Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-06-12

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 12 Ioynioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw gia th xqesinh anakoinwsh toy k. Abramopoyloy, me thn opoia anastellei th drasthriothta toy KEP. Pws to sxoliazei h kybernhsh kai poia einai h ektimhsh ths gia ta senaria poy feroyn ton k. Abramopoyloy na prosxwrei syntoma sth N.D.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporoyme na kanoyme ektimhseis gia "oikogeneiakes" ypoqeseis. Ekeino to opoio, omws, mporoyme na ejagoyme ws politiko symperasma einai oti to KEP ekleise ton kyklo toy. Kai ekleise ton kyklo toy, gia polloys logoys. H apoysia politikoy kai programmatikoy logoy, h apoysia sygkekrimenwn protasewn kai parembasewn panw sta meizona problhmata ths xwras kai twn politwn, dhmioyrgei adiejoda. Kai otan ta adiejoda ayta enteinontai odhgoyn se apofaseis, opws h xqesinh.

KAPPOS: Hqela to sxolio sas gia to gegonos oti, opws enhmerwse kai h Kypriakh Dhmokratia, sto katexomeno meros ths Kyproy exoyn metaferqei tis teleytaies hmeres gyrw stis 4.500 stratiwtes, epipleon barys oplismos, nosokomeiakes monades. Ti shmainei ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn sxetikes shmerines anakoinwseis kai anafores toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas ths Kyproy k. S. Xasikoy, stis opoies sas parapempw. Symmerizomai tis apoceis toy. H Toyrkia klimakwnei mia seira apo proklhtikes kinhseis, me stoxo na apoprosanatolisei apo ta kyria zhthmata, poy einai h epilysh toy Kypriakoy kai h entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E.. Epixeirei na dhmioyrghsei deytereyonta metwpa kai na metatrecei th diafora ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas me thn Toyrkia, th diafora ths E.E. me thn Toyrkia, se ellhno-toyrkikh diafora. To kalytero poy exoyme na kanoyme einai na synexisoyme th strathgikh mas, lambanontas bebaiws ola ta anagkaia metra se epimeroys problhmata. Alla, to kentriko metwpo ths strathgikhs mas, prepei panta na einai strammeno sthn kateyqynsh poy hdh exoyme xarajei.

KAPPOS: Epeidh ayth h metakinhsh strateymatwn exei kai ena xarakthra apeilhs kat` arxhn kai sth synexeia epiqetikhs energeias...

PRWTOPAPAS: Profanws ginetai me thn epiklhsh diejagwghs askhsewn. Alla, anejarthta apo ayto, den pisteyw oti yparxei tetoios fobos. Ekeino poy qelw na tonisw einai oti profanestata -kai yioqetw tis apoceis ths kypriakhs pleyras- prokeitai gia mia akomh energeia sthn alysida twn proklhtikwn energeiwn poy ws monadiko stoxo exoyn na metatrecoyn th diafora Dieqnoys Koinothtas-Toyrkias, th diafora E.E.-Toyrkias, poy yparxei ayth th stigmh, se diafora Elladas-Toyrkias. Emeis, bebaiws, jeroyme se kaqe periptwsh na yperaspizoyme ta eqnika dikaia mas, alla tonizw oti to kyrio metwpo twn energeiwn mas, to kyrio endiaferon mas einai strammeno, opws panta, sthn idia kateyqynsh: Na lyqei to Kypriako kai na entaxqei h Kypros sthn E.E. Dyo qemata poy bebaiws einai jexwrista metajy toys.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pantws, apotelei gegonos oti toyrkika strateymata erxontai synexws sthn Kypro. Exoyn fqasei panw apo 40.000 stratiwtes, 500 tanks, barea opla. Enocei kai ths askhshs "Qalassolykos", poy qa ephreasei kai thn Kypro tis epomenes hmeres, opote qa exoyme parabaseis kai parabiaseis, dierwtwmai an h ellhnikh kybernhsh -dioti h kypriakh kybernhsh hdh to exei kanei, apo o,ti plhroforoymai- exei antidrasei se dieqnh forum, se dieqneis organismoys, gia tis proklhseis twn Toyrkwn, wste na yparxei mia fwnh diamartyrias.

PRWTOPAPAS: Pantote metaferoyme tis entypwseis kai ta problhmata poy dhmioyrgei h toyrkikh adiallajia. Yparxei plhrhs enhmerwsh ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas gyrw apo ayta ta dedomena.

KALARITHS: Ayth h kinhsh twn Toyrkwn erxetai na prosteqei se mia seira allwn energeiwn: Thn epektash twn xwrikwn ydatwn toy ceydokratoys...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ypenqymizw oti ayto den exei nomimh bash kai ara den yfistatai.

