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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 19 Febroyarioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Epistrecame apo thn, opws ejelixqhke, "atyph Synodo" twn Bryjellwn. Exete, hdh, plhroforhqei th shmantikh eqnikh epityxia, h opoia yphrje th Deytera to brady, me thn katalhjh apo toys 15 hgetes twn xwrwn-melwn ths E.E. se ena keimeno, opws, epishs kai thn yparjh kai mias allhs symfwnias, thn epomenh, me thn ekdosh analogoy keimenoy, me tis 13 ypo entajh xwres.

Qewroyme oti meta apo aytes tis ejelijeis, mporoyme na poyme oti, gia mia akomh fora, h Eyrwph apodeiknyei oti mporei na orqwnei to anasthma ths, na antapokrinetai stis prosdokies twn lawn ths, na exei mia koinh stash stis ejelijeis, na mporei na ephreasei tis ejelijeis. Elpizoyme oi apofaseis aytes na symbaloyn qetika sth dhmioyrgia ekeinoy toy klimatos poy qa eggyhqei oti, me eirhniko tropo kai mesa apo ton afoplismo toy Irak, qa mporesoyme na jeperasoyme thn krish. Oi laoi qeloyn eirhnh. O Santam Xoysein prepei na apodexqei ton plhrh afoplismo apo opla mazikhs katastrofhs. To Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE, me to ergo twn Epiqewrhtwn, mporei na eggyhqei oti den qa yparjei kamia apeilh sto mellon gia thn anqrwpothta kai oti qa parameinoyme staqera sto dromo ths eirhnhs.

Qa tolmhsw, epishs na pw oti diaceysthkan oiktra oloi ekeinoi poy otan o Kwstas Shmiths, ws proedreywn toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, anelabe ayth thn prwtoboylia, ypeqesan oti qa apotyxei, oti den qa exei kapoia sygkekrimenh apodosh h oti, en pash periptwsei, einai mia katadikasmenh istoria kai oti h Eyrwph den mporei na brei to diko ths dromo. H epilogh ayth toy Prwqypoyrgoy dikaiwqhke plhrws. Me epimonh, ypomonh kai politiko stoxo, badizoyme se ena dromo poy exei anabaqmisei idiaitera thn ellhnikh Proedria sthn E.E. Exei dwsei ta xarakthristika mias Proedrias, h opoia parembainei stis ejelijeis, diamorfwnei tis ejelijeis, paragei prwtoboylies kai gegonota kai mporei, bebaiws, na ajiopoieitai dieqnws, apo olh th dieqnh koinothta, sthn kateyqynsh epilyshs twn problhmatwn. Kai ayto einai mia shmantikh eqnikh epityxia poy oloi ofeiloyme na anagnwrisoyme.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PITTARAS: Meta thn eytyxh katalhjh ths Synodoy Koryfhs, mhpws anoigei akomh perissotero o dromos gia thn piqanh metaphdhsh toy k. Shmith se ena eyrwpaiko posto, opws eipe o k. Kaklamanhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, den qa prepei na ``xrhsimopoioyme'' ton Proedro ths Boylhs etsi eykola. Diabasa ki egw kapoia plhroforia poy hrqe apo thn India. Den jerw kan ean eipwqhke kati tetoio, alla kai katw apo poies synqhkes piqanon kati na lexqhke, xwris omws ayto na exei opoiadhpote sxesh me ayta poy apodoqhkan. Den yparxei kanena qema, se sxesh me ton Proedro ths Boylhs. Apo kei kai pera, fantazomai oti orismenoi eixan kallierghsei ton teleytaio kairo mia fhmologia, mia senariologia, oti dhqen o Prwqypoyrgos qa apoxwrhsei gia ton alfa h to bhta logo. H apanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy hrqe apo tis Bryjelles kai edwse me ton pio safh tropo ena telos se ayta ta senaria. ``Einai oneira qerinhs nyktos'' eipe o Prwqypoyrgos. Qa mporoysa na to parallajw kai na pw ``oneira xeimerinhs nyktos'' giati ayth th stigmh xionizei ejw! Katalabete to kala: O Kwstas Shmiths qa oloklhrwsei to ergo, qa ferei se peras thn entolh poy toy edwse o ellhnikos laos kai qa einai o epikefalhs toy PASOK kai stis epomenes ekloges, diekdikwntas kai th nea nikh.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mhpws einai stis proqeseis toy k. Shmith na enhmerwsei toys politikoys arxhgoys gi aytes tis ejelijeis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Hdh enhmerwnei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, opws gnwrizete. Qa enhmerwqoyn, pantws, kai ta politika kommata. Ejalloy, exei proklhqei kai mia pro hmerhsias diatajhs syzhthsh sth Boylh gia to qema twn energeiwn ths ellhnikhs Proedrias, se sxesh me thn krish sto Irak. Ara, oytws h allws, me ton opoio tropo epilejei o Prwqypoyrgos, qa yparjei kai syzhthsh kai enhmerwsh twn politikwn kommatwn.

