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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 28 Maioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Qelw na sas qymisw oti ayrio, Pempth (29/5), stis 10.30 to prwi, anaxwrei h ellhnikh antiproswpeia gia thn Agia Petroypolh.

-Thn prwth hmera sthn ellhnikh plateia ths Agias Petroypolhs qa ginoyn ta apokalypthria toy andrianta toy Iwannh Kapodistria. Sthn teleth qa pareyriskontai kai oi dhmosiografoi.

-Thn Paraskeyh (30/5), o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei me ton hgeth ths Kinas Xoy Tsin Tao.

-To Sabbato (31/5), trith hmera ths episkechs, amesws meta th synanthsh toy Proedreyontos ths E.E. Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Shmith kai toy Proedroy ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs Romano Pronti me ton Proedro ths Rwsias Blantimir Poytin, qa doqei h synenteyjh Typoy ths Proedrias.

-Thn Kyriakh (1/6), h apostolh qa anaxwrhsei gia to Ebian.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

TAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mhpws sas exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos h mhpws gnwrizete eseis poioi einai aytoi oi epixeirhmaties oi opoioi se sympaignia me th N.D. prospaqoyn na rijoyn thn kybernhsh kai na dhmioyrghsoyn politiko qema sth xwra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Miloyn apo monoi toys. Fwnazoyn oti einai edw, arkei na qymhqeite to xrono ths epiqeshs, to periexomeno ths epiqeshs, toys foreis ths kai qa parete thn apanthsh poy zhtate. Bebaiws, otan ekanan thn prospaqeia na dhmioyrghsoyn ena noshro klima sth xwra, ena klima eswstrefeias kai apodynamwshs twn pantwn, tote emfanisthke kai h N.D. se mia prospaqeia na ekmetalleytei politika ayto to klima.

TAKHS: Afoy, loipon, toys jerete kai fwnazoyn den qa htan kalo o Prwqypoyrgos na toys katonomasei dhmosiws, oytws wste kai o ellhnikos laos na toys gnwrizei kai na toys apodokimasei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prin apo ligo, oysiastika toys katonomasa. Kai qa hqela na kanete thn idia erwthsh kai ston k. Karamanlh, poy toso kairo omilei peri diaplokhs kai kaneis den exei katalabei ti akribws ennoei.

TAKHS: O k. Karamanlhs exei katonomasei epixeirhmaties, apo o,ti jeroyme.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa kai pali oti toso kairo omilei peri diaplokhs kai kaneis den exei katalabei ti ennoei kai bebaiws otan kathgoreitai gia diaplokh apofeygei na apanthsei.

IWANNOY: To SEB ennoeite, k. Ypoyrge;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw apanthsei.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Me sygxwreite, k. Ypoyrge, alla otan kathgoreite thn Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh oti den katonomazei sygkekrimena symferonta, gia poio logo h kybernhsh den ta katonomazei, otan ta kataggellei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prin apo ligo ta katonomasa. Ean prosejete thn prwth apanthsh moy, qa deite oti katonomasa kai sas dieykolyna na ta deite ki eseis. Ta edeija, an qelete na xrhsimopoihsw mia idiaitera swsth lejh se ayth thn periptwsh.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Onomata den eipate kai to epishmainw, epeidh synhqws lete sthn Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh na pei onomata kai dieyqynseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eimai bebaios oti qa ta breite apo monh sas, arkei na koitajete tis efhmerides ths epoxhs, an h mnhmh sas den sas bohqaei.

PITTARAS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mporeite na janapeite ta onomata;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ta fwtografisa kai mporeite na xrhsimopoihsete tis fwtografies.

