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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 20 Dekembrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa parakaloysa kai shmera na kanete ena sxoliasmo twn sklhrwn dhlwsewn Ntenktas, o opoios sthn oysia ektroxiasthke, onomase ton aeimnhsto Makario ``tromokrath me matwmena xeria'', xarakthrise ``anhqikh dwrodokia'' to paketo oikonomikhs sthrijhs pros toys Toyrkokyprioys. Sthn oysia den apodexetai thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E. Epishs, qelw na sxoliasete tis dhlwseis toy k. Ferxoigken, o opoios eipe oti einai ametaklhth h entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E., alla hrqe o k. Anan, o opoios sthn oysia sygxeei thn entajh me th lysh.

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Anan den sygxeei thn entajh me th lysh. Leei oti prepei na trejoyn oi diapragmateyseis gia na mporesoyn na oloklhrwqoyn mexri tis 28 Febroyarioy, wste na yparjei lysh kai na mporei kata th Synqhkh entajhs, na entaxqei sthn E.E. oloklhro kai epanenwmeno to nhsi. Opws gnwrizete, exei entaxqei h Kypros, alla me anastolh toy koinotikoy kekthmenoy gia to boreio tmhma. Ayto, toylaxiston, perilambanetai sthn omofwnh apofash ths Kopegxaghs. O k. Anan, loipon, eipe oti ean qelete, kata th diarkeia ths ypografhs ths Synqhkhs, na exei ginei h epanenwsh kai na entaxqei epanenwmeno to nhsi, se ayth thn periptwsh, prepei oi diapragmateyseis na oloklhrwqoyn entos twn xronodiagrammatwn poy proteinei. Den ekane, se kamia periptwsh, syndesh ths entajhs ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias me th lysh. Kai ayto qelw na to katasthsw safes. H Kypros exei entaxqei sthn E.E. Den yparxei yposhmeiwsh. Einai mia kaqarh lysh. Kai se ayto prepei oloi na eimaste staqeroi. Eidate kai tis dhlwseis toy k. Ferxoigken, poy lynoyn kai thn teleytaia aporia.

Deyteron, yparxei h synexizomenh adiallajia toy k. Ntenktas. Poly kala tonise xqes o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy oti qa ton jeperasei h istoria. Me thn taktikh toy, o k. Ntenktas prospaqei kai pali na yponomeysei thn prooptikh lyshs toy kypriakoy problhmatos. Odhgei se epikindynes atrapoys thn olh katastash. Deixnei kai pali mia adiallajia poy einai antiqeth kai me ta symferonta toy toyrkikoy laoy, alla kai me ta symferonta ths toyrkokypriakhs koinothtas, h opoia, ejalloy, ekdhlwnei hdh thn antiqesh ths. Pisteyw oti to kalytero poy exoyn na kanoyn h Toyrkia kai h toyrkokypriakh pleyra, einai na katanohsoyn oti gia na mporesoyn na enisxysoyn thn eyrwpaikh poreia toys, einai anagkaio na proselqoyn stis diapragmateyseis gia na breqei lysh, dikaih kai biwsimh, sto politiko problhma ths Kyproy.

Kaqe allh ejelijh, oles aytes oi emprhstikes dhlwseis, ola ayta ta fainomena, to resital adiallajias toy k. Ntenktas, to mono poy prosqetei einai na prokalei epipleon problhmata sthn toyrkokypriakh koinothta kai genikotera sthn Toyrkia.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ayto poy onomase ``anhqikh dwrodokia'', thn prospaqeia toy k. Klhridh gia na bohqhsei toys Toyrkokyprioys, pws to xarakthrizete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti o k. Ntenktas fqanei sto epikindyno shmeio na arneitai tis prwtoboylies ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias, gia th bohqeia sth dokimazomenh koinothta toy. Ayto poy prepei na katalabei einai oti ta pragmatika symferonta ths toyrkokypriakhs koinothtas, twn aplwn politwn, einai sthn kateyqynsh poy proteinei o Proedros Klhridhs kai h Kypriakh Dhmokratia. Sthn kateyqynsh twn diapragmateysewn gia thn epanenwsh ths Kyproy.

