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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 21 Dekembrioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: H Nea Dhmokratia exei, hdh, kanei, mesw ekproswpwn ths, mia dhlwsh oti qa ejetasei to porisma Ntogiakoy gia na kanonisei tis peraiterw kinhseis ths. H kybernhsh pws ajiologei ayto to porisma, kaqws kai th sygkyria, sthn opoia emfanisthke to porisma;

PRWTOPAPAS: To eggrafo toy sygkekrimenoy eisaggelikoy leitoyrgoy doqhke sth dhmosiothta -to elaban kai ta politika kommata kai ta MME- molis prin apo ligo. Einai, loipon, fysiologiko na exei ginei mono mia anagnwsh kai den einai dynato na exoyme oles tis leptomereies tis opoies periexei, dioti einai polyselido.

Meta apo mia prwth anagnwsh toy porismatos, qelw na tonisw ta ejhs: Apo to eggrafo toy k. Ntogiakoy dhmioyrgoyntai, gia mia akomh fora, sobara erwthmatika gia thn yparjh politikhs skopimothtas, toso oson afora to xrono poy epelegh gia na doqei to porisma, oso kai se sxesh me to periexomeno toy. Ginomai analytikoteros:

Prwton, gia to men xrono, epelegh h paramonh ths chfishs toy Proypologismoy sth Boylh kai bebaiws se mia idiaitera problhmatikh gia th N.D. periodo, sthn opoia yparxoyn polla kai sobara problhmata hqikhs tajhs.

Deyteron, to idio to periexomeno toy porismatos enisxyei ayta ta erwthmatika. O sygkekrimenos eisaggelikos leitoyrgos exei yioqethsei akrita oles tis sxetikes anafores ths N.D., oi opoies opws gnwrizete exoyn parei, kat epanalhch, plhrh apanthsh apo thn kybernhsh sth Boylh.

O k. Ntogiakos dierwtatai h erwta gia eyqynes poy mporei na yparxoyn kata thn periodo apo to 1996 kai meta, otan o idios sto eggrafo toy, paradexetai oti oi perissoteres apo tis ellhnopoihseis exoyn ginei mesa se tria xronia kai sygkekrimena kata thn periodo 1990-1993, epi kybernhsews N.D.

Gennatai, loipon, to ejhs erwthma: Pws den yparxoyn eyqynes gia mia periodo, opoy xwris oysiastika nomoqetiko plaisio, xwris nomoqetikh ejoysiodothsh, alla me mia aplh ypoyrgikh prajh, exoyn ginei peripoy 58.000 ellhnopoihseis kai antiqeta anaferetai mono se mia periodo, opoy malista h eyqynh gia tis ellhnopoihseis eixe perasei stis Nomarxies (poy meta apo mia orismenh periodo htan eklegmenes) kai se alles arxes; Einai, epishs, ejisoy gnwsto oti ta qemata sta opoia anaferetai se kamia periptwsh den mporei na tekmhriwsoyn mia tetoia politikh bash h mia tetoia kathgoria.

Qa exoyme, bebaiws, thn eykairia na milhsoyme analytika gia ola ayta ta qemata. Epi toy parontos, qelw mono na epanalabw oti gia mia akomh fora ayth h kinhsh dhmioyrgei sobara politika erwthmatika. Toso ejaitias toy xronoy poy epelegh, oso kai ejaitias toy periexomeno ths me to opoio epixeireitai na yioqethqoyn akrita epixeirhmata poy, kata kairoys, proebale h N.D.

GARGALAKOS: Exei teqei ena qema hqikhs tajhs gia ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Niko Xristodoylakh, giati otan htan yfypoyrgos Oikonomikwn to 1999, eixe kanei mia ependysh peripoy 5 ekatommyriwn draxmwn se metoxes. Ti apantate;

PRWTOPAPAS: To men qema oysias exei apanthqei plhrws kai kata ton kalytero tropo apo ton idio ton k. Xristodoylakh, xqes, sth Boylh. Kai anaferomai sth dhlwsh thn opoia kateqese. Ekeino, omws, poy qelw na tonisw politika einai oti egine mia aparadekth epiqesh kata toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn, me profanh stoxo thn idia thn oikonomikh politikh, idiaitera meta tis epityxies poy shmeiwqhkan, to teleytaio diasthma, ston tomea ayto. H N.D. xrhsimopoiei pan meso gia na plhjei thn politikh kai dystyxws mazi me aythn kai thn oikonomikh poreia ths xwras.

