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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 25 Noembrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Sxetika me th synedriash toy KYSEA, gia thn opoia ekane analytikes dhlwseis o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas Giannos Papantwnioy, qa sas enhmerwsw gia mia eisagwgikh parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia th Synodo toy NATO sthn Praga.

O Prwqypoyrgos eipe xarakthristika oti h Synodos ayth htan idiaitera shmantikh, giati shmatodothse mia basikh allagh. To NATO palia htan mia symmaxia, h opoia eixe sygkrothqei gia na antimetwpisei thn tote Sobietikh Enwsh. Htan topika periorismenh kai oso gia tis stratiwtikes ths prwtoboylies, aforoyse thn antimetwpish toy kindynoy apo th Sobietikh Enwsh kai kyriws ston eyrwpaiko xwro. To NATO mesa apo diadikasies, poy jekinhsan kai epikyrwqhkan me tis apofaseis twn Bryjellwn, twra pia qelei na antimetwpisei kindynoys apo asymmetres apeiles kai apo mazika opla katastrofhs. Ayto shmainei oti o topikos periorismos den isxyei pia. Shmainei oti ean krinei oti yparxei, gia paradeigma, mia xwra sthn Asia, enas kindynos gia th xrhsimopoihsh oplwn mazikhs katastrofhs apo ena allo shmeio toy planhth, qa mporei ki ekei na epembei. Symfwna me ayth th strathgikh einai kai h apofash na yparxei mia dynamh taxeias epembashs. Prin -qa aporhsei kaneis- den yphrxe tetoia dynamh, me thn ennoia oti oi dynameis, opws eixan diamorfwqei, qa antimetwpizan mia epiqesh ths Sobietikhs Enwshs. Den xreiazontan na pane alloy sto kosmo, enw twra xreiazetai kai gi ayto xreiazetai mia dynamh taxeias epembashs. H dynamh ayth gia thn opoia yphrje apofash, einai parallhlh pros ayth ths E.E. poy qelei ki ayth na kanei mia dynamh, omws gia parembaseis eirhneytikes. H dynamh toy NATO exei, bebaiws, kai ayth ws apostolh thn ejasfalish ths eirhnhs, alla den exei enan tetoio periorismo, opws ekeinh poy qa sygkrothqei apo thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph. Ayto, omws, den payei, para ton periorismo, na deixnei oti h E.E. kai to NATO exoyn dyo diaforetikoys parallhloys prosanatolismoys. Kalyptoyn diaforetikes apeiles, alla kai ws ek toytoy, mporei na yparjei h dynatothta symfwnias kai na yparxei h anagkh stenoterhs synergasias. Kai gi ayto yparxoyn ta qemata toy legomenoy eyrwstratoy, poy einai shmantika.

O Prwqypoyrgos anefere oti h epektash toy NATO sthn Anatolikh kai Kentrikh Eyrwph, kai h entajh se ayto triwn xwrwn, oi opoies anhkan prin sthn Sobietikh Enwsh, deixnei oti to NATO apokta mia poly megalyterh ektash kai oi isorropies dynamewn pia diaferoyn. Enw palia h idea htan na einai mia eyrw-atlantikh Symmaxia, Dytikh Eyrwph kai HPA, twra einai mia Symmaxia eyryterh, sthn opoia oi HPA, logw ths antallaghs twn texnologiwn, paizoyn kaqoristiko rolo. Idiaitera ean yparxoyn apostoles ektos Eyrwphs, oi HPA einai oi mones poy mporoyn na tis pragmatopoihsoyn. Exoyn, loipon, mia poly dynath qesh, thn opoia enisxyoyn kai oi qeseis twn newn kratwn-melwn, poy prosblepoyn poly perissotero sto NATO gia thn epiteyjh twn eqnikwn toys epidiwjewn, para sthn E.E. Dhladh, h Synodos ths Pragas epikyrwse mia ejelijh twn dyo, triwn teleytaiwn etwn, me thn opoia h Symmaxia apokta kai diaforetikh morfh apo to parelqon kai diaforetikh apostolh kai basizetai se enan diaforetiko sysxetismo dynamewn.

