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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 20 Febroyarioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dieykrinisthke telika ti akribws eipe o Proedros ths Boylhs; Rwtw, giati nomizw oti me to paramikro anaptyssetai mia neyrikh krish mesa sto xwro toy PASOK.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme neyrikh krish, oyte problhma gyrw apo ayta ta qemata. H epanalhch twn idiwn qematwn poy exoyn hdh apanthqei, se ligo qa einai sth sfaira toy asteioy, den qa apantwntai politika. Epikoinwnhsa me ton Proedro ths Boylhs, den yparxei kanena qema. Den briskw to logo giati na synexistei ayth h syzhthsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ws gnwston menoyn oktw hmeres mexri to telos toy xronodiagrammatos poy exei qesei o k. Anan (dhladh thn 28 Febroyarioy) gia na breqei lysh sto Kypriako. O k. Anan episkeptetai, stis 23 Febroyarioy, thn Toyrkia, erxetai sthn Aqhna kai sth synexeia phgainei sth Leykwsia, opoy menei treis meres. Malista, metaferei kai to perifhmo trito anaqewrhmeno Sxedio Anan. O Prwqypoyrgos eixe mia synanthsh me to k. Anan stis Bryjelles. Ti eyelpisteite apo ola ayta; Ti mporei na prokycei kai malista me ton neo Proedro ths Kyproy ton k. Papadopoylo; Nomizete oti mporoyme na odhghqoyme se lysh h se adiejodo;

PRWTOPAPAS: H qesh mas einai safhs. Yparxoyn ola ta periqwria, sto plaisio ths diadikasias twn diapragmateysewn, gia na fqasoyme se lysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy. Mia lysh biwsimh kai dikaih sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE. Ta periqwria gia to skopo ayto kai to syntonismo twn parembasewn ths ellhnikhs kai kypriakhs pleyras, yparxoyn kai shmera. Ws gnwston, qa ginei th Deytera h synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton neoeklegenta Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Taso Papadopoylo. Eimaste staqera sthn idia kateyqynsh. Qa synergastoyme me ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias kai me thn kybernhsh toy. Pisteyw oti qa ajiopoihqoyn -den prepei na tis xasoyme- oi dynatothtes poy yparxoyn gia thn epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O k. Shmiths eide kai ton k. Gkioyl, ean den kanw laqos, stis Bryjelles. Mhpws apo ekei bgainei kati;

PRWTOPAPAS: Me ton k. Gkioyl syzhthqhke mono h anagkh epitaxynshs twn diadikasiwn gia th syzhthsh toy systhmatos eggyhshs kai asfaleias.

KALARITHS: Ean moy epitrepete, k. Ypoyrge, h kybernhsh exei apofasisei ean telika tassetai yper h kata enos deyteroy chfismatos toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE h ta afhnei ola anoikta; Kai deyteron, ean einai se gnwsh ths kybernhshs plhrofories poy blepoyn shmera to fws ths dhmosiothtas se orismenes efhmerides, gia kyklwma diakinhshs radienergwn ylikwn mesa apo thn Aqhna, mesa apo thn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kanena kyklwma -toylaxiston poy na gnwrizei h ellhnikh kybernhsh- diakinhshs radienergwn ylikwn mesa apo thn Ellada. Pote den qa ginotan kati tetoio. Oson afora to prwto qema poy qesate, ean krinei to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE oti prepei na ekdwsei kai deytero chfisma, qa to kanei. Omws, gia na ginei ayto, shmainei oti mporei, pleon, na apofasisei oristika poies qa einai oi diadikasies poy qa akoloyqhsoyme se o,ti afora thn krish sto Irak. Kai gia na ekdoqei ena chfisma -opws gnwrizete- prepei na yparxei eyryterh symfwnia. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti kai to ``beto'', mporei na teqei apo opoiadhpote pleyra. Ean, loipon, yparjei mia symfwnia sto Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE kai bgei ena deytero chfisma, ayto shmainei praktika oti qa exoyme mia apofash ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas, h opoia qa desmeyei oloys mas. Qewrhtika ayth einai h bash. Ean twra rwtate, ti qa ginei me th diadikasia, se o,ti afora thn krish sto Irak, qelw na ypogrammisw kai pali, oxi mono th xqesinh apofash, h opoia egine eymenws apodekth apo to synolo sxedon toy eyrwpaikoy Typoy me pragmatika idiaitera epainetika sxolia gia ton Prwqypoyrgo kai gia thn prwtoboylia ths ellhnikhs Proedrias , alla kai oti pera apo ayth thn apofash prowqoyntai, hdh, prwtoboylies apo ton Ellhna ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Giwrgo Papandreoy. Prowqoyntai protaseis kai pros to Symboylio Asfaleias, poy mporei na exoyn na kanoyn, gia paradeigma, me epimeroys qemata-erwthmata, en eidei deiktwn, sta opoia prepei na topoqethqei to Irak, wste na gnwrizei kai h Dieqnhs Koinothta, pws akribws kineitai kai pws dieykolynetai to ergo twn Epiqewrhtwn. Yparxoyn kai ta anoigmata stis syzhthseis poy exoyn ginei me ton Arabiko Syndesmo, dedomenoy oti exoyn prosklhqei kai o proedreywn kai o grammateas toy, stis diadikasies ths Deyteras, sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn. Lambanontai prwtoboylies kai synexizetai h prospaqeia apo thn pleyra ths ellhnikhs Proedrias. Oloi prepei na analaboyn tis dikes toys eyqynes. H apofash epanefere thn Eyrwph se mia eniaia stash. Anoije ena paraqyro sthn eirhnh. Einai wra kai to Irak na synergastei plhrws me toys Epiqewrhtes toy OHE, prokeimenoy na dromologhqoyn kalytera oi synqhkes gia eirhnikh yperbash ths krishs.

