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Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-01-12

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 12 Ianoyarioy 2004

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Prin apo ligo, egkainiase th nea shragga twn Tempwn.

Ayrio, stis 10.30, qa milhsei, mazi me toys G. Papandreoy kai M. Xrysoxoidh, pros toys ypochfioys toy PASOK, sto Karabel.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synergasia me toys ypoyrgoys Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn N. Xristodoylakh kai Metaforwn N. Berelh. Stis 11 to prwi, qa exei syskech gia thn proetoimasia ths episkechs toy sthn Krhth. Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa synanthqei me toys G. Papandreoy kai M. Xrysoxoidh.

Thn Pempth, stis 11 to prwi, qa proedreysei toy KYSEA, to opoio qa pragmatopoihqei sto Megaro Majimoy. To apogeyma, qa anaxwrhsei gia thn Krhth, apo opoy qa epistrecei thn Paraskeyh to meshmeri.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, qa hqela na kanw mia dhlwsh gia to logo toy k. Karamanlh pros toys boyleytes toy, shmera: Einai safes oti o k. Karamanlhs prospaqei na brei ena neo epikoinwniako logo, piesmenos apo tis ejelijeis kai gi` ayto proxwrei se ewles kai genikologes yposxeseis. Omws, den allazei. Paramenei panta aixmalwtos toy kataggeltikoy kai mhdenistikoy logoy toy. Gi` ayto kai den peiqei.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

SIDERHS: O k. Papandreoy exei yposxeqei diafaneia sth dhmosia zwh. Na ypoqesoyme oti se ayto to plaisio diafaneias entassetai kai to gegonos oti apekryce thn epistolh Miler poy zhta strateymata sto Irak; Giati den exei anakoinwqei tipota.

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Papandreoy exei apanthsei ston k. Miler oti den yparxei tetoia periptwsh. Kai apo xqes yparxei kai h apanthsh toy k. Mpeglith.

SIDERHS: Afoy dhmosieythke sthn efhmerida ``Makedonia''.

PRWTOPAPAS: Afoy exei apanthsei arnhtika, poio einai to problhma; Sas endiaferei h oysia h oxi; Apo th stigmh poy sas endiaferei h oysia, sas lew oti exei apanthsei arnhtika. Den yparxei kanena qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis edw kathgoroysate th N.D. na parei qesh gia ta idiwtika panepisthmia. Twra ti exete na peite me thn protash toy k. Papandreoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa na parei qesh h N.D. gia ta KES kai thn parembash toy k. Xatzhdakh. Einai teleiws diaforetiko to ena apo to allo. Qelw na qymisw oti o k. Papandreoy, opws kai alla stelexh toy PASOK, edw kai poly kairo exei proteinei na skeftoyme to qema ths idryshs mh kratikwn, alla kai mh kerdoskopikwn panepisthmiwn, mesa sto genikotero pneyma toy Syntagmatos. Ayth einai mia palia protash toy, sthn opoia anaferqhke kai twra kai an efarmozotan qa odhgoyse kai se plhrh apajiwsh kai antimetwpish toy problhmatos poy exei anakycei me ta Kentra Eleyqerwn Spoydwn. Oxi mono den eynoei ayto poy proteine h N.D., alla to antiqeto. Mesa apo th dynatothta idryshs mh kerdoskopikwn, mh kratikwn panepisthmiwn, antimetwpizeis kai tis opoies yparktes anagkes yparxoyn sthn agora ergasias kai periorizeis h apokleieis ton opoiodhpote xwro poy qeloyn na katalaboyn ta KES.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ola ayta ta KES ekproswpoyn jena panepisthmia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parakalw na prosejete thn protash toy k. Papandreoy, giati einai idiaitera shmantikh. Omilei gia idrysh mh kratikwn, mh kerdoskopikwn panepisthmiwn. To kanw safes. Otan leme ``mh kerdoskopiko'' ti ennooyme; Oti qa mporei ena idryma, enas organismos, enas foreas, na idrysei ena AEI h ena TEI mh kerdoskopikoy xarakthra gia na diadramatisei ena shmantiko rolo kai na prosferei eykairies. Gia paradeigma, qa mporoyse enas foreas, eite ergodotikos, eite foreas Topikhs Aytodioikhshs, eite koinwnikos, eite otidhpote allo, na ftiajei ena TEI h AEI h mia sxolh, h opoia na dinei prosqeth morfwsh kai ekpaideysh kai na katartizei panw se sygkekrimenes anagkes, poy exei o idios diapistwsei. Den qa einai kratiko, alla qa elegxetai apo to kratos kai bebaiws, se kamia periptwsh, den qa einai kerdoskopiko. Den prokeitai gia epixeirhsh. Gia paradeigma, h Ekklhsia h enas megalos ergodotikos foreas h ena epimelhthrio h enas foreas Topikhs Aytodioikhshs, opws h KEDKE h h TEKNDA, an diapistwnan anagkh gia th dhmioyrgia mias sxolhs, qa eprepe na pistopoihqoyn, na yphrxan sygkekrimenes prodiagrafes, na yparjei elegxos toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias k.t.l. Gi` ayto to plaisio mila. Den exei kamia sxesh ayto to plaisio me ta KES.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia mh kerdoskopikoy xarakthra panepisthmia eixe ginei h protash sto Syntagma apo th N.D. kai thn aperrice h pleiochfia toy PASOK. Thn eixe katachfisei kai o k. Papandreoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti h protash ayth eixe apasxolhsei to ypoyrgiko symboylio. Apo ton k. Papandreoy, opws kai apo alla stelexh, eixan akoystei tetoies protaseis. Tote, yphrje mia katalhjh poy diatypwqhke sto Syntagma. Den einai lanqasmeno na synexizetai aytos o problhmatismos. Otan kapoia pragmata me to xrono wrimazoyn kai ginontai eyrytera apodekta, apo th stigmh poy yphrxe ayth h protash kai h syllogistikh @gnwrizete oti einai palia protash toy k. Papandreoy- kai ystera apo th syzhthsh poy anaptyssetai kai th diapistwsh twn opoiwn problhmatwn mporei na yparxoyn, tote dhmioyrgoyntai oi synqhkes, wste ayth h protash na mporei na pragmatopoihqei. To qewrw deigma wrimothtas ths koinwnias na syzhtas shmera tetoies protaseis, tis opoies prin apo pente h deka xronia den mporoyses na syzhthseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Symfwneite, dhladh, gia ta idiwtika panepisthmia twra.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporw na sas pw oti tote, sto ypoyrgiko symboylio, eixa parei analogh qesh, alla ayto den exei ajia. Ajia exei oti tetoia qemata wrimazoyn me ton kairo. Miloyme, bebaia, gia mh kerdoskopika panepisthmia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai h N.D. tote sto Syntagma, gia mh kerdoskopika elege, alla den to dexthkate. Aporricate thn protash.

