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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 17 Septembrioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Eisagwgika, qelw na epishmanw dyo qemata:

Prwton, xairetizw th xqesinh omofwnh apofash ths armodias Epitrophs ths Boylhs gia ton elegxo twn xrhmatisthriakwn synallagwn olwn twn boyleytwn, poy eginan thn teleytaia pentaetia. Einai gnwsto oti ayth h apofash, kata th gnwmh mas, synadei apolyta kai me tis prwtoboylies poy eixame parei kai me tis xqesines anafores gia thn anagkh elegxoy se olo to fasma toy politikoy kosmoy. Xairomaste idiaiterws giati ayth h apofash lhfqhke omofwna, pragma poy deixnei oti oloi katanohsan thn anagkaiothta tetoiwn prwtoboyliwn ston krisimo tomea ths diafaneias.

Yparxei, omws, ena qema poy anakyptei. Diabazw apo to xqesino keimeno twn dhlwsewn toy ekproswpoy ths N.D. k. Roysopoyloy: "Oi boyleytes ths N.D., opws kai oi boyleytes toy KKE kai toy SYN, exoyn hdh kataqesei sthn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs tis synallages poy exoyn sto Xrhmatisthrio me tis dhlwseis toy "poqen esxes". Ayto poy zhthse o k. Shmiths einai oysiastika kati to opoio exei hdh ginei". H sxetikh dhlwsh toy k. Roysopoyloy egine, xqes, peripoy stis 2 to meshmeri. To brady, o ekproswpos ths N.D., sthn armodia Epitroph toy "poqen esxes" ths Boylhs, phre mia diaforetikh qesh. Exoyme, loipon, tis ejhs dyo piqanothtes. H prwth, na einai barews ekteqeimenos o ekproswpos Typoy ths N.D., dioti den ton eixan enhmerwsei gia thn apofash poy qa paroyn. H piqanoterh, omws, einai h deyterh, oti h N.D. allaje th qesh ths. Ayto mas ikanopoiei idiaitera. Deixnei, omws, oti ayto to komma den kanei para mono "politikh oyras" stis prwtoboylies mas. Toso kairo arniontoysan, ta qewroysan ola dedomena. Twra, symfwnoyn. Giati; Giati kindyneyan na ekteqoyn baria se ena qema poy einai lepto, ena zhthma diafaneias, to opoio parakoloyqei olos o ellhnikos laos. Den einai oti xairomaste poy dikaiwqhkame. Einai oti, gia mia akomh fora, apodeiknyetai oti to komma ths N.D. den mporei na parei kamia prwtoboylia. Akoloyqei ws "oyra" tis dikes mas prwtoboylies kai bebaiws einai etoimo na allajei panikoblhto th qesh toy, molis diapistwsei oti ayth synanta thn antidrash toy idioy toy ellhnikoy laoy.

Deyteron, gia to qema toy ICAO -qa ekdoqei kai epishmh anakoinwsh apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn- qelw na epishmanw oti me thn apofash ayth, oxi mono katoxyrwnontai ta ellhnika symferonta, alla dhmioyrgeitai ena oikonomiko kai epixeirhsiako ofelos. Me thn prosqhkh twn newn aerodiadromwn, to FIR Aqhnwn ginetai pleon eyxrhsto kai elkystikotero ws diadromh gia tis aeroporikes etairies. H prosqhkh newn aerodiadromwn epitrepei anetoterh antimetwpish ths kykloforias kata toys Olympiakoys Agwnes kai genikotera sto mellon. H ayjhsh toy ogkoy ths kykloforias apoferei prosqeto oikonomiko ofelos. Dieykolynontai oi dieqneis diasyndeseis twn nhsiwtikwn aerodromiwn, opws ths Lhmnoy, ths Xioy kai ths Karpaqoy. Katoxyrwnetai to yparxon eswteriko diktyo aerodiadromwn ws symplhrwmatiko kai aparaithto gia thn ejyphrethsh twn anagkwn aeroporikhs epikoinwnias sthn ellhnikh epikrateia kai eidikotera sta nhsia toy Aigaioy. As mh sygxeoyme ayth th qetikh apofash me alla zhthmata poy exoyme na lysoyme me thn Toyrkia. Ayth, omws, h apofash to ICAO einai qetikh, dieykolynei, katoxyrwnei ta symferonta mas, dhmioyrgei oikonomiko kai epixeirhsiako ofelos kai etsi prepei na thn antilhfqoyme.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KALARITHS: H Toyrkia mporei na diejagei askhseis; Ths doqhke xwros gia na diejagei askhseis panw apo th Lhmno;

PRWTOPAPAS: Miloyme gia thn Politikh Aeroporia.

