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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 9 Oktwbrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Eisagwgika, qelw na sas enhmerwsw oti yparxei dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, meta th synanthsh poy eixe me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias Kwnstantino Stefanopoylo, sthn opoia ekfrazei thn ikanopoihsh toy, th baqia ikanopoihsh mas gia tis plhrofories poy yparxoyn -kai epibebaiwnontai- sxetika me th qetikh ekqesh ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs gia thn entajiakh poreia ths Kyproy.

Shmera, arga to meshmeri, pisteyw oti qa yparjei epishmh dhmosiopoihsh ths sxetikhs ekqeshs, opote qa exoyme thn eykairia na syzhthsoyme analytika, ayrio. Epanalambanw, omws, oti oi teleytaies plhrofories poy exoyme, epibebaiwnoyn oti h ekqesh einai idiaitera qetikh, oti eimaste se kalo dromo gia thn poreia entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E.E. kai, bebaiws, gia th dieyrynsh ths E.E..

Qelw, epishs, na kanw treis eisagwgikes parathrhseis, sxetika me xqesines kai shmerines anafores toy Proedroy ths N.D.. Exoyme, kat` epanalhch, epishmanei oti oi ekloges aytes einai politikes ypo thn ennoia oti krinetai to mellon ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs. Eklegoyme ton kalytero gia Dhmarxo h Nomarxh. Xqes, sth synexeia kai allwn emfanisewn toy, o k. Karamanlhs qa elega oti erije apolyta to proswpeio. Edeije kai apedeije th baqia perifronhsh poy exei se kaqe ennoia aytonomias ths Topikhs kai Nomarxiakhs Aytodioikhshs. Einai gnwsto oti breqhke se sygkentrwsh ths ypochfias nomarxoy k. Tsanakh, thn opoia yposthrizei h N.D. ston Peiraia, opoy to kentriko synqhma htan "Hrqe h wra toy Karamanlh" kai sto opoio antapokriqhke, legontas "eimaste pleiochfia". Opote dyo tina symbainoyn: eite o k. Karamanlhs einai ypochfios gia Dhmarxos h Nomarxhs Peiraia kai oyte ekeinos, oyte emeis to exoyme katalabei, eite o k. Karamanlhs perifronei baqia thn aytonomia ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs, thn opoia qelei na xrhsimopoihsei mono gia toys mikrokommatikoys skopoys toy, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghsei oroys, gia na zhthsei -opws, hdh, zhtoyn ta stelexh toy- thn ptwsh ths kybernhshs thn epomenh twn eklogwn. Bebaiws, h Topikh Aytodioikhsh einai aytonomh. Oi polites gnwrizoyn tis mikrokommatikes logikes toy k. Karamanlh kai qa toy apanthsoyn. Qa apogohteytei oiktra sthn proqesh toy na xrhsimopoihsei thn Topikh Aytodioikhsh, na katapathsei kai malista me ton pio banayso tropo thn aytonomia ths. Eirwneia, de, qa elega einai oti o syndyasmos, sth sygkentrwsh toy opoioy akoysthkan ayta ta synqhmata kai eginan aytes oi energeies, legetai "Eleyqerh Aytodioikhsh". Kai ayto pragmatika einai h eirwneia toy pragmatos kai apodeiknyei, gia allh mia fora, oti gia th N.D. oi ennoies aytonomia kai aytodioikhsh einai plhrws diistamenes. Qeloyn aytodioikhsh me ypallhlikh sxesh, plhrws ejarthmenh, h opoia aplws na ejyphretei mikrokommatika symferonta. Qa apogohteytoyn -epanalambanw- oiktra apo ton idio to lao.

