Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-12-02

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 2 Dekembrioy 2003

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Eisagwgikws, na sas enhmerwsw oti exoyme kalesei oloys toys foreis poy emplekontai sto qema twn metrhsewn kai dhmoskophsewn, me bash sygkekrimeno plaisio kai stis 13.30 qa exoyme ton prwto gyro dialogoy, sto Zappeio. Protimhsame na kanoyme dialogo me oloys toys foreis mazi, wste na yparjei zymwsh olwn twn apocewn.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

ANTYPAS: Einai anoikth gia emas h diadikasia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw antirrhsh. Den exoyme tipota na krycoyme. Dialogos einai.

GIANNISHS: Qewreite ikanopoihtikh thn apanthsh toy k. Roysopoyloy sto qema ths tropologias Xatzhdakh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Einai safes oti h N.D. sthn oysia den pairnei qesh. Synexizei na xrhsimopoiei dyo glwsses. Synexizei na akoloyqei dyo taktikes: ``Kai me to lhsth kai me to xwrofylaka''. Pisw apo ayth thn istoria, fainetai kaqara poia einai h politikh ths. H politikh ths apoblepei eyqews sthn ejyphrethsh megalwn idiwtikwn symferontwn kai sthn apodynamwsh ths dhmosias Paideias. Fobatai na to pei. Isws yparxoyn kai antidraseis -apo o,ti diabazoyme- sto eswteriko ths. Se kaqe periptwsh, einai prwtofanes ena komma poy diakhryssei oti qelei na kybernhsei th xwra na mhn mporei na parei qesh se ena toso sobaro zhthma.

MIXAHL: Ypoqetw oti o k. Eyqymioy gnwrizei th qesh ths N.D., oxi toso tis anakoinwseis, oso, isws, apo thn kat` idian synanthsh poy eixe, episkeptomenos ton k. Soyflia. Etsi den einai;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Eyqymioy episkefqhke ton k. Soyflia sto nosokomeio.

MIXAHL: O k. Soyflias, dhladh, ekei den qa toy eipe th qesh ths N.D.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sthn entatikh;

MIXAHL: Giati, den qa mporoyse na thn pei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mh sygxeoyme mia episkech abrofrosynhs me enan politiko dialogo.

MIXAHL: Xqes, eide to fws ths dhmosiothtas mia dhmoskophsh poy afora to pws blepoyn oi opadoi ths N.D. thn prosxwrhsh toy k. Samara kai allwn, alla yparxei kai ena skelos poy afora thn kybernhsh kai to PASOK. To 73% leei oti o k. Laliwths einai aparaithtos ston proeklogiko agwna. Exete kanena sxolio ep` aytoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme pei polles fores ews twra oti exoyme apeyqynei prosklhsh pros oloys kai einai sto xeri toys na thn ajiopoihsoyn; Diafwnei kaneis ep` aytoy, dhladh oti o k. Laliwths, ean to epiqymei@

KALARITHS: Me dedomeno oti kalws h kakws h Ellada brisketai se antiqesh me ta isxyonta kai me tis proqeseis ths E.E., oson afora thn Paideia, exei skeftei h kybernhsh na proteinei h idia@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kamia antiqesh me thn E.E.. Den yparxei kamia odhgia apo thn E.E.. Apo poy bgazete to symperasma oti briskomaste se antiqesh me thn E.E.;

KALARITHS: Lew, me o,ti fainetai.

PRWTOPAPAS: Biazeste. Epeidh -opws gnwrizete- ayto prepei na perasei apo to Tmhma toy Eyrwkoinoboylioy, na paei sthn Olomeleia, sto Symboylio Ypoyrgwn kai akoloyqws sthn Komision, den einai dioloy ``dedomeno''.

KALARITHS: Kalws. Me dedomeno oti ayto einai ena piqano senario ejelijhs kai epeidh h kybernhsh prepei na ta lambanei ola ypoch ths, exei skeftei to endexomeno na parei h idia mia prwtoboylia gia ryqmistiko plaisio, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei endexomenh tetoia katastash;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai para poly nwris. Ayth th stigmh prepei na jekaqarisoyme, kat` arxas, emeis ti qeloyme. Emeis gnwrizoyme ti qeloyme kai to diakhryssoyme ws kybernhsh kai ws PASOK. H N.D. -poy einai ena megalo komma kai exei thn eyqynh ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs kai ypotiqetai oti enocei eklogwn exei bgalei kai to programma ths gia thn Paideia- mporei na mas pei ti leei, sxetika me ayth thn istoria; Dioti o k. Roysopoylos topoqethqhke, xqes, peri diagrammatwn kai sthn oysia antimetwpizei thn prwtoboylia Xatzhdakh ws mh yparxoysa. Qa milhsoyme kapote eilikrina h qa ejyphretoyme symferonta, kryptomenoi pisw apo to daktylo mas; Ayto kanei twra h N.D.. Dyo glwsses: ``Kai me to lhsth kai me to xwrofylaka''.