KALARITHS: H xrhsh, omws, twn aerodiadromwn poy toys doqhkan, qa einai aysthrws gia politikh xrhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, einai Politikh Aeroporia. O ICAO einai organo ths Politikhs Aeroporias. Den anakateyetai me alla qemata. Metexei h YPA, opws gnwrizete.

KALARITHS: Apo ena ycos kai panw mporoyn na xrhsimopoioyn eleyqera toys aerodiadromoys kai gia alles xrhseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti aytes oi ryqmiseis den sxetizontai kata kanena tropo me qemata stratiwtikhs drasthriothtas. H yparjh aerodiadromwn sto Aigaio, palaiwn kai newn, parapempei pantote sthn anagkh politikostratiwtikoy syntonismoy drasthriothtwn, symfwna me tis epitages toy ICAO, opws pagiws apaitoyme. Oi texnikes prodiagrafes twn aerodiadromwn den metaballoyn, oyte ephreazoyn thn ypoxrewsh poy emeis yposthrizoyme.

KALARITHS: Ws politikostratiwtiko syntonismo leei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti aytes oi ryqmiseis den ephreazoyn qemata stratiwtikhs drasthriothtas. H yparjh twn aerodiadromwn parapempei panta sthn anagkh politikostratiwtikoy syntonismoy drasthriothtwn. Ayto to apaitoyme emeis. Omws, oi texnikes prodiagrafes aerodiadromwn -gi@ ayto miloyme edw- den exoyn kamia sxesh me stratiwtikes drasthriothtes.

KALARITHS: Me sygxwreite, alla otan leei "politikostratiwtko syntonismo" ennoei oti qa yparxei mia synennohsh metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias gia qemata kai stratiwtikwn drasthriothtwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. H yparjh aerodiadromwn, ayth kaq@ ayth -kai twn shmerinwn eidika se tetoia zhthmata sto Aigaio- yposthrizoyme oti proypoqetei thn anagkh politikostratiwtikoy syntonismoy me thn Toyrkia. Oi texnikes prodiagrafes, omws, twn aerodiadromwn, dieqnwn kai egxwriwn, den metaballoyn, oyte ephreazoyn thn ypoxrewsh ayth poy emeis yposthrizoyme. Den allaje tipota, dhladh. Mas eixan rwthsei gia enan eidiko aerodiadromo poy eixe dhmioyrghqei to 1980, o UG 60, me monomerh energeia gia na kalycei anagkes kykloforias apo ton ICAO, dioti htan adynates oi diadikasies ICAO ejaitias ths Toyrkias. O sygkekrimenos aerodiadromos ypokaqistatai plhrws twra apo dieqnws anagnwrismenes diadromes, epomenws den exoyme kanena logo na meinoyme se monomerh energeia. Dhladh, erxetai pleon dieqnhs apofash kai ypokaqista to sygkekrimeno aerodiadromo. Exoyme, loipon, twra plhrh taytish, nomotyph olwn twn sxetikwn anagkwn poy eixame ws Ellada kai epomenws den exoyme kanena problhma na eimaste plhrws syntonismenoi me ton ICAO sta zhthmata aytoy toy aerodiadromoy.

KALARITHS: Epitrecte moy: Htan pagio aithma ths Toyrkias na katarghqei o en logw aerodiadromos panw apo th Lhmno. Ayto egine twra.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas apanthsa oti antikatastaqhke me allon kai kanoyme plhrws th doyleia mas. Den exoyme kanena problhma.