PRWTOPAPAS: Meta mplexthke me ta KES h N.D., o k Xatzhdakhs@

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poios dinei adeia sta KES; Ti einai ta KES;

PRWTOPAPAS: H N.D. mperdeythke se ena qema epixeirhsewn kerdoskopikoy xarakthra. Den exei kamia sxesh to ena me to allo. Ean h N.D. apokhryssei tis kinhseis poy kalypte mexri protinos, den exw kanena logo na amfibalw.

KOYIN: Gnwrizete poio einai to qema toy KYSEA;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai h epilogh h paramonh arxhgwn twn Epiteleiwn. Meta th synedriash toy KYSEA qa ginoyn analytikes anakoinwseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh teleiwnete@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den teleiwnoyme. To poios teleiwnei, qa exete thn eykairia na to diapistwsete stis ekloges. Den xreiazetai na antidikhsoyme twra.

GEROPOYLOS: Telika h kybernhsh sto qema ths idryshs mh kratikwn, mh kerdoskopikwn panepisthmiwn, diafwnei h symfwnei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayth th stigmh, briskomaste sth diamorfwsh twn proeklogikwn programmatwn twn kommatwn. Den einai dynato to proeklogiko programma toy PASOK na apotelei mono eyqygrammh synexeia toy mexri twra kybernhtikoy ergoy. Einai safes oti qa yparjoyn kai nea pragmata. Bebaiws, oloi ajiologoyme ws idiaitera qetiko to kybernhtiko ergo ths 10etias. Allaje thn Ellada kai ths edwse mia nea morfh. To proeklogiko, omws, programma toy PASOK prepei na apanthsei se nea problhmata kai nees prosdokies. Prepei na periexei nea pragmata kai yperbaseis se orismenoys tomeis, symfwna me tis prosdokies kai tis anagkes poy exei h xwra kai o ellhnikos laos. Qa anaptyxqoyn nees protaseis. Giati ayto mas kanei entypwsh; Einai qetiko kai pisteyw oti etsi qa employtistei kai o proeklogikos dialogos.

PITTARAS: O k. Papandreoy giati den synodeyei ton k. Shmith sthn Krhth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Giati etsi exei symfwnhqei metajy twn dyo.

PITTARAS: Den dhmioyrgei problhma to gegonos oti thn idia xronikh periodo pragmatopoioyntai dyo periodeies;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kanena problhma, afoy symfwnhqhke metajy twn dyo. Egine syzhthsh metajy twn dyo, poy eixe, akribws, ayto to stoxo: Na symfwnhqoyn orismena pragmata gyrw apo to programma kai tis emfaniseis. Symfwnhqhke ayth h formoyla poy gnwrizete. Den blepw kanena problhma. Ejalloy, kai oi dyo qa milhsoyn pros toys ypochfioys ayrio. Den mporw na jerw ti proeklogikes sygkentrwseis qa kanei to PASOK kai poy. Ayto qa to epilejei to PASOK.

