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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 22 Febroyarioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Eisagwgika qelw na kanw mia anafora sth shmerinh dhlwsh gia to Radiothleoptiko Symboylio toy epitimoy proedroy ths N.D. k. Kwnstantinoy Mhtsotakh. Na epishmanw, prwta apo ola, oti o k. Mhtsotakhs kanei ena laqos. Den xreiazetai nomos gia th sygkrothsh toy neoy ESR. Symfwna me ta orizomena apo to sxetiko nomo kai to Syntagma mas, meta thn chfish toy Kanonismoy ths Boylhs, mporei me aplh epistolh toy ypoyrgoy Typoy & MME -h opoia exei stalei edw kai peripoy ena mhna- na kinhqei h diadikasia, wste h Diaskech twn Proedrwn ths Boylhs na orisei, me thn problepomenh pleiochfia twn 4/5, to neo ESR. Epomenws, o epitimos proedros ths N.D. kanei laqos sto shmeio ayto kai qelw na to epishmanw. Mporw na symmeristw, na sebastw apolyta tis apoceis toy gia to pws blepei to neo ESR kai to rolo toy, ws anejarthths Arxhs, poy mporei na exei thn empistosynh olwn mas, gia na diadramatisei enan idiaitera shmantiko rolo sthn tajh, th nomimothta, th diafaneia kai thn poiothta sto radiothleoptiko topio. Qelw akomh na tonisw oti sxetikes prwtoboylies gia enan aytonomo rolo, gia enan rolo koinhs apodoxhs kai poiotikhs anabaqmishs toy ESR, exoyn hdh analhfqei apo thn kybernhsh mas kai nomoqetika kai kata th diarkeia ths syzhthshs kai ths chfishs toy Syntagmatos. Elpizw oti h N.D. me toys ekproswpoys ths sth Diaskech twn Proedrwn, na akoysei aytes tis apoceis kai na diadramatisei to rolo poy prepei, wste na katalhjei, to taxytero dynato, sth sygkrothsh toy neoy ESR.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

ROYMELIWTH: H anakoinwsh toy epitimoy proedroy kanei logo gia xorhghsh adeiwn apo to paron ESR.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti to paron ESR exei dikaiwma na eishghqei kai na proteinei th xorhghsh adeiwn gia tis prokhryjeis poy ejelissontai. Opws gnwrizete, oi apofaseis toy ESR pernoyn bebaiws kai apo ton elegxo nomimothtas toy ypoyrgeioy, to opoio, opws qa exete prosejei kai sthn Periptwsh me ta radiofwna, frontizei panta na sebetai th moriodothsh poy exei kanei to ESR. Etsi, kataferame kai teleiwsame to qema ths adeiodothshs twn radiofwnikwn staqmwn Qessalonikhs. Prepei na sas pw oti hdh exw labei ta praktika -kai einai qema hmerwn na ypografoyn- oti hdh syntassetai h ypoyrgikh apofash gia na ypografei kai h adeiodothsh twn 15 radiofwnikwn staqmwn ths Aqhnas. Ara, den blepw to logo, giati to shmerino ESR na mhn proxwrhsei to ergo toy. Bebaiws, qa htan eyxhs ergon na oloklhrwsei h Boylh poly syntoma tis problepomenes diadikasies kai na diorisei to neo ESR. Mexri tote, omws, exw zhthsei apo ton k. Lampridh kai to shmerino ESR -poy prepei na anagnwrizoyme oti exei katabalei shmantikes prospaqeies kai exei epitelesei ena shmantiko ergo- na proxwrhsei sto ergo toy. Den mporei, dhladh, na anakopei h diadikasia poy einai apolytws nomimh ayth th stigmh.

Sto shmeio ayto qa hqela na anaferqw kai se ena allo shmeio ths anakoinwshs toy k. Mhtsotakh. Omilei gia ekbiasmoys, apeiles kai aqlia pazaria. Ekbiasmoi, apeiles kai aqlia pazaria, oson afora thn kybernhsh den yparxoyn. Qa hqela na parakalesw ton k. Mhtsotakh, ean exei kati na katonomasei, na mas to pei. Apo ekei kai pera, opws gnwrizw, oyte to ESR dexetai aytoys toys oroys. Prepei na baloyme ta pragmata sth qesh toys. To shmerino ESR kanei th doyleia toy. Bebaiws, prepei na dioristei neo. Exei kanei laqos o k. Mhtsotakhs, den problepetai nomos. Exoyn kinhqei oi diadikasies kai den eyqynetai kaqoloy h kybernhsh. Einai qema ths Boylhs na diorisei grhgora to neo ESR kai ekei o k. Mhtsotakhs mporei na symbalei shmantika, wste to neo ESR poy qa prokycei na exei ola ta xarakthristika poy prepei kai qeloyme oloi.