FILHS: To teleytaio diasthma yparxei mia diplwmatikh kinhtikothta, oxi kata toy Irak, alla pros to Irak. Anaferomai sthn episkech apestalmenwn toy Papa, poy eixe synomilies me to Santam Xoysein, kaqws, epishs, kai me thn episkech toy Antiproedroy toy Irak Tarek Aziz, sto Batikano poy eixe synomilies me ton Papa kai alles dynameis, poy den einai amigws politikes, einai perissotero dynameis hqikopolitikes kai qrhskeytikes. H ellhnikh kybernhsh kai h ellhnikh Proedria pws blepoyn to rolo toys; Aplws na apeyqynoyn proeidopoihseis kai kata enan tropo apeiles pros ton Santam Xoysein h na analaboyn kai mia prwtoboylia, ekei sth Bagdath, diapragmateyshs gia thn epilysh ths krishs me diplwmatiko tropo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, gnwrizete oti to qema to xeirizetai, kata kyrio logo, to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE. Ekei prepei kai ekei qa lhfqoyn oi opoies apofaseis. Qa einai traymatiko gia th Dieqnh Koinothta na kinhqei kapoios monos toy. Ypenqymizw oti h ellhnikh Proedria den ejantlei tis prwtoboylies ths sthn apofash ths E.E., h opoia oyte dedomenh htan mexri proxqes, oyte eykolh yphrje, htan apotelesma ypeyqynhs kai systhmatikhs doyleias. Yparxoyn prosqetes prwtoboylies poy ekdhlwqhkan apo ton Ellhna ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn: H mia exei na kanei me thn topoqethsh sygkekrimenwn qematwn, en eidei deiktwn, wste na gnwrizoyme pws poreyetai to ergo twn Epiqewrhtwn kai ean poreyetai ikanopoihtika. Kai h deyterh exei na kanei me prwtoboylies pros ton Arabiko Syndesmo. Den einai tyxaies oi prwtoboylies pros ton Arabiko Syndesmo. Gnwrizete oti yparxei epafh me ola ta arabika krath. Otan, loipon, synomileis me ton arabiko syndesmo, exeis th dynatothta na dhmioyrgeis diayloys epikoinwnias gia mia seira qematwn, me oles tis arabikes xwres kai bebaiws, mesw aytwn kai me to Irak. Einai, loipon, mia nea prwtoboylia pros thn kateyqynsh ths eirhnikhs epilyshs sto plaisio toy chfismatos 1441 toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE. Ayth th stigmh, den mporw na proanaggeilw alles prwtoboylies. Exoyme, hdh, pei dyo. Qa ejelixqoyn. Ti allo qa kanoyme; Einai sigoyro oti qa yparxoyn synexeis prwtoboylies pros oles tis kateyqynseis, opws kai mexri twra ginetai.

FILHS: Poioi einai oi deiktes poy qa teqoyn sto Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE pros ton Santam Xoysein;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yphrje mia endeiktikh anafora, xqes, apo ton k. Papandreoy. Qa yparjei kai analytikoterh, otan ekdhlwqei plhrws ayth h prwtoboylia.

FILHS: Mporeite na ginete ligo pio sygkekrimenos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kalytera na perimenoyme thn anakoinwsh toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn.

