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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 18 Septembrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GIAKOYMHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela na sas rwthsw an ontws yparxei antiparaqesh, metajy toy k. Xristodoylakh kai toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy, ystera kai apo ta shmerina dhmosieymata, sto qema ths diaforetikhs oikonomikhs politikhs poy fainetai na exei o enas apo ton allon, idiaitera sto qema twn timwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kanenos eidoys antiparaqesh. Ejalloy, me shmerines dhlwseis toy gia to qema ayto, o k. Tsoxatzopoylos dieceyse, me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo, tis sxetikes fhmes. Qelw na sas qymisw oti ayrio synerxetai to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio poy qa ejetasei ola ayta ta qemata. Yparxei synennohsh metajy toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy kai toy k. Xristodoylakh kai meta to peras ths synedriashs toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy qa ginoyn sxetikes anakoinwseis.

Proqesh mas einai na dwsoyme me oles tis dynameis mas th maxh kata ths akribeias. Einai ena qema poy mas apasxolei oloys. H kybernhsh, sto plaisio mias anoikths eleyqerhs agoras, ofeilei na xrhsimopoihsei ola ta opla poy exei sta xeria ths gia na prostateysei to eisodhma toy ellhnikoy laoy. Kai qa to kanei. Na eiste bebaioi gi` ayto.

MPOYATAR: Xqes, o Genikos Dieyqynths ths dieyrynshs ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, sxedon apekleise na doqei sto prosexes mellon hmeromhnia enarjhs dialogoy gia thn entajh ths Toyrkias kai problece oti mallon qa jespasei, me aformh thn Atyph Synodo sthn Kopegxagh, mia meizonos ektashs krish metajy Toyrkias kai E.E. Pws sxoliazete aytes tis dhlwseis kai tis prooptikes poy anaferontai;

PRWTOPAPAS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh den qelei na jespasei kamia krish Toyrkias-E.E. Gnwrizete oti, me th doyleia mas, sthn E.E. kai ta organa ths, exoyme symbalei kat` epanalhch sthn enisxysh ths eyrwpaikhs poreias ths Toyrkias. Bebaiws, ayto shmainei oti kai h Toyrkia qa einai synephs stis ypoxrewseis poy exei analabei me bash ta Symperasmata ths Synodoy toy Elsinki. Gnwrizete oti yparxoyn qemata poy syndeontai me ta anqrwpina dikaiwmata, me thn eirhnh kai th synergasia sthn perioxh, kaqws epishs kai me to Kypriako. Qelw na pisteyw oti h eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias qa synexistei. Ayto, omws, exei na kanei kai me tis epiloges ths idias ths Toyrkias, ths kybernhshs ths. Oson afora thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, h qesh mas einai staqerh: Eimaste etoimoi kai qeloyme -mesa sto plaisio poy prodiegraca, omws- na enisxysoyme thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias.

ANTYPAS: O Typos twn Skopiwn, meta tis ekloges poy eginan sth geitonikh xwra, sas epitiqetai, legontas oti arnhqhkate na sxoliasete th nikh twn Sosialistwn sta Skopia. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ws ekproswpos ths kybernhshs, einai logiko oti den mporw na mpainw sta eswterika allwn xwrwn, oyte na sxoliazw eklogika apotelesmata. Bebaiws, den yparxei epiqesh apo ton skopiano Typo. Anafora yparxei. Ekeino poy qelw na sxoliasw me ikanopoihsh einai oti oi ekloges diejhxqhsan se ena klima hremias. Yphrje mia wrimh kai dhmokratikh symperifora apo oloys, se ena kratos poy talaipwrhqhke poly prosfata apo diamaxes. Omws, den mporoyme na kanoyme sxolia gia to an kerdise to a@ h to b@ komma. Eimaste etoimoi na synergastoyme me thn kybernhsh twn Skopiwn gia na antimetwpisoyme ta opoia qemata yparxoyn akomh kai, bebaiws, gia na empedwsoyme thn eirhnh, thn asfaleia kai th synergasia sth Notioanatolikh Eyrwph. Ayto eipa kai proxqes. Hdh, opws gnwrizete, apo xqes yphrje thlefwnikh epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Tserbenkofski, se kalo klima kai elpizw oti qa syzhthqoyn ola ta qemata poy mas xwrizoyn.

