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Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-01-28

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 28 Ianoyarioy 2004

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

PITTARAS: Me th diagrafh toy k. Anqopoyloy exei jekaqarisei to topio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Politika ayto to qema kleinei edw kai den exoyme na poyme tipota allo. Emeis tolmhsame. Tolmhsame kai deijame ti ennooyme otan milame gia ``mia politikh me hqos, me arxes, me ajies'', mia politikh poy sygkroyoetai me ta symferonta kai den fobatai to politiko kostos. As tolmhsoyn kai oi alloi na prajoyn kati analogo. Me thn politika shmantikh kai symbolikh apofash toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy deijame poia einai h politikh mas, pws pame sto mellon, poio einai to orama kai to sxedio mas gia thn Ellada kai thn koinwnia. Gia ta eidika qemata kai tis atomikes eyqynes, otan qa erqei h wra.

PITTARAS: Yparxei qema diagrafhs kai toy k. Xrysanqakopoyloy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw kati tetoio.

POYLIDOY: Kai an to zhthsei o idios;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den zhtei kapoios th diagrafh toy, aplws apoxwrei.

PITTARAS: To ejetazete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw tetoia enhmerwsh. Allwste, opws jerete, ayta ta qemata aforoyn to komma, to Ektelestiko Grafeio.

BLADIMHROY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxei periptwsh o Giwrgos Papandreoy, meta thn periodeia toy sth Makedonia, na synanthqei me toys treis boyleytes poy apodeixthke meta thn omologia toy k. Anqopoyloy oti den ypegracan thn tropologia; Kai akomh mia erwthsh: Htan enhmerwmenos o Prwqypoyrgos gia thn prwtoboylia toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy na aposyrei ta tria arqra toy nomosxedioy gia thn toyristikh anaptyjh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Enhmerwse armodiws o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, oxi apeyqeias ton Prwqypoyrgo, alla enhmerwse gia thn prwtoboylia toy na aposyrei ta arqra. Ayto einai gegonos. Dhladh, htan gnwsto apo xqes oti qa analabei prwtoboylia gia na aposyrei tis ``loipes diatajeis'', dioti hqele na perasei o kentrikos kormos toy nomosxedioy toy. Prokeimenoy, logw toy periorismenoy xronoy, na dieykolynei ton kentriko kormo toy nomosxedioy toy apesyre ola ta legomena loipa qemata, tis epimeroys diatajeis. Prepei na sas qymisw oti sta nomosxedia yparxei to kentriko meros kai sto telos yparxoyn oi loipes diatajeis.

Oson afora to prwto erwthma sas, den yparxei kapoia programmatismenh synanthsh. Kata th diarkeia ths periodeias toy sthn Aitwloakarnania, o k. Papandreoy eixe mia oligolepth synomilia me ton k. Koyroymplh. Den mporw, omws, na problecw ean kati tetoio epanalhfqei. Synanthsh, omws, programmatismenh den yparxei.

TAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, syggnwmh, alla den htan ``loipes diatajeis'', htan sygkekrimena arqra.

PRWTOPAPAS: Arqra poy perilambanoyn loipes diatajeis. Einai loipes diatajeis, me thn ennoia oti den einai o kormos toy nomosxedioy.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Apo ton Typo, shmera, kataggelletai oti oi sygkekrimenes loipes diatajeis poy lete ejyphretoysan sygkekrimena epixeirhmatika symferonta. Exete kati tetoio ypoch sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Se kamia periptwsh. Ayto kriqhke skopimo apo ton idio ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo, o opoios endiaferotan gia to kentriko meros, tis kentrikes diatajeis, ton kormo toy nomosxedioy. Prokeimenoy, loipon, na mh dhmioyrghqoyn peraiterw syzhthseis, kaqysterhseis, oi opoies qa apebainan se baros toy synoloy toy nomosxedioy, o k. Tsoxatzopoylos ekrine skopimh ayth thn kinhsh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Eixate pei oti qa perasoyn ta nomosxedia apo th Boylh, toylaxiston ayta poy apoteloyn meros twn qesmikwn prwtoboyliwn ths kybernhshs. To nomosxedio gia ta iamatika loytra htan ena tetoio nomosxedio;

PRWTOPAPAS: To ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs qewrei oti me ayto ton tropo lynontai mia seira problhmata kai oti ayto to nomosxedio einai xrhsimo na chfistei kai ayto eishghqhke. Gia na to dieykolynei malista ayto, gia na mhn apotelesei stoixeio makrwn syzhthsewn se ayto to syntomo xroniko diasthma, o k. Tsoxatzopoylos afairese seira diatajewn kai apo o,ti gnwrizw, den synanta kai antidraseis.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Sas anhsyxei to gegonos, ws kybernwn komma, alla kai ws kybernhsh, oti fainetai na phgainoyme stis ekloges ths 7hs Martioy me kyrio qema ths proeklogikhs atzentas th skandalologia kai syzhthsh gyrw apo th diafqora;

