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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 20 Noembrioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Qa hqela, kat` arxas, na zhthsw syggnwmh gia thn oligolepth kaqysterhsh, h opoia ypagoreythke apo thn ypoxrewsh moy na parabreqw sthn paroysiash toy biblioy toy synadelfoy sas Xrhstoy Pasalarh -enos apo ta pio istorika stelexh sto xwro toy Typoy- me ton titlo "H alhqeia ki as ponaei". Pisteyw oti o titlos toy biblioy einai kai symbolikos gia thn prospaqeia poy ginetai gia thn alhqeia poy panta prepei na legetai, wste na mporoyme na proxwroyme mprosta se ayth th xwra.

Qelw, epishs, na ekfrasw th lyph mas gia to qanato twn tessarwn jenwn synadelfwn sas. Apodeiknyetai, gia mia akomh fora, poso shmantiko einai to leitoyrghma toy dhmosiografoy. Sto bwmo ths enhmerwshs qysiazontai akomh kai anqrwpines zwes. Pisteyw, pragmatika, oti aytoi oi anqrwpoi krathsan chla kai timhsan th shmaia ths dhmosiografias, ths enhmerwshs sto kynhgi oxi mono ths eidhshs, alla ths apokalychs ths alhqeias. Qewrw ypoxrewsh mas na apotisoyme oloi foro timhs sth mnhmh toys.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Exete kapoio sxolio gia th shmerinh synedriash ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy PASOK, epeidh den einai mono ayth h synedriash, alla yparxei se ekkremothta kai h chfoforia gia to nomosxedio sxetika me ton aigialo. Kai ayto se synarthsh me th synedriash ths K.O.. Dhladh, h synoxh ths K.O., me alla logia, einai dedomenh;

PRWTOPAPAS: H synedriash ths K.O. toy PASOK einai mia eswterikh diadikasia. Me ayth thn ennoia kai meta thn omilia toy Proedroy kai Prwqypoyrgoy, h opoia einai sth diaqesh sas, qa akoystoyn apoceis, qa yparjoyn protaseis kai giati oxi qa yparjei kai kritikh apo orismenoys boyleytes. Ayto to qewrw apolytws fysiologiko kai ygies. To PASOK einai ena megalo komma. Einai ena komma poy ekfrazei thn pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy kai einai logiko mesa stis synedriaseis twn organwn toy na mhn yparxei mono h mia apoch, na mhn yparxei monoliqikothta. Sto PASOK yparxei dhmokratia, yparxei apoch, yparxei ekfrash. Katalhgei kai proxwra pros ta empros, idiaitera h Koinoboyleytikh toy Omada. Ayto exei apodeixqei se oles tis krisimes stigmes. H synoxh ths K.O. toy Kinhmatos einai dedomenh. Sthrizei thn kybernhsh kai to ergo ths. Einai, loipon, fysiko ayto na ekdhlwnetai se oles tis shmantikes chfofories. Apo ekei kai pera, mhn paranooyme orismena pragmata. Exw pei kai allh fora oti h K.O. den einai loxos. Ara, einai logiko kapoies stigmes boyleytes mas na stekontai kritika panw se orismena arqra h orismenes diatypwseis nomosxediwn, na zhtoyn diorqwseis, beltiwseis, na ypobaloyn tis dikes toys protaseis. Ayto egine kai sthn periptwsh toy nomosxedioy gia ton aigialo. Oi tropopoihseis eginan, oi allages kai oi epanadiatypwseis yphrjan. Ws kybernhsh exoyme panta anoikta ta aytia mas, oson afora th leitoyrgia toy Koinoboylioy kai thn ekfrash twn boyleytwn. Sebomaste th leitoyrgia toy Koinoboylioy kai thn timoyme emprakta, apodexomenoi tis apoceis poy diatypwnontai. Exw, loipon, thn entypwsh oti, meta apo ola ayta, shmera to apogeyma den qa yparjei kanena problhma sthn chfoforia.

