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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 20 Oktwbrioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Shmera, stis 10 to prwi, synedriase h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph gia thn proetoimasia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn.

@ Stis 12.30, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias.

@ Stis 2 to meshmeri, qa synanthqei me ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn Kwsta Skandalidh, gia qemata ths armodiothtas toy.

@ Stis 9 to brady -opws gnwrizete- o Prwqypoyrgos kai h ka Shmith paraqetoyn dejiwsh sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy PASOK, sto Megaro Majimoy.

Thn Trith to brady qa yparjei synanthsh me toys kyrioys Xristodoylakh kai Berelh, kaqws kai me to Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy PASOK Mixalh Xrysoxoidh.

Thn Tetarth qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias k. Gkioyl kai qa labei meros sth diadikasia ths pro hmerhsias diatajhs syzhthshs sth Boylh gia thn eyrwpaikh politikh. Qa synedriasei kai to Ektelestiko Grafeio toy PASOK.

Thn Pempth, qa synedriasei h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph gia toys palinnostoyntes kai toys metanastes.

Perissoteres leptomereies gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, qa sas anakoinwsw ayrio.

Qelw na kanw dyo eisagwgikes dhlwseis: H prwth afora orismena senaria poy synexizontai kai logiko einai na sxoliastoyn. Kai h deyterh afora th shmerinh omilia toy k. Karamanlh sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy kommatos toy.

@ Ws pros to prwto, kai pali to Sabbatokyriako kai kyriws se ebdomadiaia efhmerida to Sabbato, eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas anypostata senaria, peri dhqen apoxwrhshs toy Prwqypoyrgoy h kai allwn koryfaiwn stelexwn prin apo tis ekloges. Einai safes oti ta senaria ayta den ofeilontai oyte se dhmosiografikes plhrofories, oyte se ektimhseis. Kai apo th stigmh poy synexizontai, enw exoyn diaceysqei apo ta pio epishma xeilh, den prodidoyn oyte afeleia, oyte agnoia. Einai safes oti prokeitai gia diatetagmenh senariografia, h opoia ejyphretei mono tis epikoinwniakes anagkes toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs kai prospaqei na dhmioyrghsei problhmata sto PASOK, na diamorfwsei arnhtiko klima enocei twn eklogwn kai bebaiws, na emfanisei ton Prwqypoyrgo ws dhqen ``ypo proqesmia''. Ta senaria ayta synexisthkan kai thn Kyriakh.

@O k. Karamanlhs milwntas shmera sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy kommatos toy, anaferqhke, metajy allwn -qelw na sxoliasw kyriws ena shmeio- se epanejetash twn apokratikopoihsewn. O sxoliasmos moy exei ws ejhs: O k. Karamanlhs epixeirhse kai pali na prokalesei problhmata stis ejelijeis sthn oikonomia, milwntas asthrikta kai xwris apodeijeis h endeijeis, peri dhqen problhmatikwn apokratikopoihsewn, oi opoies qa prepei na epanejetastoyn. Einai safes oti o k. Karamanlhs qelei na mhn proxwrhsoyn oi apokratikopoihseis, na mhn proxwrhsoyn oi ejelijeis sthn oikonomia, ejelijeis poy, ws gnwston, dynamwnoyn thn antagwnistikothta ths. Giati; Giati ton endiaferei, panw apo ola, na ejyphrethsei tis anagkes, oxi ths Elladas kai ths oikonomias ths, alla tis anagkes toy kommatos toy, enocei eklogwn. Kala qa kanei o k. Karamanlhs h na kataqesei poia sygkekrimena stoixeia exei kai na ta paei ston eisaggelea h na stamathsei na rixnei aparadektes skies panw apo to dhmosio bio kai na synexizei na prokalei problhmata sthn ellhnikh oikonomia kai stis ejelijeis se aythn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SOYGLERHS: Na pame sto prwto qema poy sxoliasate. An katalaba kala anafereste sto prwtoselido toy ``Kosmoy toy Ependyth''...

PRWTOPAPAS: Metajy allwn.

SOYGLERHS: Gia thn apoxwrhsh toy k. Shmith...

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi mono ayto, senaria oloklhra, poy synexisthkan kai thn Kyriakh.

SOYGLERHS: Ektima h kybernhsh oti kindyneyei apo ayth th senariografia poy blepei to fws ths dhmosiothtas, paratetamenh ton teleytaio kairo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den kindyneyei h kybernhsh, alla otan yparxei diatetagmenh senariografia, kalo qa einai na to epishmainoyme.

