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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 20 Noembrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Opws gnwrizete, shmera to prwi, pragmatopoihqhke ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, sto Megaro Majimoy, syskech sthn opoia symmeteixan o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy, o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas Giannos Papantwnioy, o ypofainomenos, o dieyqynths toy oikonomikoy Grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Xardoybelhs, kaqws kai o k. Nikos Qemelhs, enocei ths Synodoy toy NATO sthn Praga. Sth syskech ejetasthkan zhthmata, opws h Synodos toy NATO, h poreia toy Kypriakoy, oi ejelijeis gyrw apo ta eqnika qemata mas. Yparxoyn analytikes dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn poy eginan meta to peras ths syskechs.

Eisagwgika, qa hqela na kanw mia parathrhsh, sxetika me tis xqesines dhlwseis toy arxhgoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs k. Kwnstantinoy Karamanlh, poy aforoyn ton Proypologismo. Fainetai oti h Nea Dhmokratia brisketai akomh sthn pro twn dhmotikwn kai nomarxiakwn eklogwn periodo, dioti ejakoloyqei na mhn katalabainei oti to alhstoy mnhmhs "steilte mhnyma", ths epestrafh apo ton idio ton ellhniko lao. Oi dhlwseis toy k. Karamanlh, alla kyriws toy ypeyqynoy gia ta qemata ths oikonomias k. Alogoskoyfh deixnoyn kai pali mia agwnia kai mia prosdokia gia prowres ekloges, oi opoies bebaiws oyte prokeitai na yparjoyn, oyte yparxei logos na yparjoyn. H N.D. endiaferetai mono gia na parei thn ejoysia. Alla me aytes tis politikes kai me th dhmagwgia ths einai bebaion oti kanena den mporei na peisei, ara kai den mporei na to petyxei.

Oson afora to qema oysias, kapoia stigmh o k. Karamanlhs prepei na topoqethqei sthn oysia toy Proypologismoy.

-Ejasfalizei -nai h oxi;- aytos o Proypologismos th synexish ths poreias staqerothtas ths ellhnikhs oikonomias; H apanthsh einai nai.

-Ejasfalizei -nai h oxi;- o Proypologismos th synexish ths poreias anaptyjhs ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai malista me ton prwto h deytero ryqmo mesa sthn E.E.; Safws kai einai etsi.

-Ejasfalizei -nai h oxi;- o Proypologismos me tis poly shmantikes probleceis gia th xrhmatodothsh toy Asfalistikoy Systhmatos poy afora oloys toys Ellhnes kai tis poly shmantikes forologikes elafrynseis, thn enisxysh ths koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs; Emeis apantoyme nai.

Perimenoyme, epiteloys, h N.D. na egkataleicei th dhmagwgia kai na topoqethqei ston Proypologismo kai epi ths oysias. Ektos kai ean den exei ti na proteinei. Ektos kai an oyte h idia gnwrizei poies einai oi qeseis ths gia thn oikonomia. Pantws, me poly endiaferon, perimenoyme na tis maqoyme kai emeis kai o ellhnikos laos.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

TAKHS: Shmera, o k. Royssopoylos ekane mia dhlwsh, me aformh kapoia problech poy yparxei ston Proypologismo gia to pws forologoyntai polites poy exoyn ena alfa eisodhma, to opoio mporoyn na klhrodothsoyn sta paidia toys, dhladh apo ena dis nomizw kai panw einai apo 0,25 mexri 1,6, enw me poly xamhlotera posa h forologia einai peripoy sto 25%. Ypenqymise o k. Roysopoylos oti palaiotera o k. Laliwths pros th N.D. eixe pei oti einai paramagazo toy SEB kai yposthrije oti me ayth th ryqmish apodeiknyete poios telika exei ypogeies diadromes kai poios ejyphretei, me to azhmiwto, tetoies katastaseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Foboymai oti o k. Royssopoylos kai h N.D. akomh den exoyn diabasei ton Proypologismo kai speydoyn na kanoyn dhlwseis kai ektiqentai. Synistw na diabasoyn ton proypologismo gia na doyn oti me seira ryqmisewn eynooyntai idiaitera oi oikonomika asqenesteres tajeis. Einai safes oti oso pio xamhlo eisodhma exei kapoios Ellhnas, toso pio polles einai oi qetikes ryqmiseis poy ton aforoyn. Me ayth thn ennoia o Proypologismos exei safh kateyqynsh thn koinwnikh dikaiosynh.

