Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-10-24

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 24 Oktwbrioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Qelw na kanw, eisagwgikws, treis parathrhseis:

H prwth afora thn apergia twn ergazomenwn sthn Topikh Aytodioikhsh. Gnwrizete oti, apo xqes to brady, h apergia khryxqhke, me apofash toy dikasthrioy, meta apo prosfygh toy ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn, paranomh kai kataxrhstikh. Par ola ayta, yphrje mia apofash ths Omospondias gia synexish ths apergias. Hdh, to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn exei aposteilei epistolh pros toys Dhmarxoys kai pros tis Enwseis, zhtwntas thn efarmogh toy nomoy. Yparxoyn sxetikes dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Eswterikwn Kwsta Skandalidh. Qelw na tonisw to ejhs: Exei proklhqei ena meizon qema, poy apeilei thn ygeia twn Ellhnwn politwn. Qa prepei oi ergazomenoi na epideijoyn thn prepoysa eyqynh, na efarmosoyn to nomo. Qemata poy aforoyn thn ygeia twn politwn den mporei na antimetwpizontai, epiteloys, me toso kynismo.

H deyterh parathrhsh afora dhlwseis gyrw apo to zhthma me th shmaia kai to maqhth Tsenai. Prepei na tonisw kati poy afora th N.D. Xqes me dhlwsh toy ekproswpoy ths, mas eipe oti symfwnei me to gramma toy nomoy. Kalo einai ayto. Qeloyme, omws, na thn kalesoyme na peisei ta stelexh ths, poy bgainoyn synexws sta MME, na efarmosoyn kai na akoloyqhsoyn kai to pneyma toy nomoy, giati, epiteloys, Ellhnas einai opoios to aisqanetai.

H trith parathrhsh afora ena qema poy einai gnwsto apo xqes me dhlwseis toy k. Berelh. Qelw na tonisw oti akoma perimenoyme thn topoqethsh ths N.D., gia thn prajh toy k. Xatzhdakh. O k. Xatzhdakhs, me erwthsh toy pros thn ka Nte Palaqio, thn Eyrwpaia Epitropo, zhta oysiastika na stamathsei h diadikasia anadiorganwshs kai swthrias ths Olympiakhs. O k. Berelhs apokalyce xqes kai th sxetikh erwthsh kai edwse amesws thn apanthsh. Kaloyme th N.D. na topoqethqei kaqara: Kalyptei thn energeia toy Eyrwboyleyth ths; Nai h oxi; Qelei pragmati kai symfwnei me ekeinoys poy epiqymoyn na stamathsoyn th diadikasia swthrias ths Olympiakhs; Nai h oxi; Perimenoyme topoqethsh kai qa epanelqoyme.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SIDERHS: Yparxei qema diaforopoihshs ths anadeijhs twn Moyfthdwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, opws exei aposafhnistei apo xqes. To lete, profanws, logw ths sygxyshs poy proklhqhke se jeno praktoreio. Htan laqos kai to diorqwse apo xqes to brady o k. Xythrhs, toy opoioy oi dhlwseis htan poly swstes. H paranohsh egine apo to praktoreio.

MPOTWNHS: Eipate gia thn apergia, gia ta skoypidia. Epeidh ta ``boyna'' megalwnoyn, h Dikaiosynh fainetai oti ekane to kaqhkon ths, oi apergoi synexizoyn kai apo thn allh pleyra, to Ypoyrgeio qa epitajei...

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den eipa oti qa epitajei. Eipa oti to Ypoyrgeio exei parembei. Jekaqarizei, me dhlwseis toy k. Skandalidh, oti oloi oi Ellhnes einai isoi enwpion toy nomoy kai prepei na efarmostei h dikastikh apofash. Tonizw ki egw oti prepei oi ergazomenoi na efarmosoyn th dikastikh apofash kai na deijoyn thn prepoysa eyaisqhsia se ena toso sobaro qema. Giati den mporei na antimetwpizetai h ygeia twn politwn me tetoio kynismo.

MPOTWNHS: Den exete eyqynes, dhladh, eseis gia olo ayto to diasthma kai sas kathgorei kai h N.D. gi ayto. Oti, dhladh, den mporei twra na antimetwpistei gia dyo-treis hmeres, otan 20 xronia den mporeite na lysete to problhma;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh einai etoimh na synexisei to dialogo gia qesmika qemata, bebaiws. Oxi gia parapera oikonomikes parembaseis. Gia ta qesmika qemata, omws, to jekaqarise kai o k. Skandalidhs kai o k. Papadhmas. Eimaste etoimoi na synexisoyme to dialogo.

GARGALAKOS: Epi toy prakteoy: Oso synexizetai, dhladh, o dialogos, qa menoyn ta skoypidia ekei; Thn telikh eyqynh, se teleytaia analysh, thn exei h kybernhsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Na qymisw oti milame gia synexish toy dialogoy, meta th lhjh ths apergias. Qa efarmostei h apofash, eipe o k. Skandalidhs, kai sth synexeia qa syzhthsoyme ta qesmika qemata.

