Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-09-23

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 23 Septembrioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KALARITHS: O ypoyrgos Gewrgias k. Drys, to prwi, meta th synanthsh toy me ton Prwqypoyrgo, eipe oti h syzhthsh me qema to dasiko nomo qa synexistei sto epomeno Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Pote qa ginei;

PRWTOPAPAS: To qema qa syzhthqei sto epomeno ypoyrgiko symboylio.

KALARITHS: Kata proseggish, gia poses xiliades stremmata miloyme;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa mpw kaqoloy sthn oysia. O,ti eipe o ypoyrgos Gewrgias isxyei apolyta. Ta ypoloipa apo to ypoyrgiko symboylio. Giati diaforetika qa arxisoyme na syzhtoyme gia ena nomosxedio, to opoio den exei egkriqei apo to ypoyrgiko symboylio.

KALARITHS: An moy epitrepete, yparxoyn hdh antidraseis kai apo to TEE kai apo alloys foreis, oson afora th syntagmatikothta toy nomosxedioy...

PRWTOPAPAS: ... to opoio den exoyn dei;

KALARITHS: Profanws, exoyn plhrofories.

MIXAHL: Gia ta ayqaireta.

PRWTOPAPAS: Allo ta ayqaireta, allo oi dasikes ektaseis. Den syndeetai to ena me to allo.

KALARITHS: Ean apoxarakthristoyn dasikes ektaseis den qa anoijei o dromos gia nomimopoihseis ayqairetwn ekei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, oyte nomimopoihsh ayqairetwn problepetai apo to sxetiko nomosxedio.

KALARITHS: An apoxarakthristoyn dasikes ektaseis den qa anoijei o dromos gia hlektrodothsh kai ydrodothsh ayqairetwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na deite synolika th logikh me thn opoia proseggizoyme to qema. Ayth th stigmh, yparxoyn aerofwtografies apo to 1945. Sthn prajh, ta pragmata einai diaforetika. Prepei na mpei mia oristikh taktopoihsh, me sygxrono tropo, toy oloy problhmatos. Ayth thn taktopoihsh qeloyme na epixeirhsoyme. Den mporw, omws, na prokatalabw tis apofaseis toy ypoyrgikoy symboylioy. Sas lew oti h qesh mas einai na yparjei mia oristikh taktopoihsh toy problhmatos, poy exei na kanei me tis dasikes ektaseis, me sygxrono tropo kai me bash tis shmerines synqhkes. Den yparxei kamia proqesh nomimopoihshs kapoioy, oyte entajhs kapoioy alloy. Yparxei proqesh gia mia oristikh taktopoihsh, me tis shmerines synqhkes. To pws kai to ti, qa to syzhthsoyme sto ypoyrgiko symboylio.

MPOTWNHS: Mhpws aytes oi prosfates apofaseis toy ypoyrgikoy symboylioy gia ta ayqaireta den qa mporoysan na efarmostoyn, eite sto synolo toys, eite en merei, giati exoyme kataggelies, gia paradeigma apo to TEE, poy lene oti den yparxei statikh eparkeia sta ayqaireta, den dinoyn adeia, dhladh den ypografoyn oi mhxanikoi, gia na paroyn reyma ta ayqaireta;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei mia pragmatikothta. Polloi synanqrwpoi mas zoyn xwris reyma kai nero. Loipon, qa toys dieykolynoyme, nai h oxi; Apo ekei kai pera, oles aytes oi adeies einai periorismenhs xronikhs diarkeias. Prepei na to qymisw ayto. Ara, an ena ayqaireto poy exei reyma h nero, meta apo aytes tis ryqmiseis, den mporesei na entaxqei sto sxedio polews kai stis poleodomikes meletes poy qa yparjoyn, qa lhjei h adeia kai qa exei pleon aporrifqei oristika. Kai gia toys dyspistoys, qelw na tonisw oti apo xqes exoyn arxisei na gkremizontai orismena ayqaireta stis perioxes, opoy exoyme apokleisei kaqe endexomeno nomimopoihshs.

PEGKOS: To SDOE phre apofash, meta tis epixeirhseis, na elegxei pleon kai toys polites;

PRWTOPAPAS: Phre apofash h exete eseis plhrofories;

PEGKOS: Apo plhrofories.

PRWTOPAPAS: Allo apo plhrofories kai allo apofash. To epishmainw gia na baloyme ta pragmata sthn pragmatikh diastash toys.

