Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-03-12

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 12 Martioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Prin jekinhsoyme th synhqh diadikasia, sas ofeilw mia apanthsh sxetika me xqesinh erwthsh sas, an qa ypografei kapoia symfwnia anamesa sthn Ellada kai to Iran kata th diarkeia ths epishmhs episkechs toy Proedroy toy Iran k. Xatami. Sas plhroforw, loipon, oti qa ypografoyn treis symfwnies:

H prwth afora th synergasia gia telwneiaka qemata.

H deyterh ena ektelestiko morfwtiko programma. Kai,

H trith afora ena mnhmonio metajy ths DEPA kai ths antistoixhs iranikhs yphresias gia energeiaka qemata.

Yparxei, epishs, periptwsh na ypografei ena mnhmonio synergasias metajy twn ypoyrgeiwn Ejwterikwn, kaqws kai mia symfwnia gia thn amoibaia prostasia kai prowqhsh twn ependysewn metajy twn dyo xwrwn.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, qelw na sas plhroforhsw, oti kata th diarkeia ths xqesinhs synedriashs toy Symboylioy Genikwn Ypoqesewn syzhthqhke kai to qema toy Mesanatolikoy. Yphrxe malista kai mia prwtoboylia, mia sygkekrimenh protash pente shmeiwn apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Giwrgo Papandreoy. Den exoyme labei thn epistolh toy proedreyontos toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, Prwqypoyrgoy ths Ispanias k. Aznar, gia to pws qa diamorfwqei h hmerhsia diatajh ths Synodoy ths Barkelwnhs. Omws, ektimatai pleon meta kai th syzhthsh poy egine kai metajy twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn, oti to Mesanatoliko qa erqei pros syzhthsh sthn atyph Synodo Koryfhs.

Epishs, gnwrizete oti kata th diarkeia ths idiaiterhs syzhthshs metajy twn Prwqypoyrgwn kai Arxhgwn twn kratwn-melwn ths E.E., o Prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Shmiths qa qesei to qema toy legomenoy eyrwstratoy kai qa enhmerwsei gia tis prwtoboylies ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gyrw apo ayto to qema.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, opws einai gnwsto, arxizei shmera sthn Agkyra o diereynhtikos dialogos Elladas - Toyrkias. Ti prosdokoyme apo ayto to dialogo, dioti shmera o Typos anaferei oti piqanws na ejelixqei se ena dialogo ef` olhs ths ylhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: To plaisio toy dialogoy einai ayto poy exei ejaggelqei. Den yparxei tipota perissotero. Shmera jekinoyn oi epafes kai qa elega oti qa ginei syzhthsh gia th diadikasia poy qa akoloyqhqei. Qelw, omws, na tonisw oti se kaqe periptwsh o dialogos exei na kanei, toylaxiston apo th dikh mas pleyra, me ta qemata sta opoia epaneilhmmenws exoyme anaferqei. Bebaiws, h kaqe pleyra exei dikaiwma na exei tis apoceis ths, alla emeis ekeina poy apodexomaste ws qemata einai ayta sta opoia kat` epanalhch exoyme anaferqei.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Dhladh, qemata toy Aigaioy den qa teqoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sta qemata ayta, opws gnwrizete, ekeino poy emeis anagnwrizoyme ws diafora einai h orioqethsh ths yfalokrhpidas.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, bebaia eiste ekproswpos ths kybernhshs, alla exei na kanei ayto to qema eyrytera me ton politiko kosmo, alla kai Kybernhtikoys paragontes. Pws ejhgeite to gegonos oti apo to poqen esxes prokyptei oti arketoi politikoi andres exoyn -mporei na pei kaneis- ploytisei mesw ths politikhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti prokyptei kati tetoio. Yparxoyn safeis diadikasies, oi opoies problepontai. Gnwrizete poly kala oti se aytes tis dhlwseis ginetai elegxos mesa apo tis diadikasies ths Boylhs kai bebaiws o kaqe poliths mporei na plhroforhqei thn perioysiakh katastash toy kaqe politikoy kai to poqen esxes. Gia thn oloklhrwsh toy nomikoy plaisioy o armodios ypoyrgos Eswterikwn proetoimazei thn anamorfwsh toy. Qa exoyme, loipon, thn eykairia -piqanon mexri to Maio h entos toy Maioy- na plhroforhqoyme thn protash toy ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn gia thn anamorfwsh toy isxyontos plaisioy. Qa doqei idiaitero baros sto "poqen" kai oxi aplh anafora toy "esxes", dhladh sto ti exei kaqe politikos.