MPOTWNHS: To epomeno bhma ths kybernhshs qa einai h epistrateysh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa kati tetoio. Giati na ginei epistrateysh; Yparxei mia dikastikh apofash, h opoia einai idiaitera entonh sto qema ths perifroyrhshs ths ygeias twn politwn. Oi Dhmarxoi ofeiloyn na efarmosoyn ayth th dikastikh apofash. Hdh, to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn exei steilei sxetikh epistolh. Oi Dhmarxoi einai eklegmenoi, ekfrazoyn to lao, einai apolyta se qesh na efarmosoyn tis diatajeis.

GARGALAKOS: Omws, exei katalhfqei paranoma h xwmaterh. Ean htan anoixth ta skoypidia qa mazeyontoysan.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto einai mia pragmatikothta, giati polloi Dhmoi qa eixan frontisei na mazeytoyn ta skoypidia. Ap` o,ti exw plhroforhqei synedriazei to Dioikhtiko Symboylio toy Eniaioy Syndesmoy Dhmwn kai Koinothtwn Attikhs.

MPOTWNHS: Yparxoyn kataggelies oti ergazomenoi poy qeloyn na doylecoyn, den toys afhnoyn, me apotelesma na exoyn kai prostima mexri 2.000 eyrw kai yparxei ena terastio alaloym.

PRWTOPAPAS: Me ayto poy lete symfwneite apolyta mazi moy, oti prepei twra, meta th dikastikh apofash, oi Dhmarxoi na analaboyn oles tis anagkaies prwtoboylies gia thn efarmogh ths. Leme, nai sto dialogo, alla prwta na mazeytoyn ta skoypidia. Prepei na epideixqei h aparaithth stash eyqynhs apo toys ergazomenoys. Den mporei na antimetwpizetai ayto to zhthma me toso kynismo.

PAPA: An para tayta oi Dhmarxoi den efarmosoyn thn apofash ti qa kanete; Problepontai kapoies kyrwseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas pw oti einai parabash kaqhkontos na mhn efarmosei kapoios thn apofash.

PAPA: Kai, loipon@;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei eyqynh opoios den efarmozei to nomo.

ANTYPAS: Mporeite na mas enhmerwsete pote einai h teleytaia periptwsh poy diapistwqhke parabash kaqhkontos kai yphrje h opoiadhpote kyrwsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei ginei para polles fores. Mhn exete laqos entypwsh, epeidh den ginontai poly gnwsta ola ayta. Yparxoyn para polles kyrwseis, para polles mhnyseis, para polles parapompes se dikh gia parabash kaqhkontos.

TSEMPERHS: Kai oso, dhladh, qa perimenoyme an qa yparjoyn mhnyseis politwn, an qa mazecoyn h den qa mazecoyn, an qa efarmosoyn h den qa efarmosoyn to nomo oi Dhmarxoi, ta skoypidia qa paramenoyn sta pezodromia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den tiqetai se erwthma h efarmogh toy nomoy. Qa efarmostei o nomos. Apo ekei kai pera, den nomizw oti yparxei kapoia allh protash ayth th stigmh. Na paroyme ta pragmata ena-ena:

Kat` arxas, h politeia ekane dialogo. Ejantlhse ta oria. Prosefyge sto dikasthrio. Bghke h apofash. Amesws h politeia, to ypoyrgeio, zhthse apo toys Dhmarxoys na analaboyn thn eyqynh toys kai na efarmosoyn to nomo. Ayto exei hdh ginei, th stigmh poy milame. Exei eidopoihqei kai h hgesia toy Eniaioy Syndesmoy Dhmwn kai Koinothtwn Attikhs. Apo ekei kai pera, oloi prepei na analaboyme tis eyqynes mas. Qelw na to tonisw, gia na ginei kaqaro: Staqhkame ypeyqyna sto dialogo, ton opoio meta th lhjh ths apergias mporoyme na synexisoyme gia ta qesmika aithmata. Prospaqhsame na staqoyme, oso mporoyme, konta sta aithmata twn ergazomenwn. Kapoia stigmh ejantlhqhkan ta oria poy yphrxan. Yphrje prosfygh toy ypoyrgeioy sto dikasthrio. H apergia kriqhke paranomh kai kataxrhstikh, gia logoys prostasias ths ygeias toy polith. Einai wra na analaboyn oloi tis eyqynes toys kai na prostateysoyn thn ygeia twn politwn. Kai panw apo ola oi idioi oi ergazomenoi na deijoyn thn prepoysa eyaisqhsia. Einai qema poy den diapragmateyomaste.

