Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-07-11

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 11 Ioylioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase shmera to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me antikeimeno syzhthshs tria qemata:

Prwton, thn enhmerwsh apo ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs gia tis ejelijeis kai thn proodo twn mexri twra ereynwn gia thn patajh ths tromokratias. Deyteron, thn enhmerwsh apo ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs kai thn epilogh twn anwtatwn dikastikwn gia thn plhrwsh twn qesewn poy ekkremoysan.

Triton, thn prwtoboylia gia thn analhch apo thn Ellada ths EXPO 2008, sth Qessalonikh.

Oson afora to prwto qema, o Prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Shmiths, tonise oti h Astynomia exei kanei, mexri shmera, poly kalh doyleia. Proxwrhse grhgora kai systhmatika. Eixe kanei mia para poly kalh proetoimasia. H antapokrish ths htan amesh kai ta diafora stoixeia mporesan na syndeqoyn se draseis katadiwjhs poy eixan qetika apotelesmata. Omws -ypogrammise o Prwqypoyrgos- para to oti exoyme polla stoixeia, einai fanero oti xreiazetai pollh ereyna akomh. Yparxei enas ogkos doyleias, poy den teleiwnei apo th mia mera sthn allh kai qa prepei na einai kaneis prosektikos, wste nai men na ajiopoiei synexws ayta ta stoixeia, alla bebaia orismena oristika symperasmata den mporei na prokycoyn para monon otan qa yparjei synolikh eikona apo ta eyrhmata. Shmeiwse, epishs, oti xreiazontai stoixeia, ta opoia qa apodeiknyoyn thn eyqynh orismenwn proswpwn, giati qeloyme na thrhsoyme diadikasies poy einai apolyta peistikes kai nomimes. Ayto shmainei oti yparxei akomh dromos gia na stoixeioqethqoyn ta egklhmata, alla kai gia na odhghqoyn oloi osoi qa enexontai sta dikasthria kai na yparjoyn sxetikes apofaseis. Einai fanero -prosqese o Prwqypoyrgos- oti orismenoi qa qelhsoyn, se olh ayth thn poreia, na probaloyn diafora qemata, prospaqwntas na meiwsoyn thn epityxia, th shmasia twn apotelesmatwn poy eixame. Ena tetoio epixeirhma poy exei akoystei einai oti dhqen den prokeitai na piasoyme toys kyrioys ypeyqynoys, den prokeitai na piasoyme aytoys poy krybontai apo pisw. Ayto se kamia periptwsh den alhqeyei. Qa toys piasoyme oloys kai qa entopisoyme oloys aytoys poy prepei kai qa yparxei plhrhs dhmosiothta. Pisteyw -eipe o Prwqypoyrgos- oti mia apo tis epityxies poy eixame mexri twra einai oti yphrxe sobarothta kai sygkrathsh se ayto to qema, wste na proxwrei h ereyna kai h taytopoihsh -opws einai o oros- se sxesh me stoixeia kai proswpa, na mhn yparjoyn bebiasmenes kinhseis poy odhgoyn se arnhtika apotelesmata.

Ena allo stoixeio poy merikoi proballoyn einai oti dhqen ginontai paranomies kai dhqen den efarmozetai to Syntagma. Omws, oi nomoi efarmozontai kai den prokeitai na yparjei kamia paratypia. Qeloyme na ginoyn ola fanera, orata kai mesa apo nomimes diadikasies. O Prwqypoyrgos ypogrammise pws, epi 27 xronia, qewroysame to qema ths tromokratias algos ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Htan ena qema poy talaipwroyse th xwra, ena apo ta megala problhmata, se sxesh me th diejagwgh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Ara, osa ginontai einai poly shmantika. Exoyme kanei ena megalo bhma mprosta. Omws, prepei na to synexisoyme me prosoxh kai apofasistikothta, wste na rixtei apleto fws se ayth thn ypoqesh, na ginoyn ola katanohta sto koino. Bebaiws, prepei na yperaspizomaste th doyleia poy kanoyme, giati ayto deixnei oti, an doyleyoyme swsta, mporoyme na exoyme apotelesmata. O Prwqypoyrgos ejefrase thn plhrh symparastash kai sthrijh toy sthn prospaqeia toy ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs Mixalh Xrysoxoidh, toy ypoyrgeioy kai twn Arxwn Asfaleias. Poreyomaste me sobarothta kai eyqynh, wste na feroyme qetika apotelesmata, na ejarqrwsoyme oloklhrwtika thn tromokratia sth xwra mas, katelhje o Prwqypoyrgos.

O ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs Mixalhs Xrysoxoidhs, sthn parembash toy, eipe, metajy allwn, oti qa ftasoyme mexri to telos, thn plhrh ejarqrwsh ths organwshs, alla kai thn plhrh ejarqrwsh toy fainomenoy ths tromokratias sthn Ellada. Prepei na dwsoyme mia kaqarh apanthsh ston ellhniko lao, to epomeno diasthma, gia olo to fainomeno ths tromokratias. Na odhghqei sth dikaiosynh mesa apo syntetagmenes diadikasies. H poreia mas, apo edw kai pera, prepei na einai poreia eyqynhs mexri to telos gia thn ejarqrwsh kai ejixniash, ths tromokratias, panta me dhmokratiko tropo. Na eimaste apotelesmatikoi. Me thn plhrh ejixniash toy fainomenoy -eipe kleinontas o ypoyrgos- pera apo thn apomyqopoihsh ths idias ths organwshs, dialyetai kai mia seira myqwn poy kallierghqhkan sthn ellhnikh koinwnia, ta teleytaia xronia. Kleinei ena kefalaio poy taytizetai xronika me th metapoliteysh sth xwra mas.

Oson afora to deytero qema, yphrje analytikh enhmerwsh apo ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs Filippo Petsalniko, gia thn poreia twn allagwn poy synteloyntai sta qemata dikaiosynhs kai toy swfronistikoy systhmatos. Yphrje omofwnh egkrish apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio oloy toy programmatismoy poy ekteleitai. Polloi ypoyrgoi edwsan ta sygxarhthria toys ston k. Petsalniko gia th doyleia poy synteleitai sto ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs.

Meta apo eishghsh toy k. Petsalnikoy kai omofwnh apofash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy epeleghsan ws: Proedros toy Areioy Pagoy o mexri twra Antiproedros k. Gewrgios Kappos, Eisaggeleas toy Areioy Pagoy o mexri twra Antiproedros k. Eyaggelos Kroystalakhs kai Antiproedroi toy Areioy Pagoy oi Areopagites kyrioi Petros Kakales, Kwnstantinos Tsamados, Arxonths Ntobas, Panagiwths Filippopoylos, Dhmhtrhs Soyltanias kai Dhmhtrhs Linos. Gia to Symboylio ths Epikrateias, epelegh ws Antiproedros o k. Gewrgios Anemogiannhs. Kai -panta me omofwnh apofash- gia to Elegktiko Synedrio, ws Genikos Epitropos o k. Basileios Xasapogiannhs kai ws Antiproedroi oi kyrioi Gewrgios Sxoiniwtakhs kai Eystaqios Rontogiannhs.

Oson afora to trito qema, ths diekdikhshs ths EXPO 2008, meta apo eishghsh toy ypoyrgoy Makedonias - Qrakhs Giwrgoy Pasxalidh kai th syzhthsh poy egine yphrje omofwnh apofash gia th sygkrothsh epitrophs diekdikhshs ths EXPO 2008, poy qa ginei sth Qessalonikh, me syntonisth toy egxeirhmatos ton ypoyrgo Makedonias-Qrakhs. O k. Pasxalidhs exei probei se analytikes anakoinwseis stis opoies sas parapempw. Einai pragmati mia poly spoydaia kinhsh kai qeloyme na elpizoyme oti h syntonismenh doyleia poy qa ginei qa ferei sthn Ellada thn EXPO 2008, me qema "Anqrwpwn diktya".

Sth synexeia, elabe to logo o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas Giannos Papantwnioy, o opoios mas enhmerwse gia ta qemata poy syndeontai me to idiaitera lyphro gegonos ths syntribhs toy elikopteroy sthn Kypro kai to qanato twn pente ajiwmatikwn. To Ypoyrgiko Symboylio ejefrase th lyph toy kai th symparastash toy stis oikogeneies twn qymatwn kai thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia. Kaqoristhke oti stis khdeies poy qa ginoyn qa parabreqei, ekproswpwntas thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas Giannos Papantwnioy.

Akoloyqws, elabe to logo h ypoyrgos PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy, h opoia enhmerwse gia thn poreia twn aytociwn poy oloklhrwnontai, gia tis zhmies poy proklhqhkan apo tis plhmmyres. Milhse gia ta problhmata poy paroysiasthkan kai tonise oti qa yparjoyn taxytates diadikasies apo to YPEXWDE, wste na proxwrhsoyme to syntomotero dynato sthn katabolh twn apozhmiwsewn. Ejalloy, opws gnwrizete, h idia h ypoyrgos episkefqhke to Mosxato kai eixe thn eykairia na syzhthsei me toys foreis kai toys katoikoys ths perioxhs gia ta problhmata poy dhmioyrghqhkan kai fysika na dromologhsei th lysh toys.