To deytero shmeio, afora anafores toy k. Karamanlh, peri syndiallagwn toy PASOK kai ths kybernhshs, me akrodejies logikes. Qelw na pw to ejhs: To poios paei xeri-xeri me ton Karatzaferh, to eidame poly prosfata kata th synanthsh toy k. Karatzaferh me ton epitimo Proedro ths N.D. gia thn opoia tipota den anakoinwqhke. Kai oxi mono ayto. Briskomenoi se paniko (idiaitera pro ths epikeimenhs apodokimasias twn eklektwn toys kai ejaitias twn dikwn toys laqwn) oi ths N.D. den distasan (kai malista prospaqoyn na to anaparagoyn) enw apokalyfqhke to cema, na xrhsimopoihsoyn syneidhta, ws dhqen enisxytiko twn apocewn toys, ena qema poy hdh eixe kleisei sth Boylh. Prokeitai peri aqliothtas, dioti einai gnwsto oti kai sthn arxikh diatypwsh h tropologia toy k. Flwridh den dhmioyrgoyse kanena qema, epeidh yparxei to chfisma ths Boylhs me to opoio empodizetai h opoiadhpote paroxh se dhmarxoys ths xoyntas, alla kai dioti amesws, kalh th pisth kai se poly syntomo xroniko diasthma, o k. Flwridhs apodexqhke thn parathrhsh toy k. Tzekh kai omofwna h Boylh enekrine. Par` ola ayta, synexisan -kai synexisan kai shmera- ayth thn prospaqeia. Lypoymaste para poly giati yparxoyn politikes paratajeis poy xrhsimopoioyn to ceydos kai thn aqliothta.

To trito shmeio einai oti o k. Karamanlhs apedeije gia mia akomh fora to poso aneyqynh kai laikistikh politikh xrhsimopoiei sto qema ths antimetwpishs ths tromokratias. Den mporei na apodexqei, den mporei na katanohsei, den mporei na omologhsei thn epityxia ths kybernhshs sto meizon qema ths antimetwpishs ths tromokratias, h opoia einai kai epityxia toy ellhnikoy laoy kai ths xwras. Lypoymaste para poly gi` ayto.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Diapistwnw oti sas enoxlhsan ta synqhmata poy akoysthkan xqes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mas enoxlhsan kaqoloy, alla prepei na enhmerwqei o ellhnikos laos, na maqei kala oti se sygkentrwsh ypochfioy nomarxoy akoygotan to synqhma "hrqe h wra toy Karamanlh" kai ekeinos apantoyse "eimaste pleiochfia". Ara, h o k. Karamanlhs einai ypochfios nomarxhs kai oyte eseis, oyte emeis to exoyme katalabei -fantazomai oti den einai etsi- h o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs katapatei, perifronei kaqe ennoia aytonomias kai anejarthsias ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs kai malista ths dhqen eleyqerhs aytodioikhshs twn eklektwn toy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den qa staqw se ayto. Pro hmerwn, se kapoia diadhlwsh poy egine, akoysthkan kapoia alla synqhmata. Tote milhsate gia to megaleio ths dhmokratias. To megaleio ths dhmokratias den xwraei kai synqhmata se sygkentrwsh enos syndyasmoy gia th nomarxia kai me thn paroysia enos politikoy arxhgoy; Giati sth mia periptwsh den hsastan toso epikritikos kai shmera sas blepw na xrhsimopoieite idiaitera ojeis tonoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Hmoyn poly epikritikos kai qa elega kai idiaitera ojys sthn oysia twn synqhmatwn. Den toys apagoreysame na ta ekfwnoyn. Bebaiws den sygkrinontai oi men me toys de. Dioti einai allo na anaferesai se ena megalo dhmokratiko komma kai malista sthn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh kai allo se mia omada poy fwnaze xydaia kai anohta synqhmata. Allo to ena kai allo to allo. H ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, omws, safws qa ypostei kritikh gia synqhmata poy fwnazan oi opadoi ths.

KANELLOPOYLOS: To na akoygontai synqhmata, ta opoia den qigoyn kai den einai ybristika, to megaleio ths dhmokratias den ta xwraei ayta;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pros Qeoy, den apagoreysame tipota. To megaleio ths dhmokratias ola ta xwraei, opws xwraei kai thn kritikh sta synqhmata. Kritikh kanoyme, den apagoreyoyme.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Epeidh shmera h efhmerida "Apogeymatinh" dhmosieyei to porisma kai malista to xarakthrizei "porisma ths ntrophs" gia thn ypoqesh ths Mayo, hqela na sas rwthsw an qa zhthsei syggnwmh h hgesia toy PASOK h o Grammateas k. Kwstas Laliwths, meta to porisma ayto poy ejedwse o eisaggeleas, dioti epi seira mhnwn kai gia arketo xroniko diasthma sykofanthqhke mia oloklhrh paratajh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epi toy qematos exw topoqethqei analytika kai isxyei ayth h topoqethsh. H ypoqesh ayth eixe th sygkekrimenh dikastikh ejelijh. Omws kai mesa apo ta porismata toy eisaggelea fainetai poly kala oti "mayro xrhma" eisereyse sta tameia ths N.D.. Ean ayto den einai paranomo, einai mia allh syzhthsh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Sto porisma poy diabasa, den blepoyme na exei apodeixtei tipota apo ayta poy lete. Kai malista, se ena shmeio, blepoyme oti sthn kataqesh poy exei kanei o k. Polemhs, leei metajy twn allwn sxetika me aytes tis parakties etaireies exoyn xrhmatodothqei kai alloi, exoyn xrhmatodothqei kai alla kommata. Qa hqela na rwthsw, to PASOK qa dexotan elegxo sta oikonomika toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: To PASOK panta dexetai elegxoys sta oikonomika toy, giati den exei tipota na krycei, tipota na fobhqei.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Pws sxoliazete, loipon, to porisma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw topoqethqei kai isxyoyn oi prohgoymenes topoqethseis moy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Eixame ena qema poy epi makron diasthma, qa elega, oti apasxolhse thn epikairothta@