GKROMAN: Pisteyei h ellhnikh kybernhsh oti einai dynath h synexish twn diapragmateysewn, gia mia piqanh lysh ews tis 28 Febroyarioy, me ton k. Ntenktas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oloklhrh h dieqnhs koinothta parakoloyqei me idiaiterh prosoxh tis ejelijeis. O k. Anan anelabe mia nea prwtoboylia kai h dieqnhs koinothta, sto synolo ths, sthrizei ayth thn prwtoboylia toy. Toso h Ellada, oso kai h Kypros, antapokrinontai kai sth nea prwtoboylia toy G.G. toy OHE. Eimaste etoimoi na jekinhsoyme tis diapragmateyseis. Pisteyoyme oti prepei kai mporei na breqei lysh sto politiko problhma ths Kyproy. Pisteyoyme oti ayto epiballoyn ta pragmatika symferonta kai ths Toyrkias, alla kai ths toyrkokypriakhs koinothtas. Yparxoyn para polloi kai sthn Toyrkia kai sthn toyrkokypriakh pleyra, oi opoioi antilambanontai oti ta pragmatika symferonta toys briskontai se ayth thn ejelijh, poy proteinei o G.G. toy OHE.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Me tis epistoles poy esteile o k. Anan kai pros tis dyo pleyres, thn Ellada kai thn Toyrkia kai tis parotrynei na proxwrhsoyn mexri tis 28 Febroyarioy se lysh toy Kypriakoy -ean ayto den symbei me ypaitiothta ths toyrkikhs pleyras- pisteyete oti qa yparjoyn epiptwseis kai poies mporei na einai aytes kai kata ths Toyrkias kai kata twn Toyrkokypriwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean h toyrkikh kai h toyrkokypriakh pleyra arnhqoyn kai pali tis diapragmateyseis, odhgoyntai se dieqnh apomonwsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Mhn odhghqoyme, omws, sthn eyrwdixotomhsh....

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora to qema ths entajhs, kat arxhn, einai poly kaqaro oti den amfisbhteitai. Ayto prepei na qewreitai lhjan. Apo kei kai pera, ean h toyrkikh h h toyrkokypriakh pleyra den symfwnhsoyn gia th lysh, einai safes oti xrewnontai enanti ths dieqnoys koinothtas ena terastio kostos kai dhmioyrgoyn arnhtikes ejelijeis se mia seira zhthmata. Ayto, omws, poy eyelpistoyme kai pisteyw oti ekei prepei na meinoyme twra einai oti epiballetai -opws olh h dieqnhs koinothta zhta- na anaqewrhqoyn aytes oi adiallaktes apoceis kai na arxisoyn oi diapragmateyseis. Qelw na meinoyme mexris edw shmera.

KARGOYDH: Hqela na rwthsw ean h kybernhsh, meta kai th xqesinh anapomph toy P.D. apo ton Toyrko Proedro poy qa anoige to dromo, ean pernoyse ayth h diadikasia sth nomimopoihsh toy k. Erntogan kai sthn anadeijh toy sthn prwqypoyrgia, ean synexizete na ektimate oti ontws h Agkyra epiqymei na proxwrhsei thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na ypenqymisw oti yphrje poly megalh piesh apo thn toyrkikh kybernhsh gia thn enisxysh ths eyrwpaikhs poreias ths Toyrkias. Kai malista yphrjan kai dhlwseis oti perimenan kati kalytero apo thn apofash ths Kopegxaghs. Qelw na pw, loipon, oti profanws h toyrkikh kybernhsh ejakoloyqei na paramenei staqerh sthn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias. Ki emeis qeloyme thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths. Qelw na tonisw oti ayth h hmeromhnia poy phre h Toyrkia, h opoia oysiastika jekina apo to Dekembrio toy 2004 kai arxizoyn oi diapragmateyseis apo tote, den einai arnhtikh. Einai mia qetikh ejelijh, dioti yparxei pleon o stoxos, yparxei h hmeromhnia, yparxoyn oi dynatothtes. Ean h Toyrkia deijei symperifora eyrwpaikhs xwras, me o,ti shmainei ayto, qa enisxysei akoma perissotero kai qa epitaxynei thn poreia ths. Ayto einai, kata th gnwmh mas, to swsto. Ayto prepei na ginei twra. Pisteyw oti yparxoyn polles dynameis mesa sthn Toyrkia poy to qeloyn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Efoson plhroi ta krithria ths Kopegxaghs...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto to tonisame kai einai gnwsto.

PITTARAS: Epeidh meta apo poly kairo eidame asprh mera, h kybernhsh einai se etoimothta gia na mh zhsoyme ta persina fainomena;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ta fainomena einai arketa dysmenh kai pragmati dhmioyrgoyn problhmata. O kratikos mhxanismos einai se egrhgorsh kai se etoimothta gia na antimetwpisei piqana problhmata. H Genikh Grammateia Politikhs Prostasias parakoloyqei ta pragmata kai parembainei opoy einai anagkaio.