PRWTOPAPAS: Merikoi, epeidh den exoyn politikes qeseis kai programma, epeidh den mporoyn na arqrwsoyn politiko logo, epixeiroyn na kalyfqoyn pisw apo thn epi ep` aoriston h toylaxiston mexri tis ekloges paratash aytoy toy klimatos ths skandalologias. Yphrje ena sygkekrimeno problhma poy apasxolhse thn koinwnia, me th gnwsth tropologia, thn opoia brady chfise h Boylh. Me dikh mas parembash dwsame th dikh mas apanthsh. Htan mia apanthsh hqoys, sthrigmenh sthn politikh arxwn kai ajiwn. Mia apanthsh poy deixnei poio einai to orama kai to sxedio mas gia thn koinwnia poy oneireyomaste. Ayto ekane o Giwrgos Papandreoy kai me ayto kleinei ayto to kefalaio. Makari kai oi alloi na ekanan to idio, alla den tolmhsan. Den mporei o proeklogikos agwnas na synexistei me ena qema sto opoio oi apanthseis exoyn doqei. O proeklogikos agwnas prepei na proseggisei ta problhmata toy polith. Prepei na dwsei tis lyseis kai tis protaseis mas gia ta megala qemata poy aforoyn thn apasxolhsh, thn paideia, thn ygeia, thn oikonomia, ta qemata ths ejwterikhs politikhs, ta qemata poy aforoyn to mellon ths Elladas kai twn Ellhnwn. Gnwrizete oti yparxoyn kai problhmata poy syndeontai me to montelo diakybernhshs, th sthrijh twn qesmwn, th sxesh toy polith me thn politikh. Se ayta ta problhmata, o k. Papandreoy qa parembei me sygkekrimenes protaseis kai apo shmera. Pisteyoyme oti h politikh prepei na aggizei kai na antapokrinetai sta problhmata kai tis prosdokies toy polith. Ayto poy endiaferei ton polith prepei na akoystei apo ola ta kommata. Na topoqethqoyn kai na proteinoyn tis dikes toys lyseis. Na ginei paraqesh kai antiparaqesh idewn. Den mporei na pame se enan proeklogiko agwna, opoy qa dhmioyrgeitai synexws mia gkriza zwnh, otan oi apanthseis exoyn doqei, otan oi lyseis exoyn breqei, otan h politikh hqikh exei kyriarxhsei me th stash mas. Ayto qa htan kai adiko. Ypokryptei parallhla kai thn proqesh mias paratajhs, ths N.D., poy den exei politikes apanthseis, den exei programma.

TAKHS: Epeidh eipate oti o proeklogikos agwnas prepei na epikentrwqei sta problhmata toy polith, qelw na sas pw oti exei kykloforhsei mia entonh fhmologia, apo xqes to brady, oti o Prwqypoyrgos, apoce, sthn pro hmerhsias diatajews syzhthsh sth Boylh, qa bgalei kapoia xartia poy aforoyn stelexh ths N.D. kai qa epidothqei olo ayto to klima skandalologias. Epibebaiwnete kati tetoio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw tetoia enhmerwsh. Epanalambanw oti apo emas oi kinhseis eginan. Yphrje, pragmati, ena qema arxhs, poy apasxolhse thn ellhnikh koinwnia. Apanthsame kaqara, dynamika, symbolika, peistika. H apanthsh doqhke apo ton Giwrgo Papandreoy. Feygoyme mprosta emeis. Qa anaptyjoyme tis protaseis mas gia ta problhmata toy polith, gia to neo montelo diakybernhshs kai gia th nea sxesh polith-politikhs. Oxi mono gia na mhn janaginoyn tetoia pragmata, alla gia na mporoyme na dwsoyme to orama kai to sxedio ths Elladas poy qeloyme. An h N.D. mporei na akoloyqhsei me dikes ths protaseis, paei kala. An omws epimeinei na dhmioyrghqei ena texnhto nefos panw apo thn politikh zwh, einai safes oti qa apanthsoyme politika se ayth thn taktikh.

ZOYLAS: Eipate oti merikoi den exoyn programma kai epixeiroyn na kalyfqoyn pisw apo th skandalologia. H kybernhsh, omws, prowqhse th sygkekrimenh tropologia kai oi boyleytes toy PASOK thn ypegracan.

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh den thn prowqhse, dioti, ean thn prowqoyse, o k. Paxtas qa htan sth qesh toy.