KOYNTATOY: Shmerino dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas ``Eleyqerotypia'' anaferei oti o amerikanikos stratos sxediazei na pragmatopoihsei askhseis, edw, to Martio, enocei twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Isxyei kati tetoio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayth thn wra dinei synenteyjh o k. Flwridhs. Qa protimoysa, epeidh den exei oloklhrwqei h synenteyjh, na anaferqoyme allh fora.

KOYNTATOY: Kai oson afora kai to qema ths antisyntagmatikothtas, o k. Flwridhs qa apanthsei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo th stigmh poy den eixe oloklhrwqei h synenteyjh toy k. Flwridh, thn opoia prepei na maqw, qa hqela na parapemcw se ayth. Fantazomai qa exei ginei to erwthma, kai an xreiastei qa parembw. Apo apoch deontologias, na oloklhrwqei h synenteyjh toy armodioy ypoyrgoy, giati mporei na eipwqei kati ekei, to opoio twra den to jeroyme.

GIANNISHS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti den einai dynaton to proeklogiko programma toy PASOK na apotelei eyqygrammh synexeia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ypo thn ennoia ths aplhs epektashs. Qa exei kai nea pragmata.

GIANNISHS: O,ti protaqei apo ton k. Papandreoy, pleon, na ypoqesoyme;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Papandreoy, analambanontas ws Proedros toy PASOK, qa ekdhlwsei kai tis sxetikes prwtoboylies toy kai ayto einai apolyta fysiologiko. Ejalloy, opws gnwrizete, yparxei programmatismeno Synedrio gia to programma, stis 6 Febroyarioy. Qa egkriqei ena sygkekrimeno programma me to opoio qa pame stis ekloges. To programma ayto, me to opoio qa pame stis ekloges @kai xwris na mporw na mpw se leptomereies, ayth th stigmh, dioti einai qema Synedrioy- einai eynohto oti qa periexei kai nees protaseis. Einai eynohto oti qa anaferetai kai se nea pragmata. Einai eynohto oti qa antapokrinetai kai stis nees anagkes. Den einai h prwth fora poy ginetai ayto. Kai to prohgoymeno programma toy PASOK, opws jerete, perieixe mia seira apo nees kinhseis. Eidikotera malista, otan oi proklhseis ths shmerinhs epoxhs apaitoyn kai nea pragmata kai nees protaseis kai yperbaseis se mia seira zhthmata.

KOYIN: Qa erqei o k. Tasos Papadopoylos th Deytera;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nai, th Deytera, 19 toy mhnos.

KOGKO: Giati erxetai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prokeitai gia episkech ergasias. Qa ginoyn syzhthseis me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai ton k. Papandreoy, me thn idiothta toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn. Einai eynohto oti xreiazetai enas syntonismos ellhnikhs kai kypriakhs pleyras enocei kai ths kinhtikothtas poy yparxei se ayta ta qemata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela ena sxolio ws ypoyrgos Typoy ths fasistikhs epixeirhshs fimwshs toy kanalioy 10.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epikoinwnhse mazi moy o k. Tragkas kai moy eqese ypoch tis apoceis toy, tis opoies ejalloy diabasa kai shmera sthn efhmerida. Exoyme zhthsei apo thn ERT na mas dwsei mia enhmerwsh gyrw apo ayta ta zhthmata kai na breqei kapoia lysh. O k. Stagkos, bebaiws, me th seira toy, exei diatypwsei kapoies protaseis. Qelw na pisteyw oti h opoia anazhthsh lyshs qa odhghsei se ena qetiko apotelesma. Den eimai se qesh, ayth th stigmh, dioti ``trexoyn'' ta pragmata, na pw poio qa einai ayto. Emeis qeloyme na breqei mia lysh, wste na mporei kai o staqmos ston opoio emfanizetai o k. Tragkas -einai dieyqynths- kai h ERT, na kanoyn th doyleia toys. Ayth h xrysh tomh, nomizw oti qa breqei. Einai proqesh na breqei kai nomizw oti mporei na breqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kanate ereyna gi` ayto poy kykloforhse, poy leei oti h entolh ekporeyetai apo ton k. Papandreoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kathgorhmatika lew oti den yparxei kamia tetoia periptwsh. Sas to jekaqarizw apolyta, me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo. Ayto den exei kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Exw zhthsei enhmerwsh apo thn ERT kai qelw na pisteyw oti qa mporesoyme na broyme mia lysh, sto plaisio ths nomimothtas, wste na mporoyn oloi na kanoyn th doyleia toys.

Sas eyxaristw.


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