Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-01-14

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 14 Ianoyarioy 2004

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Ayth thn wra, paroysiazetai to programma ths Neas Dhmokratias gia thn ygeia. Epomenws, den exoyme th dynatothta, prin to akoysoyme, na to krinoyme. Exw synennohqei me ton ypoyrgo Ygeias K. Stefanh kai ean xreiastei qa doqei kapoia apanthsh.

Qelw na kanw mia dhlwsh, me aformh orismena dhmosieymata, alla kai isxyrismoys stelexwn ths N.D., opws kai allwn politikwn dynamewn, gyrw apo thn epixeirhsh poy exei ginei apo orismenoys na ekfrastoyn, en pash periptwsei, ``problhmatismoi'' kai ``antirrhseis'' gyrw apo thleoptikes kalyceis politikhs drasthriothtas, ayth thn periodo. Eida oti shmera eginan kai nees episkeceis sto ESR ekproswpwn kai allwn politikwn kommatwn. Gi` ayto qelw na kanw mia genikh dhlwsh:

Prepei na antilhfqoyme oti to ayjhmeno endiaferon twn MME, ayth thn periodo, gia thn politikh kai thn politikh drasthriothta twn kommatwn kai twn arxhgwn twn kommatwn, den exei kamia sxesh me epikoinwniaka zhthmata. Prohlqe apo thn poly megalh politikh kinhsh poy egine sthn paratajh mas kai tis epomenes kinhseis toy k. Giwrgoy Papandreoy. Epomenws, yparxei mia ``politikh kataigida'' kai oxi mia ``epikoinwniakh kataigida''. Ayth h epikoinwniakh kalych einai apotokos twn sobarwn politikwn ejelijewn, twn entonwn politikwn ejelijewn kai politikwn prwtoboyliwn poy h paratajh mas analambanei. Ayto prepei na to antilhfqoyn oloi. To na epixeiroyn na ermhneysoyn to neo politiko klima poy dhmioyrgeitai, tis ragdaies politikes ejelijeis poy symbainoyn gyrw mas, me oroys epikoinwniakoys, den mporei na toys prosferei tipota. To mono poy petyxainoyn, telika, einai na trexoyn pisw apo aytes tis ejelijeis.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh diabazoyme mia synenteyjh poy edwse o k. Ntelor, o opoios epanaferei to zhthma twn ypochfiothtwn gia thn Proedria ths Komision kai anamesa se aytes anaferei kai to onoma toy k. Shmith, hqela na rwthsw, ean sto prosfato parelqon yphrje kapoia epafh toy k. Ntelor me ton Prwqypoyrgo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw kati tetoio. Polloi eyrwpaioi politikoi, koryfaioi politikoi, opws o k. Zak Ntelor, erxontai ayth th stigmh kai ekfrazoyn mia idiaitera qetikh apoch gia ton Kwsta Shmith kai thn piqanothta katalhchs kapoias eyrwpaikhs qeshs. Alla den yparxei kati to dedomeno gia na syzhthsoyme ayth th stigmh. Ekeino poy qelw na shmeiwsw einai toyto: Otan erxontai polles eyrwpaikes dynameis, polloi Eyrwpaioi politikoi na omiloyn me toso qetiko tropo gia enan Ellhna politiko kai eidika ton Kwsta Shmith, einai para poly qetiko gia th xwra mas. Deixnei thn anabaqmish ths dieqnoys qeshs ths kai, kata th gnwmh moy, prepei na synanta th qetikh apodoxh olwn twn Ellhnwn.