PEGKOS: Ean parei apofash to SDOE na elegxei kai toys polites, mhpws h epektash ayth twn armodiothtwn einai ws apanthsh ths kybernhshs sthn ejaggelia Karamanlh peri katarghshs toy SDOE;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei qema na elegxei o SDOE toys polites. Den yparxei tetoio zhthma. Yparxoyn sxetikes dhlwseis toy k. Xristodoylakh. O SDOE exei enan allo rolo kai an xreiastei na ginoyn kapoioi memonwmenoi elegxoi gia na dieykolynqoyn kapoies periptwseis, yparxoyn kai oi armodies forologikes arxes. Einai diaforetiko pragma na elegxei o SDOE toys polites kai diaforetiko na ginontai forologikoi elegxoi gia kapoies eidikes periptwseis.

Epishs, qelw na sas qymisw oti emeis oydepote akoloyqoyme ton k. Karamanlh. Aytos akoloyqei emas. Den prosdiorizoyme tis politikes mas me bash tis ejaggelies toy k. Karamanlh, oi opoies synhqws einai ewles, anefarmostes kai makran ths pragmatikothtas.

MPOTWNHS: Exoyme kapoio neo stoixeio gia th dolofonia daskaloy sthn Alejandreia, an den kanw laqos, thn Kyriakh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia plhrofories sxetika me o,ti exei na kanei me egklhmata, yparxoyn oi armodies arxes.

IWANNOY: Den afora thn kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqe egklhmatikh prajh, kaqe qanatos h kaqe anejixniasth ypoqesh, afora to kratos. Alla yparxoyn oi armodies arxes asfaleias. Den eipa oti den mas afora.

GARGALAKOS: Eixame tis ryqmiseis gia ta ayqaireta, tis opoies exete dikaiologhsei...

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi ryqmiseis den einai gia ta ayqaireta, einai ryqmiseis gia tis poleodomikes adeies. Ta ayqaireta einai ena tmhma toy nomosxedioy.

GARGALAKOS: Exoyme twra tis ryqmiseis gia tis dasikes ektaseis kai eixame kai tis ejaggelies gia to eqniko plaisio drashs. Ola ayta den exoyn mia proeklogikh xroia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na stamathsoyme, dhladh, th leitoyrgia ths kybernhshs; Syxna ginetai ayth h erwthsh kai xairomai poy me rwtate, alla den einai dynaton, kaqe toso, na mas rwtate ean einai proeklogikh h kaqe apofash poy lambanei h kybernhsh. Kat` arxas, den eimaste se proeklogikh periodo. Deyteron, apofaseis lambanontai ola ta xronia. Sxedia drashs gia thn apasxolhsh yparxoyn apo to 1998 ews shmera, kaqe xrono. Den einai h prwth fora poy ginetai tetoio sxedio drashs. Den einai h prwth fora poy perilambanei sygkekrimena metra politikhs. Eidika ston tomea ths apasxolhshs oi basikes arxes ths politikhs mas einai idies apo to 1996-97 ews shmera. Apo tote, dhladh, poy arxisame thn eniaia eyrwpaikh politikh gia thn apasxolhsh, poy ws epakoloyqo eixe ta eqnika sxedia drashs. Kaqe xrono ginontai tetoies ejaggelies. Giati prepei kaqe energeia ths kybernhshs na syndeetai me tis ekloges; Syndeetai me thn efarmogh toy programmatos mas. H kybernhsh ylopoiei ena sygkekrimeno programma kai einai logiko na anagnwrizetai ayto apo ton ellhniko lao.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh, xqes, h rwsikh pleyra kateqese epishma aithma ekdoshs toy k. Gkoyzinski, hqela na rwthsw ean yparxei ananewsh twn piesewn poy kata to prosfato parelqon dexqhke h kybernhsh apo jenes kybernhseis yper toy k. Gkoyzinski;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme dexqei pieseis. Milhsan gia endiaferon, oxi gia pieseis. Yparxei diafora. Paralabame sxetiko aithma, diabibasthke kai brisketai ston Eisaggelea Efetwn. Einai safes oti gia to qema ayto xreiazetai na yparjei topoqethsh toy Symboylioy Efetwn, thn opoia den mporoyme na gnwrizoyme. Sth synexeia qa prajoyme analoga.

SIDERHS: Xqes o k. Koybelhs diamartyrhqhke oti ta mikra kommata einai apokleismena apo ta hlektronika MME. Skeftetai h kybernhsh na kanei systash;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean prokeitai gia tis ekloges, qa hqela na sas qymisw oti yparxei plhrhs nomoqesia.