GARGALAKOS: O k. Mhtsotakhs se synenteyjh toy, qewrei oti mono to ektelestiko kommati ths 17N ejoydeterwqhke kai oxi aytoi poy epairnan tis apofaseis. Exete kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qelw na sxoliasw, sto synolo ths, th synenteyjh toy k. Mhtsotakh, dioti einai safes oti h synenteyjh toy epitimoy Proedroy ths N.D. den mporei na mas briskei symfwnoys. Gia paradeigma, exei anafores stis opoies diafwnoyme, opws se qemata ths ejwterikhs politikhs kai ths tromokratias. Qelw, omws, na shmeiwsw oti, para tis diafwnies poy exei kaneis me to periexomeno ths synenteyjhs, yparxoyn kai qemata sta opoia o k. Mhtsotakhs emfanizei kapoies nees qeseis. Gia paradeigma, einai isws apo ta liga stelexh ths N.D. poy anagnwrizoyn th doyleia poy exei ginei. Anaferetai malista onomastika ston Prwqypoyrgo kai ton Ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs. Ayto einai shmantiko. Apo ekei kai pera, qetei kapoia erwthmata poy emeis mporei na mh symfwnoyme. Ekeino poy qelw na jekaqarisw einai oti h ereyna proxwra kai qa proxwrhsei se baqos. To koybari qa jetylixqei. An o k. Mhtsotakhs h opoiosdhpote allos exei stoixeia na kataqesei h na qesei kapoia sygkekrimena zhthmata, einai eyprosdekta. Qa elega oti prepei na prosejoyme ayta ta zhthmata, xwris kamia diaqesh antidikias me kanenan. Qelw na parathrhsw oti me to na bgainoyme na leme oti "den eimai bebaios", oti "isws yparxei kati allo sto tade h sto deina shmeio" kai alla tetoia, otan ayto poy lew den mporw na to sthrijw, dhmioyrgw ena qema, rixnw skies, xwris na yparxei kanenas logos. Kai ayto einai laqos. Ekeino poy qelw na diabebaiwsw einai oti h ereyna qa proxwrhsei se baqos. Ayth einai h kateyqynsh ths kybernhshs. Exoyme empistosynh stis dikastikes arxes poy xeirizontai ta qemata. Kaneis den exei na krycei tipota. H kybernhsh -opws poly kala epraje ws twra- exei anaqesei thn ereyna stis dikastikes arxes kai qa synexisei na kineitai sthn idia kateyqynsh. Exei apodeixqei oti den exoyme na krycoyme tipota. Opws, epishs, exei fanei poso epikindyna kai atyxh htan ayta poy akoygame epi 27 xronia gia anamijh toy PASOK kai toy PAK palaiotera me tis tromokratikes organwseis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Epeidh eseis anaferqhkate se ejwterika qemata, se poia shmeia diafwneite eseis me ton k. Mhtsotakh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia paradeigma, kanei kritikh gia ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn kai einai safes oti den mas briskei symfwnoys h kritikh toy. Den xreiazetai filosofia ayto. Exoyme teleiws diaforetikh antilhch se ayto.