KALARITHS: ...alla kai thn palaioterh proqesh toys gia allagh toy status quo sta Barwsia. Ola ayta parapempoyn kai se taktika pleonekthmata. Exei apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh to endexomeno ola ayta na mhn synistoyn prospaqeia apoprosanatolismoy, alla epixeirhsiakh proetoimasia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti yparxei tetoio qema. Bebaiws, omws, h Ellada jerei na yperaspizetai panta ta eqnika dikaia ths. Alla, ayth th stigmh -opws katalabainoyme poly kala- oles aytes oi pragmati proklhtikes energeies einai entagmenes se ena stoxo: Na dhmioyrghsoyn deytereyonta metwpa kai na aposyroyn to endiaferon ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas apo toys megaloys stoxoys, poy ayth th stigmh proseggizontai.

PEGKOS: Me dedomeno oti oi dhmoskophseis edeixnan oti o Dhmhtrhs Abramopoylos epairne megalytero kommati chfoforwn apo to PASOK kai oxi apo th N.D., h dialysh toy kommatos toy eynoei thn kybernhsh h ths dyskoleyei ta sxedia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den leitoyrgei etsi h kybernhsh. Me tis dhmoskophseis, apo o,ti fainetai, leitoyrgoysan alloi. Dioti to KEP htan gennhma twn gkalop kai h dialysh toy htan pali apotelesma twn gkalop. To PASOK kai h kybernhsh toy den leitoyrgoyn me ayta ta dedomena. Epomenws, den ejartwntai oi kinhseis mas apo tis metrhseis. Oi metrhseis diamorfwnontai, kaqe fora, me bash to politiko klima kai ta symperasmata twn politwn. Qelw na tonisw oti analyseis poy exoyn th logikh oti kapoios mporei otan kanei mia diaforetikh epilogh na afhsei to synolo twn diateqeimenwn na ton chfisoyn einai lanqasmenes. O k. Abramopoylos ejefraze mia piqanh prosdokia kapoiwn anqrwpwn se mia logikh enos aytonomoy kommatos. Tipota den apodeiknyei kai tipota den mporei na sthrijei to gegonos oti aytoi oi anqrwpoi mporei na einai diateqeimenoi na akoloyqhsoyn thn poreia toy mexri xqes epikefalhs toys, se ena allo komma.

GARGALAKOS: Wstoso, thn kybernhsh den thn apasxolei to gegonos oti odeyoyme se dhmotikes ekloges kai "ayrio" se boyleytikes ekloges, th stigmh poy sto men PASOK yparxoyn fainomena eswstrefeias, sth de N.D. mia eyryterh symparatajh kai syspeirwsh dynamewn; Den sas problhmatizei ws kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ola mas problhmatizoyn. Kaqe arnhtiko fainomeno mas problhmatizei, alla den arkei mono na mas problhmatizei, prepei kai na to jepername. Kai gia na to jepername prepei na prowqoyme to ergo mas, na koitame th doyleia mas, na apodeiknyoyme ston polith oti eimaste xrhsimoi kai gia thn prowqhsh twn symferontwn toy kai gia th xwra. Kai ayto kanoyme kai etsi qa synexisoyme.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Apasxolei thn kybernhsh enas allos tropos analyshs toy fainomenoy ths Kentrodejias kai ths Kentroaristeras pleon sthn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exete qesei ena megalo ideologiko zhthma poy den mporei na ejantlhqei sto plaisio ths politikhs enhmerwshs. Ektimw oti h Syndiaskech toy PASOK poy qa synelqei ton Ioylio, prepei na dei kai tetoia zhthmata. Exoyme ayth th stigmh thn anagkh na epanaprosdiorisoyme to rolo ths Aristeras kai ths Kentroaristeras sthn Eyrwph kai thn Ellada kai na diamorfwsoyme to neo sygxrono logo kai sthn E.E. kai sth xwra mas. Ayta ta zhthmata apasxoloyn to komma mas kai bebaiws qa apasxolhsoyn, pisteyw, kai th Syndiaskech.