Ola ayta kalo einai na ta gnwrizoyme. Den anairoyn se tipota th shmasia toy NATO gia mas, tonise o Prwqypoyrgos. Den anairoyn se tipota thn ypoxrewsh synergasias. Alla, taytoxrona, epibaloyn na frontizoyme poly perissotero apo oti prin, gia mia eyrwpaikh koinh ejwterikh politikh asfaleias kai amynas (KEPAA).

O Prwqypoyrgos, kleinontas th synedriash, tonise oti kai apo to KYSEA, alla kai apo tis parembaseis toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas kai twn arxhgwn GEEQA, GES kai GEN, ekteqhke h anagkh promhqeias ejoplismwn gia thn eyelikth antidrash mas, se periptwsh mias opoiasdhpote krishs sto Aigaio, alla kai thn prostasia toy Aigaioy kai twn nhsiwn mas. Eipe oti den qa agorasoyme tipota poy den mas einai apolyta anagkaio. Tonise oti shmera oloklhrwnoyme me aytes tis parembaseis ton programmatismo mas gia thn periodo 2001-2005, me ejairesh ayto poy tonise kai o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias, thn periptwsh armatwn metaforas, typoy KENTAYROS, kostoys 220-250 ekatommyriwn eyrw. Epishs, epishmane oti qa ginei xrhsh twn "option", mono se synennohsh me to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn kai ean aytes einai shmantikoy ycoys qa xreiastei nea synedriash toy KYSEA kai pws oi proypologismoi qa prepei na einai kleistoi. Yparxei anwtato orio poy qa thrhqei kai ta symfwnhmena oria den epidexontai kamias ayjhshs. H synedriash toy KYSEA elhje me omofwnh apofash.

Sxetika me to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw oti:

Shmera stis 7 m.m., qa pragmatopoihqei synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy toy PASOK gia thn proetoimasia ths Synodoy ths K.E., h opoia qa ginei thn erxomenh Pempth kai Paraskeyh. H Synodos qa anoijei stis 10 to prwi, me omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Stis 27 Noembrioy, qa synedriasei h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes.

Stis 30 Noembrioy, exei programmatistei episkech toy Ispanoy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Aqnar, o opoios qa syzhthsei me ton Prwqypoyrgo to synolo twn qematwn poy apasxoloyn, ayth th stigmh, thn E.E. alla kai thn ellhnikh Proedria.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Afoy, loipon, sto KYSEA apofasisate omofwna ti opla qa paroyme kai mexri poioy shmeioy qa plhrwnoyme, as pame twra sta tetrimmena@.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epi toy prwtoy qematos, epeidh den xwroyn asteia se ayta, prepei na sas pw oti exoyme eyqynh apenanti ston ellhniko lao. Ta programmata ayta einai aparaithta kai ayto mas eishghqhkan kai oi Enoples Dynameis, oi opoies -prepei na sas pw- oti eishghqhkan megalytero ariqmo elikopterwn kai allwn parembasewn, alla telikws, gia na eimaste mesa se ena sygkekrimeno oikonomiko megeqos, epilejame ayth thn odo. Epanalambanw oti ayta ta programmata einai aparaithta, ean qeloyme na milame gia mia eyelikth antidrash sto Aigaio kai gia thn yperaspish toy Aigaioy kai twn nhsiwn mas apo opoiadhpote apeilh. Gi` ayto kai den prosferontai gia eykoles "anafores".

MIXAHL: Sto Kypriako fainontai ta pragmata na einai ligo sygkexymena me thn ejhs ennoia: Oti apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias akoyme antifatikes dhlwseis. Xqes, gia paradeigma, akoysame ton k. Erntogan na leei oti qeloyme dyo jexwrista krath sthn Kypro. Ton k. Giankis arxika na leei oti qa dexqoyme to Sxedio Anan, alla meta den mporoyme na to diapragmateyqoyme kai qa doyme pws qa ginei. Maqainoyme oti polloi Eyrwpaioi etairoi mas, opws oi Ollandoi, syndeoyn thn epilysh me thn entajh. Telika h ellhnikh kybernhsh, ayth th stigmh, ti prosdoka gia to epomeno diasthma mexri na fqasoyme sthn Kopegxagh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epishmainw oti oydeis mexri twra exei syndesei thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy me thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E. kai elpizw mexri teloys na mhn to kanei kanenas. Dioti den exei oyte to politiko, oyte to hqiko dikaiwma. Yparxoyn oi omofwnes apofaseis twn Bryjellwn gia tis opoies oydepote teqhke tetoio qema. Qelw na epanalabw oti dieyrynsh ths E.E. ean sto prwto kyma -kai malista prwth symfwna me ta krithria poy exei qesei h E.E.- den entaxqei h Kypriakh Dhmokratia, den einai nohth. Ayto einai, opws eipe kai o Prwqypoyrgos, ena mhnyma pros oles tis kateyqynseis, mia kaqarh lysh gia thn entajh ths Kyproy, xwris yposhmeiwseis kai asteriskoys.

