Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-11-07

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 7 Noembrioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Qa sas dianemhqei h apanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn epistolh ths k. Papazwh. Epishs, sas exei dianemhqei h omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis Serres.

Qelw na kanw mia eisagwgikh parathrhsh, se sxesh me th xqesinh omilia toy Arxhgoy ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs Kwsta Karamanlh. Den qa apanthsw sta zhthmata poy qigei gia thn kybernhtikh politikh, giati ta exei pei para polles fores kai exei labei tis apanthseis poy prepei. Yparxei kai h xqesinh apanthsh toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Nikoy Xristodoylakh epi ths oysias stis aitiaseis toy k. Karamanlh. Prospaqhsa, omws, na dw idiaiterws to programmatiko meros ths N.D., ekei poy anaferetai stis piqanes qeseis h desmeyseis ths gia to ayrio. Omologw oti dyskoleythka arketa, giati brhka polles aoristies kai genikoy xarakthra ekfraseis. Epibebaiwnetai, gia mia akomh fora, h epishmansh mas gia yparjh "kryfoy programmatos" ths N.D.. Qa elega, omws, oti mporoyme kai apo ayth thn omilia toy k. Karamanlh na diatypwsoyme pente erwthmata:

-Prwton, gia poies pragmatikes apokratikopoihseis omilei o k. Karamanlhs; Ti shmainei h sxetikh anafora sto logo toy; Poioys foreis ennoei; Mporei na mas pei sygkekrimena; Ti moira epifylassei stoys ergazomenoys stoys foreis aytoys; Qa epanalabei ta katadikasmena peiramata, typoy OTE, toy 1993;

-Deyteron, omilei kai pali gia epanidrysh toy kratoys kai gia ajiokratia. Pws symbibazetai h ajiokratia me thn emmonh sthn katarghsh toy ASEP; Qa einai oi neoi mas pali omhroi se grafeia politikwn; Epifylassei thn katarghsh twn megalwn bhmatwn poy eginan ston tomea ths ajiokratias kai ths diafaneias, oson afora thn eisodo enos neoy anqrwpoy sto Dhmosio;

-Triton, ti qa kanei me to Asfalistiko; Perimenoyme apanthsh. Qelei na janagyrisoyme sto nomo Sioyfa; Qelei na katarghsei -opws leei sto programma toy- th shmerinh asfalistikh metarryqmish; Proteinei thn epistrofh sto nomo poy eixe katartisei h N.D. to 1992; Ayth einai h qesh toys sto Asfalistiko;

-Tetarton, omilei gia metra sxetika me thn Apasxolhsh. Poia einai epiteloys; Pws, kata th gnwmh toy, qa tonwqei h Apasxolhsh me alles politikes, peran aytwn poy ylopoiei shmera h kybernhsh; Anaferetai orismenes fores se montela allwn xwrwn. Alla, ta montela ekeinwn twn xwrwn, gia paradeigma, perilambanoyn plhrh apeleyqerwsh twn apolysewn. Epifylassei kati tetoio gia ton Ellhna ergazomeno; Proteinei thn katarghsh nomwn, oi opoioi prostateyoyn toys ergazomenoys me elastikes morfes apasxolhshs, opws isxyei stis xwres aytes; Epifylassei gia ton Ellhna ergath tetoia dedomena;

-Pempton, pws symbibazetai h dhqen ejaggelia toy gia dikaiosynh sto Forologiko me thn epanalhch ths qeshs peri katarghshs toy SDOE; Pws h katarghsh enos elegktikoy swmatos -kai h emmonh se ayth th qesh- para tis peri toy antiqetoy qeseis toy k. Soyflia, mporei na peisei ton polith, oti pragmatika to komma ayto, opws isxyrizetai, qelei ena dikaio forologiko systhma; H frash "dikaio forologiko systhma" kai to "kleisimo toy matioy", mesw ths ejaggelias gia thn katarghsh toy SDOE, sthn paranomia kai thn asydosia, den symbibazontai.

Sta pente ayta erwthmata, ta opoia qetoyme dhmosia, shmera, pros ton k. Karamanlh, einai fysiko oti perimenoyme apanthseis. Ean h N.D. gia mia akomh fora kryftei, einai safes oti qa feroyme ayta ta politika erwthmata ston ellhniko lao.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

ANTYPAS: Me poion tropo qa ta ferete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ws erwthmata kai oxi me ekloges. Na to jekaqarisoyme, gia na mhn exete tetoia problhmata. Qa qesoyme ta erwthmata ston ellhniko lao, kata th diarkeia twn eklogwn ths anoijhs, bebaiws.