ALEJAKHS: Shmera to Xrhmatisthrio espase allo ena rekor, katw apo tis 1900 sta 1800, meta gyrise pali. Fobatai h kybernhsh oti to poly kako klima poy epikratei sthn kefalaiagora mporei na metakinhqei pros thn oikonomia; Kai deyteron, pws synadei to gegonos oti den yparxei antistoixia, anamesa stoys ryqmoys anaptyjhs ths xwras kai thn kefalaiagora;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme pei, kat` epanalhch, gia to qema ths kefalaiagoras, oti oso ligotero parembainoyme sto Xrhmatisthrio, toso to kalytero. As afhsoyme to XAA na exei th dikh toy poreia. H oikonomia mas einai ygihs kai anaptyssetai me gorgoys ryqmoys. Aytoi oi ryqmoi anaptyjhs, ayth h ygihs poreia ths oikonomias mas kai h enisxysh ths antagwnistikothtas ths, qa apotypwqoyn se ola kai fysika sthn kefalaiagora. Omws, einai ena zhthma gia to opoio den prepei na "panhgyrizoyme" otan kati paei kala kai den prepei na dhmioyrgoyme thn aisqhsh ths apaisiodojias, otan kati den paei kala.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Dhlwseis kybernhtikwn stelexwn palaiotera, nomizw kai toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy, aneferan oti h poreia toy XAA antanakla thn poreia ths oikonomias. Den isxyei ayto pia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Thn antanakla, alla ayto den ginetai se diasthma hmerwn. Apotypwnetai kai ginetai mesa se mia makroxronh periodo. H poreia ths oikonomias mas, opws gnwrizete, einai poly kalh kai ayto den to leme mono emeis. Proxqes, h E.E. anagnwrise oti h oikonomia mas anaptyssetai me 10plasioys ryqmoys apo o,ti o mesos oros ths Eyrwphs. Epishs, gnwrizete oti h oikonomia mas exei staqeres baseis kai proxwra sto diko ths antagwnistiko dromo mesa sthn Enwmenh Eyrwph. As exoyme ypomonh. Den xreiazontai parembaseis. Na eiste bebaioi oti ayth h poreia qa apotypwqei se oloys toys tomeis.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Ma, ayth h poreia einai ptwtikh gia megalo xroniko diasthma.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn pairnete kapoia diasthmata poy mporei na ofeilontai se dieqnh fainomena. Gnwrizete oti yparxoyn problhmata sta Xrhmatisthria dieqnws, ayth th stigmh, poy ofeilontai se mia perirreoysa atmosfaira anasfaleias, opws gia paradeigma gyrw apo thn piqanothta polemoy sto Irak. As mhn ajiologoyme statika ta fainomena. As maqoyme na blepoyme tis oikonomikes ejelijeis se eyrytero plaisio. Anamfibola exoyn ginei laqh sto parelqon se ayto ton tomea, alla ayto den shmainei oti prepei na epanalambanontai.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Se synenteyjh toy shmera sthn "APOGEYMATINH", o k. Mhtsotakhs qetei mia seira erwthmata pros thn kybernhsh kai metajy allwn, zhta na anoijoyn oi fakeloi twn tromokratikwn epiqesewn poy eginan enantion toy kai sygkekrimena...

PRWTOPAPAS: To exw diabasei.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Yparxei tetoia proqesh na anoijoyn oi fakeloi aytoi twn tromokratikwn epiqesewn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kanenas fakelos den qa meinei kleistos. Oloi oi "fakeloi" qa anoijoyn, oles oi ypoqeseis ths tromokratias qa diereynhqoyn se baqos. Se ayto na eiste apolytws bebaioi. To exoyme dhlwsei, me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo, se oloys toys tomeis. To koybari poy jekinhse na jetyligetai qa fqasei mexri teloys. Qeloyme na pisteyoyme oti apo thn ereyna poy dienergeitai, apo tis eisaggelikes kai dikastikes arxes, me th bohqeia twn arxwn asfaleias, me th genikoterh politikh eyqynh kai th syndromh mas, qa doqoyn apanthseis se ola ta erwthmata poy exoyn oi polites. Alla, se ola ta erwthmata poy einai pragmatika. Kai qelw na to shmeiwsw ayto ws genikh parathrhsh kai oxi ws eidikh. An gia paradeigma, eite o k. Mhtsotakhs, eite opoiosdhpote politikos exei kapoia erwthmata dika toy kai ta qetei, den shmainei oti ypoxrewtika ayta ta erwthmata aphxoyn mia pragmatikh katastash.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den nomizw oti einai erwthmata poy aforoyn ton idio. Einai tromokratikes energeies aytes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to lew ayto gia tis epiqeseis. To lew, giati eida na diatypwnontai apoceis toy typoy, an einai mono ayth h 17N h an yparxoyn kai merikoi alloi kai poioi einai, poias kathgorias einai k.t.l. Qesh mas einai na fqasoyme thn ereyna se baqos. Mesa apo ayth th doyleia qa doqoyn apanthseis se ola ta pragmatika erwthmata poy yparxoyn. Elpizoyme oti qa doqoyn apanthseis se oles tis ypoqeseis. Ayth einai h kateyqynsh poy yparxei. Ayth einai h proqesh mas. Kai nomizw oti ayto ikanopoiei oloys. Bebaiws, panta me th doyleia poy qa ginei kai symfwna me ta eyrhmata poy qa exoyn toso oi arxes asfaleias, oso kai oi dikastes kai oi eisaggeleis poy exoyn analabei tis ypoqeseis.