ZOYLAS: Ekeinos thn yperamynetai.

PRWTOPAPAS: Thn yperamynetai, alla exei xasei th qesh toy, epeidh thn yperamynetai. Oyte ypochfios den qa einai.

ZOYLAS: Polla stelexh ths kybernhshs, polloi boyleytes toy PASOK dierwthqhkan ean ontws qa prepei na epanejetastei h stash toy k. Papandreoy enanti twn triwn, dedomenoy oti h plastografia exei ginei apodekth apo ton k. Anqopoylo, o opoios kai apepefqh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ejhghsa apo xqes ton politiko symbolismo sthn kinhsh toy k. Papandreoy. Kai gia na meinei dynatos aytos o politikos symbolismos qa prepei na meinoyme sth grammh poy exoyme mexri twra. Ejalloy, h kinhsh ayth apo diafores metrhseis poy blepw, se genikes grammes synanta thn apodoxh toy ellhnikoy laoy.

SIDERHS: Mias kai milhsate gia sthrijh twn qesmwn, einai sthrijh toy Koinoboylioy aytos o orymagdos nomosxediwn poy fernete; Polles antikybernhtikes efhmerides grafoyn ``xaos sto Koinoboylio''.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai oi synhqeis yperboles. Den yparxei kanena xaos sto Koinoboylio. As mh metaferetai edw mia kampania, h opoia adikei to Koinoboylio ws qesmo. Mhn isopedwnoyme syllhbdhn ta panta. Qa prepei na exoyme agwnia gia thn anabaqmish toy qesmoy toy Koinoboylioy. O Giwrgos Papandreoy, me nees protaseis kai tolmhres idees, qa anaferqei kai se ayta ta qemata.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pera apo thn antiparaqesh twn kommatwn kai tis skopimothtes ths kaqe pleyras, ths N.D. en prokeimenw kai tis dikes sas, qa hqela th qesh ths kybernhshs sto ejhs qema: Sas apasxolei to gegonos oti mesa apo olh ayth th diadikasia apajiwnetai to ependytiko klima; Me alla logia den klonizetai h empistosynh kratoys-ependyth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Genika ola ayta den einai eyxarista. Bebaiws mas endiaferei to ependytiko klima, ayto, omws, prepei na einai ygies. To ependytiko klima prepei na sthrizetai se kaqares ejhghseis, se kaqares prooptikes, se kaqares qeseis kai oxi se tropologies sth 1 h wra to brady.

MIXAHL: An einai etsi, mporeite na moy peite, sas parakalw poly, ti qa kanete apo opoia qesh kai an breqeite meta tis ekloges @eite sthn kybernhsh, eite sthn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh- an antimetwpisete to endexomeno ayth h epixeirhsh ekei panw sth Xalkidikh na kleisei, me apotelesma na exete kai problhma anergias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Logikes poy lene, qa kaneis ayto poy qelw egw h qa kleisw, anejarthtws an antikeintai sth logikh kai to nomo, den einai swstes logikes. Ayto qymizei ekbiasmo kai fysika se ekbiasmoys den ypoxwroyme. Ayto prepei na to gnwrizoyn oloi kala. Eimaste anoiktoi se ependyseis, qa proselkysoyme ependyseis. Mporoyme na kanoyme mia megalh syzhthsh me thn koinwnia kai toys foreis ths gia to pws qa mporesoyme na drasoyme kalytera se ayton ton tomea. Qa ``xtyphqoyme'' kai qa anametrhqoyme me th grafeiokratia gia na dieykolynoyme tis ependyseis, me oroys kaqaroys, sto fws ths hmeras, diafanoys ston ellhniko lao.

MIXAHL: Kata thn apoch sas, h sygkekrimenh tropologia, pera apo th meqodeysh ths, epi toy periexomenoy ths bohqa h den bohqa thn ependysh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Egw den qa thn ypegrafa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate, prohgoymenws, oti den htan ths kybernhshs ayth h tropologia@

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto einai safes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh den thn apodexthke, poios thn apodexthke;

PRWTOPAPAS: O yfypoyrgos poy thn apodexthke, apomakrynqhke.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ekproswpos ths kybernhshs den htan;

PRWTOPAPAS: Enhrghse peran twn oriwn twn armodiothtwn toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi boyleytes lene oti ypegracan me th symfwnh gnwmh toy k. Paxta.

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan ena kybernhtiko stelexos ekfeygei, yperbainei ta oria twn armodiothtwn toy, tote payei na einai kybernhtiko stelexos. Ejefyge twn oriwn twn armodiothtwn toy kai gi` ayto toy zhthqhke h paraithsh toy.

Sas eyxaristw poly.


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