Qelw na tonisw -kai einai deigma ths proxeirothtas me thn opoia kineitai to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs- oti xqes sth Boylh o k. Paylopoylos proteine na yparjei nomoqetikh ryqmish, me thn opoia oydeis ypoyrgos, kanena melos ths kybernhshs -opws eipe- den qa eprepe na mporei na "paizei" sto Xrhmatisthrio. Proteine o k. Paylopoylos, o opoios opws gnwrizete einai kai kaqhghths toy Dikaioy, na yparjei nomoqetikh ryqmish, wste na mhn mporoyn oi ypoyrgoi na metexoyn sto xrhmatisthriako "paixnidi". Aporw me ton k. Paylopoylo kai me ayto poy eipe. Dioti o k. Paylopoylos, oxi mono ws politikos, alla kai ws nomikos, qa eprepe na gnwrizei to N. 2843/2000 (Arqro 32), symfwna me ton opoio apagoreyetai sta melh ths kybernhshs, toys yfypoyrgoys, toys Genikoys kai Eidikoys Grammateis ypoyrgeiwn h synach xrhmatisthriakwn synallagwn. Malista, yparxei, apo 17 Noembrioy 2000, kai eggrafo -to opoio einai sth diaqesh sas- toy Genikoy Grammatea toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy Swkrath Kosmidh, o opoios parakalei oloys toys ypoyrgoys, toys yfypoyrgoys kai toys Genikoys Grammateis twn ypoyrgeiwn na gnwstopoihsoyn ston Proedro ths Epitrophs Kefalaiagoras ton ariqmo toy logariasmoy, o opoios threitai sto systhma ajiwn titloy toy kentrikoy apoqethrioy ajiwn, efoson bebaiws yparxei.

Gia mia akomh fora, h N.D. syllambanetai adiabasth kai asxeth. Kai oxi mono adiabasth kai asxeth, alla einai safes oti oyte kan mphke ston kopo na ereynhsei to nomiko plaisio poy yparxei. Apodeiknyetai etsi oti eixe kaqara politiko stoxo. Na plhjei, dhladh, to proswpo toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn -kai malista me anaitiologhtes epiklhseis- kai oysiastika na plhjei thn oikonomikh politikh poy apodidei pros ofelos ths xwras kai toy ellhnikoy laoy.

MIXAHL: Eipate oti sas dhmioyrgei sobara erwthmatika gia thn yparjh politikhs skopimothtas. Den sas apasxolei to endexomeno, meta th dhlwsh sas ayth na janabgoyn oi Enwseis twn Eisaggelewn, opws eixe ginei kai sthn prohgoymenh periptwsh ths DEKA kai na antidrasoyn, giati epanerxeste se ena qema, opws ayto toy k. Asprogeraka, opoy dhmioyrghqhke entash stis sxeseis sas me toys leitoyrgoys ths Dikaiosynhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw hdh topoqethqei kai bebaiws topoqethqhka syneidhta. Apo kei kai pera, ayto poy exw na pw einai oti prepei na diabasete prosektika to sxetiko eggrafo, poy exei, hdh, doqei sth dhmosiothta. Qa deite pws parakamptontai, me entelws ayqaireto tropo, xronikes periodoi, kata tis opoies kybernhsan sygkekrimena kommata. Malista epixeireitai na dhmioyrghqei kai nomologia peri paragrafhs -enw den einai armodiothta toy eisaggelea, alla toy Dikasthrioy to qema ths paragrafhs- kai idiaitera otan mporei na anadeiknyontai kakoyrghmatikes prajeis, gia tis opoies den qa yphrxe ews twra paragrafh. Ajizei ton kopo na diabasete to idio to eggrafo, to opoio mila apo mono toy.