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai topoqethqhkame.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Topoqethqhkate gi` ayto. Wstoso, ta apotelesmata ayth th stigmh den einai tetoia poy qa prepei gia logoys hqikhs tajhs na zhthsei kapoios syggnwmh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa poia einai h hqikh tajh kai poia h topoqethsh mas. Na mhn to epanalambanoyme...

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den to epanalambanw, alla exoyme ena apotelesma mias dikastikhs@

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw topoqethqei toso safws poy den xwrei pleon amfibolia se ayto to qema.

GIAKOYMHS: Blepoyme oti to ergo ston Khfiso, poy exei talaipwrhsei toys katoikoys twn gyrw perioxwn me tis plhmmyres, me apofash ths Ypoyrgoy PEXWDE na ftiaxnetai ek neoy. Malista, kapoioi me bash ayth thn apofash kanoyn logo gia megalo ``fagopoti'' pollwn disekatommyriwn. Kai epeidh, tote, htan Ypoyrgos PEXWDE o shmerinos Grammateas toy PASOK Kwstas Laliwths, qa hqela to sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme koyrastei na akoyme diafores tetoies fhmes kai otan erqei h wra ths apodeijhs toys na mhn yparxei tipota. To ergo epanasxediazetai se orismena shmeia toy, giati proekycan nea dedomena apo ta kairika fainomena. Kala kanei h Ypoyrgos PEXWDE kai proxwrei se prosarmoges.

TAKHS: Epeidh, anaferqhkate stis epikriseis ths N.D. oti to PASOK synergazetai kai bohqa ton k. Karatzaferh. H N.D. ekane ayth th dhlwsh me aformh to beto poy eqese h ka Gennhmata na einai kai o k. Karatzaferhs se ena thleoptiko ``debate''. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto einai ypoqesh ths kas Gennhmata. Emeis den erwthqhkame, kai kalws den erwthqhkame dioti h ka Gennhmata kaqorizei h idia tis emfaniseis ths kai th strathgikh ths paratajhs ths, opws kanei kai o k. Papoytshs kai oloi oi alloi ypochfioi toys opoioys yposthrizoyme. To komma yposthrizei ena programma me bash to opoio exei dwsei th sthrijh toy stoys sygkekrimenoys ypochfioys. Den kaqorizoyme tis apoceis twn ypochfiwn. Den kaqorizoyme tis proteraiothtes toys, oyte tis epiloges toys gia to poy qa emfanistoyn kai ti qa poyn. Allwste, ti eidoys aytonomia ths Aytodioikhshs qa yposthrizame tote;

TAKHS: Den sas kanei entypwsh oti sta dyo ``debate'' den exei zhthsei kai sto trito na qetei ws oro th symmetoxh toy k. Karatzaferh;

