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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 22 Ianoyarioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos brisketai hdh sth Boylgaria. Qa exei synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths xwras, qa parastei sthn teleth analhchs twn kaqhkontwn toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias kai to apogeyma qa anagoreyqei se epitimo didaktora toy panepisthmioy ths Sofias.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean epimenete sta osa mas eipate xqes gia thn paraithsh toy k. Zafeiropoyloy. Dhladh, oti yphrje mono diafwnia, opws anaferoyn o k. Papandreoy kai o k. Zafeiropoylos, sxetika me th balkanikh politikh@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa gia th balkanikh politikh. Eipa epi lejei, gia thn organwsh kai leitoyrgia toy tomea eyqynhs toy, dhladh toy tomea twn dieqnwn oikonomikwn sxesewn kai eidikotera gia to sxedio nomoy gia thn anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn.

MIXAHL: Epeidh, omws, shmerina dhmosieymata kai kapoies dhlwseis poy ekane o k. Zafeiropoylos, dinoyn kai alles diastaseis, oti gia paradeigma anatraphke olh h politikh poy eixe askhsei o k. Papantwnioy ws ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias ton teleytaio enamisi xrono, symmerizeste aytoys toys logoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parapempw stis xqesines dhlwseis moy poy einai plhreis.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Yparxoyn, shmera, plhrofories oti o k. Zafeiropoylos, prin apo kairo kai meta ton anasxhmatismo, eixe steilei epistolh ston Prwqypoyrgo, sthn opoia anaferei oti o k. Papandreoy exei "sthsei" mhxanismo sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn me apwtero skopo thn arxhgia toy PASOK. Qelw na moy peite, ean alhqeyei ayth h plhroforia kai an yphrje epistolh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Prin apo ligo, milhsa me ton k. Zafeiropoylo, o opoios moy eipe oti epanalambanei toys logoys ths paraithshs toy, poy einai h diafwnia toy gia qemata organwshs kai leitoyrgias ston tomea twn dieqnwn oikonomikwn sxesewn kai eidikotera gia to sxedio nomoy gia thn anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn. Apo ekei kai pera, den gnwrizw gia pio akribws keimeno syzhtoyme. Ekeino poy gnwrizw einai oti h paraithsh eixe na kanei me toys sygkekrimenoys logoys poy o idios o k. Zafeiropoylos epikalesthke sthn epistolh toy.

MOYRTZHS: Qelw na mas dieykrinisete, ean telika yphrje deyterh epistolh, sthn opoia o k. Zafeiropoylos anaferei apajiwtika pragmata gia ton k. Papandreoy, h opoia epestrafh ws aparadekth apo ton Prwqypoyrgo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Xqes, ejhghsame olo to qema twn epistolwn poy exei na kanei me thn paraithsh. Ayta, akribws, poy eipa xqes, epanalambanw kai shmera.

IWANNOY: Prin apo ligh wra, o boyleyths toy PASOK kai armodios tomearxhs sto KTE Oikonomikwn k. Giannakopoylos ekane mia orgismenh grapth dhlwsh-anakoinwsh sxetika me to qema toy k. Karatza gia th sygxwneysh Eqnikhs-Pistews. Oyte ligo-oyte poly, zhta thn apomakrynsh toy k. Karatza epirriptontas eyqynes ston tropo poy xeiristhke to olo zhthma. Eipe xarakthristika oti "egw ws boyleyths toy PASOK den eimai anagkasmenos na apologoymai gia ton k. Karatza kai gia tis "orntinatzes" poy eferan ws edw to qema ths sygxwneyshs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa sxoliasw dhlwseis boyleytwn toy PASOK. Sas exw anaptyjei thn kybernhtikh qesh gia to qema, toso thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, oso kai kata th xqesinh synanthsh mas.

TAKHS: Se ayth thn prwth epistolh poy exei stalei, den exei stalei, en pash periptwsei. Gnwrizete an o k. Zafeiropoylos eqese qema ston Prwqypoyrgo mh swsths diaxeirishs twn kondyliwn gia tis mh kybernhtikes organwseis apo to Giwrgo Papandreoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Zafeiropoylos o,ti eixe na pei to eipe me ton idiaitera entimo kai safh tropo poy ton xarakthrizei. Yparxei to keimeno ths paraithshs toy. Epomenws, den pisteyw oti xreiazetai na epanelqoyme epi toy qematos, se kamia periptwsh.