ANTYPAS: Epeidh sth sygkyria poy briskomaste to meizon profanws den einai oyte na epibebaiwqei o rolos ths Eyrwphs, oyte na katagracei kapoies epityxies h ellhnikh Proedria, alla na apofeyxqei o polemos. Me bash ayto to skeptiko, qelw na sas rwthsw, ean yparxei istoriko prohgoymeno h ean yparxoyn twra kapoioi eidikoi paragontes, poy ena kratos afoplisthke, epeidh ayto toy zhthqhke apo ena tmhma ths dieqnoys koinothtas. Dhladh, sas rwtw poy basizete thn aisiodojia sas oti, meta apo thn apofash ths Deyteras, h Eyrwph qa ayjhsei to rolo ths sth dieqnh koinothta;

PRWTOPAPAS: H Eyrwph, ek twn pragmatwn, anabaqmizei to rolo ths sth dieqnh koinothta. Otan 15 eyrwpaikes xwres-melh ths E.E. kai 13 ypo entajh xwres enwnoyn th fwnh toys se mia eniaia strathgikh, einai ena megalo dieqnes gegonos, poy afora oloklhrh th dieqnh koinothta. O idios o Kofi Anan htan parwn sth syskech kai einai safes oti polles xwres-melh ths E.E. metexoyn kai sto Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE, idiaitera ypo th shmerinh synqesh toy. Gnwrizete poly kala oti, ek twn pragmatwn, ephreazetai h poreia kai ths dieqnoys koinothtas se ayto to meizon qema. Den gnwrizoyme ean prokeitai telika na ginei h oxi polemos, dioti ayto exei sxesh kai me tis epiloges toy Irak. Ekeino, omws, poy dianoigetai einai h porta ths eirhnhs. Yparxei diejodos gia thn eirhnh. Den einai anapofeyktos o polemos. Ayto einai to mhnyma. As frontisei kai o Santam Xoysein, as frontisei kai to Irak na peisei th dieqnh koinothta oti proxwrhse se afoplismo apo ta opla mazikhs katastrofhs, oti den yparxoyn pia biologika h xhmika opla kai oti exei stenh kai plhrh synergasia me toys epiqewrhtes toy OHE. Ayth einai kai h eyqynh poy prepei na analaboyn apenanti sth dieqnh koinothta. Ayto zhta to chfisma 1441 toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE.

ARGYROS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dyo erwthseis: H prwth einai ean apo tis epafes stis Bryjelles proekyce kapoio neo stoixeio gia to eperxomeno Sxedio Anan;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den exei prokycei kapoio neo stoixeio. Yphrje, opws jerete, epafh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai me ton k. Anan kai me ton Proedro ths Kyproy k. Klhridh. Den proekyce, omws, kati sygkekrimeno gia to ti qa periexei, ean telika epilejei o k. Anan na kataqesei to ``trito Sxedio''. O k. Anan jekaqarise oti epiqymei, opws epiqymoyme ki emeis ejalloy, na doqei lysh sto politiko problhma ths Kyproy. Epiqymei na proxwrhsei me grhgora bhmata ayth h diadikasia. Omws, tis telikes apofaseis toy gia tis prwtoboylies poy endexomenws qa analabei, (tis opoies den mporoyme na apokleisoyme kai qelw na to katasthsw safes ayto) qa tis apofasisei meta tis epafes kai tis synomilies poy qa exei, toso sthn Agkyra kai sthn Aqhna, oso kai -kyriws malista- me th nea kypriakh hgesia, dhladh ton Proedro poy analambanei apo thn 1h Martioy, k. Taso Papadopoylo.