SIDERHS: Dikaioymai na ypoqesw oti o k. Shmiths dysaresthqhke apo thn epistolh ths k. Papazwh. Leei, "den mas briskei kat` anagkh symfwnoys@". Me dedomeno oti h k. Papazwh milhse gia "xtyphmata katw apo th mesh", gia to spiti poy eixe kataskeyasei@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eimaste symfwnoi.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti kai h k. Papazwh, meta kai apo alloys polloys boyleytes toy PASOK, arnoyntai na einai ypochfioi, th stigmh poy to Kinhma toys exei kalesei se systrateysh kai blepoyme na egkataleipoyn ayth thn prospaqeia; Boyleytes epi seira etwn, arxhs genomenhs apo ton Aleko Papadopoylo kai blepoyme synexws ton katalogo ayto na makrainei.

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Papadopoylos einai parwn sthn eklogikh maxh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den qa einai ypochfios boyleyths kai malista se mia eklogikh perifereia poy to PASOK exei anagkh thn paroysia toy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqe boyleyths mas exei dikaiwma na epilejei ton tropo ths prosforas toy. Toso o k. Papadopoylos, oso kai polloi alloi syntrofoi, einai parontes sthn eklogikh maxh. Kai oxi mono einai parontes, alla einai parontes sthn prwth grammh. Paleyoyn, prospaqoyn, anaptyssoyn tis apoceis mas, maxontai kai malista kata ton pio safh kai kaqaro tropo. Kaqenas epilegei -kai ofeiloyme na sebomaste thn atomikothta, thn ajioprepeia, thn epilogh toy- me poio tropo qa kataqesei thn prosfora toy. Den mporoyme na cejoyme kapoion, o opoios kataqetei energa thn prosfora toy sthn prwth grammh ths maxhs. Yparxoyn alloi synadelfoi, kaq` ola ajioi, entimoi kai ikanoi, olwn twn kommatwn, poy protimoyn thn epaggelmatikh kariera toys, meta apo th sxetikh problech toy Syntagmatos. Qa toys kathgorhsoyme gi` ayto; Einai dynato na kathgorhsei kaneis, epi paradeigmati, ton k. Alejandro Lykoyrezo, ena poly ajio synadelfo kai boyleyth, dioti protimhse th nomikh episthmh kai thn askhsh toy epaggelmatos toy; Oxi, bebaiws. Ayto den shmainei oti den maxetai gia tis idees toy kai den yperaspizetai to komma toy. To idio qa kanoyn piqanon kai kapoioi apo to PASOK. Den mporei na toys kathgorhsei kaneis.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Yparxei mia antifash. Yparxei mia prosklhsh gia systrateysh, gia agwna enocei ths eklogikhs anametrhshs. Kai blepoyme stelexh na egkataleipoyn@

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas apanthsa. Anaferqhkate ston k. Papadopoylo, gia ton opoio sas eipa oti brisketai sthn prwth grammh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Eipa oti makrainei enas katalogos boyleytwn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Mh syndeete anomoies periptwseis, dioti o k. Papadopoylos einai kentriko proswpo sthn eklogikh strathgikh mas. Einai allh ayth h periptwsh, einai allh h periptwsh enos synadelfoy poy einai poly megalos se hlikia kai exei koyrastei kai einai allh h periptwsh enos synadelfoy poy exei diafwnies kai den katerxetai stis ekloges. Den einai oles oi periptwseis idies.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den syndew tis periptwseis. H periptwsh toy k. Laliwth se poia kathgoria einai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia thn periptwsh toy, exei milhsei o idios o k. Laliwths.

IWANNOY: Anaferomaste stoys boyleytes poy kataggelloyn tis politikes toy PASOK kai apoxwroyn, den anaferomaste sto epaggelmatiko asymbibasto. Einai 11 kai oi perissoteroi exoyn afhsei aixmes. Gi@ ayto qeloyme to sxolio sas, an sas problhmatizei h an sas anhsyxei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eida tetoio pragma. Eidate, gia paradeigma, kamia kataggelia apo ton k. Sfyrioy;

IWANNOY: Oxi, omws, akoysa apo ton k. Mpeno, thn ka Papazwh, ton k. Katsaneba...

PRWTOPAPAS: An paroyme mia-mia tis periptwseis, qa doyme oti oi perissoteroi exoyn diaforetikoys logoys. Einai fysiologikes apoxwrhseis, oi opoies ginontai, kata kairoys, gia diaforoys logoys. Anefera mia periptwsh apo th N.D., mporoyme na broyme kai deyterh kai trith, den toys kathgorei kanenas gi@ ayto. Kai thn prohgoymenh fora, yphrjan synadelfoi apo to PASOK poy den katebhkan ypochfioi. Dhladh, enas anqrwpos poy einai 90 etwn prepei na katebei, gia na mhn poyme oti makrainei o katalogos;

IWANNOY: Profanws, den anaferomaste se aytes tis periptwseis, alla ...

