Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-10-01

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 1 Oktwbrioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KARGOYDH: Kat` arxas, qa hqela na rwthsw, ean exete mia apanthsh gia to proxqesino dhmosieyma kai deyteron, o Prwqypoyrgos sthn episkech toy sthn Agia Barbara afhse na ennohqei oti qa yparjoyn peraiterw ayjhseis stoys syntajioyxoys. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora to prwto qema, exoyme safh politikh gyrw apo thn eyrwpaikh asfaleia. Ontws, yparxei epistolh toy k. Miler pros ton k. Papandreoy. Analogh epistolh exei stalei kai stis alles eyrwpaikes kybernhseis. Einai oi gnwstes amerikanikes apoceis. Exoyme tis dikes mas apoceis gia thn eyrwpaikh asfaleia, symfwna me to plaisio poy exei kaqorisei h E.E.. Apo ekei kai pera, antallassoyme apoceis kai yparxei problhmatismos. Se kaqe periptwsh, kinoymaste basei twn apofasewn kai toy plaisioy poy exei kaqorisei h E.E.. Oson afora to deytero qema, qa doqoyn ayjhseis stoys syntajioyxoys. Einai safes, anakoinwqhkan kai xqes apo ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. Einai megalytero to pososto se xamhles syntajeis. Fainetai jekaqara sth xqesinh anakoinwsh toy k. Xristodoylakh, thn opoia epanelabe shmera o Prwqypoyrgos. Oi ayjhseis stis xamhles syntajeis einai ychloteres apo aytes twn misqwn se orismenes periptwseis.

GARGALAKOS: O Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti "ayjhsh qa yparxei stis syntajeis, to exoyme pei. H ayjhsh ayth qa einai poly megalyterh apo o,ti einai genika gia toys ergazomenoys".

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto eipa. Exei jekaqaristei apo xqes.

SIDERHS: Thn prohgoymenh ebdomada miloysame gia kakopistoys. Omws, ta gegonota einai "jerokefala", opws qa elege kai o Lenin. Xqes, askhqhke nea diwjh gia tria kakoyrghmata kata toy k. Kokkalh. Mhpws o Prwqypoyrgos epanejetazei thn apofash toy na dwsei sth dhmosiothta thn epistolh toy aqlhtikoy idrymatos ths Rwsias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete, h epistolh exei stalei sth Dikaiosynh apo to idio to Idryma kai h ypoqesh exei parei to dromo ths. Den katalabainw giati prepei na anameignyetai h kybernhsh se qemata poy den thn aforoyn.

SIDERHS: Giati, symfwna me plhrofories poy dhmosieythkan sthn "Eleyqerotypia" thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, sthn epistolh anaferetai oti episeietai h epistolh ston Prwqypoyrgo, oti epixeireitai sygkalych.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayta den einai sobara. Den anaferomai bebaia sthn efhmerida, alla sto kommati poy lete peri sygkalychs. Poios milhse gia sygkalych;

SIDERHS: Oti to anaferei h epistolh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai pote dynaton h kybernhsh na anameixqei sto ergo ths Dikaiosynhs; Apodeixqhke oti den exei anameixqei kai oti h ereyna proxwrei.

LAMPRAKOS: To leei ayto, kata th dikh moy ekdoxh, epeidh to rolo toy kymatoqraysth se ayto to kyma kataggeliwn einai o idios eisaggeleas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Me kaleite na anameixqw sto ergo ths Dikaiosynhs; As janadiabasoyme to Syntagma mas.

KONTOPANOS: Qa epanelqw sto qema toy ASEP. Sas esteila, xqes, ta sxetika stoixeia...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai tipota to sygkekrimeno. Prokeitai gia kataggelies h parapona politwn poy den exoyn sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

KONTOPANOS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai enhmeros apo to 2001 gia ta stoixeia ayta.