TAKHS: Na ypoqesoyme, dhladh, oti se ola ayta ta onomata poy se sympaignia me th N.D. epixeiroyn na rijoyn thn kybernhsh einai kai h efhmerida "AYRIANH" kai o k. Koyrhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas janadiabasw th xqesinh anafora toy Prwqypoyrgoy, poy einai xrhsimo na thn exoyme etsi epikairh mprosta mas. Dioti ta peri sympaignias k.tl. ta lete eseis. Den ta eipe o Prwqypoyrgos. O Prwqypoyrgos eipe: "Poioi krybontai pisw apo ayto to senario; Epixeirhmatika symferonta poy qeloyn na anatrecoyn thn kybernhsh. Oi pragmatika diaplegmenoi me th synthrhtikh paratajh. Aytoi poy elpizoyn oti mia fobismenh kybernhsh qa epembei se epixeirhmatikes toys kontres. Aytoi poy qeloyn h oikonomikh ejoysia na kaqorizei th leitoyrgia toy politikoy systhmatos". Alles lejeis, parakalw na mhn apodidontai ston Prwqypoyrgo. Apo ekei kai pera, ean qelete na sas epanalabw, sas eipa miloyn apo monoi toys. Fwnazoyn oti einai edw. Deite, qymhqeite, diabaste, an den to qymaste. Deite to xrono ths epiqeshs, to periexomeno ths epiqeshs, toys foreis ths, (toys opoioys oloi gnwrizoyme) kai as mhn ypokrinomaste oti den to jeroyme. Fainetai kai prepei na katalaboyme kai poia einai ta epixeirhmatika symferonta toys kai poioi oi pragmatikoi stoxoi toys. Apo ekei kai pera, otan dhmioyrghqhke ena klima, emfanisthke kai o politikos foreas ths synthrhtikhs paratajhs, h N.D., h opoia epixeirhse na ekmetalleytei thn katastash poy eixe dhmioyrghqei.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, apo ton k. Koyrh, opws eipe kai o synadelfos, den jekinhsan aytes oi kataggelies kai apo thn efhmerida "AYRIANH";

PRWTOPAPAS: Safws perilambanetai sthn apanthsh moy.

KARGOYDH: Sth xqesinh eishghsh toy, o Prwqypoyrgos ekane ena makrytato apologismo apo thn hmera ths analhchs ths ejoysias apo to PASOK. Anaferqhke, sygkekrimena, sthn periptwsh twn Imiwn, opoy parathrhse oti yphrjan kapoies dynameis, oi opoies synerghsan, an den prokalesan, thn krish, wste na adynatisei h politikh ejoysia sthn Ellada. Qelw na rwthsw, ean mporeite na mas dwsete perissoteres leptomereies. H periptwsh twn Imiwn sygkatalegetai sthn idia kathgoria epiqesewn, kata ths kybernhshs, me ayth poy shmeiwqhke prosfata;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas diabazw to sxetiko apospasma, dioti o kaqenas opws to ermhneyei -kai ennow kalopista- prosqetei lejeis kai symperasmata poy den yparxoyn: "Synedriazoyme, shmera, peripoy epta xronia meta ta Imia. Meta ta Imia polloi qewroysan oti h Ellada htan adynato na antidrasei, qa parasyrotan se mia dinh adynamias, piesewn kai ypoxwrhsewn. To antiqeto, akribws, synebh. Ayto to antiqeto, poy synebh, hqelan na apotrecoyn aytoi poy organwsan ta Imia". Ennoei, bebaiws, thn allh pleyra, thn Toyrkia, einai safes. Alla, kathgorei kai orismenoys oti elegan "twra, den mporoyme na kanoyme tipota, ola katastrafhkan, exoyme eqnikh krish". Den eixame eqnikh krish. Den einai alhqes oti den mporoysame na kanoyme tipota, oti den mporoysame na yperaspisoyme ta eqnika mas dikaia. Tipote ap@ ayta den htan akribes. Yperaspisame apolyta ta eqnika dikaia mas apenanti sthn Toyrkia, poy organwse ayth thn krish. Qymaste, bebaiws, ti elegan orismenoi kai sto eswteriko.