POYLIDOY: An katalaba kala o k. Mhtsotakhs zhtei na ginei xorhghsh twn adeiwn me to paron ESR h @;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo o,ti katalabainw zhtei na ginei apo to epomeno ESR. An h Boylh diorisei grhgora to epomeno -qewrhtika mporei na to kanei kai ayrio- qa ginei me to epomeno. Ayto, omws, einai qema ths Boylhs. Den mporw na gnwrizw poso xrono qa xreiastei to Koinoboylio. Kai den pisteyw oti einai swsto na diakocoyme th leitoyrgia enos ESR kai na perimenoyme agnwsto pote- na dioristei to kainoyrgio.

KARGOYDH: Eipate oti exete steilei thn epistolh sas, edw kai ena mhna, ston Proedro ths Boylhs. Apo o,ti katalabainw doqhke to enaysma gia thn ekkinhsh ths sxetikhs diadikasias. Poios einai aytos poy parempodizei h en pash periptwsei einai ypeyqynos gia thn argoporia ths oloklhrwshs ayths ths diadikasias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei ypeyqynos, giati prepei na jerete oti xreiazetai sxedon omofwnia. Katalabainete oti qelei leptoys xeirismoys. Dioti qa htan teleiws laqos kai qa eixame ek twn proterwn yponomeysei to rolo toy ESR, na orisei kaqe komma ton ekproswpo toy. Gnwrizw, apo o,ti moy exei pei o Proedros ths Boylhs Apostolos Kaklamanhs, oti den exei tetoia proqesh. Exei thn proqesh na symbalei me th Diaskech twn Proedrwn ths Boylhs sth dhmioyrgia enos ESR kyroys, ajiopistoy kai ikanoy poy na einai sebasto apo oloys, na mporei na epitelesei ton idiaitera shmantiko rolo poy kai to Syntagma, alla kai oloi mas toy epifylassoyme. Opws katalabainete, loipon, qelei idiaitera prosektikoys kai leptoys xeirismoys. Pisteyw oti emeis den prepei na parembainoyme se ayto.

IWANNOY: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw gia ta metra, poy anakoinwsate xqes gia ton paranomo tzogo kai thn apagoreysh olwn twn hlektronikwn paixnidiwn. Shmera anakyptoyn dyo erwthmata: Prwton, ti qa ginei me ta Internet caf@ twn opoiwn o ariqmos exei ayjhqei kai deyteron, opws diabazoyme shmera se kapoia dhmosieymata, hdh mporoyn osoi qeloyn na paizoyn tetoia paixnidia mesa apo thn kinhth thlefwnia, anejarthta apo to an qa symprajei to Dhmosio me kapoies jenes etaireies, mporei na ginei akomh kai shmera. Exete ejetasei ayta ta dyo qemata kai an nai, ti skopeyete na kanete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Me idiaiterh prosoxh qa laboyme ola ta metra poy prepei. H politikh kateyqynsh, omws, exei kaqoristei poly aysthra apo xqes. Ekeino poy mas endiaferei, stis dyo ebdomades poy qa xreiastoyn mexri na oloklhrwqoyn oi sxetikes diadikasies, einai na ejetasoyme ta zhthmata poy qesate.

Mas endiaferei idiaitera na proxwrhsei to Internet kai na dieykolynqei h prosbasimothta olwn twn Ellhnwn se ayto. Alla fysika prepei na prostateysoyme ton polith, wste na mh xrhsimopoioyn kapoioi thn prosbash gia alloys logoys. Qa ejetasoyme pws qa ginei. Panta me idiaiterh prosoxh kai sth genikh kateyqynsh gia thn prosbasimothta olwn twn Ellhnwn sto Internet, poy einai aparaithth sth shmerinh epoxh. Bebaiws, qa xreiastei na doyme me megalh prosoxh pws qa empodisoyme tetoia kataxrhstika fainomena.