KANELLOPOYLOS: O prwhn prwqypoyrgos leei kai kati allo: Mila gia diabrwsh sto strateyma apo thn tromokratia. H ereyna strefetai kai pros ayth thn kateyqynsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to apodexomai. Se kamia periptwsh den mporei na apodexqei kapoios oti exei diabrwqei to strateyma apo thn tromokratia. Qelw na jekaqarisw oti opoios exei stoixeia, mporei na ta proskomisei gia na doyme telika poy sthrizontai oloi aytoi oi isxyrismoi. Emeis den arnoymaste thn ereyna. Alla, prin diatypwsoyme enan isxyrismo, prepei na ton tekmhriwnoyme kiolas. Opoios exei stoixeia h qemata ta opoia mporei na bohqhsoyn thn ereyna poy ginetai ayth th stigmh, parakalw poly na ta kataqesei. Gia paradeigma, akoysthke apo kapoioys alloys oti dhqen o Koyfontinas exei sxesh me thn KYP. Katalabainete poly kala oti apo thn anakrish poy exei ginei den prokyptei apo poyqena kati tetoio. Oxi, loipon, na kataskeyazoyme monoi mas erwthmata kai na ta qetoyme, alla ta erwthmata ayta na aphxoyn pragmatikes katastaseis. Bebaiws, yparxoyn akomh tromokratikes epiqeseis, oi opoies prepei na diereynhqoyn. Den exoyme paei akomh oyte sthn 1h Mah, oyte ston ELA, oyte se alles tromokratikes organwseis. Qa ginei, omws, ayto. Kai den aisqanomai apologhtika na to lew, dioti exoyme hdh tis prwtes megales epityxies. Poios mporoyse na dianohqei mexri protinos oti qa yphrxan toso megales epityxies; Kai aytes prepei na anagnwristoyn akribws gia na eimaste kaqaroi sth sxesh mas gia th synexeia.

MOYRTZHS: O neos presbeyths ths Germanias dhlwse xqes oti h Germania qa parasxei opoiadhpote syndromh ths zhthsei h ellhnikh kybernhsh gia tis sxeseis ellhnikwn tromokratikwn organwsewn me th STAZI. Meta th syllhch twn melwn ths 17N, exoyn prokycei erwthmatika, poy qa prepei na apanthqoyn apo th germanikh pleyra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti prin apo arketa xronia eixan apostalei apo tis germanikes arxes antigrafa twn arxeiwn ths STAZI, ta opoia me th seira mas diabibasame stoys armodioys eisaggeleis, sth Dikaiosynh, gia na ginei h sxetikh ereyna. Prepei, epishs, na sas pw oti graptws, apo to Septembrio toy 2000, exoyme zhthsei apo tis germanikes arxes na mas steiloyn o,ti symplhrwmatika stoixeia yphrxan h alla arxeia poy mporei na yphrxan gia qemata tromokratias. Ektote, yparxoyn peran twn graptwn kai epaneilhmmenes proforikes oxlhseis gia thn ikanopoihsh toy aithmatos. To aithma ayto den exei ikanopoihqei mexri twra, den exoyme parei apanthsh apo tis germanikes arxes.