PRWTOPAPAS: O kaqenas exei to programma toy, exei kaqorisei tis omilies toy kai den qa ypotajei ton programmatismo toy stis anagkes thleoptikwn h radiofwnikwn staqmwn. Kaqorizei o idios ton tropo me ton opoio qa diejagei ton proeklogiko toy agwna. Me bash thn empeiria poy exw apo to ti ekane h dhmosia thleorash, qa sas pw, oxi giati erwthqhka, alla giati to plhroforhqhka, oti h dhmosia radiothleorash epeleje na einai parontes, kata th diarkeia twn syzhthsewn, oloi oi ypochfioi poy eixan plhreis syndyasmoys. O opoiosdhpote ypochfios exei plhrh syndyasmo, xwris na krinei to Meso tis apoceis toy -dioti bebaiws h kybernhsh, ta kommata ki eseis ws dhmosiografoi mporei na to kanete- kaleitai na yposthrijei to programma toy. Kai to lew prolhptika gia na mhn kathgorhqei h dhmosia radiothleorash kai epeidh deixnei mia swsth antilhch toy Mesoy, symfwna me thn opoia, otan se ena ``debate'' symmetexoyn perissoteroi apo dyo ypochfioi, tote prepei na symmetexoyn oloi. Ayto den einai Dhmokratia; Apo kei kai pera, ean me rwtate an o k. Karatzaferhs exei ekfrasei akrodejies apoceis, tote apantw eyqews, nai.

SOYGLERHS: Pws fqasame liges hmeres prin tis dhmotikes ekloges se ayth thn ojynsh kai thn politikh polwsh poy parathreitai, metajy ths kybernhshs kai olhs ths antipoliteyshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: An diabasete tis xqesines dhlwseis toy k. Karamanlh kai labete ypoch sas ta xqesina synqhmata, qa peisteite apolyta poios einai ypeyqynos gia thn politikh polwsh. Einai h N.D. kai proswpika o arxhgos ths k. Karamanlhs, o opoios nomizei oti oi ekloges einai to efalthrio gia na katalabei, ej efodoy, thn kybernhsh ths xwras. Qa apogohteyqei oiktra. Opoios epixeirhse na xrhsimopoihsei qesmo kai na epibalei lyseis me tetoioys tropoys kai opoios epixeirhse na parabiasei thn ennoia ths aytonomias kai thn anejarthsia ths Aytodioikhshs, phre thn apanthsh apo toys polites.

SOYGLERHS: O k. Shmiths me tis dhlwseis toy den prospaqhse na rijei skia akrodejias sth N.D. me thn ypochfiothta toy k. Karatzaferh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Fantazomai, qa prosejate th dhlwsh moy gia to ``xeri-xeri me ton Karatzaferh''.

MPOTWNHS: Shmera h ``Ayrianh'', exei prwtoselido, opoy sto Dhmo Eleysinas hgeitai toy chfodeltioy poy yposthrizei h N.D. kapoia poy, kata th diarkeia ths diktatorias, htan sth Symboyleytikh Epitroph. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai enas akoma krikos sthn alysida tetoiwn ypochfiwn poy yposthrizei h N.D. Ti xreia exomen apodeijewn;

KARGOYDH: Sth xqesinh omilia toy, o Prwqypoyrgos ekane ena anoigma stoys chfoforoys ths legomenhs kentroaristeras, alla me orizonta, peran ths 20hs Oktwbrioy. Hqela na rwthsw ean h kybernhsh, meta thn 20h Oktwbrioy, protiqetai na analabei prwtoboylies enocei twn epomenwn eqnikwn eklogwn, poy qa aforoyn ta kommata ths Aristeras.

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos apeyqynqhke se oloys toys polites, entassontas se ayth thn kinhsh kai proodeytikoys polites poy proerxontai apo to xwro ths N.D. To eipe onomastika kai eixe na kanei me tis ekloges gia thn Aytodioikhsh, alla kai to sebasmo pros aythn kai thn anadeijh twn kalyterwn ws dhmarxwn kai nomarxwn. Ean me rwtate, gia ta anoigmata kai tis sxeseis toy PASOK me ton eyrytero xwro ths kentroaristeras kai ths aristeras, einai pagia politikh mas h sygkrothsh enos proodeytikoy poloy, gia ton opoio anazhtoyme panta diayloys dialogoy kai analambanoyme prwtoboylies.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: O Prwqypoyrgos, xqes, sthn omilia toy eipe safws oti zhta th sthrijh olwn twn proodeytikwn ypochfiwn, akoma kai aytoys poy briskontai konta sth N.D. -opws eipe- gia thn epiteyjh twn megalwn stoxwn, meta thn 20h Oktwbrioy. Anafere xarakthristika thn entajh ths Kyproy, thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy, th dieyqethsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn, thn proetoimasia ths Olympiadas. Ola ayta einai meta tis dhmotikes ekloges.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eixe na kanei kai me tis dhmotikes ekloges, alla kai ton anaptyjiako rolo ths Aytodioikhshs. Ta qemata ayta den aforoyn olo ton ellhniko lao; Qa eprepe kai to komma ths N.D. se polla apo ayta ta qemata na einai energa paron kai symparastaths sto kybernhtiko ergo. Dioti ta eqnika qemata, ta qemata ths Olympiadas kai ths katapolemhshs ths tromokratias mas aforoyn oloys. Den mporei na emfanizetai o k. Karamanlhs kai na leei peri ``dolianwn texnasmatwn'' gia thn tromokratia kai na kathgorei thn kybernhsh gia thn epityxia ths sthn ejarqrwsh ths 17N. Ayta ta pragmata den exoyn ginei se kamia xwra toy kosmoy.