MIXAHL: Epibebaiwnete osa dhmosieyontai shmera gia tis apofaseis poy elhfqhsan sto Symboylio twn Ypoyrgwn Amynas gia th dhmioyrgia eyrwstratoy, dhladh th symmetoxh ths Elladas me 6.000 stratiwtes; Kai mia deyterh erwthsh, poy exei sxesh me to Symboylio Ypoyrgwn Gewrgias poy ginetai shmera gia ta kapna. Einai dedomeno -mas to eipe kai o Prwqypoyrgos, xqes- oti h Ellada qa enantiwqei stis apofaseis gia tis epidothseis. To zhthma einai, ean eseis pisteyete oti meta apo mia tetoia piqanh energeia, prokeitai oi sxediazomenes h epapeiloymenes, as to pw etsi, kinhtopoihseis prokeitai na stamathsoyn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora to deytero erwthma sas, h kybernhsh, opws eidate, steketai me idiaiterh prosoxh kai sebasmo apenanti sta aithmata twn agrotwn. Exw tonisei, kat` epanalhch, oti symporeythkame, symporeyomaste kai qa synexisoyme na symporeyomaste me ton agrotiko kosmo. Bebaiws, den eimai egw ekeinos poy qa pei na kanoyn h na mhn kanoyn kinhtopoihseis. Ayto den qa to kanoyme pote. Eimaste, omws, ekeinoi poy qa poyme ws kybernhsh oti prepei na lysoyme ta qemata toys. Exoyme strateyqei edw kai poly kairo -kai se ayth thn krisimh fash- gia na dwsoyme dikaies, swstes, ikanopoihtikes lyseis sta qemata toys. Ayto einai to endiaferon mas. Ekei strefoyme thn prospaqeia mas. Shmera, dinoyme th maxh sto Symboylio Ypoyrgwn Gewrgias gia ta kapna. Bebaiws, ginetai kai mia poly megalh prospaqeia, opws gnwrizete, gia to bambaki kai eyelpistoyme th Deytera to prwi na eimaste se qesh na anakoinwsoyme mia qetikh gia toys agrotes stremmatikh apodosh, wste na ikanopoihqei kai na katajiwqei h megalh prospaqeia kai o agwnas poy kanoyn. Eimaste kai sta dyo shmeia kaqetoi. Gia ta kapna qa dwsoyme oles tis anagkaies maxes mesa sthn E.E. gia na synexistoyn oi epidothseis pros ton Ellhna kapnoparagwgo.

Oson afora to bambaki, ginontai poly aysthroi elegxoi kai me shmantikotata apotelesmata, kata th diarkeia ths sylloghs toy bambakioy kai ths paradoshs toy sta ekkokkisthria. Eyelpistoyme oti me th swsth xrhsh toy kanonismoy ths Koinothtas qa exoyme th dynatothta syntoma -elpizw th Deytera- na anakoinwsoyme tis telikes stremmatikes apodoseis poy ektimoyme oti qa einai ikanopoihtikes.

MIXAHL: Qa epimeinw. H kybernhsh qelei na kanei ayta kai egw proswpika den exw kanena logo na amfisbhthsw thn kalh ths proqesh. Omws, fainetai oti oi ekfrastes twn agrotwn, syndikalistes, proedroi, sth Qessalia kyriws, exoyn antiqeth apoch. Oxi mono den apodexontai thn kalh sas proqesh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai mono proqesh, einai kyriws prospaqeia.