Qa hqela na synexisw me ena allo qema, epeidh emfanisthkan orismena problhmata gyrw apo tis proxqesines dhlwseis moy gia to ESR. Kat` arxas, exw tonisei oti sthn Ellada den prepei se tetoia eidika zhthmata na diylizoyme ton kwnwpa kai na katapinoyme thn kamhlo. Prepei na topoqetoymaste oloi panw sthn oysia twn problhmatwn. Qelw, omws, na qymisw oti kai diadikastika yparxei mia seira problecewn poy kaqistoyn apolyta qemith thn energeia mas.

Qa hqela na sas diabasw apospasma apo dyo nomoys:

-Prwton, o nomos 2644/98, anaferei oti, se periptwsh parabiashs twn kanonwn deontologias -opws ayth prosdiorizetai sto arqro 3 toy nomoy- to ESR apofasizei aytepaggeltws h meta apo erwthma toy ypoyrgoy Typoy & MME h meta apo kataggelia pantos exontos ennomo symferon. Dhladh, h idia anafora qa mporoyse na ginei apo ton opoiodhpote eixe ennomo symferon kai oxi mono apo emena. Htan apolyta qemito.

-Deyteron, o nomos 2863/2000, poy anaferetai eidika sto ESR -sto arqro 4, par. 1, ed. e@- kanei safh anafora ston prohgoymeno nomo. Isxyei, dhladh, kai me ton eidiko kanonistiko nomo poy yphrje gia thn anejarthsia toy ESR, apolytws to edafio toy 2644. To arqro 10, par. 2 toy nomoy 2863/2000, anaferei: "To Ypoyrgeio Typoy & MME apeyqynei sthn anejarthth arxh toy tomea paradoxhs radiofwnikwn kai thleoptikwn yphresiwn, ara toy ESR, erwthmata, odhgies, kaqws kai ermhneytikes egkyklioys gia thn efarmogh twn oikeiwn nomwn kai twn kanonistikwn prajewn".

Epomenws, qa hqela na parakalesw ekeinoys poy exoyn kanei sxetikes dhlwseis kai anafores, na diabasoyn toys sxetikoys nomoys kai na katanohsoyn oti h Politeia den einai aneyqynh. Oti exei politikes eyqynes gyrw apo ta symbainonta sto radiothleoptiko topio kai tis askei, symfwna akribws me tis epitages toy Syntagmatos kai twn nomwn mas, kaqws kai me plhrh sebasmo sto ESR.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

IWANNOY: Qa qelame to sxolio sas gia th xqesinh dhmoskophsh ths "Metron Analysis" poy symperilambanei kai kapoies apo tis meres twn apokalycewn twn diwktikwn arxwn sxetika me th 17N. Paroysiazetai mia elafra anakamch ths kybernhtikhs paratajhs. Kleinei elaxista h calida. Pisteyete oti an ayto to qema paei kala, qa apodwsei kai politika ofelh sto komma sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, poy qewrw kai shmantiko, sas lew oti den exoyme kamia diaqesh, alla kai kamia proqesh na antimetwpisoyme to meizon qema ths katapolemhshs ths tromokratias, gia th xwra mas kai thn koinwnia mas, apo th skopia ths prosporishs opoioydhpote mikrokommatikoy ofeloys. Den prosdokoyme mikrokommatika ofelh apo ayto to meizon qema. Mas endiaferei na xtyphqei kai na ejarqrwqei h tromokratia kai qeloyme, elpizoyme kai prosdokoyme, na exoyme th symbolh olwn twn dynamewn kai olwn twn forewn ths koinwnias mas sthn prospaqeia mas.

Sxetika me to erwthma poy moy qesate gia th dhmoskophsh, qa hqela na pw oti isxyoyn osa eixa pei gia thn prohgoymenh dhmoskophsh. Oles oi dhmoskophseis exoyn th dikh toys ajia kai einai mia fwtografia -ean mporoyme na to poyme etsi- ths koinhs gnwmhs, se mia sygkekrimenh stigmh, apotypwnoyn dhladh osa diadramatizontai ekeinh thn periodo. Qa prosejate oti, pragmati ayth, h dhmoskophsh exei diaforetikes taxythtes, me bash kai to idiaitera sobaro gegonos, sto opoio anaferqhkate. Kaqe dhmoskophsh, loipon, exei th dikh ths ajia kai fwtografizei ta gegonota poy exoyn symbei mia sygkekrimenh xronikh stigmh. Epomenws, ayto poy prepei na mas endiaferei -kai ayto apodeiknyetai sthn idia th dhmoskophsh- einai na kanoyme swsta th doyleia mas. Na prowqoyme to programma mas kai na lynoyme ta problhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy. Tote, qa eimaste bebaioi oti h ekfrash ths qelhshs toy laoy stis boyleytikes ekloges, opws to 2000, etsi kai to 2004, qa anadeijei to PASOK sthn kybernhsh.