TAKHS: Ayto, dhladh, poy anaferei o k. Royssopoylos isxyei h oxi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas apanthsa genika. Gia ta eidika qemata mporoyme na doyme toys ariqmoys toy Proypologismoy kai na toys analysoyme. Einai safes oti olo to pneyma toy Proypologismoy einai sth logikh oti oso pio xamhla oikonomika brisketai enas Ellhnas, toso pio shmantikes kai pio polles einai oi enisxyseis. Fainetai ayto se ola ta zhthmata poy exoyn sxesh me thn klimakwsh ths forologias.

IWANNOY: Sas anhsyxei h en pash periptwsei h kybernhsh exei diereynhsei ligo ayto to qema ths patriwtikhs kinhshs poy exei ginei kai me stelexh kai boyleytes toy PASOK, giati yparxoyn kapoia dhmosieymata poy to emfanizoyn, endexomenws, ws mia politikh kinhsh. An exete milhsei me toys boyleytes sas kai pws antimetwpizei h kybernhsh ayth thn kinhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti yparxei kanenas boyleyths toy PASOK poy na mila gia politikh kinhsh. Einai gnwsto oti sto komma mas yparxoyn apoceis kai ekfrazontai. Eimaste ena megalo dhmokratiko komma kai qa exoyme thn eykairia na syzhthsoyme gyrw apo ayta ta qemata kai na katalhjoyme sth Synodo ths K.E., poy qa ginei stis 28 kai 29 Noembrioy.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, poso konta einai o kindynos ean ypografei to Sxedio Anan prin apo thn Kopegxagh na syndeqei h lysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy me thn entajh ths; Giati blepoyme kapoies diaforetikes proseggiseis kai apo ton k. Nte Soto, xqes brady@

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei, kat` arxhn, h xqesinh dhlwsh toy k. Anan, h opoia den emplekei se kamia periptwsh thn entajh ths Kyproy me thn epilysh toy kypriakoy problhmatos. Qelw na katasthsw safes -alla ayto pisteyw oti exei kleisei apo xqes apo ta pleon epishma xeilh ths kybernhshs, dhladh me th dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy- oti se kamia periptwsh den syndeetai h poreia entajhs ths Kyproy me thn epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos. Opws xarakthristika eipe, xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos sto qema ths entajhs h stash mas qa einai idiaitera apofasistikh. Me thn eykairia poy moy dinete qelw, epishs, na pw oti h Toyrkia, kaqws kai h toyrkokypriakh pleyra ofeiloyn na analaboyn tis eyqynes toys. H kypriakh kybernhsh eipe hdh, dia toy k. Nte Soto, pros to Geniko Grammatea toy OHE, oti einai etoimh na arxisei tis diapragmateyseis. Einai gnwsto oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh eixe symfwnhsei me ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Glayko Klhridh, kai se ayth thn kinhsh, kai sto plaisio twn diapragmateysewn. Emeis, loipon, eimaste etoimoi. H toyrkikh kai h toyrkokypriakh pleyra ofeiloyn na analaboyn tis eyqynes toys, wste oi diapragmateyseis na arxisoyn to taxytero dynato. Bebaiws, ean oi proqesmies den eparkesoyn mexri th Synodo ths Kopegxaghs kai ean oi diapragmateyseis synexizontai, einai safes oti qa prepei na synexistoyn, gia na mhn paei ayth h eykairia, se kamia periptwsh, xamenh. Dioti einai mia shmantikh eykairia kai pisteyoyme pws prepei na antapokriqoyn, toso h toyrkikh, oso kai h toyrkokypriakh pleyra.

TSIKRIKA: Yparxei ena dhmosieyma poy anaferei oti yparxei ena ``non paper''. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Prwta ap` ola, prepei na shmeiwsw oti den exoyme parei tetoio xarti. Oydepote efqase sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh tetoio xarti. To deytero poy qelw na epishmanw einai oti piqanon orismenoi na anaferontai sth gnwsth prwtoboylia, poy anelabe h agglikh kybernhsh dia toy yfypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn, gia thn prowqhsh sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn, poy synedriase th Deytera, enos sxedioy apofashs, gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy. Yphrje, omws, amesh antidrash toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn Giwrgoy Papandreoy kai -opws gnwrizete- telika yphrje xqes h dhlwsh ths Danikhs Proedrias, h opoia mas kalyptei apolyta. Dioti, h dhlwsh ths Danikhs Proedrias (h opoia ekfrazei ki emas, alla kai to synolo telika twn Ypoyrgwn poy meteixan sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn), anaferei oti h protash toy k. Anan apotelei bash diapragmateyshs gia thn epiteyjh symfwnias sthn Kypro, me bash kai tis arxes ths E.E. Kai bebaiws, einai logiko h E.E. na enqarrynei aytes tis diapragmateyseis. Mas kalyptei, loipon, apolyta h xqesinh dhlwsh ths Danikhs Proedrias, poy hrqe ws apotelesma ths syzhthshs poy egine sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn. Tonizw kai pali oti se mas den perihlqe pote xarti, oyte apo thn amerikanikh, oyte apo kamia allh pleyra. Gia to mono poy labame gnwsh, opws kai oloi oi ypoyrgoi ths E.E., htan h prwtoboylia ths agglikhs kybernhshs.