SOYGLERHS: Yparxei kapoio shmeio poy mporeite na anaferete, poy kateyqynoyn, opws eipate; Eipate gia th N.D. etsi apla h N.D.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nomizw oti htan safh ayta poy eipa. Den nomizw oti xreiazetai na pw kati allo. Hmoyn safhs. Milhsa gia diatetagmenh senariografia.

TAKHS: Exete kapoio sxolio gia to oti o k. Paoyel telika den qa episkefqei thn Ellada; Yphrje kapoio paraskhnio, kapoies synanthseis poy telikws fqasame se ayth thn anabolh, mataiwsh h otidhpote allo ths episkechs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Isxyei apolyta h xqesinh dhlwsh moy. O k. Paoyel exei ena idiaitera fortwmeno programma. Eixame krathsei, ean qymaste, apo thn Tetarth ki egw kai o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy mia sxetikh epifylajh gia thn telikh pragmatopoihsh ths episkechs, paroti kai arxikh epibebaiwsh yphrxe thn Tetarth, paroti eixan erqei oi propompoi kai eixe arxisei h sxetikh proetoimasia. Par ola ayta eixame pei oti einai poly fortwmeno to programma toy k. Paoyel kai elpizoyme telika na pragmatopoihqei h episkech. To programma kai oi ypoxrewseis poy eixe o k. Paoyel, den toy epetrecan telika na erqei. Den yparxei kanena problhma.

SIDERHS: Ena aploiko erwthma ep` aytoy. Giati to diarreysate, afoy den eixe oristikopoihqei; Den bgainei meiwmenh h kybernhsh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Dierreysa kati kai den to jerw;

SIDERHS: Oxi eseis, h kybernhsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma ti lete twra; Den egine kamia diarroh. Egine enhmerwsh oti yparxei periptwsh na erqei o k. Paoyel. H enhmerwsh ayth epibebaiwqhke apo ton k. Papandreoy kai apo emena, thn Tetarth kai qa eidate oti xrhsimopoihsame enan epifylaktiko tono kai oi dyo. Sas parapempw stis dhlwseis toy k. Papandreoy. Paroti gnwrizete oti yphrje, kat` arxas, epibebaiwsh kai gnwrizame oloi oti mporei na yparjei kapoio problhma, logw toy fortwmenoy programmatos toy k. Paoyel, Den htan epishmh h programmatismenh episkech. Htan mia prospaqeia toy k. Paoyel na erqei sth xwra mas. To programma toy k. Paoyel kai oi ejelijeis poy yparxoyn sta qemata, poy bebaiws apasxoloyn idiaiterws tis HPA, ston Arabiko kosmo kai sth Mesh Anatolh, den toy epetrecan telika na erqei. Ayto htan mesa stis piqanothtes poy eixame proanaggeilei. Den katalabainw poio einai to problhma.