ANTYPAS: Gia to qema twn laikwn omologwn, qa hqela na rwthsw an exei egkataleifqei telikws h idea kai ti skeftetai na kanei h kybernhsh, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei ena pragmatiko problhma poy exei na kanei me tis kataqeseis twn misqwtwn kai twn syntajioyxwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: To qema syzhthqhke xqes kai o ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn N. Xristodoylakhs, me thn omilia toy sth Boylh, jekaqarise oti epiballetai oi trapezes na staqoyn me idiaiterh prosoxh sthn apodosh pros ton polith twn proiontwn poy prosferoyn kai na beltiwsoyn aytes tis apodoseis. Exoyn dhmioyrghqei polla problhmata, idiaitera apo tis apodoseis twn kataqesewn tamieythrioy. Pisteyw oti oi Trapezes prepei na ejetasoyn me prosoxh thn parembash toy k. Xristodoylakh kai na thn antimetwpisoyn qetika. Ean den to kanoyn, h kybernhsh qa ejetasei me prosoxh poia metra prepei na labei gia na prostateysei ton polith kai to eisodhma toy. Einai anagkaio na beltiwqoyn aytes oi apodoseis.

GIANNISHS: Prin apo ligo o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, se dhlwseis toy, me aformh th syskech gia to qema ths diafqoras, me bash tis dhlwseis toy k. Kroystallakh, kathgorhse thn kybernhsh oti oxi mono den katapolema th diafqora, alla antiqetws ths parexei qesmiko kai politiko ypobaqro kai ekane logo gia prostasia ypallhlwn ths kybernhtikhs "nomegklatoyras", toys opoioys kai proagei.

PRWTOPAPAS: To qema den einai mono oti o k. Karamanlhs den exei diabasei h kanei oti den exei diabasei tis dhlwseis toy k. Kroystallakh, einai oti synexizei na antimetwpizei ena idiaitera sobaro problhma poy apasxolei thn ellhnikh koinwnia, mono kai mono gia th dhmioyrgia entypwsewn. Yparxoyn ekeinoi poy qeloyn na antimetwpisoyn th diafqora kai ekeinoi poy qeloyn na xrhsimopoihsoyn to problhma ths diafqoras gia dhmioyrgia mikrokommatikwn entypwsewn. Emeis, anhkoyme stoys prwtoys. S` aytoys poy qeloyn na antimetwpisoyn to yparkto problhma. Gi` ayto to logo, lambanoyme synexws metra. Gi` ayto to logo, dhmioyrghsame to "Swma twn Adiafqorwn". Gi` ayto to logo, o k. Kroystallakhs synantatai shmera me ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs K. Skandalidh, prokeimenoy na symbaloyn oi dikastikoi leitoyrgoi sthn antimetwpish toy problhmatos kai na syndeqoyn me th doyleia poy qa kanei -kai qa einai idiaitera apotelesmatikh- to "Swma twn Adiafqorwn" poy exoyme dhmioyrghsei. O k. Karamanlhs exei meinei mono sth dhmioyrgia entypwsewn. Ton endiaferei mono h prospaqeia na dhmioyrghsei mikrokommatikes entypwseis, enocei toy Proypologismoy. Emas, mas endiaferei h oysia poy einai na katapolemhqei h diafqora sto Dhmosio, opoy ki an brisketai. Eimaste apolytoi sth doyleia poy qa ginei se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Synergazomaste stena kai me toys dikastikoys leitoyrgoys. Qa ftasoyme opoy ki an xreiastei. To maxairi qa fqasei sto kokalo.

ANTYPAS: Eipate oti h kybernhsh kalei tis trapezes na laboyn qetika thn epishmansh toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias. An den to kanoyn...;

PRWTOPAPAS: Se ayth thn periptwsh, qa ejetasei ti qa kanei.

ANTYPAS: Qa hqela na ginete ligo pio analytikos se ayto, giati sas epishmainw oti antistoixes parembaseis toy ypoyrgoy Anaptyjhs gia ta panwtokia kai diafores alles diadikasies h gia toys oroys xorhghshs katanalwtikwn daneiwn, agnohqhkan pantelws apo thn pleyra twn trapezwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean oi trapezes emmeinoyn sth shmerinh katastash, safws h kybernhsh qa ejetasei ti qa kanei.