BITALHS: Kat` arxas, sto sygkekrimeno dhmosieyma anaferetai oti kai o Prwqypoyrgos kai h politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn htan enhmeroi gia thn ekdhlwsh mias tetoias prwtoboylias....

PRWTOPAPAS: Allo ayto poy lete gia ``amerikaniko non paper'' kai allo h dhlwsh toy Bretanoy yfypoyrgoy.

BITALHS: Gia thn ekdhlwsh mias tetoias prwtoboylias. Kai yparxei kai mia deyterh dieykrinish poy zhtw: To paroysiase o Bretanos k. Stro, o opoios phre thn prwtoboylia..;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, o Bretanos yfypoyrgos...

BITALHS: Mporei. Omws, ayto to @non paper@, ayto to keimeno...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den htan @non paper@. Htan sxedio apofashs ths agglikhs pleyras.

BITALHS: Eseis, dhladh, diaceydete to dhmosieyma poy leei oti htan amerikanikh prwtoboylia, thn opoia ekane @follow up@ h agglikh pleyra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prosexw poly tis ekfraseis moy, gia na mhn dhmioyrgoyme problhmata metajy mas. Topoqetoymai, loipon kai dieykrinizw gia na eimaste idiaitera safeis se qemata ejwterikhs politikhs: Oydepote perihlqe se gnwsh mas opoiodhpote keimeno apo thn amerikanikh pleyra, se sxesh me ta zhthmata poy grafhkan. Den eixame kanena @non paper@ apo toys Amerikanoys. H ellhnikh kybernhsh kai o Ellhnas ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn pote den eidan tetoio xarti kai den gnwrizoyn, ean to eixe h oxi kapoia allh antiproswpeia. Ekeino poy gnwrizoyme einai oti to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn toy Hnwmenoy Basileioy, anelabe mia prwtoboylia gia ena sxedio apofashs, to opoio eteqh th Deytera ypoch twn ``15''. Yphrje antidrash apo thn ellhnikh pleyra, apo ton paristameno Ellhna ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Giwrgo Papandreoy kai to keimeno den prowqhqhke telika gia apofash. Ant` aytoy, yphrje mia prwtoboylia ths Danikhs Proedrias, h opoia ejefrase to klima twn ``15'' me th dhlwsh ths, poy -epanalambanw- kalyptei ki emas apolyta.

ARGYROS: Yparxei kapoia allagh stis synanthseis poy qa exei o Prwqypoyrgos sth Synodo toy NATO;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Na dieykrinisw oti mexri twra (toylaxiston, mexri prin apo mia wra, gia na eimai akribhs) den yphrxe kamia allagh stis synanthseis poy eixa proanaggeilei. Ayto den shmainei oti sthn Praga den mporei na ginoyn kai kapoies alles synanthseis. Den exei oristei, omws, mexri th stigmh ayth, allh synanthsh, peran twn proanaggelqeiswn. Qelw, omws, me thn eykairia na pw oti h Synodos toy NATO sthn Praga einai shmantikh, dioti gia prwth fora to NATO dieyrynetai me thn entajh xwrwn toy tews ``anatolikoy mplok''. Bebaiws, yphrxe kai h symfwnia syndeshs, alla afora eidikh syndesh. H Slobakia, h Slobenia, oi treis baltikes xwres, alla -kai ayto exei ena eidiko endiaferon gia thn Ellada- kai h Roymania kai h Boylgaria qa apotelesoyn pleon xwres-melh toy NATO. Bebaia, se ena neo rolo toy NATO, o opoios den exei sxesh me kapoion kindyno, alla afora qemata asfaleias twn xwrwn-melwn toy, gia thn antimetwpish ths tromokratias. Ena apo ta qemata poy qa apasxolhsoyn toys hgetes twn xwrwn poy symmetexoyn, toso sto periqwrio ths Synodoy, oso kai stis epishmes ergasies ths, einai to qema toy legomenoy eyrwstratoy. Fantazomai oti meta th qetikh dhlwsh poy ekane o k. Erntogan edw, qa yparjei kai kapoia qetikh dhlwsh apo epishma xeilh, apo ton Toyrko Proedro ekei. Den mporw, omws, meta bebaiothtas na problecw ean to qema qa kleisei h oxi sthn Praga. Ayto qa ejarthqei kai apo toys xeirismoys poy qa epilejei h toyrkikh pleyra.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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