BITALHS: Yparxei kat` arxas ena qema, politiko edw k. Ekproswpe. Exoyme esas edw shmera, alla yparxei ena alaloym. Dhladh, xreiazontai dyomisi hmeres gia na anakoinwqei mia apofash, thn opoia emeis maqainoyme apo ton Toyrkiko Typo. Giati, dyomisi hmeres gia na anakoinwqei mia apofash; Poios eixe thn eyqynh ths anakoinwshs; To ypoyrgeio Metaforwn, h YPA h to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn; Giati, xqes to brady, ginotan "klwtsoskoyfi", petwntas o enas thn eyqynh ston allon gia to poios exei thn eyqynh na enhmerwsei. Poios eixe thn eyqynh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Shmera, qa yparjei analytikh enhmerwsh, me sxetikh anakoinwsh apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Hdh, sas eipa kapoia stoixeia. Den eimai eidikos. Den nomizw oti yparxei kapoio problhma.

BITALHS: Einai sebasto ayto poy lete apo thn pleyra th dikh sas, oson afora to texniko meros. Yparxei, omws, ena qema poy mporei na sas afora. Oxi sta texnika shmeia, alla sto politiko skelos: Giati dyomisi hmeres kaqysterhsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Rwthqhka, xqes, sygkentrwsa ola ta stoixeia kai shmera sas ta paraqetw. Eimai synephs se ayto. Den yparxei kanena qema. Aytes oi apofaseis anakoinwnontai, oytws h allws. Den einai kati epeigon, oytws wste amesws meta th synedriash na bgei sxetikh anakoinwsh. Einai mia apofash qetikh gia mas, kleinei oikonomika kai epixeirhsiaka qemata. Den mas dhmioyrgei kanena problhma.

BITALHS: Egw qetw alla dyo erwthmata, ligo pio texnika, ta opoia mporeite na ta apanthsete kai ayrio. Yparxei sthn termatikh perioxh Lhmnoy, 5,6 naytika milia apo tis boreies aktes ths Lhmnoy, pedio bolhs gia askhseis ths toyrkikhs aeroporias; Kai deyteron, o elegxos twn aerodiadromwn apo poion qa ginetai; Apo to FIR Aqhnwn h apo to FIR Smyrnhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Me to neo paketo, to FIR Aqhnwn qa diaqetei toys prosqetoys dieqneis aerodiadromoys kai se anwtera kai se katwtera epipeda. Ayto tonizetai kai sthn anakoinwsh toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. Einai ws dieqneis egkekrimenoi oi neoi aerodiadromoi, diaqetoyn diadromes poy ejyphretoyn tis anagkes ths nhsiwtikhs Elladas kai symplhrwnontai apo to yfistameno diktyo dieqnwn kai eswterikwn aerodiadromwn, to opoio enisxyetai kai katoxyrwnetai. To gegonos oti h Toyrkia antilhfqhke oti yparxei ena genikotero endiaferon gia th beltiwsh toy systhmatos aerodiadromwn kai enocei Olympiakwn Agwnwn, kata th gnwmh moy, einai qetiko. Den qa prepei na briskoyme pantoy problhmata. Kai h Toyrkia antilhfqhke oti exei ena problhma me th dieqnh koinothta, me to dieqnh organismo, oti yparxei anagkh na beltiwqoyn se ayth thn perioxh oi aerodiadromoi. To gegonos pantws oti apodexqhke ayto to pragma -kai qa to xarakthriza qetiko- den to sygxew, se kamia periptwsh, me ta alla zhthmata poy exoyme metajy mas.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: H symfwnia ti problepei; Oi aerodiadromoi se poio ycos dhmioyrgoyntai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eimai texnikos. Politika topoqethqhka. Apo ekei kai pera, gia ta ypoloipa qemata mporeite na apeyqynqeite sthn YPA.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: To qema poy dhmioyrgeitai, pera apo th dikh sas politikh topoqethsh, exei na kanei me tis parabiaseis twn Toyrkwn sto Aigaio. Ayto poy syzhteitai shmera, meta thn apofash ths kybernhshs, einai oti ``anebasame'' toys aerodiadromoys 3.000 podia pio chla, me apotelesma na apeleyqerwsoyme toys Toyrkoys kai na mhn ypoballoyn sxedia pthshs, poy ews twra ta zhtoysame, sta 11.000 podia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na ypogrammisoyme to gegonos oti h nea ryqmish perilambanei aerodiadromoys anagnwrismenoys kai gia xamhla ych, pragma to opoio h Toyrkia pagiws polemhse. Oi epimeroys texnikes prodiagrafes kata tmhma twn diadromwn aytwn, kinoyntai sta proyparxonta plaisia. Oson afora ton aerodiadromo poy antikaqista ton ypo katarghsh, ta katwtera ych toy analogoy tmhmatos, einai eite sto idio epipedo, opws kata to parelqon, eite 600 metra chlotera. Symplhrwnetai, omws, opws kai sto parelqon -kai ayto apanta sthn erwthsh sas- apo eswterikoys aerodiadromoys poy kalyptoyn ta xamhlotera ych. O dieqnhs aerodiadromos einai eite sto idio ycos, eite kata 600 metra ychloteros se kapoia tmhmata toy. Se ekeina ta tmhmata, omws -symfwna me ta stoixeia poy exw- symplhrwnetai apo egxwrioys aerodiadromoys, opote praktika den dhmioyrgeitai kanena problhma. Epanerxomaste sthn arxikh katastash se sxesh me ta ych. Den yfistatai kanena qema, kamia arnhtikh synepeia politikhs se sxesh me thn Toyrkia. Antiqeta h xwra enisxyetai, dieykolynetai h aeroporikh kykloforia, exoyme oikonomiko kai epixeirhsiako symferon kai ayto prepei na to antilhfqoyme.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Qa hqela mia dieykrinish: H symfwnia problepei...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai dimerhs symfwnia, einai apofash toy ICAO me th symfwnh gnwmh mas. Gi` ayto apefyga ton oro ``symfwnia''.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: H Toyrkia apodexqhke na ypoballei sxedia pthshs twn maxhtikwn aeroskafwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den allazei tipota se sxesh me ta polemika aeroplana. Oi ryqmiseis aytes den sxetizontai me kanenan tropo me qemata stratiwtikhs drasthriothtas. Den allazei tipota ston tomea ayto.