FILHS: Tis teleytaies hmeres, se dyo qemata poy aptontai twn ejwterikwn sxesewn ths xwras kai stoxwn idiaiteroy eqnikoy endiaferontos, opws einai h epistrofh twn Marmarwn kai h mataiwsh ths episkechs toy k. Paoyel, doqhke h entypwsh mias, toylaxiston, kakhs proetoimasias, kapoiwn astoxwn xeirismwn, isws kai gkafas, ek meroys ths kybernhshs. Sth mia periptwsh, to akoysame oloi apo thn thleorash, sth deyterh, erxetai den erxetai. Ayto, kata th gnwmh sas, dinei thn eikona mias ypeyqynhs stashs sthn antimetwpish kapoiwn eqnikwn stoxwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws. Poio einai to problhma; As arxisoyme apo thn deyterh periptwsh. Yphrxe periptwsh na erqei o k. Paoyel. Kapoia stigmh ayto anakoinwqhke. Sthn epishmh anakoinwsh diathrhqhke h epifylajh, logw toy fortwmenoy programmatos toy k. Paoyel. Yphrxe h epibebaiwsh -kai to gnwrizete- me to eggrafo poy dhmosieyetai shmera se merida toy Typoy. Yphrje h epistolh pros to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, sthn opoia anaferotan oti epibebaiwnetai, apo amerikanikhs pleyras, pws o k. Paoyel piqanotata qa episkefqei thn Ellada. Akribws h idia dhlwsh eixe ginei kai apo ton k. Papandreoy kai apo emena, thn Tetarth. Eixame epishmanei me epifylaktikothta thn episkech, logw toy bebarhmenoy programmatos poy eixe o k. Paoyel ayth thn periodo. Telika o k. Paoyel, logw twn ayjhmenwn ypoxrewsewn toy, den katesth dynato na erqei. Poio einai to problhma; Apo th stigmh poy briskontai edw Amerikanoi propompoi, kai parallhla to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn proetoimazetai gi ayth thn episkech, qa protimoysate na mhn eixate enhmerwqei; Tote qa mas kathgoroysate gia mystikh diplwmatia. Ean thn Tetarth, dierrean fhmes gia piqanh episkech toy k. Paoyel kai en tw metajy kapoioi ergazontan gia thn proetoimasia ayths ths episkechs kai emeis den anakoinwname kati sxetiko, qa mas kathgoroysate oti leitoyrgoyme ypopta. Einai etsi h oxi; Timia kai kaqara anakoinwsame oti prokeitai na pragmatopoihqei ayth h episkech kai diathrhsame thn epifylajh, logw bebarhmenoy programmatos toy k. Paoyel. Eipame, omws, oti proetoimazomaste. Den htan cemata, htan alhqeia. Ean qymamai kala, o Amerikanos presbhs sthn Aqhna k. Miler, epibebaiwse thn yparjh propompwn. Telika den katesth dynato na erqei sthn Aqhna o k. Paoyel. Poia einai h eyqynh ths ellhnikhs ejwterikhs politikhs h ths kybernhshs; Prepei na eimaste sobaroi se tetoia qemata.

FILHS: Exei janasymbei ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw. O k. Paoyel htan piqano na erqei. Ayth htan h synennohsh poy eixe ginei. Epibebaiwqhke kai apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

FILHS: Den anaggelqhke, eixate eseis plhrofories.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den htan plhrofories.

FILHS: Den dhmosiopoihqhke ayto.

PRWTOPAPAS: Dhmosiopoihqhke thn Tetarth oti yparxei kat arxhn mia synennohsh. Epishs, dhmosiopoihqhke thn idia hmera, pws yparxei problhma ejaitias toy bebarhmenoy programmatos toy k. Paoyel. Den apokrycame tipota thn Tetarth. Qymamai poly kala ti sas eixa anakoinwsei. O k. Papandreoy htan, epishs, safhs stis dhlwseis toy ejw apo to Megaro Majimoy. Den qa eprepe na proetoimastei gia thn episkech, apo th stigmh poy yphrxan kai propompoi; Protimate na mhn eixate enhmerwqei gia thn epikeimenh episkech; Qa htan swsto; Fantazomai, oxi. Qa mporoysame na eixame kathgorhqei gi ayto. To gegonos oti den apokryptoyme thn alhqeia, den prepei na ektimhqei; Sas parakalw, einai ena qema panw ston opoio prepei na staqoyme me idiaiterh sobarothta kai eyqynh.

Oson afora to qema twn Marmarwn, qelw na to kanw safes: O Prwqypoyrgos einai kaqaro oti zhtaei pisw ta Marmara kai agwnizetai gi ayto. Einai mia megalh prospaqeia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, poy exei kaqara eqnika xarakthristika kai piezei gi ayto. Apo kei kai pera, ean h N.D. me th stash ths -opws swsta eipe o k. Benizelos- prospaqei na emfanisei to antiqeto, einai mia energeia poy ekqetei thn idia. Den ekqetei emas.

FILHS: Pantws qa hqela gia enhmerwsh mas na rwthsete ean exei yparjei allh fora mataiwsh episkechs Amerikanoy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn ...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayta symbainoyn. Otan prokeitai gia mh epishmes episkeceis, orismenes fores exoyn symbei kai dieqnws. Ayth h episkech den htan oyte programmatismenh, oyte epishmh. Prospaqeia htan, qelhsh htan.