MIXAHL: Bebaiws kai prospaqeia kai desmeysh kai otidhpote allo qelete. To qema, omws, einai oti aytoi epimenoyn h toylaxiston lene dhmosia oti qa proxwrhsoyn se kinhtopoihseis. Ektimate oti yparxei politikos logos pisw apo aytes tis kinhseis; Yparxei synennohsh, me h xwris eisagwgika, stelexwn ths N.D., toy KKE h genikotera ths antipoliteyshs, me skopo na kanoyn antipoliteysh sthn kybernhsh gyrw apo tis sxediazomenes kinhtopoihseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa htan laqos na krinoyme etsi mia kinhtopoihsh, idiaitera otan eimaste sth fash poy diekdikoyme apo thn E.E. swstes lyseis poy symferoyn ton Ellhna agroth. Genikws, aytes tis kinhtopoihseis den prepei na tis krinoyme arnhtika. Pisteyw oti yparxei h fwnh toy Ellhna agroth. Exoyme anoikta ta matia mas, exoyme anoikta ta aytia mas, na doyme ta problhmata, na akoysoyme th diekdikhsh, na mporesoyme na ejasfalisoyme th synergia kai th systrateysh poy xreiazetai gia na fqasoyme sthn epiqymhth lysh. Kai se orismena apo ayta ta zhthmata, opws gnwrizete, prepei na doylecoyme mazi me ton Ellhna agroth. Prepei mazi na doylecoyme gia ta kapna. Einai koinos o agwnas gia to qema twn kapnoparagwgwn. Kai ayto prepei na ginei antilhpto. Opws kai mazi prepei na diasfalisoyme oti den qa yparjoyn apates kai katastrathghseis poy qa qijoyn to bambakoparagwgo. Etsi, loipon, antimetwpizoyme tis kinhtopoihseis twn agrotwn.

Bebaiws, kapoia politika kommata qa hqelan na tis ekmetalleytoyn. Sas anaferw, gia paradeigma, th stash toy arxhgoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, o opoios, para tis pollostes epishmanseis mas, akoma den exei paei sto Eyrwpaiko Laiko Komma na qesei zhthma na mhn proxwrhsoyn ta chfismata toy gia thn perikoph twn epidothsewn ston Ellhna kapnoparagwgo. O k. Karamanlhs epaneilhmmena anaferetai oti, an htan prwqypoyrgos -bebaiws, den qa ginei, gi` ayto to leei- qa phgaine stis Bryjelles kai qa diekdikoyse ta dikaiwmata toy Ellhna agroth. Idoy pedio dojhs lampron . Na paei, loipon, sto Eyrwpaiko Laiko Komma kai na diekdikhsei ta symferonta toy Ellhna kapnoparagwgoy. Pisteyw oti se ayto to shmeio h proklhsh-prosklhsh poy toy apeyqynetai apo oloys, einai safhs. As kanei, toylaxiston, ta elaxista apo ayta poy leei. As fanei gia mia fora synephs kai as mh xrhsimopoiei diplh glwssa.

Bebaiws, yparxoyn kai alla fainomena. Anaferqhka, xqes, sto fainomeno toy boyleyth k. Xatzhgakh, o opoios filodojei na metatrapei se neo Marino Antypa. Ayto, omws, einai prosbolh sth mnhmh toy Marinoy Antypa.

Qelw, epishs, na epishmanw oti aytes einai prospaqeies ekmetalleyshs enos agwna. Emeis ofeiloyme na tis epishmanoyme. Den taytizoyme, omws, ton agwna twn agrotwn me aytes tis atyxeis kai qa elega epipolaies prospaqeies ekmetalleyshs toys apo to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.

Oson afora to prwto erwthma sas gia ton eyrw-strato, prepei na sas pw oti oi apofaseis toy Atypoy Symboylioy, poy synedriase xqes, einai panta oysiastikes. Den einai typikes, me thn ennoia oti xreiazetai kai to taktiko Symboylio, to opoio qa epikyrwsei, qetontas xronodiagrammata kai kapoies diadikasies efarmoghs ths olhs apofashs. Omws, h politikh oysia einai oti proxwroyme ston eyrw-strato. H Ellada exei kaqe logo na aisqanetai ikanopoihmenh gi` ayth thn ejelijh. Prwta apo ola, giati pisteyei se mia E.E. me ejwterikh politikh kai politikh asfaleias. Ayth einai h qesh mas. Ayth einai h prooptikh mas gia mia E.E. poy qa mporei pragmatika na diadramatizei rolo se oles tis dieqneis ejelijeis. Kai bebaiws, epeidh logw ths gewgrafikhs qeshs mas eimaste h pio prowqhmenh, apo synoriakh apoch, idiaitera pros ta anatolika. Eimaste mia xwra-melos ths E.E. se mia idiaitera, apo polles apoceis, eyaisqhth perioxh. Einai logiko h yparjh aytoy toy eyrwstratoy, ayths ths dynamhs asfaleias kai omalothtas, na antimetwpizetai qetika apo thn Ellada. Symferei th xwra mas apo oles tis pleyres. Kai apo thn pleyra ths prooptikhs ths Enwmenhs Eyrwphs, alla kai apo thn pleyra ths asfaleias ths xwras mas.