MIXAHL: O k. Katsanebas prin apo ligo ekane mia dhlwsh sth Boylh, oti qa teqei qema hgesias sto PASOK meta tis dhmotikes ekloges gia tis opoies profanws prodikase oti qa einai "qanasimo" to apotelesma. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete, exw to staqero prosanatolismo na mh sxoliazw dhlwseis boyleytwn kai stelexwn mas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Exoyme kati neotero gia to qema toy eyrwstratoy; Giati to topio einai skoteino meta th xqesinh synanthsh Aqnar-Shmith.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eixa proanaggeilei kai apo xqes oti den prokeitai na lyqei to qema sth synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Aqnar. Se ayth th synanthsh syzhthqhkan ola ta qemata ths Synodoy Koryfhs. Opws to metanasteytiko, ta qemata allaghs ths diadikasias toy Symboylioy, ta qemata ths dieyrynshs kai bebaiws to qema toy ESDP. Se ola ayta ta zhthmata anthllaghsan apoceis, se orismena yphrjan symfwnies, yphrjan qemata ta opoia kratoyntai gia peraiterw ereyna kai yphrxan kai shmeia ta opoia qetei h Ellada. Sto qema toy ESDP anthllaghsan apoceis, yphrje problhmatismos, enhmerwqhke analytika o k. Aqnar, akomh mia fora, gia tis ellhnikes protaseis kai tis sygkekrimenes parathrhseis mas. Bebaiws, aytes oi syzhthseis qa synexistoyn. Mhn pernaei h apoch oti eimaste sta proqyra symfwnias. Exei anoijei enas problhmatismos, yparxoyn idees, apoceis kai protaseis, alla exoyme pollh doyleia kai dromo akomh.

BITALHS: Epeidh ayth h diaboyleysh ths Aqhnas me thn ispanikh Proedria kai ayth h kinhtikothta, exoyn peripoy 25 meres poy ginontai, hqela na gnwrizw to ejhs: Sth xqesinh antallagh apocewn poy egine anamesa ston Prwqypoyrgo kai ton k. Aqnar, mhpws o k. Aqnar proskomise kapoio kainoyrgio stoixeio panw stoys problhmatismoys poy exei qesei h ellhnikh pleyra kai tis tropopoihseis poy zhtaei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Se kaqe syzhthsh prostiqentai idees, prwtoboylies, apoceis, problhmatismoi. Einai safes ayto. Gi` ayto ginontai oi syzhthseis. Den yparxei, omws, kati ayth th stigmh poy mporei na mas kanei na ekfrasoyme thn aisiodojia mas oti einai sigoyrh h lysh. Oxi, den exoyme kati tetoio ayth thn wra. Synexizontai oi syzhthseis kai oi prwtoboylies. Exoyme akomh poly dromo.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pantws, to qema metaferetai twra sth Sebillh kai metaferetai apo xwra se xwra.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme arketo dromo mexri th Sebillh.

MOYRTZHS: Eystaqei ena dhmosieyma toy "Eqnoys", symfwna me to opoio o Prwqypoyrgos eixe dwsei entolh sth nomikh toy symboylo na kanei agwgh kata twn prytanikwn arxwn toy Panteioy Panepisthmioy, afoy o misqos toy, opws anaferei to dhmosieyma, anti na phgainei se koinwfeleis skopoys exei ejafanistei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yphrje, ontws, ena problhma sthn Panteio. Sygkekrimena o Prwqypoyrgos eixe dwsei entolh kapoia posa poy edikaioyto kai o misqos toy na phgainoyn gia mia seira koinwfeleis skopoys, opws sth biblioqhkh ths Panteioy k.o.k. Yphrje ena problhma sth diaxeirish aytwn twn poswn, opws kai allwn poswn poy yphrxan apo analoges periptwseis apo ypallhloys. Yparxoyn katalogismoi se baros ypallhlwn kai bebaiws anamenoyme th synexeia ayths ths ypoqeshs.

MOYRTZHS: Na epanelqw sto xqesino qema me ton k. Pantagia...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kanena qema me ton k. Pantagia.

MOYRTZHS: Telika jekaqaristhke oti einai diakritoi oi roloi sas kai to erwthma moy einai, ean egine kamia parembash xqes h shmera, giati oysiastika ypobaqmisate to rolo toy kai ton emfanisate ws ``ampigier'' toy k. Shmith;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw kai pali th xqesinh topoqethsh moy poy fobamai oti par` oti hsastan sthn aiqoysa, den th sygkrathsate kala.

PEGKOS: Yparxoyn prosqeta metra froyrhshs sthn odo Anagnwstopoyloy h ean exei kleisei o dromos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Xqes perasa apo thn odo Anagnwstopoyloy.