BITALHS: Gnwrizete, ean sth diarkeia ths qhteias toy ws yfypoyrgos Ejwterikwn o k. Zafeiropoylos, plhn ths epistolhs poy apesteile xqes ston Prwqypoyrgo gia thn paraithsh toy, exei aposteilei kai allh epistolh h kapoio sxetiko ypomnhma pros ton Prwqypoyrgo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den apokleietai na exei steilei ypomnhmata o k. Zafeiropoylos, opws stelnoyn kai oloi oi ypoyrgoi kai yfypoyrgoi gia ta qemata poy xeirizontai. Ayto einai apolyta fysiologiko. Otan kapoios exei mia qhteia -opws gnwrizete, o k. Zafeiropoylos htan arketoys mhnes se ayto to antikeimeno, sthn arxh sto ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Oikonomias kai metepeita sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn- einai logiko, kata th diarkeia ths qhteias toy, na exei steilei me apoceis, me protaseis, me ypomnhmata ston Prwqypoyrgo. Ayto to exoyme kanei oloi.

SOYGLERHS: Shmera, to reportaz leei oti kai se alla ypoyrgeia ypoboskoyn tetoies diafwnies metajy ypoyrgwn kai yfypoyrgwn. Einai se gnwsh sas ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn epixeiroyme twra, me aformh mia paraithsh poy egine me poly safh tropo kai se ena sygkekrimeno qema, na dhmioyrghsoyme thn eikona mias krishs poy den yparxei. Kati tetoio den einai swsto.

MOYRTZHS: Jefeygete san "xeli". Sas exoyn ginei deka erwthseis gia to idio qema. Qa epanalabw thn idia erwthsh: Exei steilei, ektos apo ayth thn epistolh paraithshs, kai allh epistolh ston Prwqypoyrgo o k. Zafeiropoylos, thn opoia o Prwqypoyrgos epestrece ws aparadekth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ej oswn gnwrizw den exei ginei kati tetoio.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Etsi grafetai ston Typo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eidame polla kai poikila dhmosieymata. Epanalambanw ayta poy eipa xqes: Htan poly safeis oi logoi gia toys opoioys paraithqhke o k. Zafeiropoylos. O idios exei kanei sxetikes dhlwseis ston idio ajona. Den exoyme tipota kainoyrgio na prosqesoyme. Sto erwthma poy moy teqhke, ean kata kairoys exoyn apostalei ypomnhmata, apantw eyqews "nai", opws exei ginei apo oloys toys ypoyrgoys kai yfypoyrgoys gia qemata ths armodiothtas toys. Alimono ean den to ekanan.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Meta thn episkech Etsebit stis HPA kai tis dhlwseis poy exei kanei antilambaneste oti ta ellhno-toyrkika briskontai se tentwmeno sxoini. Xqes, eginan pali nees parabaseis kai parabiaseis sto enaerio xwro ths Elladas. Dierwtwmai poy qa odhghqoyme me ayth thn perifhmh ellhno-toyrkikh proseggish. Qa th synexisoyme mesa se ayto to klima, kyrie Ypoyrge;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa eimaste staqeroi sthn politikh mas. Pisteyw oti twra, poy h katastash brisketai se ena idiaitera krisimo shmeio, prepei oso pote na meinoyme staqeroi sthn politikh mas. Bebaiws, qa apantame me toys tropoys poy kaqe fora epilegoyme se otidhpote ektimoyme pws mas qigei. Den shmainei oti otidhpote menei anapanthto. Alla to kentriko stoixeio ths politikhs mas, oi kentrikoi stoxoi ths politikhs mas prepei na einai panta aytoi poy exoyme epilejei. Xaris se ayth thn politikh, ferame to Kypriako se mia fash idiaitera shmantikh kai arxisan oi synomilies. Xaris se ayth thn politikh proxwrhse h entajiakh poreia ths Kyproy sthn E.E. Xaris se ayth thn politikh anadeixqhke h megalh shmasia kai h dynatothta epilyshs qematwn me symmetoxh ths Elladas. Ayth h politikh prepei na synexistei, giati einai ayth poy qa odhghsei se lyseis sta eqnika mas qemata. Emeis prepei na epilegoyme ekeina ta shmeia sta opoia qa dwsoyme tis maxes mas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O k. Etsebit zhta na anoijei enas ellhno-toyrkikos dialogos gia ta qemata toy Aigaioy. Mexri twra h politikh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs @kai nomizw h politikh olwn twn kommatwn-einai oti to monadiko qema poy yparxei pros syzhthsh, einai to qema ths yfalokrhpidas kai ayto mesw toy Dieqnoys Dikasthrioy ths Xaghs. Ayth h qesh allaje; Prokeitai na allajei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oydemia allagh yparxei. Einai opws akribws to eipate.