IWANNOY: qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h kritikh poy dexqhke xqes o k. Laliwths, apo sygkekrimena stelexh toy kommatos sthn koinh synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs kai toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy toy PASOK, gia ton tropo poy antipoliteyetai, qa exei kapoio apotelesma sthn taktikh poy qa akoloyqhsei to komma sto mellon;

PRWTOPAPAS: Xqes, egine mia ploysia syzhthsh, poy dihrkese pente wres. Den egine kritikh se kanenan. Egine syzhthsh gia ton politiko sxediasmo mas sthn epomenh trietia. Gnwrizete, hdh, ola ta shmantika shmeia ths eishghshs poy ekane o Prwqypoyrgos kai Proedros toy Kinhmatos mas Kwstas Shmiths. Meta thn eishghsh toy, yphrje enas ploysios dialogos ef olhs ths ylhs. Kai oxi mono gia ta zhthmata poy aforoyn tis sxeseis mas me ta alla kommata kai idiaitera me th Nea Dhmokratia. Egine syzhthsh gia tis basikes proteraiothtes ths politikhs mas, metajy twn opoiwn einai ta qemata ths anaptyjhs, h koinwnikh prostasia kai apasxolhsh, h proetoimasia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, h ylopoihsh twn megalwn ergwn kai bebaiws, qemata ths eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs kai ths dieqnoys qeshs ths xwras mas. Gia ola ayta eginan protaseis gia ton tropo me ton opoion prepei na sxediazetai, na efarmozetai kai na anadeiknyetai h politikh mas. Yphrjan protaseis gia tis sxeseis me ta mazika kinhmata, opws, epishs kai protaseis gia koinwnikes prwtoboylies. Bebaiws, yphrje kai mia syzhthsh gia ton tropo me ton opoio anadeiknyoyme tis pragmatikes kai terasties diafores, tis ideologikes kai politikes diafores, poy mas xwrizoyn apo th N.D. As mhn adikoyme, loipon, to Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy PASOK Kwsta Laliwth, o opoios paroysiase sthn protash toy to dipolo ``proodos-synthrhsh'', to opoio yparxei, ayth th stigmh, sthn ellhnikh politikh, apenanti sto dipolo, ``kybernhsh-antipoliteysh'', poy epixeiroyn na paroysiasoyn orismenoi. Yparxoyn politikes diafores metajy twn dynamewn poy skeptontai kai droyn proodeytika kai dynamewn poy skeptontai kai droyn synthrhtika. Xreiazetai, loipon, mia politikh orioqethsh. O Kwstas Laliwths epishmane oti h N.D. exei diadromh, ekproswpei kai epaggelletai. Ara, ej antikeimenoy qa kaneis anafores kai sto parelqon, alla, bebaiws, qa kaneis antiparaqesh poy afora to paron kai to mellon. Qa elega akomh oti analoges htan oi anafores poy ekanan kai alla stelexh mas. Ekeino poy symfwnhsame einai oti, se kaqe periptwsh, synexizoyme thn politikh mas, krinomaste apo to ergo mas, paleyoyme gia na odhghsoyme thn Ellada me asfaleia stis nees ejelijeis, na dhmioyrghsoyme thn eqnikh aytopepoiqhsh poy xreiazetai o poliths. Aytos einai o kyrios stoxos mas. Kai bebaiws, apenanti sto laikismo ths Neas Dhmokratias, antiparatassoyme, opws xarakthristika tonisthke kai apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, thn politikh mas, me metro, cyxraimia, meqodo kai stoixeia. Otan, h N.D. h opoia exei sto eswteriko ths paradosiakes dynameis ths dejias, dynameis ths adraneias kai toy synthrhtismoy, ekdhlwnetai me tetoio tropo, einai safes oti qa yparxoyn kai analoges apanthseis.

Sas eyxaristw.

SHMEIWSH: H politikh enhmerwsh ayrio (21/11) qa ginei mish wra meta th lhjh ths synedriashs toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

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