KATSIKAS: Qewreite oti o Giwrgos Papandreoy ejyphretei ta symferonta twn idiwtikwn ekpaideythriwn; Giati sto parelqon me arqro toy eixe epishmanei toys kindynoys gia ta KES. Qelw na moy peite ti exei kanei h kybernhsh apo to 1998 mexri shmera gia na mh fqasoyme se ayto to shmeio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exete diabasei kala tis dhlwseis toy, giati, ean tis eixate diabasei -opws kai tis dhlwseis allwn stelexwn mas- qa blepate oti h syzhthsh eixe ginei gia thn idrysh Panepisthmiwn kai oxi gia ta KES. Sto plaisio anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos anaptyxqhkan oles oi apoceis. Qa mporoyse kaneis na ekfrasei tis diafwnies h tis symfwnies toy. Htan qemito, na yparxoyn polles apoceis, enocei ths anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos. Yphrxan oysiastika dyo apoceis kai apo ta dyo megala kommata. Mia apoch htan oti eprepe na yparxoyn mono ta dhmosia panepisthmia kai mia deyterh -poy eixe ekfrastei kai sta dyo megala kommata, toylaxiston- htan na yparxoyn kai idiwtika mh kerdoskopika panepisthmia, egkatesthmena sthn Ellada, oxi KES. Perase h prwth apoch kai chfisthke sto Syntagma. Einai allo na kaneis mia syzhthsh gia ena arqro toy Syntagmatos -poy einai apolytws qemito- kai allo, doqentos toy Syntagmatos, na mhn topoqeteisai, oson afora ta KES. Thn topoqethsh toy k. Soyflia, sto programma ths N.D., mporei kapoios na thn katakrinei. Omws, einai mia antilhch oloklhrwmenh, h opoia leei oti, ean to Syntagma to epitrecei sto mellon, qa antimetwpisoyme thn periptwsh idryshs idiwtikwn, mh kerdoskopikwn panepisthmiwn sthn Ellada, me pistopoihsh panepisthmioy. Den anaferei tipota gia ta KES. Yparxei terastia diafora. Allo einai to pistopoihmeno Panepisthmio kai allo to KES, poy apo thn pisw porta kai xwris ajia, epixeirei na dwsei ptyxio. Den einai to idio ena idiwtiko mh kerdoskopiko panepisthmio kai to idio ena KES. Mh syzhtame gia anomoia pragmata.

KATSIKAS: O k. Papandreoy exei anaferqei sygkekrimena sta KES kai exei epishmanei ton kindyno anagnwrishs toys apo to Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio, kati poy epikaleitai twra o k. Eyqymioy.

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Papandreoy eixe kanei prin apo thn chfish toy Syntagmatos, tote poy oloi ekanan protaseis, mia oloklhrwmenh protash, h opoia htan enantion twn KES. Dioti, ean qymaste, den yphrxe tote qema kommatikhs peiqarxeias. Kai apo ta dyo megala kommata eixe anaptyxqei mia seira protasewn gia ta Panepisthmia, to asymbibasto k.a. Polloi sto PASOK kai sth N.D. eixan syzhthsei aytes tis protaseis.

KATSIKAS: Profanws, o k. Papandreoy otan ekane aytes tis protaseis den ejyphretoyse kapoia symferonta.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai allo ayto poy htan mia ygihs syzhthsh kai allo na erxesai twra @poy apagoreyei to Syntagma ta idiwtika panepisthmia- gia na metatreceis apo thn pisw porta, ejyphretwntas symferonta, ta eleyqera ayta kentra se idiwtika panepisthmia, xwris pistopoihsh, xwris na problepontai apo to Syntagma kai xwris yparjh elegxoy. Dhladh, ti kanoyme; Tinazoyme ta dhmosia TEI kai AEI ston aera kai kanoyme pws den to katalabainoyme;

SIDERHS: Den qewreite aitiologhmenh th shmerinh dhlwsh toy armodioy tomearxh ths N.D. k. Kaloy, o opoios eipe oti o k. Xatzhdakhs efere ayto to qema sthn E.E., prokeimenoy na anagkastei na parei mia eniaia apofash gia ola ta krath-melh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Poly prwtotyph h dikaiologia gia na dikaiologhsei ta adikaiologhta.

SIDERHS: Exei mia kapoia bash.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kamia bash. Prospaqei na dikaiologhsei ta adikaiologhta o k. Kalos, alla den ginetai. Prepei na epilejei, telika, me poion einai. Kai en pash periptwsei ton parapempw kai stis apanthseis poy phre apo toys prytaneis.

KARGOYDH: Xqes, kataqesate mia tropologia me thn opoia pagwnoyn ta prostima se osoys polites exoyn katapathsei dasikes ektaseis. Exoyn, hdh, arxisei oi epikriseis gi` ayth thn parembash sas, eite oti chfoqhreite, eite oti einai mia parembash sas antioikologikoy xarakthra. Ta dika sas kinhtra gia na ypobalete ayth thn tropologia htan poia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei apanthsei analytika o k. Drys. To qema syzhteitai hdh sth Boylh. Den exw na tonisw kati diaforetiko apo ayta poy eipe o k. Drys.

KALARITHS: Den tiqetai, omws, politiko qema otan proeklogika anaballetai ep` aoriston h katabolh prostimwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Drys exei topoqethqei ep` aytoy. Otan sth Boylh ejelissetai mia syzhthsh, panta parapempoyme se ayth.

Sas eyxaristw.

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