BITALHS: H YPA exei thn apoch oti ta toyrkika maxhtika poy kinoyntai entos toy FIR Aqhnwn den prepei na ypoballoyn sxedia pthshs, einai h den einai politiko qema ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi ryqmiseis aytes den sxetizontai me qemata stratiwtikhs drasthriothtas.

KARGOYDH: Ektos apo to qema toy ``poqen esxes'' anthllaghsan dhlwseis, metajy ymwn kai toy k. Roysopoyloy, gia to qema toy SDOE. Katalaba oti o k. Roysopoylos, apostellontas sas ta keimena ths omilias toy k. Karamanlh sth DEQ, opws kai to keimeno ths synenteyjhs toy, emmesws sas katalogize oti parafrazontas ton k. Karamanlh, xqes kanate mia dhlwsh qewrwntas oti o idios taxqhke yper ths katarghshs toy SDOE.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sth xqesinh moy antapanthsh -an kai den synhqizw na antapantw, toylaxiston ton teleytaio kairo ston k. Roysopoylo- qa prosejate oti gia logoys enhmerwshs ths koinhs gnwmhs parepemca aytoysio to shmeio ths omilias toy k. Karamanlh. Safws, o k. Karamanlhs, omilei gia katarghsh toy SDOE. Ayta poy grafei peri shmerinhs morfhs, den exoyn kamia ajia, dioti den leei ti allo qa kanei. Otan enas politikos, leei oti qa katarghsei enan elegktiko organismo kai den leei me ti qa ton antikatasthsei, tote o politikos aytos, pragmati, yponoei thn plhrh katarghsh toy gia logoys poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn ejyphrethsh orismenwn symferontwn. O k. Karamanlhs sth synenteyjh toy eipe oti qa katarghsei to SDOE dioti ekane elegxo se etaireia dhmoskophsewn. Den frontise, omws, na maqei -dioti panta doyleyoyn proxeira- oti ton idio kairo o SDOE eixe kanei sxedon elegxo se oles tis etaireies dhmoskophsewn. Kapoia stigmh to programma toy epebale na kanei elegxo kai se ayth thn etaireia, opws kanei stadiaka se oles tis ellhnikes etaireies. Ean o k. Karamanlhs krinei gia to an qa katarghqei h oxi o SDOE, me bash to ean ekane elegxo se etaireia thn opoia sthrize o idios h me bash to ti chfizoyn oi ypallhloi, qa prepei na paroyme ta apotelesmata twn syndikalistikwn eklogwn se oloys toys xwroys kai na doyme ti qa katarghsei o k. Karamanlhs. Gia paradeigma, fobamai oti me thn idia logikh qa katarghsei thn Eqnikh Trapeza, th DEH h kati allo. Dhladh, fqanoyme se shmeia poy pragmatika aggizoyn to geloio. Na milame gia katarghsh elegktikoy organismoy, poy prostateyei ta symferonta toy dhmosioy, toy kratoys, dioti eqije etaireia ``filh'' toy k. Karamanlh -etsi toylaxiston to ejelaba- kai dioti ta stelexh toy SDOE stis syndikalistikes ekloges chfisan mia paratajh poy den epiqymoyse o k. Karamanlhs. Erwtw: Einai sobara pragmata ayta; Qa katarghsei ta ypoyrgeia sta opoia oi ypallhloi den exoyn chfisei th syndikalistikh paratajh ths DAKE; Mporoyn na mas apanthsoyn se ayto;