ANTYPAS: Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh to gegonos oti apaithqhke h parembash toy Proedroy ths Boylhs k. Kaklamanh gia na breqei lysh, gia na arqei to adiejodo sto Dhmo ths Qessalonikhs sto qema ths kaqariothtas;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Proedros ths Boylhs epraje poly orqa, alla qelw na qymisw oti h parembash toy htan analogh ekeinhs poy ekane o ypoyrgos Eswterikwn, o k. K. Skandalidhs, to prwi kai poy epanelaba edw kata th diarkeia ths xqesinhs synanthshs mas. Ti eipe o k. Apostolos Kaklamanhs; Eipe oti qa prepei o k. Papagewrgopoylos, me bash to isxyon plaisio, xwris na xreiastei nea tropologia, na proxwrhsei kai na dwsei to epidoma kai an xreiastei kalych -an yparjei opoiodhpote qema me toys paredroys sto mellon, an kai o idios tonise oti den ektima oti qa yparjei- tote, opws dinei h kybernhsh kalych kai ola ta kommata ths Boylhs mporei na kanoyn to idio. Hrqe enisxytika sthn parembash toy k. Skandalidh kai poly kala epraje o Proedros ths Boylhs. Dioti dieykolyne, me th sthrijh ths protashs toy k. Skandalidh apo ola ta kommata ths Boylhs, wste na breqei lysh sto zhthma. Pragmatika, einai anypostata osa grafhkan shmera peri problhmatos kai "adeiasmatos" kai den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Deixnoyn, epishs, to yfos kai qa elega kai thn prospaqeia diastreblwshs poy epixeiroyn ekeinoi oi opoioi prowqhsan tetoies kinhseis. Einai safes oti einai stelexh ths N.D.

Apo xqes to prwi, epanalambanw, o k. Skandalidhs eixe kanei sygkekrimenh protash. Thn epanelaba to meshmeri kai qa elega oti ejasfalise th sthrijh olwn twn pterygwn ths Boylhs, epi ths idias protashs, o k. Kaklamanhs to brady. Eprepe, loipon, na bgoyme oloi mazi kai na poyme oti "na, breqhke lysh". Ant` aytoy, eidame dhmosieymata ta opoia epixeiroyn na emfanisoyn ton k. Kaklamanh ws antidikoynta me thn kybernhsh. Se kamia periptwsh den yphrje tetoio zhthma.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ep` aytoy, hqela na rwthsw, an h kybernhsh exei eyqynes poy den mazeyontai ta skoypidia sth Qessalonikh. Ante, o k. Papagewrgopoylos den mporei na katebasei toys ergazomenoys, den mporei na toys plhrwsei. H kybernhsh den exei kamia eyqynh;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh, ekei poy ths antistoixoyse h eyqynh, thn eixe analabei edw kai arketes meres kai eixe antapokriqei. Apo ekei kai pera, qelw na sas qymisw oti, otan h kybernhsh dinei to "O.K." alla ta xrhmata den kataballontai, kapoios exei thn eyqynh. Kai aytos, legetai Basilhs Papagewrgopoylos, dhmarxos Qessalonikhs. Qelw na tonisw oti otan ekxwreis armodiothtes sthn Aytodioikhsh, tis ekxwreis gia na tis askei kai oxi gia na peta to "mpalaki" pali sthn kybernhsh.

MPEKAS: Hqela na rwthsw, ean exete enhmerwqei gia to skeptiko ths apofashs toy ESR, poy epebale prostimo sto ALTER, enw sto idio "paraptwma" exoyn ypopesei kai ta ypoloipa kanalia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den krinw apofaseis toy ESR, eidika gia tetoia qemata.

