan dystyxws ena nomoqetiko plaisio kai tipote perissotero. Me prwtoboylia toy k. Orfanoy, meta thn analhch twn kybernhtikwn kaqhkontwn toy, oi armodioi toy Eqnikoy Symboylioy Katapolemhshs Ntopingk egkatastaqhkan se grafeia entos toy yfypoyrgeioy. Ara, loipon, yphrje politikh prwtoboylia poly protoy emfanistei h gnwsth ypoqesh poy syzhtame edw kai liges hmeres.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: O yfypoyrgos Aqlhtismoy, xqes, eixe mia -qa legame- pio prowqhmenh, ean moy epitrepetai h ekfrash, topoqethsh apenanti sto epimaxo zhthma twn hmerwn. Eipe oti qa hqele h ellhnikh pleyra na qesei ektos olympiakhs omadas toys dyo aqlhtes. Eseis, ws kybernhtikos ekproswpos, kratate -qa mporoysame na poyme- ligo perissoterh ``amyna'', perimenontas tis ejelijeis. Ayto den fwtografizei dyo grammes mesa sthn kybernhtikh qesh apenanti sto qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa htan etsi opws akribws to lete, ean ontws eixe kanei o k. Orfanos th dhlwsh thn opoia feretai oti ekane. Den exei kanei tetoia dhlwsh o k. Orfanos. Den dinw proqesh se kanenan dhmosiografo gia to pws metaferqhke h dhlwsh se ayth thn aiqoysa. Exw sth diaqesh moy to deltio Typoy me hmeromhnia 15 Aygoystoy 2004, opoy oydepote o k. Orfanos -kai prokyptei apo ayto to deltio- xrhsimopoihse th frash, thn opoia epanalabate ki eseis prohgoymenws. H apanthsh toy perilambanei metajy allwn kai ta ejhs: ``H Politeia prepei na kanei ta bhmata ths prosektika. Ayto poy eprepe na kanw, ws yfypoyrgos, to ekana kai dhmosia kai idiwtika. Den mporw, omws, na epibalw th lhch mias apofashs se aqlhtiko organo''. Einai o,ti exw pei ki egw edw se ayth thn aiqoysa. Ean qelete thn proswpikh moy apoch, leei o k. Orfanos, to qema ths symmetoxhs poy dhmioyrghqhke, eprepe na kleisei eswterika apo ellhnika xeria. To na kleisei ena qema shmainei me thn alfa h bhta periptwsh. Den shmainei mono me thn alfa periptwsh, thn opoia eseis anaferate, kaloproaireta, eimai bebaios.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Pantws, qa symfwneite oti twra den exei kleisei to qema. O k. Ypoyrgos leei oti qa eprepe na exei kleisei, epi tetrahmero synexizetai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo th stigmh poy synexizetai, den exei kleisei. Alla, ayto einai ena diaforetiko erwthma. Egw lew oti oydepote o k. Orfanos dhlwse oti eprepe na eixe ginei ayto poy akoysthke, dikhn erwthsews kai xwris na yparxei -epanalambanw, eimai bebaios gi ayto- proqesh apo to dhmosiografo poy ekane thn erwthsh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Symfwneite oti qa eprepe na exei kleisei to qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa ti leei o k. Orfanos.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Eseis symfwneite oti qa eprepe na exei kleisei to qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia ena qema to opoio exei talanisei th xwra kai exei dhmioyrghsei kakh eikona sto ejwteriko, einai dynaton na mhn symfwnoyn oloi oti qa eprepe na kleisei nwritera; Na exoyn doqei apanthseis; Alimono!

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Einai poly entones, pleon, oi plhrofories kai oi fhmes oti exei emfanistei o anqrwpos o opoios metefere toys dyo aqlhtes sto KAT. Qa mporoysate na epibebaiwsete h na diaceysete kati tetoio; Einai poly shmantiko to stoixeio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den to gnwrizw.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: O k. Oikonomoy isws;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai qema ths proanakritikhs diadikasias. Jerete oti h ypoqesh exei parapemfqei ston Eisaggelea. Kata synepeia, qa perimenoyme ton Eisaggelea na dwsei apanthseis se ayto.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Gia to ean emfanisthke o sygkekrimenos poliths;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai, einai meros ths eisaggelikhs ereynas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Giati h kybernhsh den bohqa sto na antimetwpistei to problhma poy exei dhmioyrghqei me tis adeies kerkides stis olympiakes egkatastaseis kai exei prokalesei th dysforia ths DOE; Giati den agorazei eisithria; Qymizw oti thn protash thn eixe ypobalei h yfypoyrgos Aqlhtismoy Fanh Petralia, thn aperrice meta bdelygmias o ``AQHNA 2004'', o opoios thn epanefere gia na thn aporricei pali, en telei, o ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Giwrgos Alogoskoyfhs. Kai en telei poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs panw se ayto to qema; Einai ena problhma poy afora mono thn Organwtikh Epitroph; Den einai basikos foreas ylopoihshs twn Agwnwn h kybernhsh kai qa pistwqei kai ta qetika kai ta arnhtika sto telos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa moy epitrecete na pisteyw oti ta qetika h ta arnhtika den pistwnontai h xrewnontai monon apo to ean exoyn gemisei h oxi oi kerkides kapoiwn stadiwn. Giati o genikos aforismos oti einai adeies oi kerkides den eystaqei kai den einai kai alhqhs. Exw, hdh, kanei apo xqes ektenh anafora sto qema.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa bohqhsei h kybernhsh na agorastoyn kapoia eisithria; Shmera sto MBC oi ekproswpoi Typoy toy ``AQHNA 2004'' eipan oti yparxei mia syzhthsh@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na ginei kati tetoio, opws exoyme dhlwsei kai palaiotera.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Eipate prin oti ena qema poy exei talanisei thn Ellada, kalo einai na eixe kleisei nwritera. Ayto shmainei oti qa eprepe na epispeysqoyn oi diadikasies apo thn pleyra ths DOE; Qa eprepe na yparxei allh antimetwpish apo thn EOE;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai dyo anejarthtes arxes. Pisteyw oti kaqe nohmwn anqrwpos antilambanetai ti shmainei oti to qema qa eprepe na eixe kleisei nwritera.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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