Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-11-04

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 4 Noembrioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Na sas enhmerwsw, kat` arxas, gia to plhres programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

Stis 10 to prwi, egkainiase to neo staqmo toy diktyoy HSAP sthn Kalliqea. Apo tis 12 to meshmeri, einai se ejelijh h syskech kybernhtikwn kai kommatikwn stelexwn gia qemata kai problhmata ths perifereias. Se mish wra, qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas Gianno Papantwnioy, enocei ths meqayrianhs synedriashs toy KYSEA.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa proedreysei syskechs, me antikeimeno thn episkech toy stis Serres. Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Boylgarias Gkeorgki Parbanof, o opoios pragmatopoiei epishmh episkech sth xwra mas. Meta th synanthsh, oi dyo hgetes qa proboyn se dhlwseis.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Ygeias kai Pronoias K. Stefanh. Stis 11 to prwi, qa synedriasei to KYSEA. Stis 13.30, qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn K. Skandalidh.

Thn Paraskeyh, qa metabei stis Serres, opoy qa egkainiasei to neo nosokomeio ths polhs kai to protypo sxoleio Eidikhs Agwghs. Akoloyqws, qa metabei ston kapodistriako Dhmo Rodoliboys, opoy qa episkefqei to olohmero dhmotiko sxoleio kai ta ekteloymena ekei aqlhtika erga, sto plaisio toy programmatos "Ellada 2004" (kolymbhthrio k.t.l.).

Th Deytera (10/11), stis 12 to meshmeri, qa egkainiasei to ktirio twn Genikwn Arxeiwn toy Kratoys (Xlohs-Dafnhs kai Moyswn sto Cyxiko).

Opws gnwrizete, me omofwnh apofash ths, h Genikh Syneleysh toy OHE enekrine chfisma gia thn olympiakh ekexeiria. Ofeiloyme oloi na xairetisoyme ayth thn ejelijh. Einai mia megalh nikh ths eirhnhs, einai mia megalh nikh toy pneymatos twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, opws emeis toylaxiston pisteyoyme kai bebaiws einai mia megalh ellhnikh epityxia, apo th stigmh poy emeis, me tis prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs kai eidika toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn kai toy armodioy ypoyrgoy G. Papandreoy, phrame thn eyqynh na prowqhsoyme.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

SIDERHS: Qa anaferqw sto neo "Elntoranto" gia kapoioys ek twn ejoplismwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Balate kai titlo, blepw. Oso myqiko kai ektos pragmatikothtas htan to "Elntoranto" profanws einai kai to shmerino.