PRWTOPAPAS: Anaferetai se parapono polith pros to Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Apo ekei kai pera, to Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy, opws kanei se oles aytes tis periptwseis, to diabibazei armodiws.

KONTOPANOS: Poia einai h qesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto qema; Giati kai ston epomeno diagwnismo parathrhqhkan ta idia kai ta kataggellei eggrafws kai o Synhgoros toy Polith. Yparxei kai dikastikh apofash.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kapoios poliths poy den mpainei se ena diagwnismo einai logiko na exei ta parapona toy. Den shmainei oti einai dikaiologhmena. Otan kapoios elpizei se mia sygkekrimenh kariera kai den thn exei, synhqws ekfrazei kapoia parapona. Kaqe kataggelia ejetazetai an einai basimh h oxi.

KONTOPANOS: Yparxoyn kai eperwthseis sth Boylh gia to qema.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanalambanw oti yparxoyn kata kairoys parapona politwn, ta opoia ejetazontai. Dhladh, ean kapoia dhmosia yphresia dikaioytai na kanei proslhceis me diadikasies ASEP, to opoio shmainei oti to ASEP egkrinei thn prokhryjh kai ws ena shmeio kaqorizei toys oroys ths -sthn periptwsh ths ERT ebale oroys- gia na diasfalisei ayto poy pisteyei oti einai swsto. Sth synexeia, elegxei th moriodothsh. Yparxei periptwsh enas poliths na exei kanei enstash kata ths arxikhs moriodothshs poy ekane kapoios organismos kai na exei dikaiwqei. Omws, yparxoyn xiliades periptwseis enstasewn kata ths arxikhs moriodothshs kai den exoyn dikaiwqei. Ean, loipon, to ASEP diapistwsei kapoio laqos se kapoia moriodothsh aytomatws parembainei kai exei dikaiwma na thn allajei. Einai dikaiwma toy polith na kanei entash -kai pisteyw oti swsta prattei ean niwqei adikhmenos- gia na diapistwqei to dikaio h mh. Den shmainei, omws, ejorismoy oti yparxei problhma. Alla kai an exei apodeixqei dikaih h entash kapoioy polith, ayto den shmainei oti yphrje dolos. Otan ginontai oi moriodothseis, basei kapoioy kanonismoy, piqano na yparjei kai kapoio laqos. Gi@ ayto to logo yparxei to dikaiwma ths enstashs. Ayta, omws, den symbainoyn se proslhceis poy ginontai kateyqeian apo to ASEP, giati ekei den exei breqei laqos. Tetoies periptwseis yparxoyn otan ginontai proslhceis me diadikasies ASEP. Einai pragmata diaforetika metajy toys kai to lew gia na mhn yparxei sygxysh. To ASEP prostateyei ton polith. Oxi mono den einai diatrhto, opws lanqasmena epixeireite na paroysiasete, alla apotelei dikleida asfaleias yper toy polith.

KONTOPANOS: Tote, giati to ASEP kai o Proedros toy k. Behs, rixnoyn ta barh sto ypoyrgeio; Ara, o Synhgoros toy Polith, poy eseis orqws qesmoqethsate, kakws kanei ayth thn ekqesh. Leei oti den akoloyqhqhkan oi synnomes diadikasies...

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn periptwseis stis opoies to ASEP exei kanei parembaseis, poy ginontai dektes apo th dioikhsh. Alla kai apo ayta poy lete, pali bgainei to symperasma oti to ASEP kanei swsta th doyleia toy. Dioti, ean parembainei enantion kapoioy dhmosioy organismoy, shmainei oti kanei swsta th doyleia toy.

KONTOPANOS: Oi arxikoi, omws, pinakes aytwn poy eixan perasei, allajan.

PRWTOPAPAS: Prospaqeite na kanete antiparaqesh.

KONTOPANOS: Prospaqw na dw ean h kybernhsh skopeyei na antimetwpisei to zhthma h oxi.