PRWTOPAPAS: Anafereste, omws. Moy eipate gia ton k. Papadopoylo, o opoios einai kentriko proswpo sthn eklogikh strathgikh mas.

XRISTAKOS: Gnwrizw oti to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn den exei milhsei akoma gia toys aerodiadromoys. Qa hqela na rwthsw, omws, to ejhs: Xqes, o ypoyrgos Metaforwn ths Toyrkias anakoinwse epishmws sth Boylh oti yparxei symfwnia gia toys aerodiadromoys kai qelw na mas peite an h ellhnikh kybernhsh to gnwrize apo xqes. Giati, proxqes, eixate pei alla, sxetika me to qema ayto.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa yparjei epibebaiwsh apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

TAKHS: Exete kapoio sxolio gia tis dhmoskophseis, poy shmera briskontai stis prwtes selides twn efhmeridwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Isxyei to sxolio poy ekana, xqes.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Sthn ekqesh proodoy E.E.-Toyrkias, h Koinothta syndeei pleon safws kai eyqarsws to Kypriako me thn entajiakh poreia ths Toyrkias. O k. Erntogan diamartyretai, den to apodexetai kai leei oti ayto den symperilambanetai. Pws sxoliazete to oti stis 15 toy mhnos o k. Erntogan, paranomws episkeptetai ta katexomena, me skopo kai stoxo na ephreasei tis ekloges toy Dekembrioy yper toy k. Ntenktas;

PRWTOPAPAS: H ekqesh mila apo monh ths kai thn epikrothsame. Tonisame pros thn Toyrkia pws h poreia ths pros thn Eyrwph perna apo thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy. Pisteyoyme oti to exoyn katalabei ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti gia tis dhmoskophseis apanthsate xqes. H apanthsh htan kai gia ton k. Laliwth, poy leei oti anebainoyn synexeia ta pososta ths N.D.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo o,ti moy eipe o idios, pote den exei pei kati tetoio, oyte ayta poy toy apodidoyn orismenoi.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Enteka anqrwpoi htan mprosta, otan to eipe.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai h deyterh fora poy symbainei ayto. H prwth htan me mia ypoqesh synadelfoy sas, poy me rwthse gia to idio qema kai tote toy apanthsa oti den htan etsi. Bebaiws, epibebaiwqhka apo ton idio ton k. Laliwth.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eikosi anqrwpoi to egracan. Oloi egracan cemata;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, den eida eikosi anqrwpoys na to exoyn gracei. Deyteron, o k. Laliwths epikoinwnhse mazi moy kai jekaqarise oti den yparxoyn tetoia pragmata. Den katalabainw giati prepei na synexisoyme ayth th syzhthsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis ton phrate h aytos sas phre sto thlefwno;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epikoinwnhsa me ton k. Laliwth.

KWNSTANTHS: Na epanelqw sto qema ths kas Papazwh. To gegonos oti se mia periodo poy dinetai megalh bash, ws kybernwn komma, sth systrateysh, mia pleiada boyleytwn, oi opoioi, sth syntriptikh pleiochfia toys, sthrijan ton k. Shmith stis allepallhles eklogikes anametrhseis toy, eswkommatikes kai genikoteres, apostasiopoioyntai, problhmatizei ton Prwqypoyrgo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw apanthsei gia to qema ayto se prohgoymenes erwthseis.

KARGOYDH: Meta th xqesinh synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Skandalidh, exete prosdiorisei pote qa prowqhqei sth Boylh to nomosxedio gia ton eklogiko nomo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa apofasistei apo kybernhtika organa. Poly syntoma qa synedriasei kybernhtiko organo, to opoio qa ejetasei olo to paketo twn metarryqmisewn poy prowqei to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs, me eishghth ton k. Skandalidh. Bebaiws, den qa prowqhqei olo to paketo mazi. Qa syzhthqei, se kybernhtiko organo, to synolo ths desmhs twn metarryqmisewn poy exoyn sxesh me to politiko systhma mas, to kratos kai thn perifereiakh organwsh. Sth synexeia, qa bgei apo ekei ena xronodiagramma gia to pote prowqoyntai orismena qemata. Einai safes oti qa protaxqei kai to qema toy eklogikoy nomoy.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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