MIXAHL: H dhlwsh toy Ollandoy Prwqypoyrgoy htan apolytws safhs kata thn ektimhsh moy. Eipe oti, ean yparxei epilysh toy problhmatos, mexri thn Kopegxagh, qa einai poly eykolotera ta pragmata. Ean ayto den ypodhlwnei syndesh ths lyshs me thn entajh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporoyme na diabazoyme pisw apo tis grammes. Yparxoyn oi eyqeies dhlwseis. Kai eyqeies dhlwseis kai chfofories exoyn ginei, prin apo ena-enamisi mhna, stis Bryjelles. Ekei htan kai o Ollandos prwqypoyrgos, opws htan kai oloi oi prwqypoyrgoi, oi opoioi symfwnhsan omofwna gia thn entajh ths Kyproy, opws kai twn allwn ypo entajh xwrwn poy ypagontai sto prwto kyma ths dieyrynshs. Den yparxei kanenas logos kai kamia apofash, gia na mhn thrhqoyn ta symfwnhqenta stis Bryjelles, ta opoia exoyn chfistei omofwna. Kai einai safes, oti h Ellada, se kamia periptwsh, den qa dexqei oiandhpote allh lysh. Qeloyme kaqarh entajh ths Kyproy apo th Synodo ths Kopegxaghs, xwris asteriskoys kai yposhmeiwseis. Dieyrynsh ths E.E., xwris na entaxqei h Kypros sto prwto kyma kai malista prwth, symfwna me ta krithria poy exei qesei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, den einai nohth. Apo kei kai pera, bebaiws, yparxei mia genikoterh stash ths Toyrkias, thn opoia parakoloyqoyme aytes tis meres, poy dhmioyrgei idiaitera empodia. Einai pragmatika mia stash, apo amfishmh ews arnhtikh, me antikroyomenes dhlwseis kai synexh allagh stashs apo diaforoys paragontes. Den jerw, poy telika qa isorrophsei h Toyrkia kai gia poioys logoys ginontai ayta. Einai safes, omws, oti me th stash ths dhmioyrgei problhmata sthn idia thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths. H arnhsh ths na dwsei telikes apanthseis se dyo zhthmata poy den aforoyn mono thn Ellada, alla oloklhrh thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, opws einai o eyrwstratos kai h epilysh toy Kypriakoy, dhmioyrgei, en telei, problhma sthn eyrwpaikh poreia ths. Kai qelw na tonisw oti den yparxei diafora mono Elladas-Toyrkias se ayta ta zhthmata. H diafora einai metajy E.E.- Toyrkias. Qelw na qymisw oti kai ston eyrwstrato yparxei apofash twn ``15'' stis Bryjelles kai prosfata h dhlwsh ths danikhs Proedrias poy ekfrazei to synolo twn ``15'' gia thn anagkh enarjhs twn diapragmateysewn me bash to Sxedio Anan kai malista amesa. Den mporei, loipon, h Toyrkia na emfanizetai na piezei gia thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths. Afoy einai gnwsth h qetikh stash kai symbolh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs s@ ayto @thn opoia epanalambanw- thn idia wra h Toyrkia na mh dinei ena qetiko mhnyma, me to na apodexqei, sto plaisio toy NATO, tis qeseis ths E.E. gia ton eyrwstrato kai thn amesh enarjh diapragmateysewn me bash to Sxedio Anan.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Otan lete, den noeitai dieyrynsh, an den einai sto prwto kyma h Kypros, ti qa kanei h ellhnikh kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto exei prodiagrafei apo thn apanthsh moy. Den qa ginei dieyrynsh, an den einai sto prwto kyma h Kypros. Einai poly safes.