IWANNOY: Qa hqela na mas dieykrinisete ayto poy eipe o k. Xrysoxoidhs, oti mazi me thn apomyqopoihsh ths sygkekrimenhs organwshs kai ths tromokratias, qa kleisei kai ena megalo kefalaio poy talaipwrhse th metapoliteytikh Ellada. Einai apanthsh stis kata kairoys aitiaseis ths N.D. gia symmetoxh h emplokh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Einai mia poly oysiastikh diapistwsh gia to pragmatiko periexomeno ths drashs twn tromokratikwn organwsewn. Gnwrizete oti merikoi epixeiroysan na myqopoihsoyn h na daimonopoihsoyn aytes tis tromokratikes organwseis. Yparxei to pragmatiko periexomeno ths drashs toys. Diaprattoyn egklhmata, tromokratikes energeies, energeies poy strefontai kata ths koinwnias kai bebaiws, qelw na sas qymisw, oti exoyn probei kai se arketes alles paranomes prajeis, plhn twn dolofoniwn, opws einai lhsteies k.t.l., poy deixnoyn kaqara poio einai to periexomeno ths drashs toys. Prokeitai peri egklhmatikwn energeiwn. Ayth einai h oysia.

ARGYROS: Mhpws o k. Petsalnikos h o k. Xrysoxoidhs edwsan ena xronodiagramma pros to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio gia to pote qa ginoyn oi syllhceis h pote qa stoixeioqethqoyn ta stoixeia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apanthsa sthn eisagwgh poy ekana.

KARGOYDH: Se poioys kyriws apeyqynetai o Prwqypoyrgos, otan leei oti exei akoystei oti oi ellhnikes arxes den protiqentai na piasoyn toys kyriws ypeyqynoys kai toys paraskhniakoys synergates toys. Apo poy antlei ayth thn ektimhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala poioi exoyn kanei tetoies dhlwseis, kata kairoys kai sta radiothleoptika Mesa.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora thn apomyqopoihsh k.t.l., ennoeite oti, apo ta stoixeia poy exei ypoch ths h kybernhsh, qa yparjei ideologikos apoxrwmatismos ths olhs drasthriothtas ayths ths organwshs kai oti exoyme na kanoyme me koinoys egklhmaties toy poinikoy dikaioy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme na kanoyme me koinoys egklhmaties kai prepei na mpei sthn pragmatikh diastash ths ayth h istoria.

ALEJAKHS: Prin apo ligh wra, paraithqhke o Ismahl Tzem. Pisteyete oti qa ephreastei h diadikasia proseggishs me thn Toyrkia kai pws ektima tis ejelijeis h ellhnikh pleyra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Parakoloyqoyme tis ejelijeis sth geitonikh xwra, alla se kamia periptwsh den mporei kai den prepei na parembainoyme sta eswterika qemata mias allhs xwras.

ALEJAKHS: Se sxesh me thn proseggish;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti den parembainoyme sta eswterika allwn xwrwn.

ALEJAKHS: Epeidh se megalo pososto h diadikasia anasxeshs twn prohgoymenwn nootropiwn poy yphrxan stis dyo xwres basisthke poly sthn proswpikh sxesh poy eixe o Giwrgos Papandreoy me ton Ismahl Tzem, twra feygei o enas polos, pws ektimate thn katastash;

PRWTOPAPAS: Basisthke se mia oloklhrwmenh kai systhmatikh doyleia, h opoia egine apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh kai eidikotera apo to ellhniko ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, se olh th Dieqnh Koinothta kai bebaiws pros th geitona xwra. Einai mia oloklhrwmenh doyleia, einai mia ejairetikh doyleia, h opoia apodidei karpoys. Qeloyme na pisteyoyme oti synexizontas thn politikh ayth qa ejakoloyqhsei na apodidei karpoys.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Mhpws mporeite na mas peite orismena apo ta stoixeia poy edwse h ka Papandreoy gia to synolo twn zhmiwn apo thn kataigida, se posoys exoyn katastrafei ta spitia toys...