Qelw na ypenqymisw, epishs, oti poly syntoma kai piqanon ews tis 25 Martioy qa ginei h kataqesh toy sxedioy nomoy gia th xrhmatodothsh twn kommatwn kai twn politikwn kai kata thn proeklogikh periodo. Antilambaneste, poly kala, oti ayto to sxedio nomoy me tis diatajeis poy qa perilambanei -idiaitera gia thn apagoreysh ths leitoyrgias eklogikwn kentrwn, ton aysthro elegxo twn oikonomikwn kai ths xrhmatodothshs twn ypochfiwn kai twn kommatwn- dinei th dynatothta megalyterhs diafaneias sthn politikh zwh kai qa elega oti prostateyei thn politikh kai toys politikoys apo tis opoiesdhpote sxeseis me oikonomikoys paragontes kai ara apo tis opoiesdhpote epiqeseis.

Tonizw oti ayto to sxedio nomoy perilambanei shmantikes tomes kai diatajeis tetoies poy qetoyn sobaroys perioristikoys oroys gia thn proeklogikh periodo.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Pws sxoliazete to gegonos -me aformh th dhmosiopoihsh twn dhlwsewn toy ``poqen esxes''- oti mesa sto 2000, mia xronia opoy eidame sto Xrhmatisthrio thn eikona toy mesa apo ``foyskes'' me ton ``aera twn metoxwn'', polla stelexh ths kybernhshs na epididontai kata koron se ependyseis metoxwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: De nomizw oti yparxoyn idiaiteres ependyseis stelexwn ths kybernhshs gia to etos 2000. Kaqe allo qa elega. Mallon alloys afora. Den protiqemai, omws, na sxoliasw atomikes periptwseis. O rolos moy, ws kybernhtikoy ekproswpoy, einai na anaferomai sto qesmiko plaisio kai se ayto exw hdh anaferqei. Sas eipa ta prosqeta metra poy qa paroyme sthn kateyqynsh ths diafaneias kai ths prostasias -mesw ayths kai toy elegxoy- ths politikhs zwhs kai toy kyroys twn politikwn.

MIXAHL: Den qelete na anaferqeite sthn periptwsh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia atomikes periptwseis, safws, den prepei na anaferqw giati qa yperbw to rolo moy.

MIXAHL: Mporei na exete dikio apo qesh arxhs, omws, edw yparxoyn merikes kraygalees atomikes periptwseis, opws gia paradeigma, toy k. Kamenoy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto den afora thn kybernhsh.

MIXAHL: Asfalws, alla sas afora me thn ejhs ennoia: Den qa sas rwtoysa na krinete enan synadelfo sas, estw kai ths antipoliteyshs, ean eprokeito na....

PRWTOPAPAS: Den prokeitai gia logoys synadelfikhs allhleggyhs, alla sebasmoy toy roloy moy.

MIXAHL: Akribws, alla sas afora apo mia allh pleyra. Den einai gia sas ena erwthmatiko to pws enas politikos, poy kineitai se diaforetiko komma apo esas h telos pantwn kapoioi alloi, exoyn apokthsei mesw toy Xrhmatisthrioy h genikotera dinoyn sta ``poqen esxes'' toys enan ploytismo, se sxesh me alloys sympolites mas; Ayto ws genikh arxh, ws eikona...

PRWTOPAPAS: O kaqenas mas krinetai. O ellhnikos laos exei th dynatothta na krinei. Se qemata poy aforoyn kapoion politiko, o idios prepei na dinei ejhghseis. Emeis ofeiloyme na paroyme qesmika metra gia thn prostasia ths diafaneias kai bebaiws toy kyroys toy politikoy kosmoy. Gia to skopo ayto -opws tonisa- qa katateqei kai qa chfistei to nomosxedio gia th xrhmatodothsh kommatwn kai ypochfiwn kai qa yparjoyn sobares allages sto olo plaisio toy ``poqen esxes''.