MIXAHL: Omws, edw diapistwnei kaneis, ean moy epitrepete, mia diaforetikwn tonwn proseggish pollwn leitoyrgiwn ths Dikaiosynhs. Se alla meizona zhthmata, eseis arneiste na topoqethqeite, legontas oti h Dikaiosynh exei tis dikes ths leitoyrgies kai pws leitoyrgei me toys dikoys ths kanones. Sth sygkekrimenh leitoyrgia toy k. Ntogiakoy, h Boylh mporei na thn aporricei kai o k. Ntogiakos na kriqei apo thn koinh gnwmh kai apo toys anwteroys toy dikastes kai ta armodia dikastika symboylia. To gegonos, oti eseis sxoliazete thn energeia toy k. Ntogiakoy@

PRWTOPAPAS: Apanthsa, hdh.

MOYRTZHS: Me sygxwreite, kyrie Ypoyrge, amfisbhteite thn akeraiothta kai thn episthmonikh eparkeia toy k. Ntogiakoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw, hdh, safws topoqethqei .

KARGOYDH: Me aformh ta sxolia sas gia th stash toy k. Ntogiakoy, qelw na rwthsw, ean ayta ta sxolia periorizontai sto proswpo toy k. Ntogiakoy h ean ektimate oti genikws sto xwro ths Dikaiosynhs yparxoyn dynameis oi opoies epiqymoyn h epidiwkoyn na yperboyn ta oria ths ejoysias toys.

PRWTOPAPAS: Menw sthn arxikh topoqethsh moy.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh protiqetai na labei osa metra ths analogoyn gia na yperaspistei ton eayto ths.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eimaste enoxoi gia na yperaspisoyme ton eayto mas. Qa anadeijoyme to problhma kai tis pragmatikes toy diastaseis, se ola ta epipeda. Na eiste bebaioi gi ayto.

PITTARAS: Ektimate pws h kinhsh Ntogiakoy einai kinhsh antiperispasmoy stis synexizomenes apokalyceis toy k. Laliwth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Topoqethqhka, hdh, ep` aytoy me thn arxikh moy anafora.

MPEKATWROY: Mas exete pei polles fores sto parelqon, oti h ellhnikh Dikaiosynh kai oi eisaggeleis leitoyrgoyn anejarthta. Einai ontws etsi;

PRWTOPAPAS: O kaqenas krinetai. Efoson milate gia ena synolo anqrwpwn, qelw na pisteyw, oti etsi leitoyrgoyn: Anejarthta. Apo kei kai pera, h kaqe prajh krinetai.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Eipate oti ayta ta opoia ebgale h N.D. gia thn ypoqesh Ntogiakoy, exoyn allh politikh skopimothta.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti dhmioyrgoyntai sobara erwthmatika gia thn yparjh politikhs skopimothtas.

KWNTANTINIDHS: Erwtw to ejhs, ayta ta opoia ebgale o k. Laliwths kai exoyn dhmioyrghsei politikh entash sthn Ellada, den eixan politikh skopimothta;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Laliwths einai Grammateas politikoy kommatos kai otan o Grammateas enos politikoy kommatos topoqeteitai, to kanei ej onomatos toy politikoy kommatos. Ara, kanei politikh prajh. Den einai to idio enas Grammateas politikoy kommatos kai enas eisaggeleas.

MORTZHS: Epibebaiwnete h diaceydete dhmosieyma twn "NEWN" opoy anaferei oti eginan filikes anakriseis apo organa ths Skotalnt Giarnt, se Ellhnes poy ferontai ypoptoi gia th symmetoxh toys sth "17 Noembrh".