ZOYLAS: Isxyei h dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti qa protimoyse o idios na parameinei sthn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean me rwtate eyqews, ean o Prwqypoyrgos exei kati ypoch toy gia thn Eyrwph, apantw eyqews ``oxi''. Den yparxei kati na syzhthsoyme ayth th stigmh. Ayto poy shmeiwsa @kai nomizw oti prepei na to shmeiwsoyn me eyxaristhsh oloi oi Ellhnes- einai oti para polloi koryfaioi Eyrwpaioi politikoi, shmera exoyme ton k. Ntelor, eixame kai qa exoyme kai alloys fantazomai, erxontai na tonisoyn oti o Kwstas Shmiths qa htan idiaitera epityxhmenos se mia tetoia qesh eyqynhs. Ayto ti deixnei; Deixnei th qesh ths Elladas, deixnei thn poreia poy akoloyqhsame ayta ta xronia kai thn katajiwsh ths. Deixnei thn empistosynh poy yparxei se olh thn Eyrwph sto proswpo toy Kwsta Shmith. Ayto nomizw oti prepei na briskei symfwnoys oloys toys Ellhnes. Xwris na shmainei, omws, oti yparxei kati tetoio ayth th stigmh. Ayto einai safes. Qelw na to jekaqarisoyme, gia na mhn ejaxqoyn lanqasmena symperasmata.

KARGOYDH: Qelw na rwthsw, ean h metaqesh ths episkechs toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto Parisi, gia mia synanthsh me ton k. Sirak@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yphrje kamia metaqesh@

KARGOYDH: Eixame mia sxetikh plhroforia@

PRWTOPAPAS: Eixate plhrofories, alla oxi apo emas.

MPOTWNHS: Pws sxoliazete ta gegonota kai tis prajeis, giati yparxoyn kataggelies oti ta MAT xtyphsan toys agrotes, sto Aigio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kataggelies mporei na yparxoyn, alla den exw ayth th stigmh mia eidikoterh eikona ths katastashs. Qelw na pw kati se sxesh me oles aytes tis kinhtopoihseis. Pantoy, otan ginetai mia kinhtopoihsh, shmainei oti yparxei ena qema to opoio prepei na antimetwpistei. Ara, to prwto zhthma poy panta endiaferei thn kybernhsh einai na antimetwpizei thn oysia twn qematwn. Ean antimetwpizei thn oysia twn qematwn, sto plaisio poy mporei bebaia, einai safes oti qa yparxei kai megalyterh omalothta. Ara, emas mas endiaferei h oysia twn problhmatwn. Kai sthn oysia rixnoyme to endiaferon mas. Qelw na tonisw, apo ekei kai pera, oti kalo qa einai @giati kinhtopoihseis ginontai kai qa ginontai, einai zhthma zwhs kai energeias ths koinwnias mas kai den prepei na tis qewrei kapoios exqro- oi kinhtopoihseis aytes na frontizoyn oi kinhtopoioymenoi na exoyn thn apodoxh ths eyryterhs koinwnias kai na ejasfalizoyn toys oroys ths symfwnias ths koinwnias gia tis kinhtopoihseis toys. H logikh toy kleisimatos twn dromwn, den einai mia logikh me thn oysia o aplos poliths, o opoios talaipwreitai, qa symfwnhsei. Ypo ayth thn ennoia, emeis qa kanoyme to kaqhkon mas, skybontas sthn oysia twn problhmatwn. Se kaqe periptwsh, kalo einai oi kinhtopoihseis na syndeontai me stash eyqynhs apenanti sthn eyryterh koinwnia.

SIDERHS: Exw dyo erwthseis: H prwth afora diafores aitiaseis se sxesh me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, ean qa parameinei kai an prepei na parameinei sto posto toy. Yparxoyn polloi poy lene oti ayth th stigmh to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn einai akefalo, th stigmh poy yparxei kinhtikothta sta eqnika qemata: kai sto Kypriako kai sta ellhnotoyrkika...

PRWTOPAPAS: To ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn den einai akefalo. Exei ypoyrgo, o opoios parakoloyqei oles tis ejelijeis. Einai xarakthristiko oti th Deytera, poy erxetai sthn Aqhna o Proedros ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Tasos Papadopoylos, sth syzhthsh, h opoia qa einai pragmati oysiastikh, qa parabreqei, peran toy Prwqypoyrgoy, kai o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy.