MPOTWNHS: Pws ejhgeitr oti me ekqesh, ereyna, ths INTERPOL, h Ellada einai prwth sthn egklhmatikothta sta Balkania, para ta osa exoyn symbei teleytaia se tromokratia k.t.l.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Leei kai alla h ekqesh. Eida kai thn efhmerida poy eixe prwtoselido to sygkekrimeno qema, h opoia leei oti exoyme polloys egklhmaties apo ekeines tis perioxes. Den pisteyw, omws, oti einai mono ayto. Pisteyw oti sthn Ellada dhlwnontai ta panta, pragma to opoio den symbainei kat` anagkh se oles aytes tis xwres. Gnwrizete oti se orismenes apo aytes tis xwres eixe dhmioyrghqei kai mia idiomorfh mafia, gia thn opoia bebaiws ginetai poly megalh prospaqeia apo tis arxes twn xwrwn aytwn na ejarqrwqei. Tetoia pragmata den exoyme sthn Ellada. H Ellada einai mia asfalhs xwra. Ayrio, qa exoyme thn eykairia na doyme kai tis nees prwtoboylies poy qa ejaggelqoyn apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai ton k. Xrysoxoidh pros ayth thn kateyqynsh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, meta ta osa akoysame, mhpws stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs einai na poinikopoihqoyn kai ta synqhmata se politikes sygkentrwseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Katalabainw poy to pate, alla den qa sas kanw th xarh -epitrecte moy, me olh thn ektimhsh poy sas exw- gia na bgalete titlo gia ayrio. Einai safes oti sta synqhmata qa kanoyme kritikh. Ta synqhmata qa legontai stis poreies kai tis sygkentrwseis kai kritikh qa yfistantai apo opoioys akoygontai. Opws bebaiws qa kritikarete kai ta dika mas synqhmata stis dikes mas sygkentrwseis.

SOYGLERHS: Mporeite na kanete mia ektimhsh, ean h politikh antiparaqesh metajy toy k. Shmith kai toy k. Karamanlh qa synexistei mexri ayrio kai meqayrio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den prokeitai gia politikh antiparaqesh metajy toy k. Shmith kai toy k. Karamanlh. Prokeitai gia politikh antiparaqesh twn dyo kommatwn, h opoia, otan bebaiws yparxoyn qemata, qa synexizetai. Dioti, einai kai systatiko stoixeio ths Dhmokratias h antiparaqesh. Arkei na einai antiparaqesh idewn kai epixeirhmatwn.

MPEKAS: Epeidh o logos gia ta synqhmata, an den kanw laqos sth sygkentrwsh toy k. Tsilibh sthn Tripolh, o kosmos fwnaze ston k. Shmith "eisai kai qa eisai o prwqypoyrgos".

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, qelw na sas epishmanw oti o k. Shmiths den apanthse se synqhmata. O k. Karamanlhs, epishmainw, den phge na episkefqei kapoio eklogiko kentro. O k. Karamanlhs exei metatrapei se omilhth, ypokaqistwntas to synolo twn nomarxwn poy yposthrizei se olh th xwra. Eidika, sth sygkentrwsh ths legomenhs "eleyqerhs Aytodioikhshs" otan akoygetai oti "hrqe h wra toy Karamanlh" kai o idios antapokrinetai, legontas "eimaste pleiochfia", tonizw gia allh mia fora oti dyo tina prepei na symbainoyn: @H na einai ypochfios nomarxhs o idios kai profanws eyelpistei sth nikh toy h oti oi ennoies "aytonomia Aytodioikhshs" kai "politikh N.D." einai plhrws asymbates. Bebaiws, isxyei to deytero.

PITTARAS: Qa hqela ena sxolio gia thn apofash twn benzinopwlwn na proxwrhsoyn se apergia diarkeias, meta thn aporrich twn aithmatwn toys apo ton k. Flwridh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to qema ayto, qa yparjoyn analytikes anakoinwseis apo to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn kai ton k. Flwridh. Ekeino poy qelw na pw einai oti se oles tis periptwseis prepei na briskontai lyseis, mesa apo dialogo. H kybernhsh epiqymei kai dinei panta lyseis, gi` ayto den eixame -opws gnwrizete- eidika megales kinhtopoihseis olo ayto to diasthma. Qelw na qymisw se oloys oti pantote o dialogos kai h synainesh einai h kalyterh lysh gia na antimetwpisoyme ta problhmata.

Sas eyxaristw.

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