ARGYROS: Mia nea grammh poy exei egkainiasei to YPEXWDE, sygkentrwse kataggelies politwn gia 3000 lakkoybes se dyo-treis hmeres. Ti qa kanei h kybernhsh me ayto to qema, dedomenoy oti, opws fainetai oti yparxei problhma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo th stigmh poy h kybernhsh leitoyrghse th grammh kataggeliwn, einai dedomeno oti qewroyme qetiko kai poly ygies, poy antapokriqhkan oi polites. Kai emeis exoyme, pleon, thn eyqynh na diorqwsoyme ta kakws keimena, eite mesw toy YPEXWDE gia toys megaloys dromoys, eite me thn eyqynh kai to syntonismo toy YPEXWDE, bebaiws, gia tis Nomarxies kai toys Dhmoys gia tis periptwseis twn dromwn poy anhkoyn sth dikh toys eyqynh. Nai, analambanoyme tis eyqynes mas kai qa diorqwsoyme ta kakws keimena. Ayth einai h ypoxrewsh mas apenanti sto lao kai gi ayto ejalloy leitoyrghsame th grammh ayth.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Giati h kybernhsh den edwse adeia stis armades na desoyn sto limani toy Peiraia kai ean alhqeyei oti h amerikanikh presbeia ejefrase dysforia...;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den gnwrizw tipota peri dysforias. Apo thn allh pleyra, oydepote, ton teleytaio kairo, polemiko ploio exei ellimenistei ston Peiraia. H synhqhs praktikh einai, opws legetai sth naytikh dialekto, na paramenoyn "arodo". Kai etsi, eipwqhke oti prepei na parameinoyn ta ploia toy NATO sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, opws ginetai pantote. Ejalloy, kai polla olympiaka erga poy ekteloyntai ayth th stigmh sto limani toy Peiraia, den epitrepoyn -kai ayto apotelei enan epiprosqeto logo- mia tetoia adeia.

TAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dyo boyleytes ths N.D. kateqesan shmera mia erwthsh sth Boylh pros ton Prwqypoyrgo apo ton opoio zhtoyn na apanthsei pws einai dynaton to ellhniko Dhmosio na syndialegetai kai synallassetai me enan epixeirhmatia gia ton opoio exei askhqei diwjh gia kataskopeia se baros ths xwras. Protiqetai h kybernhsh na stamathsei aytes tis synallages mexris otoy jekaqarisei dikastika h ypoqesh;

PRWTOPAPAS: To exw janapei se ayth thn aiqoysa kai qa to epanalabw. Efarmozoyme to Syntagma kai toys nomoys, basei twn opoiwn gia na einai kapoios enoxos prepei na apodeixqei apo to dikasthrio. Kanenas poliths den einai enoxos ean h ypoqesh gia thn opoia kathgoreitai den fqasei sto akroathrio kai den yparjei dikastikh apofash. Ayto isxyei kai gia to systhma twn kratikwn promhqeiwn. Apo ekei kai pera, den katalabainw poio einai to problhma. To erwthma einai: ginontai swsta oi kratikes promhqeies; Ayto qa syzhthsoyme. Emeis leme oti me ta metra poy, prosfata, exoyme parei oi kratikes promhqeies ginontai apolyta swsta. Yparxoyn diagwnismoi, yparxei elegxos toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy, yparxoyn metra poy exoyn lhfqei, wste na yparxei plhrhs diafaneia ston tomea ayto. Oydepote exei apodeixqei, ta teleytaia xronia, para tis skies poy epixeirei gia politikoys logoys na rijei h N.D., oti ena sygkekrimeno ergo poy ekane h kybernhsh den egine me thrhsh twn diadikasiwn poy exoyme qesei. En pash periptwsei, ean kapoios kathgoreitai emeis leme oti to dikasthrio prepei na kanei grhgora th doyleia toy kai idiaitera otan h kathgoria ayth exei na kanei me thn koinwnikh kai oikonomikh zwh ths xwras, wste h ypoqesh na jekaqaristei grhgora. Ara, loipon, gia to men ena qema kanoyme th doyleia mas symfwna me to Syntagma kai toys nomoys, gia ta de zhthmata twn dikastikwn ekkremothtwn exoyme zhthsei eggrafws apo th Dikaiosynh na ferei grhgora se peras to ergo ths, na rijei apleto fws se oles tis ypoqeseis poy ekkremoyn, wste na gnwrizei o ellhnikos laos, na gnwrizoyme oloi bebaiws, poios eyqynetai kai giati. Qelw, loipon, na sas diabebaiwsw pws, oyte exoyme tipota na krycoyme, oyte exoyme tipota na fobhqoyme. Na kanei h Dikaiosynh th doyleia ths.