SIDERHS: H proeklogikh periodos einai eji mhnes kai oi ekloges einai 30 hmeres.

PRWTOPAPAS: Thn orisate kiolas thn proeklogikh periodo; Edw exoyme kainofaneis orismoys!

IWANNOY: To diaceydete oti einai eji mhnes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Antilambanomai oti exete arxisei na emfanizete kainofaneis orismoys. Eipate oti h proeklogikh periodos einai ejamhnh. Den briskomaste se proeklogikh periodo. H proeklogikh periodos, symfwna me to nomo, diarkei ebdomades, oxi mhnes.

SIDERHS: Alla den fqanoyn merikes hmeres gia na probaloyn tis qeseis toys ta mikra kommata.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto poy qesate einai swsto. Sas qymisa oti yparxei plhrhs nomoqesia kai exoyme kanei ena shmantiko bhma gia thn proeklogikh periodo. Apo kei kai pera, thn probolh twn mikroterwn kommatwn thn kaqorizei to nomoqetiko plaisio, poy -opws gnwrizete- einai plhres. Pio sygkekrimena thn kaqorizei o kwdikas deontologias gia tis enhmerwtikes kai politikes ekpompes, ton opoio to ypoyrgeio Typoy kai MME, exei frontisei na ependysei me th morfh toy Proedrikoy Diatagmatos, wste na exei ypoxrewtikh efarmogh. Gnwrizete, malista, oti orismenoi apo toys synadelfoys sas, otan epemena sthn prowqhsh toy sxetikoy Proedrikoy Diatagmatos, mas eipan oti kakws to kanoyme kai oti afhnoyme ton Kwdika sthn aytodesmeysh twn dhmosiografwn. Gia mia akoma fora, dikaiwnomaste. Dioti ean to afhname sthn aytodesmeysh kai aytoryqmish den qa eixe ginei tipota. Oyte qa yphrxe kanenas na elegjei aytes tis katastaseis. Ayto to qymizw ston k. Koybelh, o opoios apo th mia orqws zhtei thn probolh toy kommatos toy kai apo thn allh, otan yparxoyn kapoioi kanones, poy mas bohqoyn na thn epibaloyme, diamartyretai kai zhtei aytoryqmish. Epeidh, pragmati, exei dikio o k. Koybelhs epi ths oysias, mporei na ginei prosfygh sto ESR kai ayto gnwrizei ti qa prajei. Kaq` oson mas afora den exoyme kamia armodiothta parembashs stoys idiwtikoys thleoptikoys kai radiofwnikoys staqmoys gia thn probolh twn kommatwn ayth thn periodo. Bebaiws, h Politeia endiaferetai na throyntai oi diatajeis toy qesmikoy plaisioy. Me ayth thn ennoia eimaste konta sto ESR, politika, hqika kai deontologika. Alla, to ESR einai to armodio organo ths Politeias, to opoio qa ektimhsei thn katastash kai qa labei tis apofaseis toy. Qelw, loipon, na parakalesw, toso ton ekproswpo toy Synaspismoy, oso kai toys ekproswpoys allwn kommatwn, poy isws dikaiologhmena diamartyrontai gia tetoia zhthmata, na qesoyn tis apoceis toys enwpion toy ESR kai ayto qa kanei to kaqhkon toy, me bash tis keimenes diatajeis. Oson afora thn ERT, ypo thn ennoia ths politikhs eyqynhs poy exoyme -dioti einai metoxos to ellhniko dhmosio- prepei na sas pw oti epaneilhmmena exoyme systhsei (kai shmera to kanw) na yparxei ypologismos kai emfanish olwn twn politikwn kommatwn kai omadwn poy drasthriopoioyntai sto plaisio toy Syntagmatos mas, stis ekpompes ths, eite einai deltia eidhsewn, eite einai ekpompes dialogoy kai enhmerwshs. H ERT pros ayth thn kateyqynsh exei kanei terastia bhmata kai ofeiloyme ayto na to anagnwrisoyme. Bebaiws, panta yparxoyn periqwria beltiwshs.

MPOTWNHS: Pws sxoliazete oti sta katexomena "synelhfqh" mazi me alloys ellhnokyprioys kai enas gaidaros, dinontas mia diastash tragelafikoy epeisodioy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayta ta gegonota aggizoyn to orio ths geloiothtas kai qa prepei oi Toyrkokyprioi na to prosejoyn poly ayto. Elpizw oti ton talaipwro to gaidaro den qa ton odhghsoyn se dikh!.

Sas eyxaristw.

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