KARGOYDH: Qymamai poly kala k. Ypoyrge, exw makrytath mnhmh. Epeidh, omws, eseis eiste ekproswpos ths kybernhshs, einai protimotero na to aposafhnisete o idios. Ennoeite, loipon -epeidh htan mia eishghsh se kommatiko kai koinoboyleytiko akroathrio- profanws oti perilambanontai kai pleyres toy kommatos sas. @H epeidh yparxei h paraqesh twn gegonotwn, mporei na yparxoyn koina shmeia toy xqes me to shmera. Ayto prospaqw na katalabw.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora to "organwsan ta Imia" poy me rwthsate, einai safes oti ennooyntai oi tote toyrkikes parembaseis, kaqws kai kykloi sto eswteriko ths Toyrkias. Gnwrizete oti, pera apo thn epishmh kybernhsh, yphrjan toyrkikoi kykloi poy jekinhsan ayth thn istoria, oi opoioi, opws qymaste, den htan oloi epishmoi kybernhtikoi. Yphrxan tote anafores sthn Ellada oti "twra exoyme eqnikh katastrofh". Den eixame tetoia pragmata. Kai se ayto anaferqhke o Prwqypoyrgos. Den mporoyme na eimaste apolytoi kai na dhmioyrgoyme tetoia eikona. Kai epeidh, ligo prwtytera, eixe milhsei gia ton eyrwstrato gia th N.D., einai safes oti omilei kai edw gia th N.D..

TAKHS: Epeidh eipate oti h kybernhsh einai stoxos epixeirhmatikwn symferontwn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Epimenete!

TAKHS: Bebaiws. Otan o Prwqypoyrgos leei oti yparxei sxedio gia na pesei h kybernhsh, to qema einai poly shmantiko. Kai h N.D. sto parelqon eixe pei oti kai ekeinh htan stoxos symferontwn me xtyphmata panw kai katw apo th mesh, mhpws kai eseis katalabainete th N.D. kai telika ta epixeirhmatika ayta symferonta einai ta idia kai pote xtypoyn th N.D. kai pote esas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ta deijame safws shmera. Kai mporeite poly eykola na kanete tis anafores sas. Opws emeis safws ta deijame, kalo qa htan kai oi alloi na kanoyn to idio. Se telikh analysh, emeis exoyme parei sygkekrimena metra gia na antiparateqoyme me ta symferonta. Opoios qelei na mhn anameignyontai sthn politikh ta epixeirhmatika symferonta, as syzhthsei kai as synergastei mazi mas pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Eidame oti h N.D., xqes, edeije mia proqesh, opws eipe -den gnwrizoyme poso eilikrinhs einai- na to kanei. Qa exei thn eykairia na to deijei poly syntoma, an to pisteyei pragmatika.

IWANNOY: Peran ayths ths apostrofhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy, para polla kybernhtika stelexh den fanhkan ikanopoihmena apo th xqesinh topoqethsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw teleiws diaforetikh eikona.

IWANNOY: An moy epitrepete, na kataqesw th dikh moy. Milhsa me stelexh poy briskontan sth deyterologia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, kata thn opoia anaferqhke sta katasthmata "YBONNH". Elegan, loipon, oti efoson o Prwqypoyrgos apedwse olh ayth thn "idiotyph krish" ths kybernhshs sta epixeirhmatika symferonta, ara den qewrei oti yparxei kapoios logos na proxwrhsei se peraiterw allages. Ws ek toytoy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa ekane allages gia ta epixeirhmatika symferonta;

IWANNOY: Oxi. Ennow, enocei twn prwtoboyliwn gia ton Ioylio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Poia sxesh exoyn oi opoies prwtoboylies labei o Prwqypoyrgos, se ti diaplekontai -gia na xrhsimopoihsw enan oro toy syrmoy- me thn krish poy epixeirhsan na dhmioyrghsoyn prosfata ayta ta symferonta, ta opoia eidame kai deijame;

IWANNOY: Syndeontai, epeidh para polla kybernhtika kai kommatika stelexh qewroyn oti prepei na yparjoyn kai allages politikhs sthn kybernhsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Nai. Alla, "apoce qelw apodeijeis kai onomata".

