Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-01-08

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 8 Ianoyarioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YFYPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

THLEMAXO XYTHRH

Geia sas. Xronia polla kai kalh xronia.

O Prwqypoyrgos, opws gnwrizete, anaxwrhse shmera gia tis HPA, opoy qa pragmatopoihsei epishmh episkech. Prin apo thn anaxwrhsh toy proebh se sxetikes dhlwseis kai apanthse se erwthsh dhmosiografwn.

Qelw na sas epishmanw oti h episkech ayth toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis HPA einai poly shmantikh, giati sth diarkeia ths qa syzhthqoyn ola ta dieqnh qemata sygkyrias. Asfalws, o Prwqypoyrgos qa syzhthsei kai dimerh qemata. Oi sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn einai para poly kales kai pisteyoyme oti meta apo to tajidi ayto qa beltiwqoyn akomh perissotero. Den yparxei kamia piesh, kanena qriler sthn episkech ayth, h opoia den synodeyetai apo tetoia.

Kakws, kata thn apoch mas, enspeiroyn -osoi enspeiroyn- ena aisqhma anasfaleias ston ellhniko lao gia thn episkech ayth. H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei tis qeseis ths, qeseis oi opoies einai kaqares kai tis opoies yposthrizei pantoy kai pantote. Ayto qa kanei kai sthn Amerikh.

H Ellada brisketai sto proskhnio. Sas ypenqymizw oti prin apo ligo kairo dexthkame episkech toy Proedroy ths Rwsikhs Omospondias Blantimir Poytin kai shmera exoyme to tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis HPA kai synanthsh toy me ton Proedro twn HPA Tzortz Mpoys. Kai ola ayta mesa se ena mhna.

Analambanoyme thn Proedria ths E.E. to a@ ejamhno toy 2003 kai diorganwnoyme toys Olympiakoys Agwnes to 2004. Epomenws, h nootropia h dikh mas, alla kai olwn den prepei na einai nootropia allwn dekaetiwn. Eimaste qetikoi stis ejelijeis, synepeis stis arxes mas kai th stash mas, stis dieqneis symfwnies.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, otan leme piesh, ennooyme piqanotata -opws legetai bebaiws- oti h Amerikh qa yposthrijei tis qeseis ths Toyrkias, oson afora to Kypriako, thn entajiakh poreia ths Kyproy sthn E.E. kai ton eyrwstrato. Ayto ennoeitai me ton oro piesh kai den meiwnei kaqoloy ton Prwqypoyrgo. Oi pieseis qa ginoyn apo thn amerikanikh pleyra. Exete antirrhsh se ayto;

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa oti h Ellada se ola ta qemata exei tis qeseis ths, oi opoies einai kaqares. Aytes tis qeseis yposthrizei pantoy kai aytes qa yposthrijei kai ekei. Den symfwnw mazi sas oti h stash ths Amerikhs qa einai h sygkekrimenh me tis leptomereies poy anaferete. Se aytes tis periptwseis ginetai syzhthsh kai ekfrazontai oi apoceis. Ayto qa ginei ki ekei. Kai mias kai anaferete orismena qemata, qelw na sas pw oti profanws ola ta qemata qa syzhthqoyn. Sas ypenqymizw oti sth Synodo Koryfhs toy Laaken poy syzhthqhke to qema toy eyrwstratoy h Ellada dia toy Prwqypoyrgoy ejefrase tis epifylajeis ths poy eginan apodektes. Oyte chfoforia egine, oyte apoxwrhsh, oyte sysxetismos "14" pros "1" yphrje, oyte veto qesame. H fwnh ths Elladas yposthrizetai kai telikws eisakoyetai. Exoyme ta epixeirhmata mas, opws oi alloi exoyn ta dika toys.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate oti den qa prepei h "nootropia mas na einai nootropia allwn dekaetiwn". Kai qelw na sas rwthsw ean h nootropia twn Amerikanwn einai nootropia allwn dekaetiwn ston tropo poy blepoyn tis sxeseis me thn Ellada.

XYTHRHS: Egw eimai ekproswpos ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Allh erwthsh, parakalw.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe qa epimeinw ligo. Profanws den qelete na moy apanthsete. Qa sas to qesw diaforetika. To gegonos oti lete h dikh mas "nootropia na einai nootropia allwn dekaetiwn" h nootropia ayth den diamorfwnetai apo monh ths, alla yparxoyn paragontes poy th diamorfwnoyn. Kai oi paragontes aytoi istorika einai h stash twn HPA apenanti sthn Ellada. An, loipon, ektimate oti h stash ayth, ola ayta ta xronia, synebale sto na exoyme mia nootropia tetoiwn dekaetiwn kai an twra pia -opws lete- den prepei na thn exoyme, rwtw an isxyei kai to antiqeto an, dhladh, h shmerinh stash twn HPA den epitrepei na exoyme th nootropia poy eixame sto parelqon;

XYTHRHS: Mas endiaferei, kata kyrio logo, ti kanoyme emeis. Poia einai kai poia prepei na einai h dikh mas stash. Ola ta alla einai sxolia ta opoia mporeite na kanete, ws kalos dhmosiografos poy eiste.