MPOTWNHS: Yparxei ena xqesino dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas "PARON" poy leei oti to mystiko ths ypoqeshs Staqea brisketai se mia gynaika, h opoia ergazetai se grafeio kybernhtikoy stelexoys kai olh ayth h senariologia endexomenws na ypokryptei kai politikes eyqynes sthn olh diadikasia. Ti apanta h kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh apanta ayto poy eixa pei kai thn prohgoymenh ebdomada oti mas endiaferei na fwtistoyn oles oi pleyres ayths ths ypoqeshs. Na maqei o ellhnikos laos olh thn alhqeia poy odhghse se ayto to idiaitera dysaresto gegonos. Kai bebaiws taytoxrona na synexistei me ton pio apofasistiko tropo h politikh mas gia thn katapolemhsh ths paranomias. Ayto endiaferei thn kybernhsh. Na maqei o ellhnikos laos thn alhqeia kai na synexistei apofasistika h politikh mas gia thn katapolemhsh ths paranomias. Pros ayth thn kateyqynsh qa laboyme ola ta anagkaia metra. Hdh, gnwrizete oti o eisaggeleas kineitai se ayth thn kateyqynsh kai oti proxwroyn oi dioikhtikes ereynes gia ta aitia poy odhghsan thn Staqea sthn aytoktonia. Epishs, gnwrizete oti o k. Fwtiadhs exei diatajei EDE, se sxesh me orismena dhmosieymata poy yphrxan sto xwro toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn. Einai safes oti kanenas sthn Kybernhsh den exei na krycei tipota. To antiqeto. Epidiwkoyme na xyqei apleto fws se ayth thn ypoqesh. Eimaste bebaioi oti qa ginei ayto, alla qeloyme na jekaqarisoyme pros kaqe endiaferomeno oti qa synexistei, qa oloklhrwqei kai qa exei apotelesmata h politikh mas gia to ktyphma ths paranomias sthn ayqaireth domhsh, oso kai an enoxlei merikoys.

KWNSTANTOPOYLOS: Telika yphrxe h oxi sxesh toy k. Fwtiadh me th Roympinh Staqea;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei topoqethqei o idios o k. Fwtiadhs me ton pio safh kai kaqaro tropo. H entolh gia dienergeia EDE nomizw oti apantaei se oloys sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti o k. Paoyel eixe bebarhmeno programma. Efoson htan bebarhmeno to programma toy, thn hmeromhnia 22 Oktwbrioy poios thn anakoinwse, poios thn epeleje, xwris na exei pei tipota o idios;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanalambanw oti yphrje mia synennohsh me ton k. Paoyel, mhpws sto plaisio ths periodeias toy mporoyse na erqei kai sthn Aqhna. O k. Paoyel eixe deijei endiaferon gia kati tetoio kai thn prohgoymenh Tetarth -yparxei kai to sxetiko eggrafo- kapoia stelexh ths amerikanikhs pleyras eixan eidopoihsei oti pragmati yparxei enas qetikos prosanatolismos apo ton k. Paoyel, bebaiws panta diathroymenwn twn problhmatwn toy baryfortwmenoy programmatos toy. Thn Tetarth, toso o k. Papandreoy, oso ki egw anaferqhkame se ayto to qema epishmws kai malista krathsame mia epifylajh. Apo ekei kai pera, telika o k. Paoyel den mporoyse.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pantws, h edw amerikanikh Presbeia elege oti den qa elqei. Den eixe kamia eidopoihsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto to eipe h amerikanikh Presbeia dia twn dhlwsewn toy k. Miler, xqes.

ZOYLAS: O k. Mpegliths to prwi eipe oti h prwth fora poy koinopoihqhke sth xwra mas h proqesh toy k. Paoyel na erqei htan stis 10 Oktwbrioy, mesw enos eggrafoy@

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Mpegliths safws exei perissotera stoixeia apo o,ti egw.

ZOYLAS: Stis 10 Oktwbrioy, loipon, stalqhke ena eggrafo sthn Presbeia mas sthn Oyasigkton. Ayth th bebaiothta me thn opoia oysiastika ekfrazotan h proqesh toy k. Paoyel na erqei diaceydetai apo ton k. Miler poy eipe kai xqes kai shmera oti den oristhke pote ws prokaqorismenh mia episkech@