BITALHS: Epeidh eipate oti qa epimeinoyme se ayth thn politikh, h opoia exei apodwsei karpoys.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti briskomaste se mia idiaitera krisimh fash.

BITALHS: Blepete, ektimate oti ayth h politikh mporei na synexistei me mia morfh dialogoy me thn Toyrkia, panw se sobara qemata, alla oxi se qemata poy qigoyn thn eqnikh akeraiothta kai ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata mas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, dialogos ginetai, opws jerete, metajy twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn twn dyo xwrwn. Exoyn syzhthqei kai exoyn proxwrhsei orismena qemata. Apotelesma aytwn twn syzhthsewn, gia paradeigma, htan h symfwnia gia thn epanaprowqhsh twn laqrometanastwn. Yparxei kai mia seira allwn tetoiwn symfwniwn, poy exoyn ypografei. To na empedwneis ena klima kalhs geitonias kai omalothtas sthn perioxh einai idiaitera aparaithto kai apotelei meros ths politikhs mas.

MIXAHL: H Ellada qa labei h idia, me dikh ths prwtoboylia kai dikh ths kinhsh, na zhthsei apo thn Toyrkia na syzhthsoyme qemata amfisbhthsewn sto Aigaio kai sygkekrimena to qema ths yfalokrhpidas; Giati o Prwqypoyrgos kai o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn stis dhlwseis toys milane oti yparxei katalhktikh hmeromhnia me bash to keimeno toy Elsinki, ta arqra 4 kai 33. Qa paroyme emeis monoi mas thn prwtoboylia na qesoyme ayta ta qemata h qa perimenoyme, opote kai an prokycoyn, mesa apo ayth thn epafh twn dyo ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora ta qemata toy Aigaioy, isxyei staqera h politikh mas, opws kai sta genikotera qemata ejwterikhs politikhs. Den yparxei kamia allagh se ayto ton tomea.

MIXAHL: Epimenw. Se o,ti afora to Aigaio, tis ellhnikes qeseis tis jeroyme. Oi ellhnikes qeseis den allazoyn, ayto einai safes kai to lete. Allo rwtaw to opoio endexomenws den egine katanohto: Me dedomenes tis ellhnikes qeseis, oi opoies den allazoyn, prokeitai na qesoyme me dikh mas prwtoboylia ta shmantika ayta qemata, nai h oxi; Th dikh mas prwtoboylia rwtw egw na maqw. Qema taktikhs einai.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opoios exei parakoloyqhsei me prosoxh ta eqnika mas qemata, qa gnwrizei oti exw hdh apanthsei. Ean qelete pio safh apanthsh, sas exw pei kai to epanalambanw kai twra, oti den qa allajei se kanena shmeio h politikh mas. Ean h Toyrkia qelhsei na qesei to qema ths yfalokrhpidas, symfwna me ta dieqnh dedomena, den exei para na prokalesei h idia th diadikasia sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs.

BITALHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela mia dieykrinish. Exw mia aporia, dioti o Prwqypoyrgos amesws meta to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio poy asxolhqhke me qemata ejwterikhs politikhs, ekane logo gia prwtoboylies, wste na mporesoyme emeis na breqoyme se mia pleonektikh qesh, na anaptyjoyme tis qeseis mas kai epikalesthke malista kai tis katalhktikes hmeromhnies, sto arqro 4 twn Symperasmatwn toy Symboylioy Koryfhs sto Elsinki. Poies einai aytes oi prwtoboylies, k. Ypoyrge, apo th stigmh poy lete oti den allazei h qesh mas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Shmera, gia paradeigma, anaptyssetai mia prwtoboylia, h opoia qa synexistei me thn episkech toy Albanoy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Aqhna kai thn episkech toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy sth Roymania, gia th dhmioyrgia klimatos eirhnhs kai synergasias sta Balkania. Sas anaferw mia prwtoboylia mas sta eqnika qemata. Gnwrizete oti me th Boylgaria kai th Roymania qa syzhthqoyn kai alla qemata. Gia paradeigma, h entajh toys sthn E.E., gia thn opoia den einai etoimes aytes oi xwres twra kai logika den qa einai etoimes oyte sto prwto reyma eisodoy. Ena deytero einai h prooptikh entajhs toys sto NATO. Gnwrizete thn ellhnikh qesh, h opoia ekfrasthke kai pros thn kybernhsh twn HPA, gia thn entajh ths Boylgarias kai ths Roymanias sto NATO. Yparxei kai seira allwn prwtoboyliwn , opws h episkech toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy sto G.G. toy OHE Kofi Anan, kata thn opoia sas ypenqymizw oti yphrje idiaiterh epimonh ths ellhnikhs pleyras sthn enisxysh twn prwtoboyliwn gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy, apo pleyras OHE. Prwtoboylia htan h topoqethsh toy idioy qematos pros ton Proedro Mpoys. Prwtoboylia einai h anadeijh kinhsewn kai diadikasiwn mesa sthn E.E. gia thn oristikh epilysh toy qematos, poy sxetizetai me thn anaptyjh ths dynamhs taxeias parembashs ths E.E., toy Eyrwstratoy. Gia ola ayta sxediazontai kai anaptyssontai prwtoboylies. Xairomai, dioti apo tis erwthseis sas fainetai oti yparxei idiaitero endiaferon gia ta eqnika qemata. Pragmati, ta eqnika qemata einai se mia krisimh fash. Alla giati; Giati emeis me tis prwtoboylies poy phrame kai me thn politikh poy akoloyqoyme anoijame to dromo twn lysewn. Xreiazetai, loipon, staqerothta, emmonh, anadeijh ths prostiqemenhs ajias ths Elladas se ola ta qemata ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas, prokeimenoy na diasfalisoyme tis lyseis, lyseis symfwnes me ta eqnika mas symferonta.

TAKHS: To ``EQNOS'' shmera stis selides toy kataqetei kapoies plhrofories poy exei apo dikastikes phges @opws leei- symfwna me tis opoies oi thlefwnikes syskeyes toy Andrea Papandreoy kai kapoiwn allwn stelexwn toy PASOK briskontan ypo eisaggelikh parakoloyqhsh, akomh ki otan to PASOK htan kybernhsh, meta to `93. Gnwrizete kati epi toy qematos h to plhroforhqhkate kai eseis apo to sygkekrimeno entypo;

PRWTOPAPAS: To plhroforhqhka apo to ``EQNOS''. Afora mia parelqoysa xronikh periodo. Den menei para na kanoyme oles tis anagkaies kinhseis diakribwshs twn qematwn aytwn. Den eimai se qesh ayth th stigmh na dwsw sygkekrimenh apanthsh.

TAKHS: Oi opoies ``anagkaies kinhseis'' poies einai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa prepei na rwthsoyme ta armodia ypoyrgeia. Alla, mexri stigmhs, den exoyme sygkekrimenh apanthsh. Opws qa prosejate kai sta dhmosieymata ths efhmeridas ``EQNOS'' den anaferontai onomastika oi phges. Kai bebaiws, qa prosejate, sto idio dhmosieyma, oti me to nomo poy exoyme chfisei sth Boylh @kai malista prosfata- oles aytes oi diadikasies parakoloyqhsewn ``denontai'' me sygkekrimenes kinhseis diafaneias, apolyta safeis, kai panta mono me thn entolh dikastikoy symboylioy.

TAKHS: Ara, an exete kati, qa mas enhmerwsete ayrio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws, ean exw apanthsh. Dioti, opws eidate kai sto idio to dhmosieyma, den anaferontai sygkekrimenes phges h onomata.

PITTARAS: Yphrje synanthsh, thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Kwstopoylo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. O k. Kwstopoylos, otan diapistwqhke h diafwnia metajy twn dyo Trapezwn, epikoinwnhse thlefwnikws me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai ton enhmerwse gia to problhma, opws eixe epikoinwnhsei kai otan egine h arxikh symfwnia. Einai ayto poy eipa kai xqes, oti h kybernhsh parakoloyqoyse apo konta oles tis ejelijeis, xwris na parembainei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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