MIXAHL: Kai kati akomh: H kybernhsh sto qema toy eyrwstratoy qa thrhsei th stash poy thrhse kai sthn E.E.. Qelw na sas rwthsw, omws, sto qema ths tromokratias poy oi Amerikanoi to exoyn ws "eyaggelio" kai eikazetai oti qa epimeinoyn gia amesa kai praktika apotelesmata sthn antimetwpish kai katapolemhsh ths tromokratias. Pisteyete oti qa perioristoyn se ayto kai giati tote prin apo dyo hmeres bghke h ekpomph sto CBS;

XYTHRHS: Ta qemata ths dieqnoys tromokratias exoyn syzhthqei kata koron kai exoyn lhfqei apofaseis sto plaisio ths E.E. kai toy NATO, opoy lambanei meros kai h Ellada. Tis apofaseis aytes h xwra mas tis akoloyqei me synepeia. Se o,ti afora to qema ths ekpomphs sto CBS, sto opoio anafereste, prepei na sas pw, prwton, oti to CBS den ekfrazei thn amerikanikh kybernhsh. Moy dinete, omws, thn eykairia, kata deytero logo, na pw oti h ekpomph ayth einai apotelesma paradhmosiografias. Einai deigma kitrinismoy sthn thleorash. Kai einai krima gia to CBS, giati einai mia ekpomph poy einai emfanws proapofasismenh, prokateilhmmenh kai sykofantikh. Den sthrixthke se kanena stoixeio. Einai anamashmata poy exoyme, kata kairoys akoysei apo toys idioys anqrwpoys kai sto parelqon. Einai ena janazestameno faghto poy den dieykolynei, alla dyskoleyei thn ereyna sto sygkekrimeno qema kai ayto dhmioyrgei erwthmatika. Arkei na sas pw -kai to gnwrizete oloi- oti efqasan sto shmeio -akoyson-akoyson!- na kathgoroyn kai ton Proedro ths Boylhs Apostolo Kaklamanh. Enan politiko me istoria, me gnwsto hqos kai kyros. Monon ayto qa apodeiknye poso anajiopisth einai h ekpomph ayth. Epanalambanw: Krima gia to CBS.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epitrecte moy na pw kati. En toiayth periptwsei, symfwnw me osa exete pei hdh kai einai kataptysto olo ayto poy egine, alla erwtw: Giati egine ayto twra poy o k. Shmiths phgainei sthn Amerikh; Ayto den apotelei mia "presa" amerikanikhs pieshs pros ton k. Shmith;

XYTHRHS: Den noiwqoyme kamia piesh apo thn ekpomph ayth. H ekpomph ayth petyxainei to antiqeto, ean ayto htan o skopos ths. Einai mia ekpomph asteia kai axreia.

MOYRTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate -sthn arxh twn dhlwsewn sas- oti pisteyete pws oi dimereis sxeseis qa einai akomh kalyteres meta thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis HPA. Se tria - tessera, toylaxiston, basika zhthmata, opws einai to Kypriako, oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, h dieqnhs tromokratia, alla kai h tromokratia sthn Ellada, kaqws kai o eyrwstratos, h amerikanikh pleyra proseggizei apo diaforetikh optikh gwnia ayta ta qemata. Pisteyete oti yparxoyn eyhkoa wta sthn Oyasigkton na akoysoyn tis ellhnikes qeseis kai na tis proseggisoyn, wste na beltiwqoyn, opws eipate, oi dimereis sxeseis;

XYTHRHS: O Prwqypoyrgos, einai kaq` odon gia tis HPA, akribws gia na ginoyn oi synanthseis kai oi synomilies poyanaferate. As perimenoyme, epomenws, na ginoyn oi synanthseis kai oi syzhthseis aytes kai na doyme ta apotelesmata. Qa htan laqos apo meroys moy na milhsw ek twn proterwn gi ayta ta opoia qa yposthrijoyn oi Amerikanoi, dhladh h allh pleyra. Den einai swsto. Sas eipa ti qa yposthrixtei apo thn ellhnikh pleyra kai perimenoyme na doyme ta apotelesmata toy tajidioy aytoy, ta opoia emeis perimenoyme na einai qetika se oloys toys tomeis.

MOYRTHS: Blepete, dhladh, metakinhsh twn Amerikanwn apo tis qeseis poy exoyn@

XYTHRHS: Blepoyme na einai qetika.