SIDERHS: Qelete na peite oti leei ceydeis ariqmoys to ypoyrgeio; Milame gia 5,2 tris poy antiproswpeyoyn 183 symbaseis. Apo aytes, mono oi 38 doqhkan me diagwnismo kai oi 138, me diadikasia anaqeshs. Pws tekmhriwnetai h ajiopistia kai h hqikh diaxeirish toy dhmosioy xrhmatos; Me anaqeseis; Kai milame gia toys foroys mas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw, prin kanete tis kriseis sas, na prosejete poly kala ton kanonismo poy yparxei gia tis promhqeies twn Enoplwn Dynamewn -o opoios den isxyei twra stis basikes diatajeis toy gia prwth fora- symfwna me ton opoio yparxoyn diadikasies poy problepontai, oi opoies thrhqhkan apolyta. Kai oxi mono thrhqhkan apolyta, alla pisteyoyme oti me tis epiloges poy exoyme kanei sto xwro twn Enoplwn Dynamewn, ta teleytaia xronia, exoyme ejoikonomhsh terastiwn porwn -einai xarakthristiko to poso twn peripoy 2,5 dis eyrw kat@ etos- oi opoioi exoyn xrhsimopoihqei gia thn enisxysh ths koinwnikhs politikhs mas. Yparxei, loipon, mia swsth diaxeirish, mia swsth ajiopoihsh twn xrhmatwn gia thn Eqnikh Amyna mas. Einai ena qema ycisths shmasias gia ton ellhniko lao. Parallhla, omws, yparxei kai mia allagh toy sxediasmoy, me synesh, wste xwris na meiwnetai h ajiopistia ths Eqnikhs Amynas, na ejoikonomoyntai poroi, oi opoioi diatiqentai gia thn enisxysh ths anaptyjiakhs kai koinwnikhs politikhs mas. Kai ayto ofeiloyme na to shmeiwsoyme me idiaiterh ikanopoihsh.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, meta kai thn teleytaia parembash toy k. Mhtsotakh gia to ekklhsiastiko, apolytws prosfath, exei na kanei kapoio sxolio h kybernhsh; Protiqeste na analabete kapoia prwtoboylia gia th gefyrwsh toy xasmatos poy fainetai na paramenei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prwta ap@ ola, giati syndeete to qema ayto me tis dhlwseis toy k. Mhtsotakh; Einai dyo teleiws diaforetika pragmata. Gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Mhtsotakh exw apanthsei apo xqes kai eipa oti oi dhlwseis aytes "rixnoyn ladi sth fwtia". O idios o k. Mhtsotakhs epestrece shmera to xarakthrismo. Fainetai oti, epeidh eimaste kai oi dyo apo ta Xania exoyme eyaisqhsia sto qema. As mpoyme, omws, sthn oysia, giati pragmati einai ena poly sobaro zhthma. H kybernhsh parakoloyqei apo poly konta tis ejelijeis. Mas endiaferei na brei h Orqodojh Ekklhsia, mesa apo to dialogo, to dromo ths. Kaneis den qelei ayth thn eikona. Pisteyoyme oti h Ekklhsia exei th dynatothta, mesa apo to dialogo Patriarxeioy-Ieras Synodoy ths Ekklhsias ths Ellados, na brei th lysh. Emeis, me sebasmo stoys diakritoys roloys, apofygame, apofeygoyme kai qa apofygoyme parembash sto qema ayto. Ayth einai h qesh mas kai pisteyoyme oti einai h swsth. Mia parembash qa dhmioyrgoyse meizona problhmata kai qa mporoyse na odhghsei se idiaitera arnhtikes katastaseis. Kai den ennow mono kybernhtikh parembash, alla ennow kai to synolo toy politikoy kosmoy. Xairomai, dioti, epishmws toylaxiston -paroti den to throyn ta stelexh ths- to komma ths N.D. emfanizetai na kanei to idio. Prepei, omws, na periorisei ta stelexh toy, ta opoia prwtostatoyn sthn emfanish mias eikonas "Babel". Parakoloyqoyme apo konta ayth thn ypoqesh, alla den qa paremboyme. Pisteyoyme oti mporei me synesh, eyqynh kai dialogo -oloi qeloyme na dieykolynoyme- na breqei lysh mesa stoys kolpoys ths Ekklhsias.

GIANNISHS: H epilogh toy k. Pagkaloy gia thn kybernhsh kai to PASOK einai lysh panikoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Poios to eipe ayto;

GIANNISHS: Etsi feretai na dhlwse o prwhn Grammateas toy PASOK k. Laliwths.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei tetoia dhlwsh toy k. Laliwth. Mhn adikoyme ton k. Laliwth.

GIANNISHS :Einai sthn efhmerida "KERDOS".

PRWTOPAPAS: Den sxoliazw plhrofories, toy typoy "feretai", "kykloi" k.t.l..

GIANNISHS: Den afora kykloys. Einai dhlwseis toy prwhn Grammatea. Diagracte th lejh "feretai". O k. Laliwths dhlwse sthn efhmerida "TO KERDOS" kai sto syntakth ths oti h epilogh toy k. Pagkaloy einai lysh panikoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa kai xqes oti o Grammateas toy kommatos M. Xrysoxoidhs aphyqyne prosklhsh systrateyshs pros ola ta stelexh. Eipa, epishs, oti einai sto xeri toy kaqenos stelexoys na thn ajiopoihsei. O Qodwros Pagkalos, kaqws kai alla stelexh, opws o Alekos Papadopoylos kai alloi, einai parontes se ayth th fash se shmantikes qeseis, opws to kyros kai h ikanothta toys epiballei. Eimai bebaios oti sthn poreia ola ta stelexh qa einai paronta sthn prwth grammh ths eklogikhs maxhs. Alla, den nomizw oti wfelei se tipota h peraiterw paratash ayths ths syzhthshs.