PRWTOPAPAS: Ypo thn ennoia oti den doqhke to teliko OK einai safes. To eipa ki egw. Yphrxe, omws, mia bebaiwsh thn Tetarth -exei doqei kai keimeno, to eida shmera se merida toy Typoy- oti yphrxe eidopoihsh oti telikws erxetai. Kai oxi mono ayto, alla eixan stalei kai propompoi, pragma to opoio paradexetai h amerikanikh pleyra. Den stelneis propompo kapoy poy exeis prokaqorisei oti apokleietai na pas. Stelneis propompo kapoy poy yparxei toylaxiston piqanothta na pas. Otan stelnei propompoys to amerikaniko ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn -kai ayto den to arnhqhke h Presbeia- oyte shmainei oti sigoyra erxetai, alla oyte kai oti sigoyra den erxetai. Shmainei oti yparxei piqanothta. Ayto eixame pei ki emeis. Diaforetika den yphrxe kanenas logos na erqoyn propompoi sthn Ellada. Ara, loipon, h yparjh propompwn anagkazei prwton na ginoyn kapoies anakoinwseis peri ths piqanothtas ayths kai deyteron apotelei ena gegonos oti einai mia yparkth periptwsh poy syzhtaei h amerikanikh pleyra. To pragma apodeiknyetai. Eixame pei thn Tetarth oti yparxei mia synennohsh, gia thn opoia epifylassomaste me bash to baryfortwmeno programma toy. Den katalabainw giati prepei na synexizoyme ayth th syzhthsh. An mporoyse o k. Paoyel qa erxotan. Den mporese, den hrqe.

SIDERHS: Poso sobaro ektima h kybernhsh oti einai na mh synexistei h roh twn xrhmatwn toy G@ KPS, logw ths ekqeshs enos ypallhloy gia kakodiaxeirish;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn anhsyxeite, qa synexistei kanonika h roh toy G@ KPS.

SIDERHS: Pws ektimate tote tis energeies aytoy toy ypallhloy poy einai Ellhnas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw na prosqesw kati allo. Qa synexistei kanonika h roh toy G@ KPS. Mhn anhsyxeite, exoysi gnwsin oi fylakes.

FILHS: Mas eixate pei oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh protiqetai na steilei, ws xwra, pera apo to qema ths E.E. oikonomikh bohqeia sto Irak.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ejetazetai.

FILHS: Proxqes, amesws meta thn chfish toy Chfismatos apo ton OHE treis megales xwres h Gallia, h Germania kai h Rwsia -menw omws sth Gallia kai th Germania, poy einai xwres-melh ths E.E.- dhlwsan oti para thn chfish toy Chfismatos den exoyn arqei oi oroi poy apagoreyoyn thn apostolh oikonomikhs, stratiwtikhs h allhs bohqeias sto Irak kai oti den qa steiloyn. Qelw na jerw gia poio logo diaforopoieitai h ellhnikh pleyra apo th qesh twn dyo megalwn aytwn xwrwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti oi dyo aytes xwres -Gallia kai Germania- poy chfisan ayto to Chfisma piezoyn, wste na oloklhrwqei h allagh, thn opoia exoyn proteinei. Einai kai ayto ena kommati ths dieqnoys diplwmatias. Apo th mia bgazeis apo to adiejodo ton OHE kai apo thn allh synexizeis na piezeis sthn kateyqynsh poy esy epiqymeis. Einai safes, epishs, oti ta pragmata arxizoyn kai allazoyn kai oso ginetai ayto bebaiws ki emeis den pairnoyme tis telikes apofaseis mas. Omws, to na yparjei mia bohqeia, eite gia anqrwpistikoys logoys, eite gia logoys anasygkrothshs, sto plaisio poy epitrepoyn oi dynatothtes ths xwras, safws to ejetazoyme. Ejalloy, kai alles xwres to exoyn hdh anaggeilei. Den katalabainw giati ayto einai kako. Briskomaste se ena dromo na analabei o OHE thn anasygkrothsh toy Irak. Bebaiws, to deytero chfisma poy eferan oi HPA, opws dhlwsan oi Galloi kai oi Germanoi, mporei na mhn toys ikanopoiei apolyta, alla parola ayta chfisthke, giati exoyn allajei kateyqynsh kai exei diafanei mia oysiastikh allagh. Piezoyme oloi sthn kateyqynsh ths oristikhs aposafhnishs toy zhthmatos kai ths dromologhshs twn ejelijewn, symfwna me thn anagkh na analabei o OHE kai sth synexeia na dromologhqoyn ejelijeis, wste na janagyrisei to Irak stoys Irakinoys. Ayto qelei kai mia bohqeia. Oso, loipon, mporoyme dioti exoyme poly periorismenes dynatothtes, emeis symballoyme.

FILHS: Otan oi xwres poy chfizoyn to Chfisma ston OHE ypodhlwnoyn oti einai katoxh kai den qeloyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eimaste mia allh xwra. Exoyme kratikh ontothta.