Me idiaiterh, epishs, prosoxh qa antimetwpisoyme kai alla qemata poy syndeontai me thn aysthropoihsh twn diadikasiwn kata twn paranomwn paixnidiwn kai genikotera thn prostasia toy polith kai ths koinwnias. Ayto qa ginei sto stadio epejergasias toy nomoy.

Akoysame, xqes, para polles fwnes na qetoyn mia seira apo zhthmata poy syndeontai me thn ylopoihsh ths apofashs poy phrame. Qelw na pw oti h apofash ayth htan epibeblhmenh, wste na dwsei to stigma twn proqesewn ths kybernhshs gia thn prostasia toy polith kai ths koinwnias. Oloi aytoi, oi opoioi xqes bghkan stis thleoraseis kai ta radiofwna kai eipan tis apoceis toys, qa mporoysan na to eixan kanei tis prohgoymenes hmeres. Problhmatizomaste gia thn apoysia toys tis prohgoymenes hmeres kai thn jafnikh emfanish toys xqes. Oloi, omws, mporoyn na mas kataqesoyn tis apoceis kai tis protaseis toys, mexri thn chfish toy nomoy. As mas poyn me poion tropo mporoyme kalytera na prostateysoyme ton polith kai thn koinwnia apo ayta ta fainomena.

Me thn eykairia ayth qelw na epishmanw thn pragmati aparadekth taktikh ths N.D., h opoia ejakoloyqei na mhn kanei kamia protash. Fainetai oti den mporei na symfwnhsoyn sto eswteriko ths. Fainetai oti adynatei na mas pei ti telika pisteyei. Xqes, o ekproswpos Typoy ths N.D. ekane kritikh sthn kybernhsh. Dikaiwma ths N.D. na mas kanei kritikh. Alla, qa mas pei epiteloys ti presbeyei; Qa mas pei poia einai h apoch ths; Qa mas pei ti kata th gnwmh ths prepei na ginei; Qa kataqesei ypeyqyna tis protaseis ths; H ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh ofeilei na exei kai apoch kai protash sta zhthmata poy apasxoloyn toys Ellhnes. H apoysia protashs deixnei, gia mia akomh fora, thn kenothta ths.

IWANNOY: Gia ta kinhta thlefwna den mas eipate kati. Isxyei h genikh apanthsh poy dwsate, oti qa to deite...;

PRWTOPAPAS: Isxyei h genikh apanthsh oti sto plaisio katartishs ths nomoqetikhs diatajhs, qa antimetwpistoyn ola ayta ta fainomena.

IWANNOY: Epeidh eipate oti qa dexqoyme protaseis, yparxei periptwsh mesa se aytes tis 15 hmeres, mexri na ferete to nomoqetiko plaisio, pragmati na diaforopoihqei kati, dhladh, ayto poy xqes eipate gia apagoreysh olwn twn hlektronikwn paixnidiwn, na allajei; Dhladh, ta cyxagwgika h paidika na parameinoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: H protash mas, to plaisio poy qesame einai safes. Edwse ena stigma gia olh thn ellhnikh koinwnia. Se epimeroys qemata, opws ayta poy qesate, poy mporei na aforoyn eite ta eidika problhmata poy syndeontai me to Internet, eite me alla mesa, eimaste anoiktoi kai gia dialogo kai gia protaseis. Ejalloy, ki emeis twra oloklhrwnoyme th sxetikh epejergasia. Yparxei ayto to diasthma twn 15 hmerwn. Se ayto to diasthma oloi oi endiaferomenoi -opoios qelei na symbalei kai bebaiws ta politika kommata- mporoyn na feroyn tis dikes toys apoceis. Me ayth thn eykairia na epishmanw, kai pali, oti h N.D., h opoia kaqe fora kanei kritikh, oyte apoch kateqese, oyte apoch mporei na kataqesei. Kai ap o,ti fainetai ta stelexh ths den mporoyn na arqrwsoyn eniaio logo epi toy qematos.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Kat arxas, kati ep` aytoy: Qa exete plhroforhqei oti exoyn jeshkwqei oi ergazomenoi se ayta ta katasthmata twn paidikwn paixnidiwn, poy einai sxedon idia me ta ``froytakia''. Kai jerete oti me to nomo den mporeite na ta apagoreysete ayta, oyte ta mhxanakia ta men, oyte ta mhxanakia ta de. Pws qa proxwrhsete sth nomoqetikh ryqmish;

PRWTOPAPAS: Giati den mporoyme na ta apagoreysoyme;

PAPADOPOYLOS: Dioti einai mhxanhmata poy kykloforoyn apo megales etaireies, dieqnoys epipedoy. Erxontai edw, eisagontai, ginetai o ektelwnismos toys...