IWANNOY: Nomizw oti ta gnwrizete.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto eipa molis prin, apantwntas se alles erwthseis. Kai, enw ta edeija, moy eipate oti den mporeite na ta breite. Hmoyn xqes sthn aiqoysa kai qa prosejate oti yphrje diakoph me entonotata kai paratetamena xeirokrothmata sthn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, opws egine kai sto telos. Ayto mila apo mono toy.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Apo xqes, alla kai shmera, o Proedros, alla kai koryfaia stelexh ths N.D. miloyn gia paniko toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai paralhrhma, sxoliazontas th xqesinh omilia toy sth synedriash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs kai ths Koinoboyleytikhs omadas. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, apanthse xqes o Prwqypoyrgos, sth deyterologia toy. Peran aytoy, mono to gegonos oti eixe prosdioristei topoqethsh-apanthsh toy ekproswpoy Typoy ths N.D. Q. Roysopoyloy kai thn teleytaia stigmh allaje kai egine topoqethsh toy K. Karamanlh, omilei gia to poios exei ton paniko. Mono to gegonos ayto: Se paniko briskomenos o k. Karamanlhs, prospaqhse na anebasei toys tonoys, apantwntas o idios. Giati; Giati ton peiraje h qetikh entypwsh ths parembashs toy K. Shmith. Ton peiraje h qetikh entypwsh toy PASOK, poy enwmeno, syspeirwmeno kai apofasismeno, proxwra gia th nea eklogikh nikh. Einai orismena pragmata poy miloyn apo mona toys.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Para ta xeirokrothmata poy -opws eipate ki eseis- akoysame kai htan plhqwrika sthn aiqoysa, kyriws kata th deyterologia toy Prwqypoyrgoy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai oi topoqethseis.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Kai oi topoqethseis. Ayto poy ekane entypwsh einai oti yphrjan tetoies topoqethseis apo stelexh poy dhmosiws tis prohgoymenes hmeres eixan milhsei gia apostash toy PASOK apo thn koinwnia, gia sysswreymena problhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy, gia anergia, gia ftwxeia k.lp. Qewreite oti o Prwqypoyrgos, kata th xqesinh toy omilia, edwse eparkeis kai ikanopoihtikes apanthseis, oxi sta stelexh poy perimenoyn endexomenws na ypoyrgopoihqoyn se enan anasxhmatismo h sthn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, alla sto meso Ellhna polith poy exei ta problhmata toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, na apanthsw sto yponooymeno sas: Sthn Kentrikh Epitroph toy PASOK den metexoyn mono boyleytes. Einai para polloi aytoi poy den exoyn th boyleytikh idiothta kai to gnwrizete poly kala. As mhn ypotimame ayta ta stelexh poy kaqhmerina agwnizontai gia tis idees toys kai prospaqoyn mesa sto lao. Bebaiws, o Prwqypoyrgos edwse tis dikes toy apanthseis kai xaraje thn politikh mas se ola ta metwpa. Na sas pw kai kati: O Prwqypoyrgos paradexqhke ta problhmata. Prwtos ta anagnwrise kai kalyce apolyta oloys ekeinoys poy miloysan gia thn anagkh apotelesmatikoterhs parembashs gia thn epilysh aytwn twn problhmatwn. H anergia einai to megalytero apo ayta. Blepoyme ta problhmata katamata kai eggyomaste ston ellhniko lao oti exoyme th dynamh, th qelhsh, thn apofasistikothta, me th symporeysh mas, na dwsoyme lyseis.

Epitrecte moy, me thn eykairia, na dwsw kai mia apanthsh stis prwtes dhlwseis poy ekanan ejerxomena ths Rhgillhs stelexh ths N.D. gia to qema ths oikonomias. Exw dei tis dhlwseis toy k. Alogoskoyfh, tis dhlwseis toy k. Paylopoyloy kai kapoies alles dhlwseis. Fantazomai oti se ligo qa yparjoyn kai epishmes dhlwseis toy k. Roysopoyloy, poy eikazw oti qa einai sthn idia kateyqynsh me tis dhlwseis poy hdh exoyn ginei.