MOYRTZHS: Qa epanelqete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanerxomaste synexws. Yparxei eggrafo apo to Septembrio toy 2000 poy doqhke stis germanikes arxes, me to opoio zhtame, ws ellhnikh kybernhsh, na mas doqoyn o,ti stoixeia yparxoyn gia thn katapolemhsh ths tromokratias, apo ta arxeia ths STAZI, o,ti mporoyme na broyme poy qa mas htan xrhsimo pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Exoyn ginei epaneilhmmena oxlhseis, oi opoies den amfisbhtoyntai apo kanenan, gia opoion toylaxiston gnwrizei thn ypoqesh, ston tomea ayto, dia ths epishmoy odoy. Mexri twra den exoyme parei apanthsh gia logoys poy kata kairoys epikaloyntai oi Germanoi. Pote, omws, den mas lene ``oxi''. Kaqe fora mas lene ``qa ginei''. Den exei ginei mexri twra.

MOYRTZHS: Giati den antapokrinontai kata thn apoch sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na gnwrizw giati den antapokrinontai oi arxes mias allhs xwras. Einai ena qema poy afora th Germania. Emeis to zhtame. Me ayth thn ennoia, den htan swsth h parathrhsh toy k. Presbh.

GARGALAKOS: Alla, eipe o k. Presbhs oti qa dwsei stoixeia mono gi` aytoys poy qa yparjei kathgoria, dhladh, prepei na apaggelqoyn prwta kathgories.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti exoyn apaggelqei kathgories. En pash periptwsei, to aithma exei ypoblhqei, isxyei kai me xara qa paroyme, otan mas ta dwsoyn, ta stoixeia poy mporei na bohqhsoyn sthn ereyna mas.

MOYRTZHS: Xqes, h ``AYRIANH'' eixe ena reportaz gia toys logoys poy oi staqmarxes ths CIA apomakrynqhkan apo thn Ellada. Epikaleitai rhjh me ton Amerikano presbh k. Miler. Sas exei problhmatisei; Emplekei kai kapoion epixeirhmatia sto dhmosieyma.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa sxoliasw qema poy afora eswterikes diadikasies alloy kratoys.

KARGOYDH: Sto prohgoymeno erwthma, epeidh yparxoyn polles ektimhseis gia thn ajiopistia twn arxeiwn ths STAZI, alloi qewroyn peripoy ``eyaggelio'' ayta ta arxeia, alloi qewroyn oti sto megalytero baqmo einai xalkeymena. H ektimhsh twn ellhnikwn arxwn, oson afora thn ajiopistia toys, poia einai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Perimenete na kanw thn ektimhsh ws kybernhsh ths ajiopistias, genikws, mias mystikhs yphresias allhs xwras; Den einai o rolos mas na poyme ean einai kala h oxi ta arxeia. O rolos mas einai na diereynhsoyme o,ti stoixeia periexontai sta arxeia, ta opoia aforoyn th drash ths tromokratias sthn Ellada. Ean kati apobei xrhsimo, qa fanei. Mporei na yparxei kati poy na apodeixqei xrhsimo. Den mporoyme na to gnwrizoyme ayto. Ypoxrewsh mas omws einai na to diereynhsoyme. Me ayth thn ennoia, exoyme zhthsei - ta palaiotera arxeia poy exoyn erqei ta exoyme ajiopoihsei- symplhrwmatikes plhrofories eggrafws, dia ths epishmoy odoy. Exoyme epanelqei epaneilhmmena me parembaseis kai -opws exoyme pei- perimenoyme tis apanthseis. Mexri stigmhs, den exoyme tipota.