PRWTOPAPAS: Hdh, sas exw ejhghsei poia einai h diadikasia. Akomh ki an allaje kapoios pinakas, shmainei oti ton allaje to ASEP, poy einai -epanalambanw- h asfalistikh dikleida gia toys polites, meta apo enstaseis toys.

KONTOPANOS: Den egine h allagh meta tis enstaseis politwn. Mesa se pente hmeres allaje o pinakas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parakalw poly na qymaste oti edw qetete erwthseis kai den kanete politikh antiparaqesh.

POYLIDOY: Einai diadikastiko to erwthma, alla to politiko mhnyma me endiaferei. Exete pei oti den organwnete dhmosiografikh apostolh gia th Synodo Koryfhs ths Rwmhs. Ayto shmainei, dhladh, oti h kybernhsh qewrei pws to eyrwpaiko endiaferon ths koinwnias prepei na einai meiwmeno apo th stigmh poy teleiwse h Ellhnikh Proedria;

PRWTOPAPAS: Organwnetai apostolh gia th Synodo Koryfhs.

POYLIDOY: Kai ayth Synodos Koryfhs einai. Kai sthn enarjh ths Synodoy ths Diakybernhtikhs, sto Torino, poy eixe ginei pali me Synodo Koryfhs, h kybernhsh Shmith eixe organwsei dhmosiografikh apostolh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh exei sygkekrimeno xarakthra kai mikrh diarkeia, qa yparjei synenteyjh Typoy poy qa dwsei o Prwqypoyrgos meta th lhjh ths, h opoia qa kalyfqei kai qa dianemhqei. Gi` ayto, den organwqhke dhmosiografikh apostolh. Opoy yparxei oysiastikh syzhthsh, diorganwnoyme dhmosiografikh apostolh. Epishs, kati poy prepei na lhfqei ypoch einai to oikonomiko meros aytwn twn apostolwn. Prospaqoyme na periorisoyme tis megales dapanes kai na perioristoyme sta apolytws anagkaia. Sth Synodo Koryfhs poy qa diejaxqei stis Bryjelles stis 16 kai 17 Oktwbrioy, opoy qa yparjoyn apofaseis qa einai parontes oi dhmosiografoi. H kybernhsh den apagoreyei se kanena dhmosiografo na einai parwn sth Diakybernhtikh me dika toy ejoda. Apo ekei kai pera, gia na epibarynqei to Dhmosio ta ejoda ths apostolhs; Dioti peri aytoy syzhtoyme. Oikonomikoi einai oi logoi. Shmainei oti h kybernhsh epilegei kapoies periptwseis gia tis opoies yparxei idiaitero endiaferon, dioti ekei krinontai kapoies apofaseis. Me dedomeno, loipon, oti to xroniko diasthma poy mesolabei apo th mia synedriash ews thn allh einai mikro, epilejame h dhmosiografikh apostolh na einai paroysa stis Bryjeles kata th Synodo Koryfhs stis 16 kai 17 toy mhnos. An kapoios, omws, exei entono endiaferon gia thn enarkthria hmera den exei para na parei to aeroplano kai na metabei sth Rwmh.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, xqes akoysame ton k. Boylgarakh, pera apo th synaisqhmatikh fortish poy eixe, na anaferetai me kapws sklhra logia sto qema ths tromokratias, legontas oti yparxei "oyra" kai kalytera qa einai na eimaste feidwloi oloi gyrw apo ayto to qema, oti exei pataxqei h tromokratia. Exete kati neotero epi toy sygkekrimenoy qematos; Enhmerwqhkate gia ta gkazakia sto spiti toy k. Boylgarakh; Genikotera qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean sas problhmatizei ayto se sxesh kai me th meiwsh twn astynomikwn poy proetoimazete@