KARGOYDH: Katalaba oti o k. Roysopoylos, sth xqesinh dhlwsh toy, phgaine na elafrynei th qesh toy k. Karamanlh, oti den einai akribes...

PRWTOPAPAS: Prospaqhse ek twn ysterwn na tropopoihsei th qesh. Sthn politikh, omws, meta thn apomakrynsh apo to tameio, oyden laqos anagnwrizetai h anagnwrizetai efoson omologhqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Shmera to SDOE den leitoyrgei me sygkekrimeno kybernhtiko sxedio, den kateyqynetai apo thn kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh exei thn politikh eyqynh. Oi elegxoi den kateyqynontai apo thn kybernhsh, h opoia den anameignyetai se aytoys. Qelw na diabebaiwsw oles tis ellhnikes etaireies, kai aythn thn opoia adikhse o k. Karamanlhs, anaferontas thn ws paradeigma, oti se kamia periptwsh den yparxoyn kybernhtikes parembaseis sto programma ergasiwn toy SDOE.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati phgan ston Cwmiadh, dyo hmeres prin apo tis ekloges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto htan entelws tyxaio. Den yparxoyn kybernhtikes parembaseis sto programma ergasiwn toy SDOE. Ws pros ayto, exei dwsei kaqeth entolh kai o armodios ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Xristodoylakhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Htan tyxaio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai sas plhroforw oti den mas eynohse kaqoloy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta polla ``tyxaia'' payoyn na einai tyxaia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exete adiko, den eginan alla tyxaia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Para polla tyxaia. Kai kati akomh: Lete oti o k. Karamanlhs qelei na katarghsei thn Eqnikh Trapeza.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti qelei na katarghsei kai thn Eqnikh Trapeza. Eseis qelete na thn poylhsete.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti me bash th chfo twn ypallhlwn stis syndikalistikes ekloges toys qa katargoyn Organismoys; Ara ti qa kanoyme, qa katarghsoyme thn Eqnikh Trapeza epeidh phre h PASK konta sto 50%; Ayto einai to erwthma moy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis den thn katargeite. Pate na thn poylhsete sthn ALPHA BANK. Cemata einai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exete oyte swsth enhmerwsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw, den exw swsth enhmerwsh;

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish sto prohgoymeno: Poia etaireia ennooysate;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Karamanlhs to eipe. Den akoysate th synenteyjh toy k. Karamanlh; Toylaxiston, einai gnwsto poia etaireia dhmoskophsewn, ennoei kai kathgorhse to SDOE oti dhqen phge ekei, epi toytoy. Apanta shmera o k. Mpatzelhs kai epishmainei anamesa sta alla oti "thn idia periodo poy opws isxyrizetai o k. Karamanlhs eixe ginei elegxos se sygkekrimenh etaireia dhmoskophsewn, parallhla eixan ginei elegxoi kai se alles etaireies ereynwn, opws sth METRON ANALYSIS kai sthn MRB stis 4 Oktwbrioy. Epishs, paromoioi elegxoi eginan stis etaireies ALCO, MARTINS kai th FOCUS. Kai tonizei, kleinontas, sto keimeno ths apanthshs toy: "Aytoi einai oi elegxoi poy kaname kai den exoyn sxesh me dhmoskophseis yper h kata ths N.D.. Oles oi etaireies elegxontai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den einai kommatiko stelexos o k. Mpatzelhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa sas enhmerwsw.