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn, omws, mhxanhmata gia cyxagwgika paixnidia, opws gnwrizete, poy me thn allagh enos tsip...

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ayto einai allo qema. Alla, den mporeite me mia apofash na peite oti qa apagoreysete ta paixnidia...;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipame to plaisio twn apofasewn mas. Sas eipa oti gia eidikotera zhthmata, opws ayta poy eqese h ka Iwannoy, perimenoyme na katateqoyn sxetikes apoceis.

IWANNOY: Ara, afhnete anoikto to endexomeno gia orismena eidh paixnidiwn, na to janaejetasete.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qesame to geniko plaisio kai to plaisio ayto einai safes. Yparxei mia seira texnikwn problhmatwn, gia eidikes kathgories, stis opoies anaferqhkate. Gia oles aytes tis eidikes kathgories kai ta eidika problhmata poy prokaloyntai, dioti den einai aplws to qema twn mhxanhmatwn, einai para polla zhthmata poy anakyptoyn, eimaste kata th diarkeia katartishs ths sxetikhs diatajhs, anoiktoi kai se sxetikes protaseis. Alla to plaisio einai safes. To politiko plaisio exei teqei apo xqes.

GARGALAKOS: Kai sth Boylh qa teqoyn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws kai sth Boylh.

XRHSTAKOS: Xqes, eipate oti qa apagoreyqoyn ola ta hlektronika paixnidia kai se erwthseis poy eginan, oson afora ta cyxagwgika paixnidia kaqara, eipate oti qa apagoreyqoyn ola ta hlektronika paixnidia. Hqela na rwthsw sta zhthmata poy qa ejetasete einai kai oi qeseis ergasias poy qa xaqoyn, oi piqanes apozhmiwseis se ependyseis poy exoyn ginei nomimws apo adeies poy exoyn doqei apo to kratos stoys epixeirhmaties;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw hdh apanthsei gia ola ayta. Mas zhthqhke -kai pisteyw oti zhthqhke apo oloys- na prostateysoyme thn koinwnia apo ton paranomo tzogo. Gnwrizete poly kala oti ta mhxanhmata ayta eixa mia terastia ejaplwsh -kyriolektika htan egkatesthmena pantoy- KAI oti se para polla apo ayta, oysiastika den mporei na yparjei elegxos. Opoiadhpote stigmh ths hmeras, akomh ki an perasei ena synergeio elegxoy, mporei na ginei parembash kai na metatrapoyn se tyxera. H texnologia exei proxwrhsei para poly. Akomh kai an yposxomastan plhrh elegxo, einai fanero pws, otan pernoyse o elegxos, amesws meta, qa mporoyse na ginei parembash. Katalabainete oti odhgoymaste se pio aysthres lyseis, epeidh exoyme ws monadiko endiaferon na prostateysoyme ton polith kai thn koinwnia.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Sthn anaklhsh adeiwn poy qa ginei, fantazomai, se osa katasthmata kleisoyn, ayto shmainei oti qa epistrafoyn kai ta xrhmata poy exoyn plhrwsei stis efories; Plhrwnoyn kapoio shma, ena telos...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ypoqetw oti leitoyrghsan ta katasthmata ayta. En pash periptwsei, ola ta texnika zhthmata, giati kai ayto einai ena zhthma poy mporei na teqei, ola ayta ta erwthmata mporei na teqoyn apo toys armodioys foreis pros to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn kai ta synarmodia ypoyrgeia kai bebaiws, mporei na syzhthqoyn kai sth diarkeia aytwn twn hmerwn, alla kai sth Boylh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Exei synypologisei h kybernhsh to koinwniko kostos apo toys xiliades ergazomenoys kai mikroidiokthtes, texnikwn paixnidiwn poy qa meinoyn anergoi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Para polla apo ayta ta mhxanhmata, den syndeontai me thn paroysia ergazomenwn. Kai to gnwrizete poly kala. Polla apo ayta ta mhxanhmata htan se xwroys kafeneiwn kai se alloys xwroys, poy qa synexisoyn na leitoyrgoyn. Den shmainei oti den qa yparxei to kafeneio. Synhqws -opws gnwrizete- ayta ta mhxanhmata leitoyrgoysan apo mona toys. Apo kei kai pera, bebaiws, mporei na yparxoyn problhmata. To sebomai ayto, alla qelw na tonisw oti, panw ap ola, einai ta symferonta toy koinwnikoy synoloy.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Symmerizeste, k. Ekproswpe, th dhlwsh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias oti h koinwnia mas ekpempei dyswdia; Kai h apofash ayth ths kybernhshs gia ta mhxanakia, egine meta apo th dhlwsh toy Proedroy h nwritera;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw topoqethqei apo xqes gia to qema twn dhlwsewn toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Sth xqesinh enhmerwsh, mporeite na breite thn apanthsh.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Peirazei poy epanerxomai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nomizw oti genikws otan epanerxomaste, aplws ayjanoyme tis selides ths enhmerwshs.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Prin apo liges hmeres mas eipate oti o k. Shmiths den dexqhke kapoio dikastiko leitoyrgo sto Majimoy. Oi plhrofories poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas epanerxontai kai lene oti episkefqhke to Megaro Majimoy anwtatos dikastikos kai enhmerwse to periballon toy Prwqypoyrgoy gi ayth thn ypoqesh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw hdh apanthsei.