MPOTWNHS: Prin apo mia ebdomada htan edw o k. Erntogan. Syzhthsate, ws kybernhsh, ennow o Prwqypoyrgos, ola ayta ta qemata poy eipate prohgoymenws. O arxhgos toy kommatos Dikaiosynhs kai Anaptyjhs ths Toyrkias einai enas ajiopistos synomilhths;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mh moy zhtate na apanthsw, giati den einai swsto. Pragmatika den mporw na parakoloyqhsw, tis teleytaies meres, tis pollaples kai syxna antifatikes dhlwseis arketwn kai idiaitera shmantikwn paragontwn ths Toyrkias. Krinw oti qa htan laqos na asxolhqoyme me ayto. Antiqeta, ekeino gia to opoio prepei na asxolhqoyme, einai h epishmh qesh ths Toyrkias, h opoia mexri ayth th stigmh, paramenei zhtoymeno. Den nomizw oti yparxei kapoios, o opoios na mporei na bgalei asfalh symperasmata. Kai ayto einai arnhtiko. Kai einai arnhtiko kai gia thn idia thn Toyrkia. Kai fysika, gia ta genikotera problhmata poy yparxoyn sth dieqnh Koinothta kai sth dieqnh skhnh.

ALEJAKHS: Shmera, an den kanw laqos h tis teleytaies meres, brisketai sthn Kypro o k. Nte Soto..

PRWTOPAPAS: Phge ap@ o,ti jerw kai sth Xagh na synomilhsei me ton k. Anan.

ALEJAKHS: Akribws. Ayth h diaboyleysh poy ginetai sto trigwno Aqhna- Leykwsia-Agkyra einai pros thn kateyqynsh ths epanadiatypwshs toy Sxedioy; Ths kat@ arxhn apodoxhs toy; Ths allaghs sygkekrimenwn stoixeiwn; Giati yparxei mia asafeia se ayth th fash twn diapragmateysewn se sxesh me thn emplokh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi diaboyleyseis poy ginontai einai gia na jekinhsoyn oi diapragmateyseis epi toy Sxedioy Anan. O Prwqypoyrgos se thlefwnikh epikoinwnia toy me to Geniko Grammatea toy OHE, gia thn opoia sas enhmerwsa thn prohgoymenh Paraskeyh to meshmeri, sthn Praga, eipe oti h Ellada symfwnei oti ayto to Sxedio apotelei afethria diapragmateyshs. Bebaiws, oi kyries diapragmateyseis qa prepei na diejaxqoyn metajy toy Proedroy Klhridh kai toy k. Ntenktas h toy ekproswpoy ths toyrkokypriakhs pleyras. H ellhnikh pleyra einai etoimh kai gia to kommati ekeino, to opoio analogei stis eggyhtries dynameis. Alla, milame gia diapragmateysh. Den anefere fysika thlefwnika ston k. Anan ta sygkekrimena shmeia, alla sas plhroforw oti ayta einai ta idia, ta opoia proballei kai h Kypriakh Dhmokratia. Eimaste se plhrh synennohsh me thn Kypro kai ton Proedro Klhridh.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: To Sabbato, me aformh ths synedriash toy KYSEA, o Proedros ths N.D. kathggeile thn kybernhsh gia anaqesh promhqeiwn se hmeteroys, systhmatikh ypertimologhsh kai paranomes epembaseis ston tomea twn promhqeiwn. Hqela to sxolio sas kai mia dieykrinish. Telika oi promhqeies toy ejoplismoy eginan me diagwnismo h me apeyqeias anaqeseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora to prwto erwthma, exw apanthsei apo to Sabbato. Bebaiws, yparxei sto kommati ayto, ws apanthsh sth N.D., kai mia neoterh anakoinwsh poy egine apo emena xqes, alla kai shmerinh, stis opoies sas parapempw, kaqws kai stis dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas Giannoy Papantwnioy, sth Boylh, meta th synedriash toy KYSEA. Oson afora to deytero erwthma sas, qelw na sas pw oti o olos xeirismos ths diadikasias twn ejoplistikwn programmatwn egine sto plaisio ths isxyoysas nomoqesias. Qelw na sas qymisw oti prosfata, me apofash toy YPEQA Giannoy Papantwnioy anabaqmisthkan idiaitera oi yphresies poy apasxoloyntai me ta ejoplistika programmata, akribws gia na anabaqmistei kai h ennoia ths diafaneias kai ths apotelesmatikothtas stis epiloges mas. Dieykrinistika prepei na sas pw oti se oles tis periptwseis diejhxqhsan me diagwnistikes diadikasies kai se mia apo aytes egine me thn epilogh ths apeyqeias anaqeshs.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Akoysa prin ton k. Papantwnioy na leei oti pairnoyme ayta ta elikoptera metaforas proswpikoy, gia na exoyme mia eyelijia panw apo to Aigaio kai mporoyn na metaferoyn eykola stratiwtes kai dynameis panw apo nhsia kai braxonhsides. Fobatai h kybernhsh gia qermo epeisodio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: To lew, epeidh ayth h periodos einai mia periodos poy oloi blepoyme mia ejomalynsh stis sxeseis mas me thn Toyrkia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Makari, na epiteyxqei plhrws ayth h ejomalynsh. Kai makari na symfwnhsoyme, wste na breqei mia dikaih kai biwsimh lysh kai sto meizon qema toy Kypriakoy. Makari na enisxyqei kai h eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias kai na anoijei o dromos gia mia genikoterh poreia synergasias eirhnhs, asfaleias, staqerothtas kai anaptyjhs sthn perioxh. Alla, ayto den einai dedomeno, opws jerete poly kala kai opws blepete kaqhmerina. Einai logiko, loipon, oti eprepe na oloklhrwqoyn ta ejoplistika programmata mas. Oloklhrwqhkan me idiaiterh synesh kai prosoxh. Den ejantlhqhkan ta posa poy eixan proypologistei. Phgame poly pio sygkrathmena gia eynohtoys logoys. Apo thn allh, eprepe na oloklhrwqei ekeino to programma, na exoyme ekeina ta mesa, ta opoia qa kaqistoyn dynath mia eyelikth antidrash mas sto Aigaio kai mia proaspish toy Aigaioy kai twn nhsiwn mas. Den perimenoyme kati sygkekrimeno, alla ofeiloyme na eimaste etoimoi. Ofeiloyme enwpion toy ellhnikoy laoy me aisqhma eyqynhs na briskomaste se plhrh etoimothta, symfwna me to neo sxediasmo poy exei ginei gia tis Enoples Dynameis, poy qa proaspizei ta eqnika symferonta mas.