POYLIDOY: Shmera exei kleisei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporei na ginetai kapoia ereyna, ayth th stigmh. Den to gnwrizw, qa sas plhroforhsw. Xqes pantws perasa apo thn odo Anagnwstopoyloy. En pash periptwsei, sta qemata asfaleias pantote yparxei mia eyaisqhsia. Qa enhmerwqeite egkairws.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Exete kapoio sxolio gia osa synebhsan xqes sth Boylh kai eidikotera gia th dhlwsh toy grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths N.D. oti epixeirhqhke ``koinoboyleytiko prajikophma'';

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayta einai asthriktoi kai yperbolikoi xarakthrismoi. Einai mia apo tis synhqeis yperboles poy xarakthrizoyn thn politikh ths N.D. Kat` arxas, den yphrje kanena meizon qema. Nomizw oti htan pragmati kaqoristikhs shmasias, idiaitera shmantikh, h parembash toy Proedroy ths Boylhs, o opoios para poly swsta parenebh sto qema, tonise oti den yparxei qema antisyntagmatikothtas kai egkyrothtas ths diadikasias. Kai ayto to apodexqhkan oloi. Den yphrje diaforetikos logos apo kanenan sth syskech poy egine ypo ton Proedro ths Boylhs. Symfwnhqhke, loipon, oti den yparxei qema antisyntagmatikothtas kai egkyrothtas twn diadikasiwn. Kai bebaiws, o Proedros ths Boylhs, me thn eyaisqhsia poy pantote ton diakrinei, zhthse apo thn kybernhsh na ylopoihsei to eylogo aithma ths antipoliteyshs, na proskomistei kai h ekqesh toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy. Gia to logo ayto doqhke o aparaithtos xronos kai synexizetai kanonika, xwris kanena problhma kai idiws problhma antisyntagmatikothtas, h synedriash ths Koinoboyleytikhs Epitrophs, thn Pempth to prwi.

MIXAHL: Na sas ypobalw mia erwthsh, ws ypoyrgoy Typoy: Poy briskomaste sto qema twn adeiwn ths analogikhs syndromhtikhs thleorashs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei doqei entolh na diabibastoyn oi fakeloi, afoy oloklhrwqhke h prwth fash toy elegxoy, sto ESR.

MIXAHL: Pote qa ginei ayto, shmera, ayrio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei doqei h entolh na diabibastoyn oi fakeloi sto ESR. Profanws, apaiteitai kapoia diadikasia, h opoia qa einai poly syntomh.

MIXAHL: Qa qesete katalhktikh hmeromhnia kai pali, giati thn prohgoymenh fora eixate qesei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den qa qesw katalhktikh hmeromhnia. Mhn jexnate oti to ESR einai idiaitera ``fresko'', dioristhke molis twra. Epomenws, qa einai h prwth doyleia poy qa kanei. Prepei na deijoyme katanohsh sta arxika toy bhmata. To kalytero einai na toys afhsoyme anephreastoys na kanoyn th doyleia toys swsta kai anejarthta. Qa toys diabibastoyn oi fakeloi kai to ESR qa apofasisei.

MIXAHL: En pash periptwsei, ean krathsei tesseris, pente, eji mhnes, einai logiko, na dhmioyrghqoyn problhmata. Apo persi jekinhse h diadikasia kai tis dwsate Ioynio...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti exoyn synedriasei mono mia fora, typika. Kateyqeian toys anatiqetai ena pragmatika terastio ergo gia to opoio einai apolytws ikanoi kai gnwstes toy antikeimenoy, alla, bebaiws, einai to prwto poy kanoyn. Epeidh qeloyme na kanoyme swsth doyleia, den qa qesoyme katalhktikh hmeromhnia. Einai poly aplo. Nomizw oti ayto apaitei kai h deontologia. Dioti otan stelneis toys fakeloys kai einai o prwtos elegxos poy qa ginei apo to neo ESR, katanooyme poly kala oti prepei na thrhqoyn kai oloi oi deontologikoi kanones. Den nomizw oti yparxei qema.

KAPPOS: Hqela na sas rwthsw twra poy sthnontai gefyres anamesa sth N.D. kai ton k. Abramopoylo, ean antistoixa apo thn pleyra ths kybernhtikhs paratajhs, brisketai se ejelijh diadikasia sthsimatos, na to pw etsi, antistoixwn gefyrwn me stelexh ta opoia, kata diasthmata, exoyn apoxwrhsei apo to PASOK h exoyn dhmioyrghsei kai nea kommata;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa me bohqoysate ean moy dieykrinizate se ti anafereste.

KAPPOS: Pros thn kateyqynsh stelexwn toy DHKKI...

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti sto plaisio twn epafwn poy eixe to PASOK me to Grammatea toy Kwsta Laliwth, epidiwxqhkan epafes me ola ta kommata, plhn N.D. Bebaiws kai to DHKKI einai ena apo ta kommata poy briskontai ston eyrytero xwro ths kentroaristeras. Den exoyme kamia arnhsh na syzhthsoyme me to DHKKI. Ean yphrje arnhsh, den yphrje apo th dikh mas pleyra.

Sas eyxaristw.

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