ARGYROS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxoyn alles skeceis, ektos apo th sklhrh apoch toy k. Benizeloy gia to qema twn PAE, kaqws kykloforoyn ektimhseis oti isws ayto to plhrwsei h kybernhsh stis dhmotikes ekloges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai apoch mono toy k. Benizeloy. Einai apoch oloklhrhs ths kybernhshs. Kai den einai sklhrh. Einai realistikh kai brisketai sthn kateyqynsh yperaspishs twn symferontwn toy ellhnikoy laoy. Den jerw, ean yparxoyn apeiles, oi opoies ektojeyontai apo to stoma diaforwn proedrwn PAE, alla h kybernhsh den prokeitai na dexqei apeiles kai ekbiasmoys. Proqesh mas einai na proxwrhsoyme ygiws kai sto podosfairo kai sto genikotero xwro toy ellhnikoy aqlhtismoy. Qeloyme na yparxei ygihs antagwnismos kai amilla. H Politeia qelei na einai synephs stis ypoxrewseis ths. Den prokeitai pote na xrhmatodothsei idiwtikes etaireies me ta xrhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy. As frontisoyn kai oi paragontes poy dioikoyn tis PAE na kinoyntai se plaisio ejygianshs toy xwroy toys, ejygianshs twn etaireiwn toys, ajiopoihshs twn opoiwn epidothsewn problepontai apo toys nomoys kai yparxoyn, alla kai swsths askhshs -me eyqynh- toy ergoy toys. Den mporei na perimenoyme monimws apo ton ellhniko lao na primodotei kapoioys poy metaballoyn tis podosfairikes anwnymes etaireies se kratikodiaita swmateia. Makria apo emas ayth h antilhch. Exei apolyto dikio to ypoyrgeio Politismoy kai Aqlhtismoy poy ekane aytes tis kinhseis.

MPOTWNHS: Blepoyme aytes tis hmeres thn antiparaqesh anamesa se dhmosiografoys kai MME, politikoys, tromokrates na apeiloyn. Ayth h eikona sas ikanopoiei; Kai deyteron, tiqentai kai qemata swfronistikoy kwdika, giati akoygontai kai alles plhrofories. Rwtw ean sas apasxolei kai ean qa parete kapoia prwtoboylia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sto plaisio toy swfronistikoy kwdika kai twn nomwn kinoymaste kai se ayto to plaisio energoyme. Yparxei h syntetagmenh politeia, yparxei h organwmenh koinwnia poy exei ayto to rolo. Den einai dikh mas proqesh na krinoyme synadelfoys sas. Den exoyme kanena logo. Ekeino poy exoyme epishmanei eyqarsws apo thn prwth stigmh, einai oti to zhtoymeno den einai mono na katadikastoyn oi tromokrates, oi opoioi omologoyn ejalloy oti einai tromokrates, paradeigma, toso o Jhros, oso kai o Koyfontinas poy to paradexontai dhmosiws. To qema einai na apomyqopoihqei h tromokratia. Giati qa einai pragmati dramatiko na synexisoyn na yparxoyn tetoies sygxyseis kai stis epomenes genees. H tromokratia einai apeilh gia th Dhmokratia. H symperifora mas apenanti sthn tromokratia prepei na einai kaqarh kai na dinei to mhnyma pros oles tis kateyqynseis. Ayto apotelei mia politikh diapistwsh, mia politikh anagkh me thn opoia emeis exoyme syntaxqei.

Kleinontas thn enhmerwsh mas, qelw na kanw ena sxolio: Yparxei mia dhlwsh toy k. Mhtsotakh gia to qema twn symbasewn toy aerodromioy kai twn oikonomikwn toy PASOK. Kat` arxas, qelw na epanalabw th xqesinh moy dhlwsh gia to qema ths MAYO. Qelw na tonisw oti, oytws h allws, egine antilhpto apo ton ellhniko lao oti ta xrhmata eisereysan apo th liberianh etaireia sto tameio ths N.D. Kai den nomizw oti xreiazetai na epanelqoyme se ayto, dioti egine akrws antilhpto apo oloys. Ekeino poy qelw na tonisw einai oti den eimaste emeis poy fobomaste ton elegxo stis symbaseis poy exoyme ypogracei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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