ALEJAKHS: Apo thn toyrkikh pleyra ebgaine ena klima aisiodojias, opws ki apo dw, oti lynontai ta problhmata, proxwrame, pame parakatw. Dedomenoy oti kai shmera yparxei o 14os gyros twn diereynhtikwn epafwn, stis opoies epafes den yparxei eparkhs enhmerwsh apo kamia pleyra kai me dedomenh mia aisiodojia poy apopneei kai o ellhnikos Typos, oti briskomaste, isws, konta sth lysh gia to qema ths yfalokrhpidas, yparxei kati neotero; Eimaste konta;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mh bgazoyme bebiasmena symperasmata. Makari, na mporoysame na symfwnhsoyme, sthrizontas bebaiws, panta ta eqnika symferonta. Omws, den exw kati tetoio ayth th stigmh kai mh bgazoyme bebiasmena symperasmata. Den exoyme kati poy na apodeiknyei ayto h to allo. Prepei, ayta ta zhthmata na ta ajiologoyme, analogws, to kaqena me th dikh toy ajia. Exei politikh ajia h xqesinh apofash gia toys aerodiadromoys; Apantw, eyqews: Exei politikh ajia, dioti kai yperaspizoyme ta eqnika symferonta, alla kai exoyme epixeirhsiaka kai oikonomika ofelh. Idiaitera de gia ta nhsia mas. Einai mia kinhsh ths Toyrkias, h opoia safws dieykolynei; Nai, einai mia kinhsh ths Toyrkias poy safws dieykolynei. Prodikazei ayto ki alles tetoies staseis ths Toyrkias; Den to jeroyme. Kai prepei, kaqe fora, oi ektimhseis mas na einai sygkekrimenes. Den exoyme kapoia allh apodeijh.

ALEJAKHS: To gegonos oti emeis ypoxwrhsame...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den ypoxwrhsame.

ALEJAKHS: Se sxesh me ta ych, giati qewroysame adiapragmateyto ta 10.000 podia, den shmainei kati kai apo th dikh mas pleyra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Katoxyrwsame, opws sas apedeija, ayto poy htan to eqniko symferon.

GARGALAKOS: Hdh daskaloi, kaqhghtes exoyn ejaggeilei apergiakes kinhtopoihseis. Jeroyme oti kai oi Panepisthmiakoi briskontai se kinhtopoihseis. Hdh exoyn jekinhsei kai oi giatroi toy ESY. Pws qa antimetwpisei h kybernhsh ayta ta diogkoymena problhmata, diaforwn koinwnikwn omadwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mh dhmioyrgoyme omws kai mia eikona, h opoia se telikh analysh den allazei se tipota apo mia analogh eikona poy yparxei panta kaqe tetoia epoxh. Opws gnwrizete, otan plhsiazoyme sthn epoxh toy Proypologismoy panta yparxoyn misqologikes diekdikhseis apo diafores epaggelmatikes tajeis. Den einai h prwth fora poy ginetai. Kai kaqe fora anaferomaste se kinhtopoihseis enocei diekdikhsewn kai se problhmatismoys gia to pws qa antimetwpisei h kybernhsh ayta ta aithmata kai telikws pantote briskontai oi lyseis. An me rwthsete omws, me poia logikh topoqetoymaste apenanti s' ayto to qema, qa epanalabw ena shmeio apo th xqesinh moy dhlwsh: Emeis ejantloyme ta pragmatika periqwria poy yparxoyn sthn oikonomia, giati qeloyme na apantoyme qetika, otan yparxoyn dikaia aithmata apo epimeroys epaggelmatikes tajeis kai omades. Ejantloyme ta periqwria mas. Alla yparxoyn kai oria. Kai den mporoyme na qesoyme se kindyno ayta poy katakthsame ston tomea ths oikonomias epi tosa xronia. Yparxei sygkekrimenh oikonomikh politikh, yparxoyn oi sygkekrimenes antoxes ths oikonomias kai mesa se ayto to plaisio kinoymaste. Eidika oson afora kaqhghtes kai daskaloys, poy einai mia poly eyaisqhth kathgoria ergazomenwn, dioti prosferoyn oysiastika ston idiaitera krisimo eqniko tomea ths paideias, qelw na pw oti doqhke mia gennaia ayjhsh, thn opoia kai oi idioi ofeiloyn na synypologisoyn.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Epeidh xqes me kathgorhsate oti den kanw eyqews erwthseis, shmera sas ypobalw eyqews thn erwthsh: O k. Mpisths synekrine thn isxyrh Ellada -opws mas leei o Prwqypoyrgos- me th Letonia. Hqela na moy peite, ean symmerizeste tis apoceis toy meloys ths kybernhshs kai yfypoyrgoy Eswterikwn kai, epishs, kati akoma: Xarakthrise amfilegomenh thn antagwnistikothta ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, o idios yfypoyrgos. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti eixa na pw gia to qema ayto to eipa xqes.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Otan ena melos ths kybernhshs sygkrinei thn Ellada me th Letonia...