FILHS: Prohgoymeno chfisma toy Symboylioy Asfaleias miloyse, ws protash pros to kaqestws ths Bagdaths, gia to endexomeno arshs twn kyrwsewn toy empargko, ean symmorfwqei to kaqestws pros ta metra poy qetei o OHE. Isxyei ayto to chfisma; Einai energo sth diplwmatikh diapragmateysh shmera h pame synexws th belona pros thn pleyra toy polemoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: To prwto zhthma poy proexei shmera einai na synergastei plhrws o Santam me toys epiqewrhtes toy OHE. Ean yparjei sth dieqnh koinothta h aisqhsh mias tetoias plhroys synergasias kai plhroys afoplismoy toy Irak apo opla mazikhs katastrofhs, na eiste bebaioi oti anoigei o dromos gia genikoteres ejelijeis. Ayto einai to prwto zhthma kai ekei prepei na strecoyme to endiaferon mas.

FILHS: H apofash twn "15", proxqes stis Bryjelles, anaferetai sth sygkentrwsh amerikanikwn kai bretanikwn strateymatwn sthn perioxh poy ginetai me monomerh tropo, me apofash twn dyo aytwn xwrwn kai qewrei oti, me tetoio tropo, synteloyn ws piesh sthn epilysh toy problhmatos. Hqela na rwthsw, ean h apeilh xrhsh bias -poy tetoia einai ayth h istoria- kata thn ellhnikh kybernhsh kai kata toys "15", synista ena neo stoixeio askhshs ths dieqnoys politikhs kai an einai mesa sto plaisio toy Katastatikoy Xarth toy OHE.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw pei, kat@ epanalhch, oti oles oi kinhseis -ayth einai h gnwmh mas kai ayto epidiwkoyme- prepei na ginoyn mesw toy OHE kai oxi ws memonwmenes kinhseis epimeroys kratwn. Giati, tote, qa arxisei mia syzhthsh gyrw apo ti eidoys Dieqnes Dikaio exoyme. To Dieqnes Dikaio prepei na exei na kanei me oles tis diadikasies poy epiballei o Katastatikos Xarths toy OHE kai me tis apofaseis toy idioy toy OHE. Etsi mporoyme na pame syntetagmena sthn kateyqynsh epibolhs toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy kai oxi me memonwmenes kinhseis. Dioti, memonwmenes kinhseis mporei na apofasizei kaqenas, opws ton symferei, alla se kamia periptwsh den yparxei h bebaiothta stoys laoys oti aytes oi kinhseis yphretoyn to Dieqnes Dikaio. Aytos einai o logos poy kanoyme tis prospaqeies sthn E.E. kai bebaiws, panw ap@ ola, ston OHE.

FILHS: H sygkentrwsh strateymatwn sthn perioxh apo toys Amerikanoys kai toys Bretanoys ginetai me monomerh tropo. Aytes oi energeies synistoyn h oxi apeiles xrhshs bias kai an nai, einai sto plaisio twn diplwmatikwn prwtoboyliwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas apanthsa prin kai hmoyn safhs.

FILHS: Yparxei epistolh toy kaqhghth B. Aggelopoyloy, shmera ston Typo, sthn opoia afhgeitai ta osa ypesth ws Ellhnas kai Eyrwpaios poliths, xwris kanena stoixeio enantion toy, apo to FBI sto aerodromio ths N. Yorkhs. Qa hqela ena sxolio, dioti to qema jefeygei apo thn proswpikh periptwsh toy k. Aggelopoyloy. Afora enan Ellhna polith. Synepws, qa hqela mia epishmh stash ths ellhnikhs pleyras.

PRWTOPAPAS: H ellhnikh pleyra exei, hdh, parembei, apo to Sabbato. To exw anakoinwsei. O projenos mas sth N. Yorkh k. Plaths, molis plhroforhqhke to sxetiko epeisodio, zhthse enhmerwsh kai odhgies apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Amesws doqhke entolh apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn kai proebh stis sxetikes energeies. Ekane oles tis anagkaies kinhseis, wste na parasxei th sxetikh projenikh syndromh. Parenebh pros tis amerikanikes arxes gia ta dikaiwmata toy Ellhna polith. Yphrje, loipon, amesh antapokrish apo tis ellhnikes projenikes arxes, amesws molis plhroforhqhkan to epeisodio, gia thn plhrh prostasia toy Ellhna polith.

FILHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, an yparxei kanena politiko sxolio, pera apo tis diplwmatikes energeies.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete, h ellhnikh kybernhsh parembainei kai prostateyei toys Ellhnes polites poy briskontai sto ejwteriko kai antimetwpizoyn paromoies katastaseis. Sto epeisodio, opws gnwrizete, parenebh amesws o projenos mas, meta apo odhgies toy ellhnikoy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. O projenos edwse thn anagkaia projenikh syndromh, parenebh stis amerikanikes arxes kai prostateyse ton Ellhna polith. Ayth htan h apanthsh mas sto problhma poy dhmioyrghqhke. Pisteyw oti ayth thn apanthsh qa edine opoiadhpote ypeyqynh kybernhsh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: To FBI kai oi amerikanikes arxes kanoyn tis dikes toys ereynes gia th 17N;

PRWTOPAPAS: Tis ereynes, opws gnwrizete, gia th 17N tis kanoyn oi ellhnikes arxes. Bebaiws, oi ellhnikes arxes eixan synennohqei kai me amerikanikes kai me bretanikes arxes asfaleias, oi opoies synebalan -me to diko toys tropo, bebaiws- sthn enisxysh twn ereynwn. Alla, ypeyqynes gia tis ereynes einai mono oi ellhnikes arxes.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ara, oi amerikanikes arxes exoyn dwsei kapoio stoixeio gia ton k. Aggelopoylo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw otidhpote gyrw ap@ ayto.

KAKOS: Exete kapoio sxolio gia to shmerino prwtoselido dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas AYRIANH, symfwna me to opoio yparxoyn sygkekrimenes kataggelies gia sygkekrimenes etaireies kai gia ton tropo poy leitoyrghsan, se sxesh me to Xrhmatisthrio Aqhnwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oles oi kataggelies exoyn teqei ypoch twn armodiwn arxwn kai aytes ws exoyn ypoxrewsh (eite einai eisaggelikes gia mhnyseis, eite alloy typoy kataggelies gia th xrhmatagora) qa tis diereynhsoyn. Einai ypoxrewsh twn armodiwn arxwn na diereynhsoyn oles tis kataggelies kai tis mhnythries anafores.

KAKOS: Oi kataggellomenoi ferontai na einai kai idiokthtes sygkekrimenwn MME.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqe kataggelia poy afora qema, to opoio endiaferei thn ellhnikh koinwnia kai thn ellhnikh oikonomia, qa diereynhqei. Ej oswn gnwrizw, exoyn ginei mhnythries anafores ston eisaggelea, alla yparxoyn kai shmerines kataggelies. Mas afora na kanoyn oi armodies arxes th doyleia toys. Kai ayto qa ginei.

FILHS: Grafetai oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh qa zhthsei kapoia oikonomikh bohqeia apo thn Komision, prokeimenoy na antepejelqei sto aproblepto ths kakokairias poy plhttei th xwra mas. Isxyei oti to ycos twn zhmiwn poy anaferontai shmera ston Typo anerxetai se 400 ews 600 dis draxmes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ejaitias ths kakokairias shmeiwqhkan para poly megales zhmies sthn paragwgh mas kai se alloys tomeis. Gia ta zhthmata ayta qa yparjoyn sxetikes energeies toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn, gia tis opoies qa enhmerwqeite. Opws gnwrizete, yparxoyn diadikasies sthn E.E. poy problepoyn enisxyseis kai se ayto to plaisio kinoymaste. Mhn pisteyete oti kanoyme kati, to opoio den dikaioymaste. Qa zhthsoyme o,ti dikaioymaste.

PITTARAS: Epeidh eipate oti den yparxei kapoio qema kai milhsate me ton Proedro ths Boylhs, wstoso synergates toy k. Kaklamanh dierrean h meteferan, an qelete, th dysforia toy gia thn apanthsh sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epikoinwnhsa me ton Proedro ths Boylhs, o opoios brisketai sthn India, milhsa mazi toy kai den yparxei kanena qema.

BITALHS: Mhpws, o k. Kaklamanhs, sthn thlefwnikh sas epikoinwnia, sas dieykrinise an htan asteismos ayto poy eipe h oti den ekane aytes tis dhlwseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: To qema exei kleisei.

PITTARAS: Dhladh, den eipe o k. Kaklamanhs oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai kalyteros apo ton k. Mpler h ton k. Sirak;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanalambanw oti to qema exei kleisei. Mhn epixeiroyme na dhmioyrgoyme problhmata ekei poy den yparxoyn.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Qa hqela mia dieykrinish, sxetika me to qema toy kaqhghth k. Aggelopoyloy. Eipate oti eginan ta aparaithta diabhmata, oi aparaithtes diplwmatikes energeies. Kat` arxas, qa hqela na sas rwthsw an o k. Aggelopoylos eixe apasxolhsei tis ellhnikes astynomikes arxes, kata thn ereyna poy ginotan gia th "17N", dhladh an exei kataqesei, oxi mesw HPA, stis ellhnikes arxes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw. Den einai qema ths politikhs enhmerwshs.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Qa hqela, epishs, na sas rwthsw, ean h ellhnikh kybernhsh katadikazei ayto to peristatiko.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw, hdh, topoqethqei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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