SIDERHS: Parempiptontws. Exei analabei proeklogiko agwna, einai sebasto@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai ``parempiptontws''. Parakoloyqei olh thn kinhtikothta poy yparxei, ayth th stigmh, kyriws apo toyrkikhs pleyras. Emeis exoyme tis qeseis mas, exoyme anaptyjei poly qetikes prwtoboylies. Exoyme dhmioyrghsei qetikoys sysxetismoys sth dieqnh koinothta kai parakoloyqoyme apo konta tis ejelijeis. Sto plaisio ayto ginetai kai h synanthsh me ton k. Taso Papadopoylo, th Deytera. Bebaiws, apo ekei kai pera, otan o k. Papandreoy eklegei Proedros toy PASOK kai mpoyme ston proeklogiko agwna, to qema allazei kai qa antimetwpistei, se synergasia toy k. Papandreoy me ton Prwqypoyrgo.

SIDERHS: Mia apo tis pleon endiaferoyses protaseis toy eklogikoy nomoy htan h katatmhsh twn megalwn perifereiwn. Ayth h diatajh aposyrqhke. Poios o logos; Dwsate maxh me th N.D. gia na perasete ayto to nomo, toys kataggeilate oti den ton chfizoyn kai eseis, th basikh sas diatajh poy edine ajia se ayto to nomo thn aposyrate. Poios o logos poy thn aposyrate; Poios o logos na chfistei o nomos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn kai alles diatajeis. Apo ekei kai pera, to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, me bash th syzhthsh poy egine sthn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs kai meta apo protaseis boyleytwn toy PASOK, ektimhse oti prepei na akoloyqhsei th sygkekrimenh taktikh kai na syndesei thn ylopoihsh mias tetoias proqeshs me th genikoterh dioikhtikh anadiarqrwsh ths xwras. To ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn ektimhse, meta apo protaseis kai boyleytwn toy PASOK, oti prepei na epanaferei ayth th diatajh se mia allh fash, syndeontas th me th genikoterh dioikhtikh anadiarqrwsh ths xwras. Ws ek toytoy, den paremeine se ayth th fash.

BITALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, htan gnwstes aytes oi aitiaseis twn boyleytwn toy PASOK apo para poly kairo, apo to kalokairi, otan ejaggelqhke ayth h prwtoboylia gia thn allagh toy eklogikoy nomoy. Epishs, eixe teqei sto trapezi to qema ths dioikhtikhs anadiarqrwshs ths xwras. Malista, eixan pei oti ayth qa prohghqei toy eklogikoy nomoy. Telika ti eginan ola ayta;

PRWTOPAPAS: H swsth ekfrash einai yphrjan protaseis twn boyleytwn toy PASOK. Apo ekei kai pera ektimhqhke mesa apo thn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia oti htan kalytero na ginei etsi. Den exw kanena allo sxolio.

BITALHS: Dhladh, eprepe na ftasei paramones chfishs gia na aposyrqei; Oi protaseis aytes den lhfqhkan nwritera ypoch;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayth htan h ektimhsh toy ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn.

BITALHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw sxetika me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn Eyrwph: Exete ypoch sas ean o Prwqypoyrgos meta tis 22 Ianoyarioy qa metabei se kapoia prwteyoysa gia synanthseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Xqes, eixa thn eykairia na synanthqw me ton Prwqypoyrgo, meta thn ekdhlwsh sto KARABEL, alla den exw kapoia enhmerwsh. Eirhsqw en parodw ayrio yparxei synanthsh me thn antiproswpeia ths Bosnias, sto Megaro Majimoy, kai qa akoloyqhsoyn dhlwseis.

BITALHS: Xqes, yphrje shmantikh parembash toy G.G. toy OHE Kofi Anan gia to Kypriako, legontas oti qa prepei kai oi dyo pleyres na desmeytoyn sto sxedio gia sygkekrimenes hmeromhnies diejagwghs twn dhmochfismatwn. Pws krinete ayth th diadikasia poy epixeireitai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kata to parelqon exoyme dexqei protaseis kai xronodiagrammata toy k. Anan. Exoyme symfwnhsei na diapragmateytoyme me bash to sxedio Anan kai me sygkekrimeno xronodiagramma gia na mhn kaqysteroyme. Qelw na sas qymisw oti exoyme dextei tetoies protaseis. Den eimaste emeis oi ypaitioi ths kwlysiergias. Einai h toyrkikh kai h toyrkokypriakh pleyra. Qelw na to tonisw ayto.