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai diaforetiko qema h patajh ths tromokratias. H istoria ayth me ta gkazakia einai aparadekth kai katadikastea. Fantazomai, omws, oti einai katanohth h diafora toy enos qematos apo to allo. H "17N' einai sth fylakh kai dikazetai. Qa exoyme tis apofaseis toy dikasthrioy se kapoia xronikh stigmh. Elpizw oti briskomaste konta sto telos ths dikhs. Ayto, omws, einai qema ths Dikaiosynhs. Opws einai gnwsto, exoyme proxwrhsei sthn patajh ths tromokratias. Exoyme proxwrhsei kai sth dikh ths "17N". H Dikaiosynh epitelei to ergo ths kai qa bgalei tis apofaseis ths.

Oson afora to qema me ta gkazakia, h Astynomia to ereyna. Kai aytes oi prajeis einai katadikastees, anejarthta ean einai diaforetikes apo mia tromokratikh energeia. Ola ta synejetazoyme. Ean me rwtate, ean qa yparxei froyra ston k. Boylgarakh, bebaiws qa yparxei. Aytes oi dyo periptwseis einai diaforetikes. To epishmainw gia na mh bgazoyme ayqaireta symperasmata. Einai allo h "17N" kai allo kapoioi anegkefaloi, anohtoi, oi opoioi qewroyn oti me ayto ton tropo qa epideijoyn kapoia paroysia.

IWANNOY: Paraligo, na eixame kai qymata. Symfwna me ta osa eipe o k. Boylgarakhs, apeilhqhkan oi zwes twn dikwn toy anqrwpwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanalambanw oti se ola ta zhthmata h Astynomia kanei th doyleia ths. Katanooyme apolytws thn cyxikh odynh twn anqrwpwn poy dexqhkan aytes tis epiqeseis, dhlwnoyme thn ameristh symparastash mas kai me tis arxes asfaleias lambanoyme ta metra mas. Oi arxes asfaleias exoyn apodeijei oti epiteloyn to ergo toys sto akeraio. Proswpika qa hqela na mhn kanoyme to laqos na taytizoyme dyo teleiws diaforetikes metajy toys periptwseis.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, para tis ayjhseis poy anakoinwqhkan, oi kinhtopoihseis twn ergazomenwn synexizontai kai malista eixame thn prosfygh toy ypoyrgeioy Gewrgias sth Dikaiosynh. Pws skeftetai h kybernhsh na antimetwpisei to kyma aytwn poy exoyn kinhtopoihqei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den moy aresei h lejh "antimetwpish". Kaname endelexh dialogo kai katalhjame mesa apo diaforetikes proseggiseis se mia telikh protash. Prosejte ton oro "telikh protash". Giati telikh protash; Dioti yparxoyn oria sthn oikonomia, dioti den yparxoyn alles oikonomikes dynatothtes. Einai ayth h telikh protash ikanopoihtikh; Kata th gnwmh mas nai, dioti yperbainei shmantika to ycos toy plhqwrismoy. Ara, staqera ayjanetai to pragmatiko eisodhma twn ergazomenwn. Ara staqera beltiwnetai h oikonomikh katastash twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn. Oi telikes protaseis poy paroysiase o k. Xristodoylakhs beltiwnoyn thn pragmatikh oikonomikh katastash toy ergazomenoy, symballoyn sto kalytero biotiko epipedo gia toys dhmosioys ypallhloys. Einai, omws, sto orio ths oikonomias. Exoyme ejantlhsei ayto to orio. Den yparxoyn parapera dynatothtes. Enas tyxon daneismos gia xorhghsh oikonomikwn ayjhsewn qa eqete se kindyno tis katakthseis sthn oikonomia kai telika o idios o laos qa to plhrwne. Gi` ayto to logo kai aytes oi apofaseis, einai oi telikes apofaseis mas. Einai qetikes gia toys ergazomenoys dioti beltiwnoyn thn pragmatikh qesh toys. Ejantloyntai oi dynatothtes ths oikonomias. Den yparxoyn alla periqwria. Apo ekei kai pera, epeidh me rwtate syxna kai taytizete tis kinhtopoihseis metajy toys -synhqizoyme na to kanoyme ayto sthn Ellada- qa parathrhsete oti oi kinhtopoihseis aytes stamatoyn. Den exoyme ayth thn periodo kinhtopoihseis benzinopwlwn, opws thn prohgoymenh ebdomada. Epishs kai se alloys xwroys symbainei to idio. Opws exw plhroforhqei oti kai sto xwro ths Paideias, sthn Tritobaqmia Ekpaideysh yparxoyn allages. Yparxoyn alloy typoy kinhtopoihseis. Den einai oi synexeis kinhtopoihseis. Diapistwnete oti polla pragmata allazoyn. Emeis prospaqhsame na ejhghsoyme giati krathsame ayth th stash. Kai ean oi polites, akomh kai oi apergoi, katanohsoyn to logo poy akoloyqhsame ayth thn politikh kai analysoyn tis apofaseis mas, qa katalaboyn oti telika katalhjame sthn pragmatikh beltiwsh ths qeshs toys, xwris bebaiws na toys steroyme apo th dynatothta, meta apo ena h dyo xronia na epanelqoyn stis diekdikhseis toys.