Gia mia akomh fora kai sth shmerinh topoqethsh ths, h N.D. qysiazei to kaqhkon ths ws ypeyqynh antipoliteysh sth logikh twn entypwsewn, toy laikismoy kai toy ephreasmoy twn dhmoskophsewn poy diejagontai ayto ton kairo. Den distazei na yponomeyei to klima, poy einai toso aparaithto se mia epoxh dyskolh gia thn pagkosmia oikonomia, se mia epoxh poy krinetai h antagwnistikothta kai h poreia ths antagwnistikothtas ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Emeis dinoyme ayth th maxh. H N.D. den distazei me genikologies, aoristies kai laikismo, sto bwmo mikrokommatikwn symferontwn, na yponomeyei to klima sthn oikonomia. Kai ayto einai mia megalh eyqynh poy analambanei. Kai bebaiws, paroysiazontas plasta mia gkriza eikona, xwris h idia na proteinei tipota. Poies einai oi qeseis ths; Poio telika einai to programma ths; Dyskola qa to pei. Kai jerete giati; Dioti sthn oysia yioqetei tis pio akraies synthrhtikes antilhceis, analoges me aytes poy prosfata ejefrasan epixeirhmatikoi kykloi. Ayth einai h oysia ths politikhs ths.

Qelw na tonisw, oti kai sto qema ayto, opws kai sta qemata poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn apasxolhsh, tis ergasiakes sxeseis, anadeiknyontai oi sygxrones, oi shmerines diaxwristikes grammes poy xwrizoyn to PASOK apo th synthrhtikh paratajh. Nai, exoyme politikes diafores. Nai, den eimaste idioi. Nai, exoyme allh politikh. Kai emeis th deixnoyme sthn prajh kai prospaqoyme na th feroyme se peras, lynontas ta problhmata. Einai wra h N.D. na mas pei, telika, ti apoceis exei gia thn oikonomia, ti apoceis exei gia thn koinwnia, ti mellon epifylassei, kata thn apoch ths bebaiws, gia toys ergazomenoys. Qa yioqethsei tis akraies neo-synthrhtikes antilhceis; Qa yioqethsei ayta poy anaferontai se apeleyqerwsh agoras kai apeleyqerwsh apolysewn, aytoys poy qeloyn na enapoqesoyn tis tyxes toy ayrio stis anejelegktes dynameis ths agoras; As afhsei ta genikologa. Einai wra gia lyseis, gia qeseis, gia politikes. Ta krokodeilia dakrya, otan yparxei to problhma, den peiqoyn kai den arkoyn se kanenan.

TAKHS: Mias kai eipate gia xeirokrothmata, fantazomai oti den qa symmerizeste ayto poy grafei shmera o ``mikropolitikos'' sta NEA, oti htan apotelesma mprosta sto ``shmitiko tromo'', enocei toy anasxhmatismoy toy Ioylioy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, ayta ta stelexh proerxontai mesa apo thn koinwnia kai exoyn dwsei polloys agwnes. Kai oxi mono ayto, alla jerete poly kala oti qeloyn na synexisoyn na dinoyn aytoys toys agwnes gia thn paratajh toys, thn politikh toys kai ton kosmo poy ekfrazoyn. Mhn epixeirei kaneis na ta ypotimhsei. Diaprattei terastio laqos. Politika, opws exoyn apodeijei, jeroyn poly kalytera apo ton kaqena -giati einai apo ta kalytera stelexh poy isws, ws aqroisma, diaqetei to opoiodhpote politiko komma, ayth th stigmh, sthn Ellada- kai etsi mporoyn na kanoyn poly kala th doyleia toys. Epipleon, exoyn th dynamh, th qelhsh kai thn apofasistikothta na feroyn se peras to ergo toys, enwpion toy ellhnikoy laoy. Apo kei kai pera, qelw na tonisw kai pali oti ta perissotera melh ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs den einai boyleytes.