ANTYPAS: Qa yparjei kapoios foros gia osoys exoyn oikiaka zwa, opws skyloys k.t.l.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Egine kapoia arxikh ejaggelia apo ton armodio yfypoyrgo Gewrgias. Apo to prwi omws o idios exei tonisei oti to sxetiko metro, dhladh to telos poy eixe arxikws ejaggelqei gia ta katoikidia kai to opoio qa htan poly mikro, den qa isxysei. Apo o,ti plhroforhqhka, yphrxe mia tetoia skech, meta apo protaseis orismenwn filozwikwn organwsewn. Omws, ayto den qa isxysei telika kai qa yparjei mia syzhthsh toy armodioy yfypoyrgoy F. Xatzhmixalh me tis endiaferomenes organwseis, prokeimenoy na doyn me poio tropo mporei na antimetwpistoyn ola ta problhmata poy yparxoyn sto xwro ayto.

PITTARAS: Skefteste, dhladh, na to epanaferete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto poy qelw na jekaqarisw einai oti den qa yparjei telos gia ta katoikidia zwa. Qa isxysoyn, bebaiws, ta prostima gia tis parabiaseis poy anaferontai sto sxetiko sxedio Nomoy. Omws, den qa yparjei telos gia osoys nomimws exoyn katoikidia zwa.

ALEJAKHS: Xqes, o Proedros toy SEB eqese to qema diasyndeshs twn ayjhsewn, oxi pleon me posostiaia morfh, alla me thn paragwgikothta. Enocei ths syzhthshs, yparxei kati tetoio apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs na symbei to epomeno diasthma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Panta yparxei syzhthsh me to Syndesmo twn Ellhnikwn Biomhxaniwn gia ola ta qemata ths oikonomias kai ths paragwghs. Qa htan, omws, bebiasmeno, ayth th stigmh, na anoijei mia tetoia syzhthsh, thn wra poy arxise kai oloklhrwnetai thn Kyriakh h syzhthsh kai chfish toy Proypologismoy. Apo ekei kai pera, sto qema twn misqwn, oson afora ton idiwtiko tomea yparxoyn oi syllogikes symbaseis kai sygkekrimena h Eqnikh Genikh Syllogikh Symbash Ergasias poy diapragmateyontai h GSEE kai o SEB. Oson afora to qema to qema twn misqwn twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn, gnwrizete oti qa anoijei dialogos me tis organwseis toy dhmosioy tomea, prokeimenoy na doyme to olo misqologiko zhthma kai tis ayjhseis poy prepei na doqoyn se ayth thn kateyqynsh kai sth synexeia.

ALEJAKHS: Proxqes, oi ergazomenoi toy thleoptikoy staqmoy TEMPO kateqesan mia symbibastikh protash sthn twrinh dioikhsh, zhtwntas mia dieyqethsh se 12mhnh bash gia thn katabolh twn dedoyleymenwn. Me dedomeno oti o staqmos ayth thn wra leitoyrgei, ekpempei kai exei malista eisprajeis apo...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ekpempei me proswrinh apofash toy StE. Qelw na to jekaqarisoyme ayto.

ALEJAKHS: Ayth th stigmh, o staqmos ekpempei, eisprattei xrhmata, malista einai kerdoforos apo o,ti lene, toylaxiston oxi se sxesh me tis ypoxrewseis toy, alla me th leitoyrgikh drash toy. Yparxei h desmeysh ths kybernhshs me thn ypografh toy k. Tziola, prin apo mhnes, gia thn prostasia twn dikaiwmatwn twn ergazomenwn. Pisteyete oti qa parembei h kybernhsh, oytws wste na katablhqoyn ta dedoyleymena kai na ginei dexth h protash poy arnhqhke h dioikhsh, para to gegonos oti shmera leitoyrgei to kanali kai eisprattei, alla den apodidei stoys ergazomenoys ta dedoyleymena.

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh panta apaitei apo toys ergodotes na kataballoyn ta dedoyleymena kai na einai synepeis stis ypoxrewseis toys. Safws qa to kanei kai sto qema ayto.

ALEJAKHS: Qa probeite se sygkekrimena metra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Safws qa paremboyme gia na katablhqoyn ta opoia dedoyleymena ofeilontai stoys ergazomenoys. Ayth einai ypoxrewsh mas.

Sas eyxaristw kai kales giortes.

SHMEIWSH: H politikh enhmerwsh, meta apo symfwnh gnwmh kai twn politikwn syntaktwn, qa epanarxisei thn Trith (7/1/03).

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