PAPADOPOYLOS: To arnhqhkate.

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws. Epomenws exw hdh apanthsei.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Dhladh, epimenete se ayth th diabebaiwsh sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia na to lew.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Dhladh, o Prwqypoyrgos den hjere to periexomeno ayths ths diwjhs otan dexqhke ton k. Kokkalh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws kai den to hjere. Einai safes, exw apanthsei edw kai arketes hmeres. Giati epanerxeste;

PAPADOPOYLOS: Dioti ki ayto einai mia stash. Jerete poses fores epanhlqate kai diaceysthkate, oxi eseis, o qesmos toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean yparxei kapoia ejelijh se ena qema, gia to opoio exoyme kapoia ektimhsh kai oi synqhkes allazoyn aytes tis ektimhseis, eimaste oi prwtoi poy to dhlwnoyme.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Gi ayto epimenw. Dioti se ayth thn aiqoysa polloi prokatoxoi sas epemenan mexri thn teleytaia stigmh kai thn allh hmera o Prwqypoyrgos toys ``adeiaze'' kata to koinws legomeno. Qymaste ti egine me to BINTEOLOTTO. Gi ayto epanerxomai kai qelw mia dhlwsh sas, ean ontws o Prwqypoyrgos htan enhmeros gi ayth thn ypoqesh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw, hdh, apanthsei.

GARGALAKOS: Xqes, oysiastika, sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, apo polla melh ths kybernhshs akoysthkan apoceis oti yparxei kapoio sxedio yponomeyshs ths kybernhshs kai dhmioyrgia klimatos astaqeias. Qa hqela na rwthsw ean h kybernhsh, pera apo ayth th diapistwsh, exei diarqrwsei ena sxedio antimetwpishs ayths ths katastashs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai analytikes oi xqesines anafores mas kai prepei na sas pw oti gia to politiko klima qa yparxoyn analytikes kai baryshmantes anafores kai sth shmerinh omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Qa hqela na anaferqw se orismena shmerina dhmosieymata efhmeridwn, me anafores praktorwn h tews praktorwn ths STAZI. Tonizw oti aytes oi anafores einai pragmatika anajies logoy kai den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Kapoioi praktores ths STAZI ekanan afhrhmenes anafores sto PASOK. To PASOK eixe, exei kai qa exei panta faneroys oikonomikoys poroys. Den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta aytes oi aoristes kai asthriktes anafores praktorwn kai qa elega oti mono apajiwtika mporei na tis antimetwpisei kaneis. Kala qa kanoyn oi Germanoi na koitajoyn ta toy oikoy toys kai na antimetwpisoyn aytes tis draseis kai tis ypoqeseis twn praktorwn ths STAZI. Nomizw oti prepei na meinoyme mexri ekei.