GARGALAKOS: H k. Ntora Mpakogiannh eipe oti einai paranomh h katalhch ths xwmaterhs kai to dikasthrio symfwnei. Giati, loipon, h politeia, h kybernhsh den pairnei metra; Exoyme mia paranomh katalhch. H kybernhsh einai ypeyqynh gia thn ygeia twn politwn poy ontws apeileitai. Giati, loipon, den pairnete metra tajhs na anoijete th xwmaterh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Poia einai ta metra, dhladh;

GARGALAKOS: Enas eisaggeleas, me thn Astynomia na paei na thn anoijei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, prepei na sas epishmanw kati poy prepei na to jerete. Apo th stigmh poy prosfygame, einai se gnwsh toy Eisaggelea oti apeileitai h ygeia twn politwn. To leei kai h apofash toy dikasthrioy. Kai, opws jerete, o eisaggeleas mporei na parembei, exei dikaiwma an to epilejei. Apo ekei kai pera exei eidopoihqei h hgesia toy Eniaioy Syndesmoy Dhmwn kai Koinothtwn Attikhs, h opoia kaleitai na parei tis apofaseis kai na analabei tis eyqynes ths. Exoyn eidopoihqei oi Dhmarxoi. Kaloyntai na analaboyn tis eyqynes toys. Einai safes oti, an aytoi kinhtopoihqoyn, den qa yparjei kanena problhma.

Yparxei organwmenh politeia sthn Ellada. Otan enas einai Dhmarxos kai ekfrazei toys dhmotes toy Dhmoy kai yparxei mia apofash, opoy o nomos epitassei na ginei kati, ayto prepei na ginei kai exei thn ypoxrewsh o idios na to kanei. Exei eidopoihqei pros toyto.

BITALHS: Prin apo 20 hmeres anakoinwqhke apo thn Attaleia symfwnia twn kyriwn Papandreoy - Gkioyl gia "moratorioym" stratiwtikwn askhsewn, thn opoia kai xairetisate. Xqes, o ypoyrgos Amynas ths Kyproy dhlwse oti diejagontai stratiwtikes askhseis apo toyrkika strateymata anamesa sth Leykwsia kai th Larnaka kai oti ayto ginetai kata parabash toy "moratorioym" poy exei symfwnhqei. Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia th stash ths Toyrkias se ayto to zhthma kai an, kata th gnwmh ths kybernhshs, isxyei to "moratorioym" stratiwtikwn askhsewn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas exw pei oti mataiwqhkan dyo sygkekrimenes askhseis, oi opoies piqano na dhmioyrgoysan genikoterh entash sthn perioxh. Oxi, bebaiws, apo th dikh mas, alla apo thn allh pleyra. En pash periptwsei, egine mia symfwnia mataiwshs twn dyo sygkekrimenwn stratiwtikwn askhsewn. Dhmioyrgeitai ena pneyma dialogoy -opws tonise kai o k. Gkioyl edw- kai etsi prepei na synexisoyme. Apo ekei kai pera, qa ektimhsoyme th stash ths Toyrkias.

KALARITHS: H kybernhsh, dhladh, hjere oti oi Toyrkoi qa anabaloyn mia sygkekrimenh askhsh kai oxi alles;

PRWTOPAPAS: Symfwnhsame gia dyo sygkekrimenes askhseis.

KALARITHS: Egw rwtw an jerate gia tis ypoloipes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Symfwnhsame gia dyo sygkekrimenes askhseis megalhs ektashs kai dhmioyrghqhke ena kalytero klima, to opoio diapistwqhke kai me thn episkech toy k. Gkioyl. Qeloyme na synexisoyme se ayto to klima.

KALARITHS: Ektimate oti se ayto to pneyma entassetai h dienergeia mias askhshs twra apo toys Toyrkoys; Rwtw an einai pneyma dialogoy h pneyma koroidias.

PRWTOPAPAS: As mh biazomaste se ayta ta zhthmata. Den xreiazetai. Qa to doyme kai qa epanelqoyme.

TSEMPERHS: Exei na kanei kapoio sxolio h kybernhsh gia to xqesino gegonos ths diamaxhs enwpion ths DOE, toy k. Aleyra me thn k. Aggelopoyloy, poy katelhje sth dhlwsh, "to 2004 eimai egw";

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo o,ti gnwrizw yparxoyn shmera para polles dhlwseis diaceyshs.

TSEMPERHS: Ws mh lexqen, dhladh; Den egine pote aytos o dialogos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa gnwrizete, ypoqetw, tis sxetikes dhlwseis. Yparxoyn dhlwseis kai apo ton k. Aleyra. Isxyei h diaceysh toy.

KALARITHS: Egine gnwsto, xqes, oti o Oikoymenikos Patriarxhs esteile epistolh stoys Mhtropolites twn legomenwn Newn Xwrwn kai qelw na rwthsw an h kybernhsh ektima oti ayth h epistolh kai to periexomeno ths symballei sthn amblynsh ths krishs metajy Elladikhs Ekklhsias kai Patriarxeioy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai gnwsth h stash mas sto qema ayto.

Sas eyxaristw.

SHMEIWSH: H epomenh enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn

qa ginei thn Tetarth, 29 Oktwbrioy.

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