GARGALAKOS: Qa hqela na sygkekrimenopoihsw kati poy exei na kanei me ayta poy rwthse o k. Mixahl. Ean yparxoyn boyleytes poy kanoyn agorapwlhsia sto Xrhmatisthrio kai, taytoxrona, me erwthseis, eperwthseis, kataggelies diamorfwnoyn xrhmatisthriako klima, ayto den exei na kanei se tipota me thn kybernhsh; Dhladh, me alla logia -kai to lew apla- qa parei h kybernhsh metra wste boyleytes poy asxoloyntai sto dhmosio bio me xrhmatisthriaka zhthmata na mhn einai taytoxrona kai ependytes Xrhmatisthrioy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw hdh apanthsei. Mh moy zhtate na krinw sygkekrimenes periptwseis. Qelw, omws, se o,ti afora to teleytaio skelos ths erwthshs sas, na sas qymisw oti hdh me nomo poy exei chfistei apo th Boylh, exoyme apagoreysei stoys boyleytes, se oloys mas epomenws, kai sta politika proswpa, na ependyoyn sto Xrhmatisthrio.

KARGOYDH: Protiqeste na epekteinete ayta ta metra gia th diafaneia ston eyrytero dhmosio tomea; Kai anaferomai sta ychla epipeda ths ierarxias, giati kai ekei yparxei ena zhthma kakodiaxeirishs, yparxoyn kataggelies kai rwtw, ean protiqetai na labei h kybernhsh kapoia metra.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete, to "poqen esxes" den afora mono ypoyrgoys kai boyleytes. Afora kai polla stelexh toy dhmosioy tomea, opws gia paradeigma, genikoys grammateis, proedroys organismwn k.t.l. . Apo ekei kai pera, qelw na tonisw oti proqesh ths kybernhshs, sthn kateyqynsh twn metrwn gia patajh ths diafqoras, einai na lhfqoyn ola ta anagkaia metra, prokeimenoy na xtyphqei to fainomeno ths diafqoras sto dhmosio tomea. Gnwrizete oti h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph me epikefalhs ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs K. Skandalidh exei apasxolhqei idiaitera me ayto. Den eimaste sth fash twn anakoinwsewn, alla sth fash ths peraiterw proetoimasias. Otan qa eimaste etoimoi, qa yparjoyn sxetikes anakoinwseis.

KOYIN: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh yposthrizei thn plhrh diereynhsh ths ypoqeshs poy afora ton OTE, aytes tis hmeres;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti dikh mas apoch einai na afhnoyme th Dikaiosynh na kanei aperispasta th doyleia ths, se oles oi ypoqeseis poy exei epilhfqei.

GARGALAKOS: Xqes, o k. Abramopoylos "diapistwse" oti h kybernhsh Shmith den mporei na ekplhrwsei ta kybernhtika kaqhkonta ths kai zhthse ws ek toytoy prowres ekloges. Qa qelate na to krinete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme para na ekfrasoyme thn plhrh diafwnia mas stis ektimhseis aytes. Ayto exei na kanei me ta symferonta toy sygkekrimenoy kommatos kai oxi me ta symferonta ths xwras. Katalabainete poly kala ti ennow.

TAKHS: Eidame, xqes, eikones poy synhqizoyme na blepoyme kaqe fora poy brexei sthn Aqhna h sthn Ellada, genikotera. Kaqe fora poy pianei broxh, h Ellada plhmmyrizei kai anqrwpoi pnigontai. Ti akribws symbainei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den pisteyw oti h xqesinh eikona htan tetoia. Qelw na tonisw oti h kinhtopoihsh htan amesh. H Genikh Grammateia Politikhs Prostasias eixe labei, apo poly nwris, ola ta anagkaia metra kai oles oi armodies dynameis eixan kinhtopoihqei. Gnwrizete oti h Attikh "plhrwnei" katastaseis poy eixan diamorfwqei edw kai polles dekaeties. Se polles periptwseis, yparxoyn mpazwmata rematwn kai xtismata panw sta remata. Dhmioyrghqhkan polles tetoies katastaseis, idiaitera tis palaioteres dekaeties, apo ton tropo poy egine h oikodomhsh ths Attikhs. Ginetai megalh prospaqeia gia na diorqwqoyn ola ayta. Den einai, omws, mia ypoqesh poy mporei na telesforhsei mesa se syntomo xroniko diasthma. Opoy mporei na diorqwqei h katastash, diorqwnetai. Sto xwro ths Attikhs yparxoyn seira problhmata apo ton tropo poy egine h domhsh ths. H xqesinh eikona htan eikona plhroys kinhtopoihshs toy kratikoy mhxanismoy.

KOYIN: Epikeitai tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto Beligradi syntoma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo o,ti gnwrizw, yparxei epishmo tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy sta Tirana, kaqws kai sto Beligradi, alla den exoyn oristikopoihqei akomh oi hmeromhnies. To piqanotero einai oi episkeceis aytes na ginoyn ton Aprilio kai to Maio, antistoixws.

Sas eyxaristw.

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