FILHS: Kai akoloyqeite thn Amerikh. Ayto lete.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto eipa;

FILHS: Ma poios allos to kanei ayto to pragma; Peite moy mia eyrwpaikh xwra.

PRWTOPAPAS: An lete oti akoloyqoyme thn Amerikh shmainei oti den parakoloyqeite tis ejelijeis.

FILHS: Apanthste moy poia eyrwpaikh xwra exei apofasisei na steilei oikonomikh bohqeia. Apanthste moy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizw arketes. Gia paradeigma h Ispania.

FILHS: H Ispania kai h Megalh Bretania einai yper toy polemoy. Gi` aytes milame twra; Gia filopolemo mploko;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyn steilei kai alloi xrhmata, dioti yparxoyn problhmata, yparxoyn anqrwpoi poy peqainoyn kai den mporoyme na menoyme siwphloi se tetoies katastaseis. An eseis mporeite, einai diko sas qema.

FILHS: Leipoyn ta xrhmata apo to Irak poy paragei petrelaio kaqhmerinws; @H to "trwne" kapoioi to kerdos apo to petrelaio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn entona problhmata sto Irak, den einai ta pragmata etsi opws ta lete. An esas den sas enoxlei, emas mas enoxlei.

FILHS: Xrhmata stelnete, den stelnete giatroys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai giatroys qa steiloyme, an xreiastei.

EYQYBOYLOY: Qa hqela na sxoliaste tis dhlwseis toy Toyrkoy antistrathgoy, sxetika me thn episkech toy k. Gkioyl, ayrio, kai epishs qa hqela na rwthsw ean kata thn episkech toy qa egerqei to qema ths mh efarmoghs twn apofasewn toy Dikasthrioy twn Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: As perimenoyme na doyme apo tis anakoinwseis poy qa kanoyn meta tis synanthseis poy qa exoyn o k. Papandreoy kai o Toyrkos omologos toy. Opws sas exoyme enhmerwsei, o k. Gkioyl qa exei synanthsh kai me ton Prwqypoyrgo. As mh biazomaste. Kaqe episkech exei th dikh ths shmasia. Ayth h episkech exei ejairetikh shmasia. Otan oloklhrwqei qa yparjoyn sxetikes anakoinwseis kai elpizoyme oti qa einai qetikes. Oson afora tis dhlwseis toy Toyrkoy antistrathgoy -to eipa kai to Sabbato- o k. Ozgkiok katadeixnei ta pragmata poly apla. Me th diafora, omws, oti einai poly apla apo thn antistrofh. An h Toyrkia qelei na qewrei ta pragmata toso poly apla as lysei to Kypriako, as symballei toylaxiston sth lysh toy Kypriakoy kai apo ekei kai pera qa exei symballei emmesws kai sthn enisxysh ths eyrwpaikhs poreias ths. Alla, einai safes poio einai to prwto kai poio einai to deytero. Kai ayto emeis den to syzhtoyme. H eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias pernaei mesa apo thn katarghsh ths diaxwristikhs grammhs sthn Kypro.

ZOYLAS: Gia th dhmoskophsh ths MRB qelw dyo sxolia@

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa thn Kyriakh.

ZOYLAS: Qa hqela na rwthsw gia kati sto opoio den exete topoqethqei. To prwto einai oti apodeiknyei oti yparxei ena para poly mikro endiaferon ths koinhs gnwmhs gia thn Olympiada, ena pososto 0,8% protassei thn Olympiada, sta amesa problhmata. Kai to deytero, gia to 10% twn chfoforwn toy PASOK, oi opoioi deixnoyn na strefontai apeyqeias pros th N.D..

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqe dhmoskophsh exei stoixeia. Den symfwnei h mia dhmoskophsh me thn allh. Emeis ola ta stoixeia ta meletame kai ta ajiologoyme. Se kamia periptwsh oi dhmoskophseis, oyte kaqorizoyn tis politikes prwtoboylies mas, oyte prodikazoyn thn chfo twn politwn. Ekeino, omws, poy prepei na jerete einai oti eite einai kaqe bdomada, eite einai kaqe dyo hmeres oles exoyn ta stoixeia toys. Apo ekei kai pera, oi politikes prwtoboylies mas einai ekeines poy mas endiaferoyn kai endiaferoyn kai to lao kai einai aytes poy qa kaqorisoyn kai thn chfo twn politwn, oxi oi metrhseis.

Eyxaristw.

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