PRWTOPAPAS: Apanthsa. Pantws blepw oti frontizete na ejyphreteite ta symferonta toy k. Mpisth kai ths probolhs toy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den qelw na probalw tipota. Apla anarwtiemai, ean sthn kybernhsh o k. Mpisths, o opoios metexei sta ypoyrgika symboylia, einai enhmeros, gnwrizei isws kalytera ta pragmata kai leei thn alhqeia. H leei cemata; Apanthste moy se ayto.

PRWTOPAPAS: Xqes anaferqhka analytika se ayto to qema, isws yper toy deontos.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Apokta mia idiaiterh shmasia to gegonos, epeidh einai epilogh toy k. Shmith...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti apokta kapoia idiaiterh shmasia...

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Pws blepei h kybernhsh th synanthsh Megalhs Bretanias, Germanias kai Gallias poy qa ginei ayth thn ebdomada, dedomenoy oti htan ayth poy diaxeiristhke kai thn krish sto Irak kai ta problhmata stis sxeseis Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs - Megalhs Bretanias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa krinoyme to apotelesma -oxi th synanthsh- kai qa topoqethqoyme analoga. Den mporei kaneis na apagoreysei na synantwntai metajy toys ekproswpoi twn xwrwn.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Sxetika me ta ayqaireta, den skeftetai h kybernhsh oti ``diapaidagwgei'' etsi ton kosmo san na leei ``paranomhste oso qelete, qa erqoyn oi ekloges kai qa ta broyme''.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw thn aisqhsh oti qymizoyme ``prosexws'' kinhmatografikhs tainias, poy proanaggellei ti qa doyme ayrio.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Exei diarreysei, kyrie Ypoyrge.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi apofaseis lambanontai apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai qa lhfqoyn ayrio, kata th diarkeia ths synedriashs toy. Topoqetoymai epi apofasewn kai oxi epi diarrown.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Xqes o Prwqypoyrgos synanthqhke me ton k. Kokkalh. Ws ti ton eide; Ws Proedro ths INTRAKOM, ws ekproswpo twn MME h ws ypodiko gia kataskopeia;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, kata kairoys, blepei epixeirhmaties, metoxoys, idiokthtes h dioikhtes megalwn epixeirhsewn, poy diadramatizoyn enan idiaitero rolo sthn oikonomia mas. Exei synanthqei me polloys kai den kanei diakriseis.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Oyte se ypodikoys kanei diakriseis...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti me bash to ellhniko Syntagma, oloi eimaste aqwoi mexri apodeijews toy enantioy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poioys alloys exei dei, kyrie Ypoyrge, peste mas onomata.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei synanthsei para polloys kata kairoys kai exei enhmerwqei apo anqrwpoys poy diadramatizoyn shmantiko rolo sthn ellhnikh oikonomia, thn ellhnikh koinwnia, ton politismo, tis epixeirhseis, ta MME. Den einai logiko; Den leitoyrgoyme en kenw. Prin apo kapoio xroniko diasthma eixe synanthqei, gia paradeigma, me ton k. Q. Aggelopoylo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den dinete sth dhmosiothta tis synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto to ektimoyme emeis. To periergo qa htan o Prwqypoyrgos na mhn blepei anqrwpoys apo tomeis ths dhmosias zwhs. Tote qa htan to periergo.

Sas eyxaristw.

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