POYLIDOY: Sth ``SAMPAX'' grafthke proxtes oti eimaste enocei mias symfwnias sta ellhnotoyrkika, idiaitera sto qema ths yfalokrhpidas kai oti ypoleipontai kapoies texnikes leptomereies. Eiste enhmeros gia mia tetoia ejelijh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo th synennohsh moy me to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn den prokyptei kati tetoio. Sas qymizw oti kai prin apo kapoies hmeres kykloforhsan fhmes poy den eixan sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Bebaiws, proxwra h diadikasia synennohshs se yphresiako epipedo, ginontai oi sxetikes syzhthseis, alla den yparxei kati poy na peiqei oti ayth th stigmh briskomaste mprosta se symfwnia. Den prokyptei apo poyqena. Olo ayto ton kairo qa yparxei mia kinhtikothta sthn toyrkikh pleyra, h opoia qa einai polymorfh. Qa exei na kanei me zhthmata entypwsewn gyrw apo to Kypriako, alla den eimaste sigoyroi kata poson ayth h kinhtikothta qa exei parembaseis oysias. Qa yparxei mia seira kinhsewn, anaforwn, dhmosieymatwn gyrw apo to Kypriako. Qa yparxei mia seira kinhsewn sthn Eyrwph. Exw thn entypwsh oti h Toyrkia epixeirei na beltiwsei thn arnhtikh qesh ths sth dieqnh koinothta kai na dhmioyrghsei kalyteroys oroys gia thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths. Ekeino poy toys leme emeis einai oti den exoyme kamia antirrhsh gia thn eyrwpaikh poreia. Gia na mporesoyn, omws, na exoyn eyrwpaikh poreia prepei na paroyn pragmatikes prwtoboylies symfwna me tis qeseis ths dieqnoys koinothtas. Gia paradeigma sto Kypriako, h kinhtikothta den arkei.

ZOYLAS: Epeidh egine polys logos, teleytaiws, gia tis dhmoskophseis qa hqela mia epishmh qesh ths kybernhshs se mia sygkekrimenh apanthsh poy qelei toys Ellhnes polites se syntriptikh pleiochfia na epizhtoyn thn plhrh allagh ths kybernhtikhs politikhs se oloys toys meizones tomeis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan anoigontai kapoies nees prooptikes, otan milame kai gia toys symbolismoys poy eixe h kinhsh toy Kwsta Shmith, gia to kleisimo mias epoxhs, gia mia nea selida, gia to kleisimo, isws, kai toy teleytaioy kykloy ths metapoliteyshs einai logiko na qewroyme oti ayth h nea selida, h nea epoxh qa prepei na syndeqei me nees prwtoboylies, me nees parembaseis kai yperbaseis se orismenoys tomeis ths politikhs. Otan ayto dinetai ws stigma apo thn idia thn paratajh mas, tote einai logiko na ayjanontai oi prosdokies toy ellhnikoy laoy apo thn paratajh mas, apo aytes tis prwtoboylies mas. Oi prwtoboylies aytes prodiagrafhkan, xqes, apo thn omilia toy k. Papandreoy kai na eiste bebaioi oti qa ejelixtoyn poly syntoma, me thn ejaggelia toy programmatos toy PASOK. O k. Papandreoy exei dieykrinisei oti exei proqesh na antapokriqei se aytes tis prosdokies, na kanei tis yperbaseis, na ekmetalleytei to qetiko dromo poy anoije h prwtoboylia toy Kwsta Shmith, na prosferei gia th dhmioyrgia ths neas epoxhs, gia thn Ellada. Kanei dialogo me toys foreis, me toys polites, akoyme parathrhseis kai parembaseis kai o idios sth synexeia qa erqei na prodiagracei tis apanthseis poy qa dwsoyn to stigma mas. Qewroyme apolytws logiko na ekfrazetai ayth h qesh apo ton ellhniko lao.

Sas eyxaristw.

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