MIXAHL: Se allo qema. Telika, k. Ekproswpe, o kratikos mhxanismos antimetwpise ikanopoihtika thn kakokairia; Gia paradeigma esas sas apegklwbisan eykola oi kratikes yphresies apo to spiti sas, ekei sta boreia proastia; @H yphrxan, opws eipe kai o k. Skandalidhs kai xqes, dyo - treis fores poy toy doqhke h eykairia, problhmata kai anagkh gia pio oysiastikh antimetwpish tetoiwn akraiwn fainomenwn;

XYTHRHS: Ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, egine xqes kybernhtikh syskech, kata thn opoia yphrje apologismos gia ayto to trihmero kai ejetasthkan oi energeies poy eginan apo thn pleyra toy kratikoy mhxanismoy, oi elleiceis, opoy paroysiasthkan kai lhfqhkan apofaseis, tis opoies gnwrizete, tis anakoinwse o ypoyrgos Eswterikwn. Apo ekei kai pera synexizetai mia istoria me yperboles, me krayges, apo orismenoys einai alhqeia, oi opoioi den exoyn na poyn oyte mia kalh koybenta, prwton gia to 99% twn politwn poy symperiferqhkan tis hmeres aytes me megalh eyqynh kai deyteron, gia oloys ekeinoys oi opoioi katw apo antijoes synqhkes, edrasan mera kai nyxta. Kai -mporw na pw- eswsan, se polles krisimes periptwseis, zwes. Epishmainw oti den eixame kanena qyma. Kai aytoi htan oi pyrosbestes, oi ergazomenoi texnikoi ths DEH, oi astynomikoi, oi troxonomoi, polloi eqelontes k.lp.. Nomizw oti kai h Nea Dhmokratia -mia anakoinwsh poy eida toy k. Royssopoyloy- taytizetai kai ayth me tis krayges kai tis yperboles poy yparxoyn se aytes tis periptwseis. Ypenqymizw oti, se analoges periptwseis sth Boreia Ellada, th Makedonia, se dyskola shmeia, opws sthn Katara kai thn Kastania, den kleinei o dromos. Alla ayto to dihmero-trihmero egine Kastania kai Katara h mish Ellada. Ayto den mporei kaneis na to jexasei. Yphrjan problhmata. Kai se ayto synebalan polla pragmata, akomh kai epipolaiothtes. Anagnwrisa hdh oti yphrjan kai elleiceis. Den einai dynato na mhn yphrxan se tetoia fainomena ayths ths entashs. Sas ypenqymizw, epishs, epeidh panta exoyme enan tropo na ta bazoyme poly me ton eayto mas na leme oti "eimaste oi xeiroteroi apo oloys" k.lp., oti ayta synebhsan hdh -kai milaw gia fetos kai prosfatws - kai se polla alla krath ths Eyrwphs. Sth Germania -gia paradeigma- ekleise enas dromos kai yphrje oyra pollwn dekadwn xiliometrwn. Sthn Ispania epishs. Eixan qymata. H Barkelwnh emeine 24 wres sto skotadi. Kai alla tetoia pragmata symbainoyn se aytes tis ektaktes kairikes katastaseis, opws synebh edw. Epishs, o kaqenas exei mia empeiria. Den jerw an exete zhsei h oxi sto ejwteriko. Egw exw zhsei arketa xronia sto ejwteriko. Kai den qa milhsw gia th Roymania opoy ezhsa dyo xronia. Qa sas milhsw, omws, gia thn Agglia. Sth geitonia poy emena sto Boreio Londino, sto Kampten Taoyn, gia na paw apo to spiti moy na parw ton hlektriko, htan mia oloklhrh peripeteia. Kai profanws den perimena ena mhxanhma na erqei na kaqarisei to dromo mprosta apo to spiti moy, th geitonia k.lp.. Oyte einai dynato na ginetai ayto to pragma. Antilambaneste oti aytes einai kapoies ektaktes periptwseis, stis opoies, bebaiws, h kybernhsh kai o kratikos mhxanismos kanei o,ti einai dynato. Kalo einai na beltiwnomaste se ayto kai beltiwnomaste, ta teleytaia xronia. Exoyme th Genikh Grammateia Politikhs Prostasias, h opoia endynamwnetai olo kai perissotero kai qa einai olo perissotero pio apotelesmatikh. Oi apofaseis poy elhfqhsan xqes qa erqoyn sth Boylh me nomosxedio to epomeno diasthma kai pisteyoyme oti einai poly shmantikes. Qelw na pw oti prepei na eimaste mesa sta oria toy realismoy kai ths pragmatikothtas kai na dinoyme etsi ena paradeigma wrimhs, genikotera, koinwnias. Ayth einai h apoch moy se aytes tis synqhkes.