SOYGLERHS: Sto shmeio poy leei oti den qa ginw meros ths ``fwtografias'' toy k. Xrysoxoidh kai toy k. Pagkaloy ti apantate;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den sxoliazw plhrofories kai ektimw oti den xreiazetai peraiterw syzhthsh.

KARGOYDH: Pro oligoy o k. Berelhs, parontos toy Prwqypoyrgoy, anaferomenos sthn ypoqesh toy k. Laliwth sto zhthma ths epanentajhs toy h mh ston proeklogiko sas agwna, sthn oysia afhse na ennohqei oti einai eyqynh twn istorikwn kyriws stelexwn, na epanentaxqoyn sthn proeklogikh ekstrateia toy kybernwntos kommatos. Dhladh ,erije to mpalaki ston k. Laliwth. Epeidh htan parwn o Prwqypoyrgos, hqela na rwthsw ayth einai kai h proseggish toy k. Shmith, enanti toy k. Laliwth;

PRWTOPAPAS: H xqesinh dhlwsh moy, poy egine me thn epishmh idiothta toy kybernhtikoy ekproswpoy, apanta sto erwthma sas.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Hqela na sas diabasw mia dhlwsh toy k. Pasxalidh sxetika me to qema ths Ekklhsias kai th diamaxh ths me to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio, stis 15 Aygoystoy, opoy o k. Pasxalidhs eipe tote oti den exoyme thn polyteleia na ragisoyme thn enothta ths elladikhs Ekklhsias, oyte na fernoyme sto paraskhnio grafes toy parelqontos poy den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn elladikh pragmatikothta. Peste moy, loipon, ean ayth h dhlwsh toy k. Pasxalidh, poy einai melos ths kybernhshs, symbalei se ayto poy eseis lete oles aytes tis hmeres, gia mh anamijh kai oti o dialogos prepei na ginei stoys kolpoys ths Ekklhsias. Edw, exoyme safh topoqethsh yper toy Fanarioy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean qymamai kala tis dhlwseis toy k. Pasxalidh, mallon to antiqeto prepei na exei symbei. Oi dhlwseis toy k. Pasxalidh, eginan palaiotera otan yphrxe allo klima, den eginan kata th diarkeia ths entashs. Kaqe dhlwsh exei th dikh ths ajia sto xrono poy ginetai. Ean, gia paradeigma, breite mia palaia dhlwsh dikh moy -poy bebaia den exei ginei- otan den yphrxe qema kai peite oti synista anamijh, asfalws den einai etsi. To na ekfrasei kapoio stelexos tis apoceis toy se ``nekro'' xrono, den shmainei oti parembainei se ena qema poy tote den yphrxe.

KANELLOPOYLOS: To problhma yphrxe, den eixame to megeqos ths krishs. Edw, omws, melos ths kybernhshs leei oti prepei na skefqoyme pws qa dwsoyme th dynamh sthn enothta ths aytokefalhs elladikhs Ekklhsias.

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan ekane th sxetikh dhlwsh o k. Pasxalidhs den yphrxe to qema se tetoia entash.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den eixame thn entash toy teleytaioy kairoy. Wstoso, yphrxe ws problhma. Otan anaferetai se ermhneies palaiwn grafwn, poy den antapokrinontai sth zwsa pragmatikothta, ayto ti shmainei;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Pasxalidhs mporei na sas analysei ta legomena toy kai oxi egw. Eseis twra, prospaqeite na ajiopoihsete ``trabwntas apo ta mallia'', tis dhlwseis enos stelexoys ths kybernhshs poy exoyn ginei se ``nekro'' xrono. Exei kamia ajia ayto shmera; Einai diaforetikh h katastash.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Ean den yphrxe problhma, poios o logos na milhsei o k. Pasxalidhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, qa empodisoyme ta stelexh mas na milane;

KANELLOPOYLOS: Yphrxe to problhma...

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo to 1928, edw kai 75 xronia, exoyn grafei arqra, meletes, para polla biblia gi ayto to qema.