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizoyme kai den mas afora kati tetoio. H Ellada einai kratos dikaioy, kineitai me bash to eswteriko ths Dikaio kai thn ennomh tajh ths. Yparxoyn nomoi gia ta dikaiwmata twn politwn. Kai, bebaiws, yparxoyn oi armodies arxes poy kinoyntai pragmatika poly sobara kai me ypeyqyno tropo, gia thn antimetwpish ths tromokratias. Ola, omws, sto eswteriko ths xwras ginontai me bash thn ennomh tajh kai toys kanones Dikaioy. Eimaste kratos Dikaioy kai etsi antimetwpizoyme kai ayto to fainomeno, gia na fqasoyme sthn plhrh dialeykansh olwn aytwn twn ypoqesewn.

MOYRTZHS: Ean eixan ginei filikes anakriseis, qa to gnwrizate;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti den gnwrizoyme tipota kai den mas afora.

MIXAHL: Pws krinei h kybernhsh th xqesinh ekdhlwsh twn syggenwn qymatwn ths tromokratias kai ean pisteyei oti tetoioy eidoys symbolikes ekdhlwseis, mporei na symballoyn sthn antimetwpish toy fainomenoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqe symbolikh ekdhlwsh poy eyaisqhtopoiei ton polith ston agwna kata ths tromokratias einai qetikh. Xreiazetai na mas bohqhsoyn oloi. Einai enas megalos agwnas gia thn antimetwpish ths tromokratias. Xreiazomaste thn eyaisqhtopoihsh ths ellhnikhs koinwnias.

MPOTWNHS: Xqes, o k. Laliwths edwse nea stoixeia gia thn ypoqesh me th MAYO kai toys logariasmoys. Qa hqela na moy peite ean ayta ta stoixeia, exoyn perielqei ston Prwqypoyrgo kai ean egkrinei telika th synexish toy "sklhroy rok" me ton k. Mhtsotakh kai th N.D. ;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Mh sygxeete anomoia pragmata. O k. Laliwths edwse kapoia stoixeia sth dhmosiothta, ta opoia epibebaiwnoyn ayta poy, kata kairoys, exei pei. Ejalloy, einai se synexeia twn dhlwsewn toy k. Mhtsotakh ths prohgoymenhs Deyteras. Se oloys ta esteile kai oloi ta gnwrizoyme. Efoson, eixe stoixeia o k. Laliwths, logiko einai na ta dwsei sth dhmosiothta. Epibebaiwnoyn tis dhlwseis poy exei kanei.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Apo th mia exoyme tis dhlwseis kai tis apodeijeis poy exei ferei o k. Laliwths sth dhmosiothta, apo thn allh exoyme to porisma Ntogiakoy. Ola ayta proagoyn th Dhmokratia, endiaferoyn ton ellhniko lao; Den exei alla problhmata, terastia eqnika zhthmata, gia na asxoleitai o ellhnikos laos; Eseis ti lete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to qema twn ellhnopoihsewn exoyme hsyxh th syneidhsh mas. Gnwrizoyme, mesa apo poies diadikasies exoyn ginei oi sxetikes kinhseis. Ejalloy, prwtoi emeis apokentrwsame kai dwsame tis sxetikes armodiothtes stis Nomarxies. Akribws, giati den einai ena qema poy afora thn kentrikh ejoysia. Prepei na ejetazontai, kata periptwsh, apo tis armodies arxes. Eimaste oi prwtoi poy chfisame nomo, poy dinei oristiko telos stis opoies dynatothtes h ta opoia "paraqyra" yphrxan. Apo kei kai pera, sas anefera kai kapoia erwthmatika poy dhmioyrghqhkan, ta opoia bebaiws, qa apanthqoyn. Qa topoqethqoyme.

ANTYPAS: Qa zhthsei h kybernhsh, sto plaisio ths dikastikhs syndromhs, to anoigma twn sxetikwn logariasmwn, sth Bretania;

PRWTOPAPAS: Me thn ypoqesh ayth asxoleitai h Dikaiosynh, paroti fainetai oti yparxoyn anqrwpoi, poy oi eyaisqhsies toys pane pros mia pleyra.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kala Xristoygenna.

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