MOYRTZHS: Ta amyntika programmata ti ycos exoyn, kai se ti poso anerxontai oi promhqeies gia toys mesazontes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean den kanw laqos, symfwna me tis shmerines apofaseis anerxontai sto poso peripoy twn 2 dis eyrw. Yparxoyn analytikes anafores apo to k. Papantwnioy. H ellhnikh kybernhsh kai oi Enoples Dynameis mas exoyn diapragmateyqei apeyqeias me tis kataskeyastries etaireies. Den yparxei kamia diapragmateysh kai kamia promhqeia apo mas gia kanena mesazonta. To tonizw ayto. Ypogrammisthke ejalloy kai sth synedriash toy KYSEA apo to k. Papantwnioy, oti oi diapragmateyseis exoyn ginei apeyqeias me tis kataskeyastries etaireies. Kai se aytes qa plhrwqoyn ta xrhmata, symfwna me to xronodiagramma poy qa yparjei, to opoio qa exei kai mia metakylish pros ta pisw, wste na mhn ephreastoyn @.

MOYRTZHS: Kai sto parelqon etsi synebaine. Diapragmateyotan to Dhmosio me tis etaireies kai o mesazontas ta epairne apo tis etaireies.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exete stoixeia na mas bohqhsete;

MOYRTZHS: Synebaine diaforetika;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw. Den eimai eidikos epi aytwn twn qematwn, oyte mporw na apologhqw gia to parelqon. Ekeino poy qelw na tonisw einai pws opoia stoixeia exete sth diaqesh sas, sas parakalw na ta kataqesete. Den exoyme tipota na krycoyme kai tipota na fobhqoyme. Mas endiaferei na ejyphrethsoyme mono thn eqnikh asfaleia kai tipota allo.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Diabazontas thn omilia toy k. Karamanlh, parathrhsa oti anefere ena paradeigma gia na tekmhriwsei ta osa yposthrije...

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to Koybeit qa moy peite.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Nai.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei anaferqei se ayta shmera o k. Papantwnioy, meta th synedriash toy KYSEA. Apanta sygkekrimena se ola ta zhthmata poy eqese o k. Karamanlhs.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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