KWNSTANTOPOYLOS: Thn wra poy o Prwqypoyrgos, o k. Xrysoxoidhs kai o k. Pagkalos miloyn gia systrateysh kai synoxh twn stelexwn toy PASOK o k. Malesios anakoinwnei oti den qa einai ypochfios stis epomenes ekloges. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean kapoios epiqymei na einai h na mhn einai ypochfios stis ekloges ayto den shmainei oti den systrateyetai sthn eklogikh maxh. Den exei kamia sxesh to ena me to allo. Qa ferw ena paradeigma, ayto toy k. Sfyrioy. O k. Sfyrioy ejedwse epishmh anakoinwsh sthn opoia anaferei oti einai para polla xronia boyleyths, oti aisqanetai pws exei prosferei ayto to opoio eixe na prosferei kai den qa einai ypochfios boyleyths sta Dwdekanhsa. Ayto shmainei oti o k. Sfyrioy den qa einai parwn sthn eklogikh maxh. Allo "den eimai ypochfios", allo "den eimai parwn". Ola ta stelexh qa einai paronta sthn eklogikh maxh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Eipate gia proswpikes apoceis: O k. Mhtsotakhs epitrepetai na ekfrazei tis proswpikes apoceis toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai diaforetiko o k. Mhtsotakhs na gracei ena arqro h na pei thn apoch toy gia to Ekklhsiastiko, to 1999 h to 2002 kai einai diaforetiko na kanei dhlwseis en mesw enos idiaitera ojymenoy problhmatos, poy tis teleytaies hmeres exei labei diastaseis. Eiste empeiros politikos syntakths kai eimai apolytws bebaios oti katanoeite apolyta th diafora.

KOYIN: Shmera ginetai mia apergia apo thn ADEDY, h opoia einai h teleytaia mias seiras apergiakwn kinhtopoihsewn poy exoyn ginei toys teleytaioys dyo mhnes. Exei ginei kapoios ypologismos, estw kai proxeiros, gia to ti exoyn stoixisei aytes oi apergies sthn eqnikh oikonomia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ypologismos den exei ginei giati einai poly nwris.

KOYIN: Giati, dyo mhnes ginontai apergies; Xamenes ergatowres@

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai poly nwris. Ekeino poy qa htan dramatiko gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia, qa htan h ikanopoihsh orismenwn ek twn aithmatwn twn apergwn. Dramatiko gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia gia paradeigma qa htan na doqoyn 20% ayjhseis h diplasiasmos apodoxwn poy einai ta aithmata orismenwn apergwn. Giati, gia na antejei h ellhnikh oikonomia na dwsei aytes tis ayjhseis qa eprepe na exoyme katafygei se yperdaneismo. Ayto qa htan idiaitera arnhtiko kai katastrofiko, isws, katw apo orismenes proypoqeseis, gia thn oikonomia. Fysika, emeis pote den qa to kaname ayto. Yperdiplasiasmoi kai ayjhseis eji fores panw apo ton timariqmo, qa odhgoysan se poly arnhtikes katastaseis. Se kaqe periptwsh, loipon, exeis ena synypologismo kostoys-ofeloys. H kybernhsh to jekaqarise, gi` ayto kai efere ta misqologia sth Boylh. Den yparxei periqwrio gia alles ayjhseis. Ejantlhsame ta periqwria antoxhs ths oikonomias. Me to xeri sthn kardia leme oti doqhkan oysiastikes ayjhseis poly panw apo ton plhqwrismo se orismenes periptwseis. Ayta einai ta oria kai ta oria den prepei na jepernioyntai, giati tote qa htan kai kako gia toys idioys toys ergazomenoys.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Pws qa xarakthrizate thn apofash toy IKA na periorisei thn pwlhsh akribwn farmakwn se epta mono, panelladikws, farmakeia kai an ayto antibainei sthn koinwnikh politikh ths kybernhshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prin apo ligo paraxwrhse synenteyjh Typoy o dioikhths toy IKA k. Nektarios. Qa hqela, loipon, na sas parapemcw stis dhlwseis toy. Pisteyw oti oi ejhghseis poy edwse shmera o k. Nektarios apantoyn se polla apo ta erwthmata poy exoyn teqei.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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