PRWTOPAPAS: H ka Papandreoy den edwse sygkekrimena stoixeia, giati, ej oswn gnwrizw, shmera oloklhrwnetai h katagrafh twn zhmiwn. Molis oloklhrwqoyn oi diadikasies katagrafhs, qa doqoyn sth dhmosiothta ta plhrh stoixeia.

MPOTWNHS: Apozhmiwseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi apozhmiwseis stoys plhgentes qa doqoyn to syntomotero dynato. Th qelhsh ayth ejefrase, hdh, h Ypoyrgos PEXWDE.

ELENOPOYLOS: Milhsate gia ``koinoys egklhmaties''. Qelw na rwthsw, ean ayth h diapistwsh ths kybernhshs afora olh th diadromh ths ``17N''.

PRWTOPAPAS: Milhsa gia sygkekrimena zhthmata, poy sxetizontai me th drash ths ``17N'', alla kai allwn tromokratikwn organwsewn. Otan dolofoneis kai otan, pera apo tis dolofonies, yparxoyn kai lhsteies kai alla egklhmata koinoy poinikoy dikaioy h poy empiptoyn sto koino poiniko dikaio, qa prepei na dwsoyme thn pragmatikh diastash se aytes tis energeies. Kai ayth, apodidetai me th lejh ``egklhmatikh''.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Epeidh parakoloyqeite, exoyme ena ``xalazi'' me fwtografies, me ta profil, me thn proeleysh kai poy pane...Ta stoixeia poy exoyn oi arxes Asfaleias, toys odhgoyn sto symperasma oti eprokeito gia ena dolofoniko kataskeyasma me kanena ideologiko baqos, para prokalymma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa kai prin kai to epanalambanw, oti kaqenas krinetai apo tis meqodoys kai tis prajeis toy. H ellhnikh koinwnia exei topoqethqei safws. Den xreiazetai na kanoyme synexeis anafores. H tromokratia einai apeilh gia th Dhmokratia, einai apeilh gia thn koinwnia mas.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh, me bash ta stoixeia poy exei...

PRWTOPAPAS: H qesh ths kybernhshs einai safhs. H tromokratia einai apeilh gia th Dhmokratia kai gia thn koinwnia.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Ean ta pragmata einai etsi, oi diwktikes arxes kai h kybernhsh qa parotrynoyn ekeinoys poy dinoyn stoixeia, me entonh ideopolitikh fortish gia toys egkefaloys h toys symmetexontas sth ``17N'', na stamathsoyn, giati opws lete, prokeitai gia koinoys egklhmaties toy poinikoy dikaioy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti eimai apo toys prwtoys -bebaiws to kaqhkon moy ekana, den isxyrizomai oti ekana kati perissotero- poy exw topoqethqei, kai malista me ychloys tonoys, panw se aytes tis praktikes. Kai jerw oti exw enoxlhsei diaforoys kyrioys, oi opoioi se kapoia bradina trapezia moy epitiqentai me diafores aitiaseis, dioti hqelan na metatrecoyn thn olh ayth istoria se emporio kai qeatro. Den peirazei, exoyme ypomonh. H organwmenh Politeia kanei th doyleia ths. Exoyme Dhmokratia sthn Ellada, mporei na lene o,ti qeloyn. Den qa mpw kai den qa toys akoloyqhsw se aytoy toy eidoys tis aitiaseis. Qewrw oti exoyme kanei to kaqhkon mas. Qa ejakoloyqhsoyme na to kanoyme me pisth. Qa katadikazoyme kaqe aparadekto fainomeno, kaqe prospaqeia dhmioyrgias ayths ths idiaitera sobarhs doyleias se emporio qeamatos, se emporio akroamatikothtas kai qeamatikothtas. Qa katadikazoyme kaqenan poy ``paizei en oy paiktois''. Yparxoyn, bebaiws kai ta symperasmata poy bgazei o ellhnikos laos. Emeis, ayto poy eixame na poyme to ekfrasame, to eipame kai thn Paraskeyh, to epanalabame kai th Deytera kai thn Trith to brady kai na eiste bebaioi oti qa synexisoyme na to leme. O kaqenas exei to dikaiwma na ekfrazei antiqeto logo, alla oyte kai emas mporei na fimwsei.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Epeidh twra toses meres prospaqw na katalabw poio einai to kaqestws krathshs toy Jhroy kai den mporw na to katalabw, sas rwtw giati den blepw ti einai ayto poy empodizei thn kybernhsh h tis diwktikes arxes na afhsoyn ton Jhro h telos pantwn toys goneis toy na synanthqoyn mazi toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prwton, exoyn synanthqei kai deyteron, qelw na prosejete thn arxikh moy parembash.

Sas eyxaristw.

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