ANANIADHS: Thn wra poy lene oti ginetai oikonomia kai den qelei to PASOK na jodeyei, diabazoyme kai plhroforoymaste oti xanoyme 2 dis to mhna apo th xrhsh twn newn aerodiadromwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti eixa na pw oson afora to qema ayto, to exw pei. Exw pei oti ayth h apofash htan qetikh kai oikonomika kai epixeirhsiaka.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: H E.E. eixe dwsei proqesmia, mexri telos Septembrh, gia na katarghqei to sxedio gia thn Olympiakh Aeroporia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Nomizw oti shmera exei katateqei. Shmera o k. Berelhs esteile to sxedio.

Perimena na dw ean qa yparjei erwthma gi` ayto poy syzhtoysate molis mphka sthn aiqoysa, epanerxomai aytoboylws dioti to qewrw shmantiko. Epeidh, omws, den yphrje erwthma epanerxomai stis dhlwseis toy k. Spanoydakh, oi opoies en telei den me aforoyn, alla isws qa exei endiaferon na diabastei ayth h synenteyjh. Emeis bohqame gia na ginei katanohto to ejhs: Oti den yparxoyn Ellhnes dyo kathgoriwn. Oi filoi kai oi mh filoi toy k. Karamanlh. An osoi aisqanontai filoi toy k. Karamanlh apokaloyn toys ypoloipoys ``skoylhkia'', ayto toys xarakthrizei. Qa perimena me endiaferon tis antidraseis toy k. Karamanlh. Gi` ayto poy lypamai einai oti yparxoyn boyleytes kai stelexh ths N.D., oi opoioi kai xqes kai shmera sthn efhmerida ``APOGEYMATINH'', epanhlqan kai kalyptoyn ayth thn antilhch. Oti to SDOE, poy ekane elegxo se oloys toys alloys, den dikaioytai na kanei elegxo stoys filoys toy k. Karamanlh. To SDOE qa kanei elegxo se oloys toys Ellhnes polites, eite einai filoi toy PASOK, eite einai filoi ths N.D., eite kommatos ths Aristeras, dioti ayto epiballei to Syntagma, oi nomoi kai h isothta twn politwn. Kalw th N.D. na apanthsei: Einai oloi oi Ellhnes isoi h yparxoyn kapoioi poy einai pio isoi apo toys alloys, me monadiko proson na einai filoi toy arxhgoy ths;

TAKHS: Apanthse o k. Roysopoylos.

PRWTOPAPAS: An prosejate thn anakoinwsh toy den mpainei sthn oysia.

Sas eyxaristw.

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