GARGALAKOS: Qelw na sas rwthsw gia thn paroysia kai thn prosfwnhsh toy Proedroy ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Tasoy Papadopoyloy, poy apo polloys qewrhqhke akomch h paroysia toy se mia kommatikh ekdhlwsh, estw kai ean ayth einai toy kybernwntos kommatos. Exete ep` aytoy kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto synhqizetai se olh thn Eyrwph, pro hmerhsias diatajews. Dioti h paroysia toy k. Papadopoyloy htan prin arxisei h hmerhsia diatajh ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs. Synhqizetai na ginontai kapoies eidikes ekdhlwseis, otan yparxei ena para poly sobaro qema. Kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, o k. Papadopoylos den phge ekei gia na kanei genikes anafores. Phge gia na enhmerwsei ta stelexh toy kybernwntos kommatos gia ena meizon eqniko qema, opws einai to Kypriako. Fantazomai oti, ean analogh prosklhsh toy eixe apeyqynei h N.D, profanws qa to ekane. O k. Papadopoylos phge ws ekproswpos toy kypriakoy laoy, ws Proedros ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias, gia na enhmerwsei apeyqeias, o idios -ti to kalytero;- ta stelexh enos poly megaloy kai kybernwntos sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh kommatos, gyrw apo to prwto eqniko zhthma poy antimetwpizoyme shmera. Etsi prepei na to doyme.

GARGALAKOS: O k. Paylopoylos dhlwse shmera oti qelei-den qelei o k. Shmiths qa syrqei to fqinopwro se ekloges. Ayto qa to sxoliasete;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Paylopoylos synhqws peftei ejw stis probleceis toy. Ayto den einai h prwth fora poy to blepoyme. Me thn idia eykolia poy orismenes fores allazei tis qeseis toy, me thn idia eykolia peftei kai ejw stis probleceis toy. Ton diabebaiwnw oti den qa ginoyn ekloges to fqinopwro. Kai ean epimenei, se ayth thn periptwsh, mporoyme na krathsoyme to gegonos, gia na bgaloyme ta symperasmata mas. Qa hqela na to krathsete.

TAKHS: Se synexeia ths prwths erwthshs toy k. Gargalakoy, gia ton k. Papadopoylo, mhpws qelete na sxoliasete ayto poy eipe stis kameres ston k. Karamanlh, pws blepei oti paei kala mesw twn dhmoskophsewn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Na sxoliasw ti eipe o k. Papadopoylos ston k. Karamanlh; Einai dynaton na sxoliazw ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias;

TAKHS: Epeidh yphrje apo pleyras stelexwn ths N.D. mia moyrmoyra gia to qema ths paroysias toy sthn K.E. toy PASOK, polloi lene oti prospaqhse na ejisorrophsei ta pragmata, legontas mprosta stis kameres ston k. Karamanlh, oti paei kala stis dhmoskophseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Emeis den kanoyme tetoia pragmata. Sebomaste toys qesmoys kai ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias. Ean kapoioi den sebontai, dikos toys logariasmos.

ARMENHS: Pws akoysate th qesh toy k. Mhtsotakh oti qa eprepe oi ypoqeseis toy Xrhmatisthrioy kai toy Swkrath Kokkalh na exoyn anateqei se efeth anakrith kai oxi se aplo anakrith;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto den afora thn kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete. O k. Mhtsotakhs to gnwrizei, alla prepei na to gnwrizete ki eseis, oti den epilegei h kybernhsh se poion qa anaqesei mia anakrish.

ARMENHS: Th qesh toy zhtw na sxoliasete.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den epilegei h kybernhsh kai to gnwrizei poly kala o k. Mhtsotakhs, dioti einai apo toys ejexontes politikoys ths xwras, se poion qa anateqei mia anakrish.

Sas eyxaristw.

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