IWANNOY: Eipate, prohgoymenws, anaferomenos sth dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oti orismenoi eixan kallierghsei ayton ton teleytaio kairo kapoia senaria kai malista eipate "na to katalaboyn kala oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa paei stis ekloges ws arxhgos toy PASOK to 2004". Se poioys apeyqynetai o Prwqypoyrgos; Ennoei prwtoklasata stelexh toy kommatos poy me ton enan h ton allon tropo kinoyntai h anoigoyn to "xoro" ths diadoxhs h kapoia alla kentra kai an qewreite oti einai kentra na mas peite poia einai ayta;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws eseis etsi ki egw eidame ayta ta senaria na grafontai. Kai gnwrizete para poly kala, oti pera apo osa grafthkan einai kai polla ta opoia proforika kykloforoysan. O Prwqypoyrgos edwse ena telos sta senaria. Kai otan apeyqynetai o Prwqypoyrgos, apeyqynetai pros thn ellhnikh koinwnia, thn opoia enhmerwnei kai gia tis proqeseis toy kai gia thn pragmatikh poreia twn pragmatwn. O Prwqypoyrgos qa einai parwn, qa ferei se peras to ergo toy kai thn entolh poy toy aneqese o ellhnikos laos kai qa einai epikefalhs toy PASOK kai stis epomenes ekloges, opoy bebaiws diekdikoyme th nikh. Apo ekei kai pera, milhse gia "oneira qerinhs nyktos" kai shmera, logw xionioy, mporoyme na milhsoyme kai gia oneira "xeimerinhs nyktos". Alla ayta ta oneira den prokeitai na ginoyn prajeis.

IWANNOY: Dhladh, den exete akomh entopisei poios akribws th diakinhse th senarologia ayth, se olo ton Typo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eimaste anakritikh arxh. Politikoi eimaste.

IWANNOY: Politika ennow.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ta symperasmata dika sas.

PITTARAS: Me thn apofash twn Bryjellwn qewreite pws "h eswkommatikh antipoliteysh" mphke sto periqwrio; Kai anaferomai, bebaiws, sth Bretania.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kanete mia prwtotyph proseggish, alla pragmatika den mporw na thn parakoloyqhsw. Bebaiws, den einai eswkommatikh. Endo-eyrwpaikes diafores. Pragmati, yphrjan diaforetikes apoceis sthn Eyrwph kai den einai kai kako na yparxoyn diaforetikes apoceis. Alla, aytes oi apoceis prepei na epixeireitai na syntiqentai mesa apo ta qesmika organa ths E.E.. Ti apedeijan oi laoi ths Eyrwphs me th stash toys to Sabbato; Oi laoi ths Eyrwphs ekatommyria polites me th mazikh symmetoxh toys, se oles tis diadhlwseis mas zhthsan na exoyme mia eniaia stash, na shkwsei h Eyrwph to anasthma ths, na paremboyme yper ths eirhnhs. Antapokriqhkame stis apaithseis twn Eyrwpaiwn politwn. Kai epeidh o laos mas sofa leei oti "fwnh laoy, orgh Qeoy" eidate para poly kala oti ayth th fwnh toy laoy thn akoysan oloi.

BITALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla h prosfygh sth bia, ws ystato meso, den nomizw oti htan aithma twn ekatommyriwn diadhlwtwn se olo ton kosmo!

PRWTOPAPAS: H prosfygh sth bia, ws ystato meso, anaferetai akomh kai sta keimena toy OHE. Exei shmasia h anafora "ystato meso". Ayth th stigmh den yparxei, den exei diapistwqei logos parembashs. Bebaiws, ofeilei o Santam Xoysein na synergastei plhrws me toys epiqewrhtes. Pisteyw oti den exei kaneis allh apoch gi` ayto. Den mporei na exei to Irak xhmika h biologika opla kai na apeilei me mazikh katastrofh. Den ginetai ayto. Ofeilei symfwna me thn omofwnh apofash 1441 toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE o Santam Xoysein na synergastei plhrws me toys epiqewrhtes toy OHE kai na odhghsei sthn katastrofh aytwn twn oplwn. Exei kaneis diafwnia panw se ayto; Ean exei as mas to pei.