Epishs, qa hqela na kanw mia anafora, sxetika me to qema ths O.A. Yphrje xqes apofash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, thn opoia anakoinwsan oi synarmodioi ypoyrgoi Xr. Berelhs kai N. Xristodoylakhs. Ayth h apofash lambanei ypoch, toso thn adynamia peistikwn eggyhsewn apo pleyras twn fysikwn h nomikwn proswpwn ths deyterhs prosforas. Den yphrjan peistikes oikonomikes eggyhseis kai htan logiko na khryxqei o diagwnismos agonos. Qelw na tonisw oti to qema ths O.A. prepei na ejetastei kai na exoyme mia safh eikona ths katastashs, katw apo to klima poy exei diamorfwqei meta thn 11h Septembrioy. Gnwrizete poly kala oti yparxei mia idiaiterh epibarynsh sta oikonomika twn aeroporikwn etaireiwn, meta to tromokratiko ktyphma. Arnhtikes katastaseis antimetwpisthkan hdh kai sto Belgio, thn Portogalia, thn Irlandia kai alles xwres. Oles oi aeroporikes etaireies perasan kriseis. Einai logiko na dyskoleyetai h diadikasia toy diagwnismoy, alla kai oi enallaktikes lyseis gia thn O.A. se mia periodo poy oi synepeies ths krishs ekeinhs einai akoma orates. Parola ayta h kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na brei th swsth lysh. Oi xqesines apofaseis ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs einai safws pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Dinoyme lysh me tolmh kai apofasistikothta poy mporei na eggyhqei to mellon ths O.A. kai mporei na odhghsei se biwsimes katastaseis, apo tis opoies den qa epibarynetai o ellhnikos laos. H apofash mas ayth qa arxisei na ylopoieitai to taxytero. Kai qa mporesoyme na odhghqoyme se ena kaqestws, sto opoio qa mpoyn kai idiwtika kefalaia kai qa syndesoyme th biwsimothta me thn prooptikh idiwtikopoihshs ths O.A.. H N. D. stis xqesines anakoinwseis ths anaferei oti oi apofaseis einai o ``epilogos enos proaggelqentos egklhmatos''. Den mas leei, omws, ti qelei na kanoyme; Ti prepei -kata thn apoch ths- na kanoyme; Kai pali den proteine tipota. Kai pali den exei apoch. Kai pali den exei tipota na pei. Den einai epilogos oi xqesines apofaseis, einai h arxh, h enarjh mias neas poreias gia mia isxyrh kai swsth O.A. Mia O.A. poy qa kanei to ergo enos eqnikoy aerometaforea, xwris na epibarynei ton ellhniko lao. Qa proxwrhsoyme se ayth th lysh me apofasistikothta kai afhnoyme sth N.D. kai pali thn politikh toy periqwrioy poy kanei kai se ayto to shmantiko zhthma.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Posoi ypoyrgoi toy PASOK prepei na perasoyn apo to armodio ypoyrgeio gia na dwsoyn lysh sthn O.A. Molis prin ligo mas eipate oti qa prepei na ejetastei pali to qema ths O.A. Dyo fores dwsate programmata apo thn Eyrwph gia na anasygkrothqei h O.A. kai phge apo to kako sto xeirotero. Hrqan oi Aggloi, ekei dwsate, epishs....

PRWTOPAPAS: H idia syzhthsh exei ginei se oles tis xwres ths Eyrwphs, opoy anatraphkan oi programmatismoi poy eixan ginei meta to tromokratiko ktyphma ths 11hs Septembrioy. Diaforetika o diagwnismos -na eiste bebaios- qa eixe perissoteres prosfores kai qa eixe eyodwqei. Omws, ayth th stigmh phrame shmantikes apofaseis. Kaloyme ton ellhniko lao na tis sthrijei kai na symbalei sthn efarmogh toys, wste na diasfalistei to mellon kai h biwsimothta ths O.A.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Symmerizeste tis dhlwseis toy Epitropoy k. Mira. Einai pragmati analhqh ta stoixeia gia thn anergia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ta stoixeia poy dinei h Eqnikh Statistikh Yphresia einai apolytws alhqh. Yparxei mia diafora me thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, edw kai kairo, stis xronikes proqesmies, mesa stis opoies didontai. Dinontai ana trimhno kai isws kai me kapoia kaqysterhsh. Enw se alles eyrwpaikes xwres exoyn anaptyxqei poly kalytera ta systhmata kai didontai gia ola to xrono kai nwritera. Ta stoixeia einai alhqh. Ayto poy xreiazetai, omws, na antimetwpisoyme -kai exoyn anaptyxqei apo to ypoyrgeio Ergasias sxetikes prospaqeies- einai h taxythta gia th dhmosiopoihsh toys.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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