Egw -mias kai me rwthsate proswpika- katebhka me poly megalh dyskolia einai alhqeia kai oxi me to ypoyrgiko aytokinhto moy, to opoio den exei alysides. Katebhka, omws, ston kentriko dromo me dyskolia, prokeimenoy na parw to aytokinhto kai siga-siga na erqoyme -me idiwtiko aytokinhto- me alysides. Ti na kanoyme;

MOYRTHS: H kybernhsh einai eyxaristhmenh apo th leitoyrgia ths Genikhs Grammateias Politikhs Prostasias se ayto to trihmero;

XYTHRHS: Nai. An ejairesete tis prwtes wres, meta -einai alhqeia- o kaqenas edwse oloklhro ton eayto toy, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn ta problhmata. Epeidh, omws, dinoyme megalh shmasia sth Grammateia Politikhs Prostasias, epanalambanw oti me nomosxedio poy qa feroyme sth Boylh, qa thn enisxysoyme peraiterw. Pio sygkekrimena metra ejhggeile xqes o armodios ypoyrgos Kwstas Skandalidhs. Prokeitai, anamesa sta alla, na paroyme mhxanhmata, ta opoia qa briskontai kata takta diasthmata sthn eqnikh odo poy prepei na paramenei diarkws anoixth. Symfwnw me oloys aytoys poy kanoyn ayth th sygkekrimenh kritikh: Prepei na menei anoixth h eqnikh odos. Parallhla qa diasfalistoyn kai alles dynatothtes sthn antimetwpish tetoiwn fainomenwn. Qa yparjei ena systhma epithrhshs twn eqnikwn odwn, toy eqnikoy diktyoy, to opoio qa einai hlektroniko. Exei shmasia ayto. Epishs, syzhthqhkan xqes -kai to gnwrizete- qemata poy aforoyn thn apozhmiwsh twn plhgentwn, kyriws ston agrotiko tomea. Qa ginei apologismos gia na doqoyn apozhmiwseis. Ektimatai oti qa diplasiastei o proypologismos poy diatiqetai kaqe xrono gia tis zhmies, meta apo ayto poy synebh to dihmero. Apo ekei kai pera, ginetai antilhpto oti den mporei kanenas na sthrijei olh thn politikh toy sthn antimetwpish enos fainomenoy poy emfanizetai kaqe 30, 50 xronia. Dioti qa parei mhxanhmata ta opoia qa skoyriasoyn, me ta opoia telika den qa asxoleitai kaneis, qa briskontai se apoqhkes kai meta apo 30 xronia, otan qa exoyme pali to idio fainomeno den qa mporoyn na leitoyrghsoyn. Gi ayto xreiazetai na yparxei enas orqologismos sthn antimetwpish olwn aytwn twn fainomenwn kai na yparxei asfalws etoimothta kai dynatothta ths Genikhs Grammateias Politikhs Prostasias.

MOYRTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, prwton, antimetwpizei h kybernhsh qema antikatastashs ths hgesias ths Genikhs Grammateias Politikhs Prostasias; Kai deyteron, ejetazei to endexomeno anabaqmishs ths se ypoyrgeio;

XYTHRHS: To prwto apokleietai, den yparxei tetoio qema. Gia to deytero den syzhthqhke kai den xreiazetai kata thn apoch mas mia tetoia anabaqmish, opws ayth poy lete. Xreiazetai, pantws enisxysh ths.

TAKHS: Mia kai plhsiazei h synedriash ths K.E. toy kommatos sas, sxetika me tis dhmotikes ekloges kai epeidh tis teleytaies hmeres exei akoystei to onoma ths Eirhnhs Papa gia to Dhmo ths Aqhnas, apo pleyras toy PASOK, exete na mas peite kati gi ayto; Pws qa blepate ena tetoio endexomeno; Yparxoyn basimes logikes sthn anafora aytoy toy onomatos;

XYTHRHS: Den mporoyme na milhsoyme kaqoloy gia tis dhmotikes ekloges, oyte gia proswpa.

TAKHS: Epeidh akoygetai tis teleytaies hmeres, gi ayto sas rwtw.

XYTHRHS: An qelete thn proswpikh moy apoch, einai gnwsth kai fantazomai oti einai dedomenh h ektimhsh olwn twn Ellhnwn sto proswpo ths k. Papa. Opws, epishs, kai oloklhrhs ths Eyrwphs, telikws, afoy anakhryxqhke kai "Gynaika ths Eyrwphs". Alla, allo to qema ayto kai allo to qema twn dhmotikwn eklogwn, to opoio qa syzhthqei -opws eipate ki eseis- entos toy plaisioy toy kommatos. To Flebarh, qa exoyme tis qeseis mas, oi opoies kai qa sas anakoinwqoyn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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