BITALHS: Ektimate oti me thn apofash twn "15", th Deytera to brady, yparxei mia safhs desmeysh pros ola ta melh-krath na mhn prosfygoyn se monomerh xrhsh bias ean tetoio pragma apaithsoyn oi ejelijeis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei mia safhs kateyqynsh. Bebaiws, nomika den mporei na desmeyqei kaneis, alla yparxei mia safhs politikh kateyqynsh gia kinhseis mesa apo ton OHE. Ayto bgainei apo ola ta shmeia toy keimenoy. An deite to keimeno qa diapistwsete oti kineitai safws sto plaisio toy OHE kai kalei oloys na kinhqoyn se ayto to plaisio. Einai mia apofasistikh symbolh, kyriws gia thn eniaia stash ths E.E. kai thn parembash ths stis ejelijeis. Anoigei ena paraqyro sthn eirhnh. Blepontas, ta ekatommyria twn diadhlwtwn se olh thn Eyrwph qymhqhka to stixo enos palioy tragoydioy toy Tzon Lenon "oloi leme, dwste mia eykairia sthn eirhnh". Ayto den prepei na kanoyme; Se ayto den eprepe na antapokriqoyme; Pisteyoyme, loipon, oti se ayto antapokriqhkan kai oi "15" me th dhlwsh toys.

TOYMASHS: Ean oi HPA den deijoyn thn idia eyaisqhsia, h ellhnikh kybernhsh mesa sto plaisio ths Eyrwpaikhs Koinothtas, alla kai monomerws pws skeftetai na diaxwrisei kai na antidrasei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete para poly kala oti sth dieqnh politikh prepei na frontizoyme oso mporoyme na mhn apantoyme se ypoqetikes erwthseis. Gnwrizw thn agwnia sas kai th sebomai. Piqanon na einai agwnia kai twn synadelfwn sas, alla kai ekatommyriwn Eyrwpaiwn politwn. Otan, omws, kanoyme politikh kai idiaitera se dieqnh qemata, prepei na koitame ta stoixeia poy exoyme mprosta mas kai tis prwtoboylies poy qa paroyme. As mhn mpoyme se mia diadikasia ypoqetikwn apanthsewn epi qewrhtikwn erwthsewn. Se telikh analysh o kaqenas krinetai.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Shmera, dhmosieythke ston Typo ena porisma elegktwn gia yperogkes dapanes ths k. Aggelopoyloy kai ths Epitrophs Diekdikhshs, tote, to 2000, me koinopoihsh sto Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy, stoys armodioys ypoyrgoys kai ston Proedro ths Boylhs. Einai, isws, enas apo toys logoys poy teqhke ypo epitropeia, enas apo toys logoys h k. Aggelopoyloy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, qelw na jekaqarisw oti h k. Aggelopoyloy den exei teqei ypo epitropeia. Meta apo symfwnia ths k. Aggelopoyloy me tis apofaseis ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs, alla kai meta apo synanthsh ths me ton Prwqypoyrgo yphrje h telikh apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn opoia symfwnei kai h k. Aggelopoyloy. Kai yphrje mia trimelhs epitroph apo to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn, to ypoyrgeio Politismoy kai ton "Aqhna 2004", akribws gia na yparxei enas synexhs elegxos twn dapanwn, na ejasfalizontai kai alles phges xrhmatodothshs kai na mporoyme grhgora, apotelesmatika, poiotika, alla kai mesa se logiko kostos gia tis pragmatikes anagkes na proxwrhsoyme sthn oloklhrwsh ths olympiakhs proetoimasias. Ayto einai to pragmatiko periexomeno ths apofashs, h opoia lhfqhke kai sto plaisio ayths ths apofashs ejelissetai h proetoimasia. Apo ekei kai pera, gia tis eswterikes kinhseis kai diadikasies toy "Aqhna 2004" den eimai armodios gia na apanthsw.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Den fantazomai oti einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh, otan bgainei to ena meta to allo gia yperogkes dapanes;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh exei hdh labei ta metra ths kai exei kanei tis kinhseis ths.

Sas eyxaristw.

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